Hopefully.. hopefully... I'm nearing the end of Sandrock. -Trying WWE for the weekend to see if it's worth the upgrade (eh). -Playing Medieval Dynasty VR (whilst I wait for my buddy to be free to start the Xbox version in COOP) -Playing more Fallout: London as my PC weeps (it REALLY doesn't like it)
@BowsersBuddy The full game is on GP the problem is you need to install the mod on a specific version number and the one on gamepass is a newer version. It's just extra work to get it sorted whereas a Steam user can just roll back to a previous version, and the GoG version never got the update that breaks this mod in the first place.
@Romans12 You watch they'll delay Avowed because of the release schedule make a big song and dance about giving it a super polish then they'll discover Indy needs more time and is getting delayed.
See he says "content for console" but then goes on to say "expanding it to everywhere people play games"
That at best sounds like Xbox is being treated as "early access" with exclusives coming to PS/Nin later and at worse using just releasing games directly onto PS/Nin.
I seem to recall it being reported that there was some sort of conflict between Sony and Bungie about being further integration and the (then) next Destiny expansion was going to decide Bungie's fate.
If that was true then I guess the expansion did offer the demanded results by the Sony execs, which is to be expected I'm sure it wasn't a reasonable target anyway.
It's almost like ... -trashing your platform and games (to win court cases) -releasing exclusives on rival platforms. -struggling to release games both in terms of frequency and quality
Are not conductive to selling hardware.
Games sell consoles. Not specs, not owning a bunch of studios or entire publishers, and not "you don't need a xbox, to play xbox" subscription service. Games!
I am not hopeful about the future of Xbox as a platform. You just don't get to have two washout generations in a row and expect excitement for another.
Played a bit today. It's pretty good and I am really enjoying but there's just little niggles in the design. I did a mission and it wants me to return to the quest giver, they've moved somewhere else in the labyrinth. Doors that should be openable aren't and just getting round can be difficult.
Went to install MW3 last night and xbox went weird. It said I had to clear space because it's "bloody huge" but the list of games didn't appear. I went into my games and apps list and was greater by a spinning wheel in all the tabs.
It seems like the logical progression of the "Creation Club" I do think it will need some form of branding to separate it from the actual Fallout games though. "Tall Tales of the Wasteland" or something. Frame it as stories told by wastelanders around a campfire and not part of the actual canon.
I'm guessing by "multiplayer" they don't mean making the existing gamestyle co-op and they're talking more Anthem.
Because Wasteland 3, Baldur's Gate 3 (and even Divinity) show it's possible to do Co-op in an RPG and not turn the whole thing in to a "shared world" thing.
Considering every other sub is getting frequent price increases, ad-supported teirs (or adding them with an optional extra cost to remove them), and doing crackdowns (password sharing using trials), I'm not suprised Gamepass is getting the same treatment.
I'm not happy about it, I'm just not suprised.
Not happy about the screwing with "standard" though.
I don't understand why they keep doing this. Why do they drip information and let the rumour mongers fill in their own Blanks?
Whoever thought it was a good idea to annouce GP standard dropping day 1s and not elaborating further needs to be booted. I'll It would be nice a Xbox owner to not have MS stepping on a rake every 3 weeks
I do like that now all teirs of gamepass include online. Non ultimate members don't need to have two subs.
I still think removing "day 1" is silly, one if the major criticisms of PSN is its confusing teirs.
Making "standard" a streaming only version makes more sense to me, particularly with the while "you don't need an Xbox to play Xbox" thing they have going on.
Standard should keep day one games and be cloud only. Pitch it as the tier for people who "don't need an xbox to play xbox" via Fire TV, Android App, Smart TVs, Quest, and so on (have it a requirement when we can play our owned games off the cloud). Have it work on console too, but if they want to play natively they need ultimate.
They've been trying to sell me a super cheap "everything borderlands" deal for quite some time. Its not a bad deal really but I have most of them already and it doesn't include wonderlands
It was too ambitious. They was talking about recreating multiple massive AAA games in a mod that was probably going to be decade of work with nothing to show now (even more so when the the other single game ones haven't launched).
Maybe I'm "old school" now* but wasn't modders driven by passion or single minded "I can fix your mess" stubbornness. Is support code for "patron cash"?
I think building Nirn as a planet that OTHER teams could build on would have been a better start.
I want DR5 but I also wanted a DR4 and I pretty much hated everything about that game. The Controls, lacklustre co-op, tone and so on.
Don't get me wrong the new remaster is a good sign. Improved controls but not DR4's dumbness, they didn't mess with the time limits (I do agree 1's was very harsh).
I have such strong memories of the 360 era. Me and my friends playing 4 player farcry after school, co-oping Gears of War and Halo with my brother, co-oping Saints Row with my best friend, and many others. Plus it's where things changed. Online gaming became standard, the arrival of indies, and more games getting more content after launch and AAA experimenting that games still largely follow today.
Unfortunately my 360 completely gave out just after the X1 launched. So there isn't much point in me buying anything from the store.
I took a punt on Sandrock. I tried Portia and whilst I dug it's weird wholesome post apocalypse vibe, it was so. much. grind. So far Sandrock isn't as grind heavy (or at least not as fast) so I can enjoy the characters
I expected this to be announced soon enough. There's always a "bring X in to Y" mod for their games and with Starfield giving us whole worlds it was only logical to extend that tradition to a whole planet.
@Bobobiwan In theory. From what I can tell Star Wars Outlaws is structured similarly to Starfield but is hiding its loading behind that animation (like when characters shuffle through tight spaces), It'll be doing that dynamically to support your ship and the planet you're heading to.
I'm largely where I was before. I like the look of the games that are coming and assuming the quality is there "yay". Xbox is at the point it has to start delivering on all those purchases constantly, both in terms of the rate of releases and quality.
But the whole no-exclusive talk still has me rattled. If Nintendo brought their games to Xbox, I wouldn't have a Switch. As much as I love it it is simply cheaper to have one less console. If I'm thinking that as a proudly multi-format gamer, what must those who can only have one or worse yet third-party publishers be thinking? (obviously, if there next-gen console is some sort of dual boot Console and PC then all that goes away)
TLDR. I want MS to deliver some quality games and clearly state some red lines on their multiplatform policy.
I wonder if they'll add co-op, it's such a staple of the rest of the series that it seems silly to not add it.
@Ricky-Spanish Knowing Capcom they probably are, and knowing Capcom their bar for this being enough of a success for them to revive the series is impossibly high.
Off topic: I do find it interesting no one seems to be make a big deal that Xbox is giving gamepass subs who bought forza DLC a copy of the game.
On-topic: I do really love cruising around FH4, Iut would be cool if the map comes back. Kinda like that idea GTA: Online would eventually add old GTA maps.
Don't get me wrong, yay but it dose seem its only lurian and Inexile (to a lesser degree) is doing coop rpgs that aren't just "look we got stats and gear scores so we're an RPG".
It's wild to me this entire genre grew out of TTRPG, an inherently communal experience, and outside of MMOs and _____RPG coop RPGs are a extremely rare breed.
I don't know... There's a bunch that I'm really excited for but for different reasons.
Expedition 33 stood out for its presentation. I can't wait to see how State of Decay evolves with 3. Perfect Dark looks like a hi-tech Dishonoured. Atomfall is intriguing, I suspect its more Bioshock and Fallout. Mixtape looks interesting (assuming I get to skateboard)
And so on, there's no one that makes me wish I could play it before the others.
I do however remain slightly concerned about Indy. That cinematic was great but if all them are that long... it's very MGS4 Kojima.
I'm starting to worry they are going to be using them to patch gaps in the gamepass line up. So next time a months looking a little light they bust out some actibliz games.
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (August 3-4)
Hopefully.. hopefully... I'm nearing the end of Sandrock.
-Trying WWE for the weekend to see if it's worth the upgrade (eh).
-Playing Medieval Dynasty VR (whilst I wait for my buddy to be free to start the Xbox version in COOP)
-Playing more Fallout: London as my PC weeps (it REALLY doesn't like it)
Re: Fallout: London Is So Good, Some People Think It's The 'Best Game Since New Vegas'
@BowsersBuddy The full game is on GP the problem is you need to install the mod on a specific version number and the one on gamepass is a newer version. It's just extra work to get it sorted whereas a Steam user can just roll back to a previous version, and the GoG version never got the update that breaks this mod in the first place.
Re: Deals: Xbox Launches Into August With Massive 'RPG' & Ubisoft Sales
@PhileasFragg I suspect they are going to go following the "Nintendo school of discounts" basically never do any and when they do it's like 10%.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
@Romans12 You watch they'll delay Avowed because of the release schedule make a big song and dance about giving it a super polish then they'll discover Indy needs more time and is getting delayed.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
Sigh.
I get it but sigh.
Re: Xbox Dev Obsidian Has Seemingly Started Work On A Brand-New Project
I look forward to playing it in 7-8 years
Re: Microsoft CEO Reassures Investors That Xbox Is Focused On Console, PC And Mobile
See he says "content for console" but then goes on to say "expanding it to everywhere people play games"
That at best sounds like Xbox is being treated as "early access" with exclusives coming to PS/Nin later and at worse using just releasing games directly onto PS/Nin.
Re: Bungie Is 'Deepening Integration' With Sony As Layoffs Hit Ex-Halo Developer
I seem to recall it being reported that there was some sort of conflict between Sony and Bungie about being further integration and the (then) next Destiny expansion was going to decide Bungie's fate.
If that was true then I guess the expansion did offer the demanded results by the Sony execs, which is to be expected I'm sure it wasn't a reasonable target anyway.
Re: Xbox Console Sales Struggling As Hardware Revenue Nosedives At Microsoft
It's almost like ...
-trashing your platform and games (to win court cases)
-releasing exclusives on rival platforms.
-struggling to release games both in terms of frequency and quality
Are not conductive to selling hardware.
Games sell consoles. Not specs, not owning a bunch of studios or entire publishers, and not "you don't need a xbox, to play xbox" subscription service. Games!
I am not hopeful about the future of Xbox as a platform. You just don't get to have two washout generations in a row and expect excitement for another.
Re: It's Time! Fallout: London Is Now Officially Available For Free On PC
Played a bit today. It's pretty good and I am really enjoying but there's just little niggles in the design. I did a mission and it wants me to return to the quest giver, they've moved somewhere else in the labyrinth. Doors that should be openable aren't and just getting round can be difficult.
Re: Call Of Duty Currency Now Discounted On Xbox Thanks To Game Pass
Went to install MW3 last night and xbox went weird. It said I had to clear space because it's "bloody huge" but the list of games didn't appear. I went into my games and apps list and was greater by a spinning wheel in all the tabs.
Had to reset the OS to get it back.
Re: Four Years Later, People Are Still Getting Confused By Xbox's 'Horrible' Console Names
It's not surprising considering how the Wii/Wii U thing lingered longer than the console did
Re: Fallout: London Dev Wants Bethesda's Help To Create An Xbox Version
It seems like the logical progression of the "Creation Club" I do think it will need some form of branding to separate it from the actual Fallout games though. "Tall Tales of the Wasteland" or something. Frame it as stories told by wastelanders around a campfire and not part of the actual canon.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Buying In The Xbox Summer Sale This Year?
There's some nice stuff on there, will probably cash in some reward points.
That being said it is telling that I did buy 2 games in the Quest summer sale whilst I'm dawdling over the Xbox One.
Re: Talking Point: How Hyped Are You For Indiana Jones On Xbox Series X|S?
I'm excited but I do feel like it's going to disappointment me and it'll be my fault.
For reasons I'm not sure off I am expecting a dishonoured stay immersive sim.
Re: Halo TV Show Cancelled By Paramount+ After Two Seasons
Honestly once I got past the silver timeline guff, I ended up enjoying the show for what it was.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales Down A Third In Europe With 'Weaker Software Lineup' In 2024
It's almost like hardware sales are driven by software sales. **guestures at microsoft**
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Multiplayer Was 'Looked At', But It Just Didn't Work
I'm guessing by "multiplayer" they don't mean making the existing gamestyle co-op and they're talking more Anthem.
Because Wasteland 3, Baldur's Gate 3 (and even Divinity) show it's possible to do Co-op in an RPG and not turn the whole thing in to a "shared world" thing.
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (July 16)
Managed to finish coffee talk 2 before it left, magical delicacy seems like the perfect follow up (and puts of me having to make a choice in sandrock)
Re: Analysts Claim Xbox Game Pass Price Hikes Were 'Inevitable', And That An Ad-Tier Could Be Next
Considering every other sub is getting frequent price increases, ad-supported teirs (or adding them with an optional extra cost to remove them), and doing crackdowns (password sharing using trials), I'm not suprised Gamepass is getting the same treatment.
I'm not happy about it, I'm just not suprised.
Not happy about the screwing with "standard" though.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 13-14)
Coffee Talk 2. Been putting it off long enough and I don't play it now, I'll have to bymuy the switch double pack.
Re: Rumour: Day One Releases Delayed On A 'Case-By-Case Basis' For Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
I don't understand why they keep doing this. Why do they drip information and let the rumour mongers fill in their own Blanks?
Whoever thought it was a good idea to annouce GP standard dropping day 1s and not elaborating further needs to be booted.
I'll
It would be nice a Xbox owner to not have MS stepping on a rake every 3 weeks
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
I do like that now all teirs of gamepass include online. Non ultimate members don't need to have two subs.
I still think removing "day 1" is silly, one if the major criticisms of PSN is its confusing teirs.
Making "standard" a streaming only version makes more sense to me, particularly with the while "you don't need an Xbox to play Xbox" thing they have going on.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
Standard should keep day one games and be cloud only. Pitch it as the tier for people who "don't need an xbox to play xbox" via Fire TV, Android App, Smart TVs, Quest, and so on (have it a requirement when we can play our owned games off the cloud). Have it work on console too, but if they want to play natively they need ultimate.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
Gamepass standard seems like a poor move. Gamepass having day 1 titles is it's USP compared to other subs (excluding Ubi).
If they needed a cheaper their that you'll want to upgrade I think a cloud only tier would work.
Re: Xbox's New 'Just For You' Offers Include Super-Cheap Mafia Trilogy Deal
@FarmDog08 it is an religiously good deal, don't get me wrong. It's like 6 games + their DLC for £24 it's a damn steal.
Just checked my deals, I don't have the Mafia one but it now has Wonderlands complete for £16
Re: Xbox's New 'Just For You' Offers Include Super-Cheap Mafia Trilogy Deal
They've been trying to sell me a super cheap "everything borderlands" deal for quite some time. Its not a bad deal really but I have most of them already and it doesn't include wonderlands
Re: When Will The Xbox Summer Sale 2024 Be Revealed?
I can't remember, do these sales tend to overlap with Prime Day?
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Are You Getting On With Microsoft Rewards In 2024?
@FarmDog08 yeah it was going to Comic Relief so it's good.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Are You Getting On With Microsoft Rewards In 2024?
I'm doing much better after discovering I was donating ALOT and was able to disable it, By a lot I mean like 45,000 points over years.
I thought the changes was drastically limiting my "earnings" turns out most of it was going right out the door.
Re: Starfield Modder Blames Lack Of Support As Elder Scrolls Project Gets Cancelled
It was too ambitious. They was talking about recreating multiple massive AAA games in a mod that was probably going to be decade of work with nothing to show now (even more so when the the other single game ones haven't launched).
Maybe I'm "old school" now* but wasn't modders driven by passion or single minded "I can fix your mess" stubbornness. Is support code for "patron cash"?
I think building Nirn as a planet that OTHER teams could build on would have been a better start.
*now excuse me whilst I turn into dust.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About 2024 On Xbox So Far?
Infinite Wealth and Dragons Dogma 2 have been fantastic hilights of 2024 for me.
Re: Xbox Suffers 'Major Outage' As Servers Go Down For Most Players
I hope this makes people affected set their Xbox as their home Xbox. I know a lot of people who didn't set their X or S as their home after upgrading.
I don't because I'm game sharing with my kids so I couldn't play but hey, live by the loophole, die by the loophole
Re: Talking Point: Are You Hopeful That Capcom Is Working On 'Dead Rising 5'?
I want DR5 but I also wanted a DR4 and I pretty much hated everything about that game. The Controls, lacklustre co-op, tone and so on.
Don't get me wrong the new remaster is a good sign. Improved controls but not DR4's dumbness, they didn't mess with the time limits (I do agree 1's was very harsh).
Re: Six Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Early July 2024
I REALLY need to play coffee talk 2, I've been putting it off for far too long.
Re: PSA: We're Officially In The Last Month Ever For The Xbox 360 Store
I have such strong memories of the 360 era. Me and my friends playing 4 player farcry after school, co-oping Gears of War and Halo with my brother, co-oping Saints Row with my best friend, and many others. Plus it's where things changed. Online gaming became standard, the arrival of indies, and more games getting more content after launch and AAA experimenting that games still largely follow today.
Unfortunately my 360 completely gave out just after the X1 launched. So there isn't much point in me buying anything from the store.
Re: Pick One: Which Dead Rising Game Is Your Favourite On Xbox?
Not 4.
...
More specific? Hmm 3 is the better game and I feel like it found a hood balance with the timer but I prefer 2.
3's tone felt off like it was trying to be grim and camp?
3's also feels generic compared to DR1's mall, DR2/OTRs psudo Vegas strip.
Again 3 plays better but when I close my eyes and ask myself to play 1 DR game its two I go for.
Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Game In June 2024?
I took a punt on Sandrock. I tried Portia and whilst I dug it's weird wholesome post apocalypse vibe, it was so. much. grind. So far Sandrock isn't as grind heavy (or at least not as fast) so I can enjoy the characters
Re: 'Project Tamriel' Is A Mod Aiming To Bring The Elder Scrolls To Starfield
I expected this to be announced soon enough. There's always a "bring X in to Y" mod for their games and with Starfield giving us whole worlds it was only logical to extend that tradition to a whole planet.
@Bobobiwan In theory. From what I can tell Star Wars Outlaws is structured similarly to Starfield but is hiding its loading behind that animation (like when characters shuffle through tight spaces), It'll be doing that dynamically to support your ship and the planet you're heading to.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Do You Feel About The Future Of The Brand In 2024?
I'm largely where I was before. I like the look of the games that are coming and assuming the quality is there "yay". Xbox is at the point it has to start delivering on all those purchases constantly, both in terms of the rate of releases and quality.
But the whole no-exclusive talk still has me rattled. If Nintendo brought their games to Xbox, I wouldn't have a Switch. As much as I love it it is simply cheaper to have one less console. If I'm thinking that as a proudly multi-format gamer, what must those who can only have one or worse yet third-party publishers be thinking? (obviously, if there next-gen console is some sort of dual boot Console and PC then all that goes away)
TLDR. I want MS to deliver some quality games and clearly state some red lines on their multiplatform policy.
Re: Action RPG 'Robin Hood: Sherwood Builders' Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (June 27)
Downloading it now, will try it after Sandrock (enjoying it much more than Portia) but I am expecting a fair degree of jank
Re: Capcom Announces New Dead Rising Remaster, Likely Coming To Xbox Series X|S
I wonder if they'll add co-op, it's such a staple of the rest of the series that it seems silly to not add it.
@Ricky-Spanish Knowing Capcom they probably are, and knowing Capcom their bar for this being enough of a success for them to revive the series is impossibly high.
Re: Soapbox: Forza Horizon 4 Hosted The Best Racing In The Series, And I'll Be Sad To See It Go
Off topic: I do find it interesting no one seems to be make a big deal that Xbox is giving gamepass subs who bought forza DLC a copy of the game.
On-topic: I do really love cruising around FH4, Iut would be cool if the map comes back. Kinda like that idea GTA: Online would eventually add old GTA maps.
Re: The Coalition Continues To Hype Up Gears Of War: E-Day With New Message In Gears 5
It would be nice if it hits next year but I suspect it won't.
I wonder if Gabe Diaz will be in it, maybe a story DLC.
Re: Xbox's Acquisition Of Obsidian Helped The Team Stick To Single-Player For Avowed
Don't get me wrong, yay but it dose seem its only lurian and Inexile (to a lesser degree) is doing coop rpgs that aren't just "look we got stats and gear scores so we're an RPG".
It's wild to me this entire genre grew out of TTRPG, an inherently communal experience, and outside of MMOs and _____RPG coop RPGs are a extremely rare breed.
Re: Pick One: Which Game From This Year's Xbox Showcase Are You Most Excited For?
I don't know...
There's a bunch that I'm really excited for but for different reasons.
Expedition 33 stood out for its presentation.
I can't wait to see how State of Decay evolves with 3.
Perfect Dark looks like a hi-tech Dishonoured.
Atomfall is intriguing, I suspect its more Bioshock and Fallout.
Mixtape looks interesting (assuming I get to skateboard)
And so on, there's no one that makes me wish I could play it before the others.
I do however remain slightly concerned about Indy. That cinematic was great but if all them are that long... it's very MGS4 Kojima.
Re: Xbox Is Hosting Its 'Biggest Booth Yet' At Gamescom This August
It is a shame xbox doesn't seem to be doing a GC showcase again this year but I guess that's the cost of having a great not-E3 showcase.
Re: Two Xbox Properties Cross Over As Fallout Meets Call Of Duty Later This Week
It's wild to me it's just Vault suits.
Not even the warn, mended, armoured versions
Why isn't there a skin that turns the weapons into Fallout versions?
Re: Todd Howard Confirms 'Year 2' For Starfield Including Second Big Expansion
I like the idea of Starfield having anual expansions along side updates.
Ideally, I'd like to see updates adding in more POIs, features some smaller fleshed-out settlements and new universe variations.
Re: Xbox's 2024 Showcase Was Great, But It Was Missing A Big ActiBlizz Announcement
I'm starting to worry they are going to be using them to patch gaps in the gamepass line up. So next time a months looking a little light they bust out some actibliz games.