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If Microsoft were in Sonys shoes, they also wouldn’t release it. It just is what it is.

If it’s a ‘PC’ with steam (which I doubt) then no it won’t have a drive.

Because no one will buy off the Xbox store it will only get use for GPU, everything will be bought on steam.

@Kaloudz I never really use any store reviews as 90% of the time it’s just nonsense.

I normally just give them a quick glance to check that there isn’t a common theme that points to performance issues.

So all the games are already on steam. Cheaper than Xbox. With a well built user base.

Majority of games by 27 will be on switch2/ps.

So who exactly, outside of current Xbox users are going to be that interested?

Obviously on a publisher/software side of thing they are in a good place.

But hardware is showing to be another story. It’s not even like there is a big user base to lean on.

Personally I can’t see how it will have steam, run the games anywhere near equivalent to a PC version. Or be at an affordable price.

Sounds like it’s one to maybe give them a couple of months to put a few updates/changes in place.

£380 for refurb. In a sale.

Sony are doing 430 with Astro bot for new.

I wish MS would let consumers know what the stock issue is all about.

Has @purexbox tried contacting Microsoft ?

I still don’t see it supporting steam.

Games on steam are £20-30 cheaper. Having steam on the system, actually makes GP not as valuable. (Currently you can say day1 saves you £70, but with steam that changes to £40-50).

It’s also far less revenue for MS. - are PC players going to migrate back to it? Probably not, if anything we are seeing more shift to PC.

The Pro has to some extent limited what would have been a much bigger performance gap.

Still going to have to support the S -will S users upgrade from a £200 console to what is probably going to be £600? (Bearing in mind around 50% are using the S).

Many many people will only upgrade to the X/S/5 once GTA releases. Are they then going to want another console so soon?

It’s going to be a very tricky juggling act. I can understand wanting to get the ‘jump’ on the next PS, so let’s watch this space.

Far too early to care or give it much thought in all honesty.

@donv2135 sales down for everyone… article literally says ps5 is up by 7%.

@Weebleman some people won’t accept any negativity of their favourite brand. Makes discussions hard because everything will be a positive regardless. Some positive is good. No denying that but sometimes it can be to detriment as posters have good knowledge.

No matter what the data is showing.

@Wakkawipeout the next system won’t do any better, Infact it will probably be worse.

Handhelds outside of the switch don’t sell (steam deck is less than 5m as example).

Sony is selling and that means generally those people are buying digital games and building up a library, they won’t leave that behind to start a new console (proof being that Cod didn’t increase Xbox sales despite being on gp)

It’s just the unfortunate reality, and the reason MS have gone multi platform.

It’s the devs first full game no?

They said they had issues so just need to respect that - hopefully rather than them half assing it they release BMW in a good state, the delay would be worth it and Xbox players can enjoy it

It comes it goes it comes it goes.

Flip flopping between Xbox and ps.

Must be a slow news day for gta 5 to be worthy of its own article lol.

@Kezelpaso thanks for that. Thought I had heard of it before!

I wonder if SEGA are gearing up to do their own subscription ala Ubisoft?

Seems a lot of their content has left recently

I said it in the previous article that I don’t believe MS need any of these. I don’t think there is huge money to be made in what uni would let go

(I don’t think farcry AC and probably the division/rainbow six stuff will be sold)

That said something like riders republic/trials/steep because it’s something that MS do not have in their stable.

If it’s hand held…. Just call it the Xbox handheld

Do away with confusing names. Keep it simple. And let everyone know it’s an Xbox.

Honestly it’s a fine 7/10

Some bad bits, some decent bits to it.

It would have to be on GP as it wouldn’t sell (it quickly dropped in price on PS).

Overall is it worth the effort from all sides? Probably not.

They wouldn’t be allowed to buy Ubisoft as a whole (not that they would want to).

I also think MS are in a perfectly good place studio wise that they don’t really need anything in the Ubisoft stable.

They have plenty of varied IP and stuff in the back catalogue that could be brought back to life.

Yes because I’d trust just eat drivers with a £500 console.

Half of the time you can’t trust them with a £5 order.

If we all know about it. And it’s leaked.

Is it a shadow drop?
Or as usual have ‘leakers’ spoiled it

I think again the price will be the issue.

The rumours I’ve seen (and yes probably unfounded and BS) they were suggesting $5-600

Steam is often cheaper. So how will that work in MS favour? Especially as there were the rumours of game prices going up with the likes of gta.

Or will MS just stop selling actual games and just provide gamepass.

Or else why use an ‘Xbox’ when pc is still there?

Will be interesting to see what comes. More importantly is the price. Considering the 2025 handheld is rumoured to be $500 and not play console games.

Putting it sub £200 isn’t exactly rare. I gout mine for £180.

But it’s all good and well saying do this/that and we have no idea how the game will actually run.

Let’s see where we are at in 30mpnths time when it will be roughly due.

Specs? Price (trump will still be in office). Who knows how the world will be. Maybe streaming will be in a better spot by then?

Way too many variables and too far away to give it much thought.

@Weebleman yeah last week or so we have them talking about specs just signed off, CoD going to previous Gen.

Then suddenly it’s a new console next year.

Next year imo only makes sense if GTA is delayed. Because then it would be ‘best place to play’. If not people have already bought their consoles for it this winter,

@Fiendish-Beaver but by that logic, releasing a year earlier than Sony (while everything is still cross gen) would mean Sony would just beat MS specifications a year later.

Because they would know what’s in the console (just as MS do with Sony kit) that’s why they always end up pretty similar in terms of performance.

Is releasing early going to tempt enough of the 30million to upgrade to a new console?

Is it going to make PS users buy one?

@themightyant my apologies I misread the article. It doesn’t state 80%

@Kezelpaso argos is location specific. I’m NW England. No stock nearby.

No stock on major online retailers either - stuff like shopto, gamecollection.

@themightyant most recent figures said it was around 80% on console. (MS well known for hiding figures)

GPU isn’t growing at any sort of big numbers (latest financials show this) they only reported growth in PC GP.

So logic would dictate that majority of users are still on console.

@HonestHick I’ve enjoyed it so far, but my initial ‘hype’ has definitely lowered.

Either way there’s a great platform to build from for a second entry.

@HonestHick as wide as an ocean and as deep as a puddle sadly.

The more you play. The more you notice things.

Still a solid game but certainly has issues

We have seen quite a bit of clockwork revolution so there has to be a chance of that?

I think we will only find out more once GTA has a date/delay.

Unsurprising. A shame but it is what it is

@Ilyn which makes no sense because there are more westerners playing PS than Xbox.

As a f2p they should have gone multiplatform.

But I did like that the dev can joke around a little and not be too serious!

@themightyant I despise the using steam player count for anything. It’s such a bad metric

Glad it has done well for them. Personally the more I’m playing it the more the original gloss is wearing off. Still enjoying it and will finish my play through.

It’s a nice world. But it’s a very very shallow world. Has graphical bugs during cutscenes (series S) to name a few.

But the dev wants to do more in the world so there’s an excellent base to build upon and improve. - and as it’s sold well etc there’s more chance of a sequel

AI is coming. Regardless of what people want.

It’s going to bring a lot of job losses with it too - not just at MS.

@MonsterMike you can spend quite a length of time each and every day to complete the quests to get points - it used to be very quick but it now takes far longer - and you can get ‘streaks’ to increase the rewards.

But nowadays and with the price increase it’s honestly not worth the time

If you have points to spend. Buy the 3month for 35k while it’s there. I got them yesterday still.

That’s going to hit 50k for 3months (if it sticks to current formula).

Point farming is pretty much well gone now. I think we will see conversion trick finish tgis year. And I predict a price rise by end of June.

I already owned it on ps, but if you are into crpg I can not recommend this highly enough.

@HonestHick if you think it will have less ads you are dreaming.

Would be great without ads.

I prefer the less cluttered PS screen. But the Xbox one works well.

@themightyant id expect the 3month to go upto 50k so yeah stack now.

@purexbox @kezelpaso (apologies not the right thread)

Is the cost of auto redeeming GPU through points going up? I’ve seen screenshots of it now being 17k points per month.

Or do we know if it’s an error?

Rogue trader is well worth playing if you enjoy crpg.

Huge time sink tho!

@OldGamer999 im even more confused because at Christmas your uni son brought his series X back for you to use as you didn’t have one!

I don’t know how you keep up lol!

@OldGamer999 im curious.

How many consoles have you bought and sold in the last year?

At Christmas you didn’t even have an Xbox. Now you have swung so far the other way you are talking of selling your ps.

Must be respond for 25m of the 30m Xbox sold!

It’s an 8 but it’s not a bad 8. Based on early impressions I’m enjoying it as I knew I would. But playing on series S you can tell there’s a few issues.

But yeah I’ll be playing till completion I would wager!

I guess now we know about it. It just drops on that day? Shame as would have created buzz at the show!