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Considering most stuff still releases on the previous generation I just can’t see it happening.

I don’t think an early release would massively boost MS and subscription etc. because most 3rd party games would focus the bigger market of PS/series console.

(Although an unneeded PsPro console may help MS bridge a generation gap) has the tech advanced enough to make a cheap enough next gen console that has a big enough advantage?

@BAMozzy great it’s an option to play anywhere (yet we know from data that people just aren’t because subs etc are not growing.)

How many casuals know play anywhere is an option? How many parents who aren’t necessarily tech savvy know a fire stick can play Xbox games?

Very few will.

Guess why? Oh yes no advertisements about it. No ads for game pass etc. unless you read gaming sites you just won’t know.

@BAMozzy sonys marketing budget has nothing to do with what they put on a sub service.

Spending 200m on a game, then dropping it on a sub service is just not financially sustainable or viable for Sony. They haven’t got the capital. The amount of sub increases required to make that money back is not achievable.

Xbox don’t advertise and look what is happening sales dropping all over. So no advertisement is actively harming them more than the competition. Subs aren’t growing either.

What you have talked about is just made up nonsense. Proved by real world evidence.

Microsoft just don’t care about the rest of the world.

Raffles mainly for the US, perks often for US only. Less advertising, less presence.

@Sol4ris im front and centre of the hate queue. And I don’t MP. But who is going to spend £40 on it when everything Similar is free?

@Sol4ris Sony might have to pay other platforms to put it on there!

@K1LLEGAL

A price rise a couple of months before the new CoD releases, change in tier system. No back titles added from ABK deal yet. The price rise within less than a year of the deal completed.

But sure believe it isn’t ABK deal etc.

@pip_muzz but Lego didn’t promise not to do things to get a $70billion deal through?

There’s a little bit of a difference.

Nothing has dropped really for either ps5/series that is from first party stuff, I know the second half looks better so hopefully these deliver across both platforms

Think I’ll get it for £20-30 I’m Black Friday deals.

Give them a chance to drop some patches and fix all the stuff the early adopters will beta test.

@DeanyBabyy probably will have a short spike in the US because of NFL Support over there.

But with no numbers, what is a spike? 10% 50? 100+? What’s an average days sale etc etc?

@Toot1st yet SM2 only released on ps5. And they sold all those copies too.

SF had Xbox, pc and released on a sub. A far wider reaching audience. Was billed as Bethesda’s game of the generation, Skyrim in space etc.

And that’s not to say 14million is terrible, but it’s probably lower than expected

@themightyant what you say is true.

Plus this is a meaningless statistic. Because plenty of people try a game and bounce off after 30mins because of subscription models, yet are still counted as a player.

Usually companies stretch to different statistics because by usual measures it’s not doing as well as expected.

Not to mention there is 30mil (approx) GP subscribers. Plus sales on PC. I’d fully agree it’s probably not done as well as hoped. ( and in a personal opinion part of the reason the multi platform is happening)

The current one is the ad version as there are loads on my dashboard.

Jokes aside…

There will be an AD version. Haven’t they done previous marketing questions? Which will start with a few ads and Gradually build into more.

I haven’t played it but I’ve watched it sections of it.

It looks beautiful honestly one of the best looking games out there.

@themightyant @somnambulance I mean to be fair the title should just say it’s coming to Xbox. Because it is available to those who don’t have/use/want gamepass. Or want to own it.

But it also points to the other article which shows favour to gamepass and not Xbox.

Maybe if you are going to use that it’s a gamepass game in the headline rather than an Xbox game, You may have to start referencing which tier of GP it will be released on.

Jesus Christ.

Does Microsoft have any feet left they can shoot themselves in.

For a multi trillion dollar company you would think they could hire some half decent PR guys.

@CERBERUS40000 it’s not free.

Anything you have to get beyond what you are naturally getting by playing the game has a time cost.

In the UK I can guarantee that it costs far more in time that what it does to earn that £12. Of course you have to be in a job that does overtime or whatever.

But still MS has th best reward program, and I’ve got 100k ish saved up. But it’s just now far less rewarding.

@Sifi oh come on.

You may be the biggest apologist and cheerleader for MS, but even you can’t be that ignorant to see there is barely any Xbox marketing in the UK. And that’s it’s strongest market in Europe.

@NEStalgia where is Phil these days? He’s done what one interview in the last few months? The one around the state of play. He’s normally very vocal, it’s like he’s being pushed behind the scenes.

They are totally lost on strategy at the minute, just hoping something will stick. Of course we are never going to be told everything but some communication on goals, growth business plans are helpful (as most companies announce) rather than flip flopping and making decisions based on that days weather.

It’s already started.

Read many of purexbox recent headlines. If the game is available on gamepass.

It doesn’t say ‘something something XBOX game’

They are all titled ‘something something gamepass game’

@NEStalgia thing that gets me is Sony have stumbled so much this gen.

Like you said £70 games, increase in their PS subs, this switch to live service/low game output. Increasing console prices.

Yet MS still hasn’t taken any advantage of this. They have just followed suit (outside of live service). They could have had so much goodwill, with a cheaper console and cheaper games.

But they can’t even get the ‘bad’ news out right, it’s always drawn out with rumours swirling. It’s 2 days since price rise and still they haven’t clarified anything, yet they must know what’s being said on gaming sites/media. Why let the flames fan?

At least Sony just come out with it and say prices are going up. This is our sun service or whatever. And that’s that. No messing.

I pre ordered Rebirth, but physical simply because I could get it for £50.

I’d never preorder digital on any platform. Hardly like they are going to sell out.

@BAMozzy

Simple answer.

Sony DO NOT have day 1 games as it’s unique selling point. Hence no questions on when it will come.

Ms has day 1 games as it’s unique selling point.

Well maybe it does. Maybe it doesn’t. MS released new tiers. Announced price changes etc…. Without exactly saying what you will get for your money.

Sony also weren’t the first to raise to $70. MS didn’t have to follow either. But if you want to keep peddling false information as you did in another thread. Go for it.

Hmmm wonder how it works for early access purchases and having the standard edition of GP?

@FraserG your very first line says

‘Xbox game pass isn’t your average first person shooter’

@Titntin oh yeah they all just want to empty our pockets.

But I think more are wary with MS due to the size and previous tactics etc

@NEStalgia I think Xbox are just stuck. Throwing things at the wall and hoping something will stick.

In the last year alone…

2 GPU price rises.
New/change tiers.
Early access charges for day 1 (day 5) gpgames
70billion on ABK (with currently little to show in GPU additions).
Games on competition consoles.

And nothing is working. Sales are down. Subscriptions are levelling.

So what do they try next? I really don’t think they know. They are so used to outspending the competition and it’s not working currently.

@Titntin but but but they didn’t specify which game pass level would get day 1 ( well day 5 after trying to get us to shill out for early access).

One of my beliefs that Xbox doesn’t do as well in Europe is because we don’t settle for the BS that some big corps put out.

@Jark and all you need to do is research online and what this guy says is pretty much true.

All the info is out there that subs are stagnating (PS too not just Xbox). Xbox has consistently missed its growth targets, to the point where Phil and Satya (I think) missed bonuses around this.

So much like Disney/Netflix etc once saturation point is hit, you milk the existing customers (ms nerfing rewards/price increase) Netflix (password sharing/price rise).

Sony will follow suit with a price rise within 3 months - now one has done it the other can.

@BAMozzy @Godot25 I replied that because @BAMozzy said extra doesn’t get day 1 games.when since both you have said they do. So what was quoted was wrong. (As I said it was barely any)

Premium doesn’t give day 1 over extra. Nor does it give day 1 Sony games. Or get Sony games before extra.

If people are going to compare then they have to do it correct not make stuff up.

@BAMozzy you are wrong.

Extra gets day 1.

Sony just don’t offer much day 1. It’s got a bigger library in place.

@Godot25 problem is, will GPU keep getting day 1? Not long ago MS said there would be no price rise etc.

MS are so so bad with communication. Even when they say it’s not happening it then does.

@Scirius depends how you look at it.

Ps5 v X same price. PSPremium £120 v GPU ultimate £180. However you can often pick up 12months of premium for £60ish. Ms don’t do sales on GPU but they do let you buy from key sellers (currently). Xbox has rewards that is better than Ps stars. GPU has day 1, premium has more games.

The value is extremely similar. For comparison of as much alike as possible.

Of course there is then the cheaper series S or play over fire stick etc

To the people that say oh it’s just £2. Have to remember us who comment here are enthusiasts so we are more likely to swallow it.

It’s casuals and especially families who will be more squeezed by these rises.

@NEStalgia @themightyant could be worse. You could just announce you can have GPU on fire stick. Let people sign up. Then 2 days later tell them there’s a price increase.

Oh wait.

Have to laugh. I literally called this a few months ago.

I knew only the highest tier would get new games.

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2024/05/xbox-game-pass-will-see-changes-when-call-of-duty-arrives-rumours-suggest

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Nope. Not bought for any of them.

Helps realising most of it is overpriced

@OldGamer999 to be fair you probably have more ps/nintendo fans on sites (simply due to the numbers over Xbox)

I think if you see Xbox start to deliver consistent 9/10 games, releasing in a good state then more people will be excited about the upcoming releases.

@johnK no.

It’s also delayed on ps5.

It was released a mess on pc. Probably rushed out as paradox had a few releases struggle.

So it’s better they get it right,

To be fair 48hrs isn’t long notice for checking a twitter message.

Not everyone is glued to social media. Especially 4months after the competition opened.

@ImperialOwl215 except it’s not free money. You had to ‘grind’ for it.

Time : money it’s not even close to minimum wage.

MS get plenty from us doing these searches etc.

But as I said above it’s still the best of the 3

It’s the best point system out of the 3.

However time : point reward is now much lower. So people saying it’s great they get £5 or whatever are actually using a lot more time than what £5 is worth. (I used to point collect more regular).

I just play games now and get whatever I get from it.

I picked it up for £20 on ps5, definitely more like RCT than planet coaster.

If you are used to playing things like AoE etc on consoles then the control scheme is easier to pick up, admittedly as says in the article it could be a little bit more streamlined.

But it’s a fun game.

@Bobobiwan sony do have games on Xbox

MLB the show being one. Maybe they would prefer it not to be there. But it is. And stuff like destiny too.

@NEStalgia @themightyant I think you will see more of a drip feed to fill in the months without MS own releases.

But I’m still surprised they didn’t drop some of the older CoDs over the last few months, as you would imagine they wouldn’t want to release them close to the new game.

@Cikajovazmaj normally running a beta involves time/resources/beta build etc

Hopefully they are skipping it for polishing etc.

The worry is if it needs a major overhaul or something.

I guess it’s now a wait for reviews and potentially pick up later.

Quick resume… when it works.

Best feature of this generation.

Personally still don’t think Microsoft has landed a full on banger of a game this generation that has just blown everyone away. But there is of course lots of potential on the horizon for that.