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Hardly surprising considering it’s nigh on impossible to get the regular series X for the entire year.

Certainly worth its money.

But like every subscription the longer you have it the more the ‘value’ drops.

So no harm if people dip in and out of it.

@jesse_dylan it comes and goes. Usually 3month on GP then 3month on Plus and cycles them.

It’s not a shadow drop if it’s been leaked and reported on.

@Friendly Xbox makes a loss of between $100-200 on each console sold.

PS have made a profit for a while.

Both obviously make their money on services/games

@OldGamer999 teraflops mean nothing.

There’s a difference between a handheld and a home console.

The Xbox handheld (Asus collab) is going to be more expensive than a switch and similar to an X.

I expect them to follow. As I expect both Plus/gp to increase.

I think it may take a while before MS raises prices - it looks like they have taken the stock from every other country to stockpile in the US.

Id enjoy the Xbox ones more if the screen wasn’t so cluttered. It really annoys me. I just like simple and minimal

Wilds for me so far!

Im guessing (as others have mentioned) that this is where switch 2 ports will be shown

Same prices as every other sale. Same as what Sony do.

@Juanalf not at all. No where have I said that. So how you come to that leap is beyond me.

But is he going to jump down Sony/xbox throat when they follow and increase the price? I doubt it.

Will he say anything when the asus/xbox handheld is more expensive?

You can’t just rail on one company when all 3 will do the same.

What is he going to say when both Xbox and PS also charge £80? - and when he realises the Xbox handheld will cost more?

@EvilBear you can’t compare with ‘inflation adjusted’

In the n64 era (for instance), we got the full game on the cartridge, we got fancy boxes, manuals, artwork, posters, maps all kinds.

Now we get a cheap case, cheap disc and bit of a cover. Without the game on it. While manufacturing costs have reduced, supply chains are better.

Then there’s digital, where there’s no reason for it to be as high as it is.

Snap it up at 35k points, it’s potentially going to go to 51k

At £70/80 no chance. Same for any console. Even GTA.

Most of my day 1 stuff I get physical so only paid £48 for mhwilds.

£50/55is my limit these days, there’s so many games I haven’t played I can wait, use gp or extra to fill in the quiet times.

Not for me, but good to see it’s another solid release on day 1

I think there’s a fair bit of cope in this article.

Asus handheld is going to be more expensive.

Gamepass is already good value - but last I checked, it doesn’t have the Nintendo games on it that people will buy the switch 2 for.

Nintendo raising prices means both MS and Sony will follow suit. As soon as one does it the other 2 follow.

How does MS have any manoeuvrability around consoles - none are available to buy? And they are the most expensive of the 3.

Sure they will make more money by selling on switch2. And thats all MS care about.

@FraserG super easy solution - type faster! (I joke I joke)

@Utena-mobile unless it’s on gamepass the articles don’t drive any traffic.

Where unfortunately console wars/ or game not coming to Xbox does.

So it just shows where the priority of Xbox gamers actually lies.

For 3 months, then to PS for 3 months.

Unfortunately for many today the overriding thought is on the price of the games.

Really overshadows a decent price of the console

Game price goes up, subscription will follow. And yes I expect both to now happen across all systems.

The console at 400 is affordable. The games for families? Maybe not so.

@fatpunkslim why are you so worried about what Sony are or aren’t showing? Article has nothing to do with them.

Im glad so many have downloaded it and tried it. That’s great news.

But so so so many people are saying they played 15minutes and dropped it because of the bugs and issues (the beauty of trying it on GP) I hope that they come back and give it a go once it’s fixed.

Price is going to make or break it. Last rumours I saw had it at $499

I just get what I get these days.

The time investment is certainly no longer worth it to go looking for points.

@Millionski yeah people keep forgetting that future releases will have the PS version developed alongside the Xbox version going forward.

From 26 is when I think we will see all MS day1 elsewhere. I feel this year may be a little too soon for a couple of games

I’m looking forward to playing atomfall in a couple of months once the bugs are ironed out.

@themightyant just to be awkward.

AC shadows has had 9 articles (inc review) on Eurogamer in 10 days. Yet KCD2 sold similar, and talked about as GoTY contender.

Not saying either is wrong, but sometimes EG can get a bee in its bonnet regarding online recourse outside of a game.

@Residentsteven it’s this mad concept where sometimes mass produced items aren’t of the same quality.

I’m on my 3rd Xbox controller - 2 went in the first year with stick drift. So 3rd one is vs lasting much better granted.

Yet my ps5 is older - original controller. My original ps4 controller has had a trigger break in almost 10yrs.

My switch - original controller.

Ps5 is most played. It can just happen as they are cheaply made.

Really wanted to like it - and it’s in no way of a ‘bad’ game - I just disliked that it threw super cars at me so early. It’s like oh ok then I’m done

@themightyant yeah there was a lot of posts on the atomfall sub yesterday about issues (most were on Xbox too) so it’s certainly a wait.

May actually try college football.

Be warned for atomfall a lot of posts on the subreddit that Xbox (seems to be mainly Xbox related posts) are having sound issues.

It seems like it may need a patch or two (stalker 2 vibes) to be more enjoyable.

@Kaloudz im going to throw it out here which is fine - because it drives traffic - but there would be no rage if there wasn’t an article on it.

We don’t get an article for every AbC game that isn’t going on XYZ.

But like I say I get it, it drives engagement - look here I am adding to it!

If Microsoft were in Sonys shoes, they also wouldn’t release it. It just is what it is.

If it’s a ‘PC’ with steam (which I doubt) then no it won’t have a drive.

Because no one will buy off the Xbox store it will only get use for GPU, everything will be bought on steam.

@Kaloudz I never really use any store reviews as 90% of the time it’s just nonsense.

I normally just give them a quick glance to check that there isn’t a common theme that points to performance issues.

So all the games are already on steam. Cheaper than Xbox. With a well built user base.

Majority of games by 27 will be on switch2/ps.

So who exactly, outside of current Xbox users are going to be that interested?

Obviously on a publisher/software side of thing they are in a good place.

But hardware is showing to be another story. It’s not even like there is a big user base to lean on.

Personally I can’t see how it will have steam, run the games anywhere near equivalent to a PC version. Or be at an affordable price.

Sounds like it’s one to maybe give them a couple of months to put a few updates/changes in place.

£380 for refurb. In a sale.

Sony are doing 430 with Astro bot for new.

I wish MS would let consumers know what the stock issue is all about.

Has @purexbox tried contacting Microsoft ?

I still don’t see it supporting steam.

Games on steam are £20-30 cheaper. Having steam on the system, actually makes GP not as valuable. (Currently you can say day1 saves you £70, but with steam that changes to £40-50).

It’s also far less revenue for MS. - are PC players going to migrate back to it? Probably not, if anything we are seeing more shift to PC.

The Pro has to some extent limited what would have been a much bigger performance gap.

Still going to have to support the S -will S users upgrade from a £200 console to what is probably going to be £600? (Bearing in mind around 50% are using the S).

Many many people will only upgrade to the X/S/5 once GTA releases. Are they then going to want another console so soon?

It’s going to be a very tricky juggling act. I can understand wanting to get the ‘jump’ on the next PS, so let’s watch this space.

Far too early to care or give it much thought in all honesty.

@donv2135 sales down for everyone… article literally says ps5 is up by 7%.

@Weebleman some people won’t accept any negativity of their favourite brand. Makes discussions hard because everything will be a positive regardless. Some positive is good. No denying that but sometimes it can be to detriment as posters have good knowledge.

No matter what the data is showing.

@Wakkawipeout the next system won’t do any better, Infact it will probably be worse.

Handhelds outside of the switch don’t sell (steam deck is less than 5m as example).

Sony is selling and that means generally those people are buying digital games and building up a library, they won’t leave that behind to start a new console (proof being that Cod didn’t increase Xbox sales despite being on gp)

It’s just the unfortunate reality, and the reason MS have gone multi platform.

It’s the devs first full game no?

They said they had issues so just need to respect that - hopefully rather than them half assing it they release BMW in a good state, the delay would be worth it and Xbox players can enjoy it

It comes it goes it comes it goes.

Flip flopping between Xbox and ps.

Must be a slow news day for gta 5 to be worthy of its own article lol.

@Kezelpaso thanks for that. Thought I had heard of it before!

I wonder if SEGA are gearing up to do their own subscription ala Ubisoft?

Seems a lot of their content has left recently

I said it in the previous article that I don’t believe MS need any of these. I don’t think there is huge money to be made in what uni would let go

(I don’t think farcry AC and probably the division/rainbow six stuff will be sold)

That said something like riders republic/trials/steep because it’s something that MS do not have in their stable.