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@theduckofdeath obviously reviews are different for people’s preferences. But a well reviewed game a week/few days in advance can help to build up interest. (Especially since it’s a more niche title)

You would hardly know this game releases day 1 on Gamepass tomorrow there has been such little marketing.

@FraserG thanks for that.

Thought they would do reviews today.

I get it’s a niche title but for a first party release you would think they’d want to get impressions out, as I do believe it will review well

When do reviews drop

Potentially 3 tiers?

Core (stays as is)
Standard (certain day 5 games, other stuff 3-6month behind?)
Ultimate ( everything day 5)

That’s my guess. Probably standard becomes £12 And ultimate £15.

360 to have alongside ps3, as these came out at the age where I was working so had the income.

Had two 360 with rrod. So skipped xbone, as they had lost my goodwill. Came back with the S as it was a great price and could catch up with games I’ve missed.

I started up unicorn overlord last night so dive into that properly I think

I want to play it on release.

But how can I be hyped for something that is 18months away, and basically seen nothing on it?

All just so even if it arrives on your doorstep a day or 2 early you can’t play it

Has anyone been round to Phil’s gaff to do a welfare check? Guys been mighty quiet recently.

Not even bigging up the upcoming release?!

Seems very strange as you often read Xbox players don’t want/ like the Sony narrative experience games.

So sounds like they have an uphill task!

I hope that this works well for those who need it so they can enjoy more gaming!

For months MS has been saying sales are going to slow, along with reported stalling of subscription.

My question always comes back to, why aren’t people picking Xbox? It has the cheaper console, it has GPU, it has the most powerful console, it has some of the biggest franchises.

So why aren’t people buying it? Especially in advance for CoD etc. it’s not just the reason of well the joneses have a ps5 so we should. There has to be more to it.

I tried it for like 10hrs. It’s not bad, but as others have said, I jumped in late and it’s overwhelming just too much stuff going on.

But then I love FF way more and still can’t find the time to do ff14 as there is just so much to it now.

MMO is just hard to keep up with if you start late.

I don’t see the point?! Most will have completed it by the 23rd?!

To answer your tagline, the correct answer is , it’s horrible.

@HonestHick see I’m the other way round. I loved perfect dark on the n64, but I worry now it’s going to get a little lost on Xbox, just due to the sheer amount of shooting games available, plus the entire CoD franchise most likely being available by then.

Hope I’m wrong, multiplayer 4screen used to be a blast

Wasn’t for me. It was just a little too slow.

But it looked great, atmosphere was too.

I’m sure the sequel will look stunning and I hope those that play it enjoy it.

Didn’t score it, as no option for tried it but not for me.

@andrewsqual this site already has its ep13 so wasn’t required here.

Although if his partner has had their baby, congrats!

@NEStalgia I believe there is a place for subscription. I just don’t think it’s fully settled where it needs to be… currently I think EA might be doing it best, where they hit 6months later.

Would GP work better if it was smaller? Just the MS owned stuff, no 3rd party?

I fully get that yes per casual they may get more money, but that is also offset by the ‘gamer’ using points/cheap codes etc.

For me that I’m most interested in, is what comes under the costs header for GP? Is stuff like starfield a development costs part of it? Is the hosting of cloud/servers etc? Or do MS hide these costs in other departments?

@Krzzystuff saying something isn’t law. Unless it’s signed on a contract somewhere there’s not much you can do about it.

MS would argue that the situation has changed etc etv

@NEStalgia GP might be profitable as is, but that is probably because a large % of costs will be being absorbed elsewhere.

@NEStalgia beat me to it. I thought the silence is the strangest point. Every other time he has been front and centre.

@Sifi you should go for a job in Microsoft PR. You would be excellent at it.

Every single comment is turned into well Sony is doing this or that.

Sadly if the only argument you have is deflection, then it more often means the company you are trying to defend is cocking up.

It’s a tough one. GP has its place and its great value most months.

But even with day 1 things, even a well awaited day 1 huge Bethesda release, console exclusive, still didn’t shift the needle then MS must be looking at it and think what will?

Sure CoD may be ‘free’ on GP compared to £70 on PS, but casuals aren’t going to run out to buy a series X and GP, if they already own a PS. ( yes sure you can access CoD on whatever plays it, but they would ant like for like)

First one was on there, so it’s a pretty logical choice, as it’s another type of game that won’t have people flocking to GP.

So Sony shoot themselves in the foot last weekend, this week MS seem to be shooting themselves in both feet.

It’s taken a few years to go through Bethesda, so you would assume there is a good chance parts of ABK could be shuttered.

Truthfully did anyone think it would stay at this price?

Everyone knew it was a loss leader funded by MS deep pockets.

But as other articles show, subscriptions (MS/Sony) aren’t growing, so of course they will increase prices. It’s literally copying the playbook of Netflix.

Fingers crossed if true, it’s a small price rise.

@Dydreamr this information shows that it’s affecting both PS/MS it’s not just MS.

But there has been news out of Xbox itself where Phil didn’t receive his bonus for GP as it hadn’t hit the targets (frankly they were unacheivable)

@Trmn8r they don’t store up all the bad news wait for MS/Sony to do something stupid then think let’s add to it!

You need to put the tinfoil hat away.

This is readily available data, it’s data that many of us have been aware about.

@Ricky-Spanish it’s still great value currently?

@Phil-Spencer-Gate yet it hasn’t increased by those numbers as we all know. They just bundled in the gold subscribers.

Everyone said starfield would boost it. MS even said it added the most in a day ever. Price has gone up in the last year, loopholed have closed, rewards less generous. Yet in the US, in the last year revenue has increased 1% in subscriptions.

So I’ll use the available data and not the made up maths.

@Phil-Spencer-Gate read all the data.

Subscription hasn’t grown in a couple of years. Even with AAA day 1 offerings people still aren’t joining up. Starfield didn’t even boost it. (USA is up 1% YoY).

Something is going to give somewhere.

@lacerz it’s probably that the games aren’t getting more people to sign up/stay signed up.

Most information has shown that GP (and Plus) has been relatively flat in terms of growth recently.

2million is great for that kind of game.

MS probably should have given the studio closures a day before revealing more stuff, as no matter what it is it wouldn’t be received well.

It’s MS, they didn’t become a multi trillion dollar company by being our friends. It was obvious to anyone that included Phil ‘Gamer’ Spencer. He is as much a suit as the rest, except wears a T-shirt.

It will move more towards Microsoft gaming or w/e. Hence the recent foray into multi platform. Also Microsoft upper management will have noticed that Xbox revenue has dropped (once you strip ABK) YoY. Xbox are missing their (frankly ludicrous) GP targets. To name but a few, so of course they will look at what they can change.

But we will still have Xbox games etc. they ain’t going anywhere

Good to see people defend it. Sometimes when a company does something ***** they can be criticised.

I hope those affected find work as some of these guys/girls are clearly talented.

I feel sorry for anyone who gets scammed into these deals. Those who may not be as wise to deals on the store etc

@Titntin mate I wouldn’t waste your time!

Everything MS will be defended!

Seems very strange after picking it as one of the ‘test’ games to go multi platform and appeared to be doing well.

It’s a shame while the music in the game was not to my personal taste I could still appreciate how good hifi rush was, one of the best MS has released in recent years.

I hope those affected can find a happy home!

On the games it works on its great, one of the best things this gen.

There’s just too many games that it doesn’t work on which is a shame.

They have to be, because 3 of the 4 major releases for this year won’t have arrived. Plus Starfield expansion.

I don’t think anyone is concerned that it won’t be visually stunning.

More people have worries about the game play

Probably true as the ps5 version has been dropped to £15 physical, usually when that starts happening it hits one of the subs.

Going to
Show shattered space, update for forza, the previously announced games with dates, probably more elder scrolls online. CoD, with the big games of this year to still be released, I don’t think we will see much for next year.

I’ll probably jump back in at a later date, once most of the QoL features are finished.

Have it a good 70hrs on my first play through. But the more I played the more disappointing it became. Was a steady 7-8/10. If I had paid £70 I wouldn’t have felt dissatisfied. But I’m not in a rush to jump back in either, never once felt like I’ve missed playing it. Unlike say Skyrim or fallout or FF.

You would have thought they would have had plans already, considering the TV show. It would have made commercial sense and success.

But for the love of god don’t rush it out.

@GeeEssEff it’s not free. But people keep trying to claim that it is.

Nobody ever says Netflix or Amazon or whatever is free.

@BAMozzy just forgetting that you need to buy the console/PC to compare huh? And the fact that £60 to buy essential also comes with many free (as you call them) games.

If you own a PlayStation, you already most likely will have essential. You are not going to go out and buy an Xbox (£200-£500) or a PC and a GPU subscription (£150per year) if you know the game is going to hit PlayStation.

Currently it’s worth having both consoles to get everything, but if (and it’s still a big if) games go to PlayStation there’s less desire to go out and buy an Xbox. Why not have the PlayStation, get the PS exclusives and then the Xbox games at a later date. Or a pc and have both.

You may be able to play GPU on any device but 90% of the time it’s on a terrible version, lag and so on. And a Rog ally is what £500?