Didn't they just show that 91% of games on Xbox are purchased digitally? Clearly they aren't going to lose money by making a shall batch of physical versions. Everything is going all digital for better or worse so get used to it folks.
I hope they actually ate working on one that would allow for local offline play for gamepass titles. I'm worried that they will just let third parties make devices and they will hope that gamepass works on them. They tend to make dumb decisions so it's always a threat that they will score an own goal when presented with an open net.
There's no need for a pro version. I'm okay waiting for the handheld and hopefully a new console in 2026? They will have to really entice me though as i have the X and see no need to jump into something new right away. I see myself waiting at least a year before upgrading, let them work the production bugs out.
If the next Xbox is supposed to be basically a PC like has been rumoured it makes sense, try on PC because it's basically all going to be PC going forward. If not it's just another bad look that really makes it seem like console is an afterthought.
@NeutronBomb it's also the latest title that they are releasing paid content for. They want money end of the day so getting people playing old cod without any MTX won't be helpful.
I'm sure they will come eventually next year, May-June in guessing.
@BRT15 they will be coming eventually. Guaranteed they used MW3 cuz it new and because it has the cod launcher that they had to test before the new one comes out. Also they will be drop feeding the games into gamepass, don't think they blow the load like they did with Bethesda ever again.
They need to market this properly....I have not doubt they won't though. I would imagine that someone in ABK can do it justice....they didn't let go of their marketing did they?
This will hopefully yield some great games. Blizzard IP have so much awesome lore that they can make into great experiences. Really looking forward to seeing what they announce in a year or two, I imagine it's going to be a shorter development time so we won't be waiting 4+ year's for these.
I mean this isn't unexpected. They are spending more money marketing that you don't need an Xbox to play the games then they are trying to sell the consoles...so it's a success? I've just been in the Xbox ecosystem since the launch of the series X and they definitely are absolutely the worst company in the world when it comes to marketing something. I'm enjoying gamepass and the system and controller is awesome....but you guys suck ass at marketing lol.
I have Ultimate stacked for almost 3 years so I'll keep playing until it runs out. It's really crappy that on PC it's cheaper than console, should be the same. I'm curious to see what the wait time is for new games coming to the service however, I've really never played games day one because they're never actually ready on day one. I do like having cloud and EA play though. I have over 3 years with whatever time I get to build up through rewards points to make a decision. Really would be easier to do this increase for them AFTER they actually show a steady release of big games each quarter. We've never been there yet, looking like we will be going forward....but it hasn't actually happened yet.
It's clearly less lol. Job, kids, kids activities....if I could go back and have gamepass it would be amazing. I don't want to be a kid in today's world....I want to go back to the 90's and just bring gamepass with me.
There's always been something wrong with the marketing of Xbox. Not saying it's this guy at all, I'm wondering if it's a Microsoft issue where they just don't have any budget for marketing so they are doing a great job with the scraps afforded to them? I can't see how you could keep people in their roles otherwise....cuz as everyone is saying.... Xbox marketing is abysmal
My day one series X is still working perfectly so no need to upgrade. Although with all the games coming out and especially CoD being massive I'll likely be looking into an expansion card. They're way too expensive still in my eyes so I'll be looking for a black Friday deal hopefully.
This game looks like it's going to be awesome. I vaguely recall playing the first one on my younger brother's Xbox back in the day but I've really never gone far in it....so I'll say I've never played one. I'll have to play through them as folks are speculating that the sister of someone from the first games is the evil villain? Also the Don't care if we play as the female on the game, seen some arguing that they should have multiple characters to choose from.
That's a lot of stuff right there. Asides from the obvious big names I'm looking forward to Mixtape. I like those odd games, never would have known it's my jam if not for gamepass. South of Midnight looks fantastic as well and @FarmDog08 I agree that Expedition 33 looked really good and intriguing.
@AlwaysPlaying I won't lie I did the same thing when I was writing his name. Sorry to all the Geoffreys out there....but you're likely a turd. 100% of Geoffreys I know are so it's scientific.
Gonna watch it after the fact. Turning all notifications off and not looking at any news that day. Once kids are in bed I'll turn it on and enjoy the show. For all the rakes they just love to step on, Xbox sure puts on the best showcases.
Is this a f2p game? I think that the day's of paid multiplayer games are kinda dead unless you're CoD. The Sinister 6, Black Hole time sucking games kinda force you to do that. It's actually crazy what impact fortnite has had on the industry, it's like social media....you can't go back now even though it might be better if we could
Infinite is still the best multiplayer shooter experience in my eyes. Still play it weekly with my buddies. Mishandled at an epic level....but a fantastic multiplayer from day 1.
There's been numerous reports of infighting at MS over Xbox and what they need to do. We had people leak out all the potential games on the table to go to other platforms and now this. I believe that it is now Microsoft gaming, no longer Xbox, and as they've shown historically MS isn't worried about doing a 180 on a dime if excel shows it's good for the bottom line. That's what's happening now. I wouldn't be shocked if Phil is gone by the end of the year.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner saying something to sell a product and it not being true is against the law however. That would be the FTC's wet dream if they actually did that.
I'm no legal expert but isn't it an issue when you say all first party will be day n date, go on record to say CoD will be in gamepass day n date....and then don't put it in the service day n date? There's definitely a lawsuit coming and it's going to kill the brand. I can't see this actually happening, I'm expecting that the new CoD will be in gamepass and it's going to be announced in June as such.
But typical Xbox, horrible communication resulting in negative speculation and rumours that will run rampant and further erode the brand until June.
I'm definitely not buying anything on the platform until i see what their actual plans are. Have gamepass for over 2.5 year's stacked so I'll ride it out until then and make a decision on where to spend my money when I have to spend it next.
Really crazy how fast changes are being made since they made more revenue than windows. Unfortunately the kid at the side table who no one cared about is centre of attention now with corpos and shareholders looking for cash in every corner. ABK definitely a poisoned chalice in the end.
@JoakimZ they only way that games will launch completed again is if people stop pre-ordering and just don't play it on gamepass or buy it at launch if it's broken.
Money is all that talks so if they launch it and it sells then they don't have to change anything clearly.
Don't be a beta tester, wait 6 months and buy it a half price with twice the features.
I just rolled credits on Ravenlok and really enjoyed it. It a nice short game and is kids version of a soul's like? Either way it was enjoyable and if you have time to finish it before it leaves I'd say give it a go.
Also this was the first time that I saw them tell you that you can buy the game at a discount before it leaves GP right when you boot it up.
I hate warzone but don't mind the OG CoD multiplayer. And with gamepass me n the buds all have access so we'll definitely give CoD a go. I like campaigns as well so likely will try and play through the series
I ain't got a lot of time to game so shorter games I can actually finish. There are a lot of games that I haven't even tried just because I really don't know if I can commit my time to finishing them. So Hellblade being 8 hours is just perfect.
It's gotta be a modern CoD and they really need to actually try and market gamepass and the fact that CoD is in there of they are actually trying to make this a success. What's the point otherwise. The casual consumer that they are so desperately trying to get doesn't know about gamepass....it needs actual marketing... I know that it's crazy but it's true.
@Blaa im pretty sure this is the holiday announcement. The handheld is supposed to be part of the 2026 next Gen launch based on all the discussions on podcasts.
Maybe that new controller is announced for the holidays as well.
They really need to make the next Gen a PC basically without any of the PC hassle. That way a dev just has to make a PC game and it can work on the "console". Eliminate the extra time of making an Xbox port. The worry without that option is that if they do go semi/full third party they will lose support of more and more titles because there will be less of a need to own Xbox hardware to play their games. There isn't any example in history of a third party publisher with it's own console....I don't see how it can work without it being able to play PC games and requiring an Xbox port.
I'm not techy so can someone explain why the next Xbox can't just be like a PC from a developer standpoint? I'm really enjoying Xbox and gamepass but it's looking like ABK was a poisoned chalice. Now that gaming is a key pillar in the financials vs a footnote shareholders and the board care about it and are likely the cause of the push to move software to other platforms. The messaging is crap as usual and it's hard to justify spending money on digital games when you might not be on the platform in the future. I don't like playing on PC so just give me something that I can plug and play into a TV and I'm good... just make sure it has developers support.
Hence the "can it just run PC games but not have the hassle of a PC ?" question. That way it's a non issue as PC will always have support.
There's been a lot of talk about them having another gen starting in 2026 so maybe it's true. I am curious about the prospect of it being a dockable thing like the switch. Either way let's get that fancy new controller out with them anti drift sticks.
Gamepass, controller, rewards points, cloud saves and cloud gaming. It's very convenient and for someone who can't always play infront of the tv having the ability to play on a phone or laptop if needed and just carry on with the progression is really great.
Also tbaggin mofos in Infinite is always a good time lol. Fiesta or Husky raid is just pure mayham.
Oh also how fast and quiet the series x is and quick resume.... beautiful stuff.
@GuyinPA75 if it's actually the full playable game on the physical disk/cartridge then yes it's definitely the best way to go. But in reality a ton of physical media is just wasted resources for something that you're going to have to download digitally anyways because it's not actually on the disk/cartridge.
I expect limited run physical copies will be a niche market for collectors and that's all. Not sure how you could stop that change from happening as the average consumer doesn't care about having a physical copy so neither do the publishers.
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Re: Croc's Upcoming Remaster Is Getting A Physical Version, But Not On Xbox
Didn't they just show that 91% of games on Xbox are purchased digitally? Clearly they aren't going to lose money by making a shall batch of physical versions. Everything is going all digital for better or worse so get used to it folks.
Re: Thrustmaster's New 'HEART' Xbox Controller Is Focused On Eliminating Stick Drift Entirely
Next gen everything better be hall effect sticks
Re: Xbox Has Begun Including Handhelds In Promotional Images
I hope they actually ate working on one that would allow for local offline play for gamepass titles. I'm worried that they will just let third parties make devices and they will hope that gamepass works on them. They tend to make dumb decisions so it's always a threat that they will score an own goal when presented with an open net.
Re: Poll: How Much Would You Pay For An Xbox Series X Pro?
There's no need for a pro version. I'm okay waiting for the handheld and hopefully a new console in 2026? They will have to really entice me though as i have the X and see no need to jump into something new right away. I see myself waiting at least a year before upgrading, let them work the production bugs out.
Re: Towerborne Dev Explains Why Early Access Is Debuting On Steam Rather Than Xbox
If the next Xbox is supposed to be basically a PC like has been rumoured it makes sense, try on PC because it's basically all going to be PC going forward. If not it's just another bad look that really makes it seem like console is an afterthought.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants To 'Recreate History' When Bringing Call Of Duty To Game Pass
@NeutronBomb it's also the latest title that they are releasing paid content for. They want money end of the day so getting people playing old cod without any MTX won't be helpful.
I'm sure they will come eventually next year, May-June in guessing.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants To 'Recreate History' When Bringing Call Of Duty To Game Pass
@BRT15 they will be coming eventually. Guaranteed they used MW3 cuz it new and because it has the cod launcher that they had to test before the new one comes out. Also they will be drop feeding the games into gamepass, don't think they blow the load like they did with Bethesda ever again.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants To 'Recreate History' When Bringing Call Of Duty To Game Pass
They need to market this properly....I have not doubt they won't though. I would imagine that someone in ABK can do it justice....they didn't let go of their marketing did they?
Re: Borderlands Described As 'Worst Movie Of The Year' By Harshest Critics
To be fair you could tell it's trash by the trailers so not sure this is surprising anyone
Re: Report: Xbox Has Formed A New Team To Build 'Games Based On Existing IP' At Blizzard
This will hopefully yield some great games. Blizzard IP have so much awesome lore that they can make into great experiences. Really looking forward to seeing what they announce in a year or two, I imagine it's going to be a shorter development time so we won't be waiting 4+ year's for these.
Re: Xbox Console Sales Struggling As Hardware Revenue Nosedives At Microsoft
I mean this isn't unexpected. They are spending more money marketing that you don't need an Xbox to play the games then they are trying to sell the consoles...so it's a success?
I've just been in the Xbox ecosystem since the launch of the series X and they definitely are absolutely the worst company in the world when it comes to marketing something. I'm enjoying gamepass and the system and controller is awesome....but you guys suck ass at marketing lol.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
@NEStalgia I'll have you know that they are clearly going.....that way....duh.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
I have Ultimate stacked for almost 3 years so I'll keep playing until it runs out. It's really crappy that on PC it's cheaper than console, should be the same. I'm curious to see what the wait time is for new games coming to the service however, I've really never played games day one because they're never actually ready on day one. I do like having cloud and EA play though. I have over 3 years with whatever time I get to build up through rewards points to make a decision. Really would be easier to do this increase for them AFTER they actually show a steady release of big games each quarter. We've never been there yet, looking like we will be going forward....but it hasn't actually happened yet.
Re: Three Activision Blizzard Titles Expected To Join Xbox Game Pass 'Very Soon'
I'm here for all of this. My kids will enjoy them as well so that's always a big bonus
Re: Talking Point: Has Your Gaming Slowed Down As You've Got Older?
It's clearly less lol. Job, kids, kids activities....if I could go back and have gamepass it would be amazing. I don't want to be a kid in today's world....I want to go back to the 90's and just bring gamepass with me.
Re: These Eight Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (July 3-16)
Journey to the savage planet is great, played it the first time it was in gamepass. Kids will be happy about the Nickelodeon brawl.
Re: Xbox's Chief Marketing Officer Is Leaving Microsoft To Join Roblox
There's always been something wrong with the marketing of Xbox. Not saying it's this guy at all, I'm wondering if it's a Microsoft issue where they just don't have any budget for marketing so they are doing a great job with the scraps afforded to them? I can't see how you could keep people in their roles otherwise....cuz as everyone is saying.... Xbox marketing is abysmal
Re: Talking Point: Are You Interested In Any Of The New Xbox Series X|S Models?
My day one series X is still working perfectly so no need to upgrade. Although with all the games coming out and especially CoD being massive I'll likely be looking into an expansion card. They're way too expensive still in my eyes so I'll be looking for a black Friday deal hopefully.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Feeling About Fable After The Xbox Games Showcase?
This game looks like it's going to be awesome. I vaguely recall playing the first one on my younger brother's Xbox back in the day but I've really never gone far in it....so I'll say I've never played one. I'll have to play through them as folks are speculating that the sister of someone from the first games is the evil villain? Also the Don't care if we play as the female on the game, seen some arguing that they should have multiple characters to choose from.
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2025: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
That's a lot of stuff right there. Asides from the obvious big names I'm looking forward to Mixtape. I like those odd games, never would have known it's my jam if not for gamepass. South of Midnight looks fantastic as well and @FarmDog08 I agree that Expedition 33 looked really good and intriguing.
Re: Xbox Apparently Could Have Shown Much More At This Year's Showcase
@AlwaysPlaying I won't lie I did the same thing when I was writing his name. Sorry to all the Geoffreys out there....but you're likely a turd. 100% of Geoffreys I know are so it's scientific.
Re: Xbox Apparently Could Have Shown Much More At This Year's Showcase
Show was fantastic and already had almost too many games. Definitely hold off until the Jan show and don't give Geoffrey anything, guys a turd.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2024?
Still the best showcase around, from the format to the actual games shown.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Plans For The Xbox Games Showcase 2024?
Gonna watch it after the fact. Turning all notifications off and not looking at any news that day. Once kids are in bed I'll turn it on and enjoy the show. For all the rakes they just love to step on, Xbox sure puts on the best showcases.
Enjoy everyone!
Re: Interview: Behind The Scenes Of Hypercharge Unboxed's 'Exciting' And 'Challenging' Xbox Journey
Is this a f2p game? I think that the day's of paid multiplayer games are kinda dead unless you're CoD. The Sinister 6, Black Hole time sucking games kinda force you to do that. It's actually crazy what impact fortnite has had on the industry, it's like social media....you can't go back now even though it might be better if we could
Re: Xbox's New 'This Is Halo' Trailer Summarises 343's Journey With Halo Infinite
Infinite is still the best multiplayer shooter experience in my eyes. Still play it weekly with my buddies. Mishandled at an epic level....but a fantastic multiplayer from day 1.
Re: Xbox Veteran Suggests Recent Decisions 'Probably Aren't Being Made By Phil Spencer'
There's been numerous reports of infighting at MS over Xbox and what they need to do. We had people leak out all the potential games on the table to go to other platforms and now this. I believe that it is now Microsoft gaming, no longer Xbox, and as they've shown historically MS isn't worried about doing a 180 on a dime if excel shows it's good for the bottom line. That's what's happening now. I wouldn't be shocked if Phil is gone by the end of the year.
Re: Former Microsoft Exec Gives 'Two Reasons' Why Xbox Closed Bethesda Teams
@PsBoxSwitchOwner saying something to sell a product and it not being true is against the law however. That would be the FTC's wet dream if they actually did that.
Re: Former Microsoft Exec Gives 'Two Reasons' Why Xbox Closed Bethesda Teams
I'm no legal expert but isn't it an issue when you say all first party will be day n date, go on record to say CoD will be in gamepass day n date....and then don't put it in the service day n date? There's definitely a lawsuit coming and it's going to kill the brand. I can't see this actually happening, I'm expecting that the new CoD will be in gamepass and it's going to be announced in June as such.
But typical Xbox, horrible communication resulting in negative speculation and rumours that will run rampant and further erode the brand until June.
I'm definitely not buying anything on the platform until i see what their actual plans are. Have gamepass for over 2.5 year's stacked so I'll ride it out until then and make a decision on where to spend my money when I have to spend it next.
Re: Xbox Reportedly Considering Game Pass Price Hike To Accommodate Call Of Duty
Really crazy how fast changes are being made since they made more revenue than windows. Unfortunately the kid at the side table who no one cared about is centre of attention now with corpos and shareholders looking for cash in every corner. ABK definitely a poisoned chalice in the end.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Playing Through Starfield Again At 60FPS On Xbox Series X?
Still haven't tried it yet so it was ever do get around it will clearly be the ultimate edition at that point
Re: Starfield Is Getting A 60FPS Performance Mode On Xbox Series X
@JoakimZ they only way that games will launch completed again is if people stop pre-ordering and just don't play it on gamepass or buy it at launch if it's broken.
Money is all that talks so if they launch it and it sells then they don't have to change anything clearly.
Don't be a beta tester, wait 6 months and buy it a half price with twice the features.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2024 Confirmed For June, First Details Revealed
Xbox showcases are the only one's i actually watch so really looking forward to seeing what's coming up for gamepass.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Made Profit Despite Huge Critical Success
They aren't on steam right? That's why.
Re: Reminder: Six Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass Early Next Week
I just rolled credits on Ravenlok and really enjoyed it. It a nice short game and is kids version of a soul's like? Either way it was enjoyable and if you have time to finish it before it leaves I'd say give it a go.
Also this was the first time that I saw them tell you that you can buy the game at a discount before it leaves GP right when you boot it up.
Re: Xbox Could Be 'Gearing Up' For Call Of Duty Back Catalogue Announcement
I hate warzone but don't mind the OG CoD multiplayer. And with gamepass me n the buds all have access so we'll definitely give CoD a go. I like campaigns as well so likely will try and play through the series
Re: Talking Point: Do You Prefer Shorter Or Longer Games In General?
I ain't got a lot of time to game so shorter games I can actually finish. There are a lot of games that I haven't even tried just because I really don't know if I can commit my time to finishing them. So Hellblade being 8 hours is just perfect.
Re: Which Activision Blizzard Game Do You Want Next On Xbox Game Pass?
It's gotta be a modern CoD and they really need to actually try and market gamepass and the fact that CoD is in there of they are actually trying to make this a success. What's the point otherwise. The casual consumer that they are so desperately trying to get doesn't know about gamepass....it needs actual marketing... I know that it's crazy but it's true.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, Are You Still Enjoying Halo Infinite In 2024?
It's still the go to game with my buddies and the multiplayer is absolutely fantastic. The fiesta modes and husky raid are just a good time.
Re: Call Of Duty: MW3's Next Update Contains Absolutely Tons Of New Content
Once this is in gamepass I'll definitely play it with my buddies. I like the old school CoD multiplayer vs the Warzone battle royale.
Re: Leaked Images Reveal 'First Look' At White, All-Digital Xbox Series X
@Blaa im pretty sure this is the holiday announcement. The handheld is supposed to be part of the 2026 next Gen launch based on all the discussions on podcasts.
Maybe that new controller is announced for the holidays as well.
Re: Phil Spencer On Porting Exclusives: 'Every Decision We Make Is To Make Xbox Stronger'
They really need to make the next Gen a PC basically without any of the PC hassle. That way a dev just has to make a PC game and it can work on the "console". Eliminate the extra time of making an Xbox port. The worry without that option is that if they do go semi/full third party they will lose support of more and more titles because there will be less of a need to own Xbox hardware to play their games. There isn't any example in history of a third party publisher with it's own console....I don't see how it can work without it being able to play PC games and requiring an Xbox port.
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
@Grumblevolcano I'd be completely happy with that kind of future.
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
@Weapon_Wheel I just need plug n play. That handheld option also is enticing if you can play gamepass natively on the device without a network.
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
I'm not techy so can someone explain why the next Xbox can't just be like a PC from a developer standpoint? I'm really enjoying Xbox and gamepass but it's looking like ABK was a poisoned chalice. Now that gaming is a key pillar in the financials vs a footnote shareholders and the board care about it and are likely the cause of the push to move software to other platforms. The messaging is crap as usual and it's hard to justify spending money on digital games when you might not be on the platform in the future. I don't like playing on PC so just give me something that I can plug and play into a TV and I'm good... just make sure it has developers support.
Hence the "can it just run PC games but not have the hassle of a PC ?" question. That way it's a non issue as PC will always have support.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Is Apparently Prototyping Xbox Handheld Hardware
I'm definitely interested in the product. If I can play gamepass games locally without a need for a network connection I'm definitely down.
Re: New Xbox Dev Kit Reportedly Certified In South Korea
There's been a lot of talk about them having another gen starting in 2026 so maybe it's true. I am curious about the prospect of it being a dockable thing like the switch. Either way let's get that fancy new controller out with them anti drift sticks.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Thing About Xbox Right Now?
Gamepass, controller, rewards points, cloud saves and cloud gaming. It's very convenient and for someone who can't always play infront of the tv having the ability to play on a phone or laptop if needed and just carry on with the progression is really great.
Also tbaggin mofos in Infinite is always a good time lol. Fiesta or Husky raid is just pure mayham.
Oh also how fast and quiet the series x is and quick resume.... beautiful stuff.
Re: Starfield To PS5 Rumours Played Down Following Recent Xbox First-Party Ports
Any rumours as to when that ABK catalog will be in gamepass? I know Diablo is coming in March but what about the rest of the stuff?
Re: 10 Xbox Games Are Shutting Down Their Servers In March 2024
@GuyinPA75 if it's actually the full playable game on the physical disk/cartridge then yes it's definitely the best way to go. But in reality a ton of physical media is just wasted resources for something that you're going to have to download digitally anyways because it's not actually on the disk/cartridge.
I expect limited run physical copies will be a niche market for collectors and that's all. Not sure how you could stop that change from happening as the average consumer doesn't care about having a physical copy so neither do the publishers.