Well, it probably will be revoked, now that you've reported on it. Stuff like this should be kept on the down-low. If you know, you know. But now everybody knows, including MS.
Jade Empire was an ok game. People love to wear the rose colored glasses for this one. I was riding high off of KOTOR and reserved the Special Edition of Jade Empire. Bought it day one, and beat it in a few evenings, and was extremely disappointed. The game wasn't nearly as good as KOTOR, and simultaneously was never going to have the mass appeal that a Star Wars game did. They have no one to blame but their own ridiculous expectations.
I already had a GameCube and a PS2, and I was skeptical of Microsoft having a console. Picked one up in '03 because I was bored with what the CG and PS2 had at the time. GameStop was having a B2G1 on used games so I picked up RTCW, DOA3, and Morrowind. Morrowind blew me away and shortly after that KOTOR released and I was all in after that.
The story for RE0 could easily be folded into a remake of RE. It's not the most complicated plot out there, and a lot of it could be condensed. Hell, you could eliminate Billy's character completely, seeing how he has never re-surfaced in any form since. Just have a 2 or 3 hour prologue with Rebecca and call it a day.
I stopped spending the money on first party controllers after my third one got stick drift. Not sure what MS changed, but their controllers used to be solid AF. I still have X360 controllers that are 20 years old that work like a dream.
I started buying PowerA controllers for $25 and will continue to do so until MS starts putting hall effect sticks in their controllers.
Migration takes so f'ing long though... Maybe I'm just better off with my ISP than most others, but it's actually quicker for me to just re-download stuff. (But I do get that others have data caps, which I do not.)
Games were $50 and $60 back in the 90's when the game industry was so niche that selling 500k copies was a success and selling a million was ****ing amazing. Fast-forward to today when game companies whine that they can't make a profit when the market is literally hundreds of millions of people and they don't even need to print a physical product.
I would be more surprised that MS/Bethesda would be out-sourcing their Oblivion remake to a third party chinese developer. Mainly because they don't need to.
Still waiting for like, 90% of the tracks I enjoyed from previous Forzas, so no. No it hasn't.
Still waiting for Mount Panorama, Fujimi Kaido, Burnese Alps, New York, Monsterrat, Prague, Miami, Rio de Janeiro, Amalfi Cost, Dubai, etc.
I would have loved to see some throwbacks like the Pacific Shipyard or the Tokyo Circuit from the original Forza. Or, i dunno, maybe some NEW locations we've never seen before?
As it is, all they have put in are licensed tracks that you can get in any other racing game. They haven't included anything to set it apart. I have always preferred FM over GT, but GT7 had a much, much better variety of tracks.
Turn 10 dropped the ball in the creativity department this time around.
A few vocal holdouts. They'll either need to get with the program or just be forever angry.
Here's the reality. I grew up with physical games. They do not last forever. Disc drives fail. The discs themselves degrade over time. Having a physical copy might mean you "own" the game, but it don't mean you'll still be playing it when you're 90.
Cartridges last longer but aside from Nintendo I can't see them ever being a viable format again. Even the Switch's days are number, in my opinion.
Yeah, de-listing so they can re-list as a new package. Nothing is lost, these games are readily available in one form or another. In fact I think I have all of them on a Switch cartridge.
EDIT: Oh, hah. That's the one they're de-listing. I thought it was the old ones from the 360. Carry on, nothing to see here lol.
I really want to stay interested in FM but man they gotta start putting in some of the more scenic creative tracks. These flat licensed tracks all start to look the same after a while. FM has had some truly fantastic tracks in the past and I'm still waiting for them to get added to this one.
Unless MS directly addresses employees on a certain company direction, that info is usually on a need to know basis. Most employees aren't in that pay grade. Such is life as an employee of a mega corporation.
Also, MS as a company is about as leaky a boat as it gets. If the higher ups aren't telling them anything, thank the "sources."
My fondest memory is that I was only 23 with my whole life ahead of me, before the world crushed my spirits and left me the broken husk of a human being I am today.
@InvaderFromSpace GOG has the original Legacy of Kain and is on sale right now for less than $2. In fact, it has all the LoK games except for the first Soul Reaver.
However, none of the games services have Soul Reaver. Square Enix pulled it from stores for whatever reason a while back, then sold them off to Embracer. So it's essentially just been in limbo on PC until somebody at Eidos/Crystal Dynamics or Embracer decides to re-release it.
That's not a simple question; When I was younger, games were simpler and shorter. They didn't demand your time nearly as much. On top of that, when I was a teen, pagers were barely even a thing-- no internet, no cell phones. So if you wanted to socialize, you had to actually GO OUT AND SOCIALIZE. So I wasn't home as much. Gaming was done in small chunks here or there. Sometimes we'd get some friends together and have some NBA Jam tournaments or Bomberman 2 sessions. Maybe rotate through on some Street Fighter 2. But it was always just "something else to do" and never a core focus.
I have more disposable income as an adult, so I can afford to splurge whenever the Steam or Console sales come around. My backlog is gigantic, but honestly, yeah my gaming has slowed down considerably, in the sense that I don't beat games as quickly as I used to. I game in spurts of an hour or so, instead of the all-night marathons I did in my teens/early 20's once the Playstation and Xbox rolled around.
I have challenges in my job and life every day, I'm not looking to be challenged in my gaming. That's my wind-down. My relaxation. So while I do enjoy Souls-likes and multiplayer shooters, I rarely finish them or put significant time into them. And if there's an Easy or Story mode to an RPG, I'll choose it every time.
He already didn't do anything for MS and now he's heading over to a game that literally sells itself. Bro living life on Easy mode. How do I get this job?
Man I really hope this reverses that absolutely dismal job MS has been doing in the marketing dept. for the past few years.
@Fenbops I don't believe that for a bit. He's been around a long time and he's been pretty genuine. And that has come back to bite him in the ass a few times. Everybody hangs on every little phrase he says. Everybody takes their own interpretation of his words. The dude has to clarity and re-clarify and say things as bluntly and plainly as possible, so that there's no room for interpretation. The ABK acquisition put a spotlight on that. So yeah, Phil has become pretty corporate in his PR fluff speak. But you can't blame him for that. You can blame the media and us, though.
If there are any games that deserve to be remade, it's Dragon Quest 1 & 2. I've recently started playing DQ1 on NES and man it's rough. Not even talking graphics, but weird difficulty spikes and outdated, hardcore gameplay mechanices (like having to travel all the way back to the castle to save your game, and losing half your gold if you die because of said weird difficulty spikes).
I realize they got "remasters" of sorts with new artwork on Switch, but from what I understand they kept the core gameplay mechanics and they're just as brutal as the originals.
I come from a day when we used to have binders full of 5.25 floppy disks. Downloading a 5 MB file meant tying up your phone line for three hours.
Today, I have about 30 TB of storage spread over several hard drives on my PC and a 1 TB expansion card with a 5 TB external hooked up to my Xbox. I pay for fiber and can download a 100 GB file in about an hour. Sometimes less.
I will download any damn thing I can get my hands on. It's wonderful.
The generation had some great games, but there was also a ton of innovation and experimentation at this time. The 360/PS3 era was a time when there were a lot of "firsts" on console.
True wireless controllers, that could turn the system off and on. Integrated party chat that allowed anyone to talk to anyone else no matter what they were playing. Gamerscore and trophies were introduced in this gen. An integrated, unifying store that you could browse. This generation also introduced digital downloads, disc installs, custom profiles and avatars. It also saw Xbox experiment with several different dashboard styles, some great... some not so great.
We got to play around with the Xbox Vision Cam and Eye Toy, putting photos of ourselves on our driver licenses for Burnout Paradise and mapping our face to our character in Rainbow Six Vegas and NBA 2K.
We got the Kinect and the PS Move.. and while they weren't as successful as we would have liked (it was commercially successful for MS) it was still an experiment in pushing gaming forward.
Xbox Live became much more stable, netcode got more competent and people's internet overall was much better by the time the Xbox 360 rolled around. Games were playable now. I loved the early days of XBL but let's be honest, most of them were a laggy mess.
Social media and digital streaming were really starting to become a thing at this time as well, and while that's not directly related to Xbox or Playstation, it did impact our enjoyment of the generation, as our social reach was beginning to expand and we were communicating in new ways.
No generation will ever be as memorable as that one, because for the most part, technology has gotten faster and better, but innovation has stagnated. We are at a bit of a impasse when it comes to "new" experiences. It will be a case of increasingly diminishing returns until the next big step forward comes about, whether that is VR, AR, or something we haven't even thought of yet.
It's not about just great games. Because there are great games now, too. But they don't or won't have as much impact because they're not "new" experiences.
So congratulations, youngin's. You now understand what nostalgia is and why us old people yearn for the good ol' days.
I'd rather have a capped, steady framerate at 30 than something that runs smooth as butter in a single room then crashes to **** when you walk outside.
It's good to see Embracer selling off studios and IP. I was legitimately afraid they were gonna die and all those properties would be stuck in legal limbo for the rest of eternity.
These games were cool back in the day, but the netcode was terrible and people's internet connections as a whole were pretty poor. The lag was the one thing that kept these games from being a blast. I'll probably be taking a look at them. I do hope they launch into one service or another though, because I don't know how long a mulitplayer game like this can survive on just nostalgia alone.
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Re: Xbox Glitch Sees 'Dragon Ball FighterZ' Get 100% Discount
Well, it probably will be revoked, now that you've reported on it. Stuff like this should be kept on the down-low. If you know, you know. But now everybody knows, including MS.
Re: Xbox Co-Creator Calls VR 'Disappointing' As Sony Slashes Price Of PSVR2
VR won't be relevant until we have the Holodeck with a Playboy Mansion app.
Re: Avowed New Update Now Live For Xbox, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
They still haven't answered why the "Balanced" mode doesn't pop up even though the X is hooked up to a VRR monitor capable of 120+ mhz.
Re: Two Decades Later, RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 Is Making Its Xbox Debut
But can I still drop the mascots in the lake, that's the question.
Re: BioWare Co-Founder Recalls 'Moronic' Xbox Advice That Potentially Ruined A Franchise
Jade Empire was an ok game. People love to wear the rose colored glasses for this one. I was riding high off of KOTOR and reserved the Special Edition of Jade Empire. Bought it day one, and beat it in a few evenings, and was extremely disappointed. The game wasn't nearly as good as KOTOR, and simultaneously was never going to have the mass appeal that a Star Wars game did. They have no one to blame but their own ridiculous expectations.
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase (February 2025): Date, Start Times, And What To Expect
Another showcase in the middle of a work day. Thanks MS.
Re: Talking Point: When Did You First Get Introduced To The World Of Xbox?
I already had a GameCube and a PS2, and I was skeptical of Microsoft having a console. Picked one up in '03 because I was bored with what the CG and PS2 had at the time. GameStop was having a B2G1 on used games so I picked up RTCW, DOA3, and Morrowind. Morrowind blew me away and shortly after that KOTOR released and I was all in after that.
Re: Reaction: Resident Evil 9 Should Stay Far Away From Flops Like Re:Verse
The story for RE0 could easily be folded into a remake of RE. It's not the most complicated plot out there, and a lot of it could be condensed. Hell, you could eliminate Billy's character completely, seeing how he has never re-surfaced in any form since. Just have a 2 or 3 hour prologue with Rebecca and call it a day.
Re: EA Seems To Think That Live Service Would Have Helped Xbox RPG Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Being a Dragon Age game would've helped Dragon Age Veilguard.
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase 2025 Announced For This Month, Game Pass Surprises Expected
ID@Xbox showcase hosted by IGN
Re: EA Says Need For Speed Is On Ice As Team Wraps Up Development On NFS Unbound
They should use this time to come up with some proper opponent A.I. rather than relying on that rubber band bs.
Re: Xbox Will Continue To Ship More Games On PlayStation And Nintendo
Everybody: "Xbox has failed."
MS: "I'm sorry, what? Can't hear you with all them cash registers CHA-CHING'ing."
Re: Xbox's First New Controller Of 2025 Is The 'Pulse Cipher' Special Edition
I stopped spending the money on first party controllers after my third one got stick drift. Not sure what MS changed, but their controllers used to be solid AF. I still have X360 controllers that are 20 years old that work like a dream.
I started buying PowerA controllers for $25 and will continue to do so until MS starts putting hall effect sticks in their controllers.
MICROSOFT: FIX YOUR ****.
Re: Xbox Is Adding Support For Even Bigger Storage Devices In 2025
Migration takes so f'ing long though... Maybe I'm just better off with my ISP than most others, but it's actually quicker for me to just re-download stuff. (But I do get that others have data caps, which I do not.)
Re: GTA 6 Raising Prices To '$80 Or Even $100' Could Cause Industry To Follow Suit, Says Analyst
Games were $50 and $60 back in the 90's when the game industry was so niche that selling 500k copies was a success and selling a million was ****ing amazing. Fast-forward to today when game companies whine that they can't make a profit when the market is literally hundreds of millions of people and they don't even need to print a physical product.
Also GTAO made like, a billion dollars last year.
Re: The House Of The Dead 2: Remake Confirmed For Xbox In Spring 2025
Just make it for VR already you cowards.
Re: MGS3 Remake Dev Rumoured To Be Working On Oblivion Remastered In Unreal Engine 5
I would be more surprised that MS/Bethesda would be out-sourcing their Oblivion remake to a third party chinese developer. Mainly because they don't need to.
Re: Indie Dev Questions Whether Xbox One Is Worth Developing For In 2025
Anything playable on Xbox One is playable on Series X/S... sooooo why wouldn't you?
Re: Croc Developer Insists There's 'Almost No Demand' For A Physical Xbox Version
Let's be honest; there's no demand for a physical PS5 release either.
Let's also be honest, there's no demand for a digital release for that matter.
Let's be also, also honest, there's no demand for this game period.
Re: Shenmue 3's New Publisher Asks Fans If They Want An Xbox Release
We already have like, 8 Shenmue games on Xbox. They're called Yakuza.
Re: Talking Point: A Year Later, What Do You Think Of Forza Motorsport?
Still waiting for like, 90% of the tracks I enjoyed from previous Forzas, so no. No it hasn't.
Still waiting for Mount Panorama, Fujimi Kaido, Burnese Alps, New York, Monsterrat, Prague, Miami, Rio de Janeiro, Amalfi Cost, Dubai, etc.
I would have loved to see some throwbacks like the Pacific Shipyard or the Tokyo Circuit from the original Forza. Or, i dunno, maybe some NEW locations we've never seen before?
As it is, all they have put in are licensed tracks that you can get in any other racing game. They haven't included anything to set it apart. I have always preferred FM over GT, but GT7 had a much, much better variety of tracks.
Turn 10 dropped the ball in the creativity department this time around.
Re: Xbox Fans Plead With Microsoft: 'Don't Forget About Us Physical Gamers'
A few vocal holdouts. They'll either need to get with the program or just be forever angry.
Here's the reality. I grew up with physical games. They do not last forever. Disc drives fail. The discs themselves degrade over time. Having a physical copy might mean you "own" the game, but it don't mean you'll still be playing it when you're 90.
Cartridges last longer but aside from Nintendo I can't see them ever being a viable format again. Even the Switch's days are number, in my opinion.
Re: Xbox's Best-Rated Game Of 2024 Is On Free Play Days This Weekend (November 14-17)
I have the entire Yakuza series on Steam, including Like a Dragon and Infinite Wealth. I should actually play them one of these days.
Re: Gears Of War: E-Day Will Contain Original Voice Actors For Marcus & Dom
As if you could make a Gears game and have any other v/o doing Marcus. Without DiMaggio, why even bother?
Re: SEGA Delisting Multiple Xbox Games This December
Yeah, de-listing so they can re-list as a new package. Nothing is lost, these games are readily available in one form or another. In fact I think I have all of them on a Switch cartridge.
EDIT: Oh, hah. That's the one they're de-listing. I thought it was the old ones from the 360. Carry on, nothing to see here lol.
Re: Surprise! Death Stranding Director's Cut Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
Eh, I've spent $20 on worse lol.
Re: Forza Motorsport Celebrates One Year Anniversary With Major Update
I really want to stay interested in FM but man they gotta start putting in some of the more scenic creative tracks. These flat licensed tracks all start to look the same after a while. FM has had some truly fantastic tracks in the past and I'm still waiting for them to get added to this one.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Employees 'Completely Confused' About New Xbox Strategy, Says Insider
Unless MS directly addresses employees on a certain company direction, that info is usually on a need to know basis. Most employees aren't in that pay grade. Such is life as an employee of a mega corporation.
Also, MS as a company is about as leaky a boat as it gets. If the higher ups aren't telling them anything, thank the "sources."
Re: Xbox Fans Hoping For Backwards Compatibility Announcement As 'Singularity' Gets Relisted
But I bought Singularity on sale from either GOG or Steam earlier this year...
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Fondest Memories Of The Original Xbox?
My fondest memory is that I was only 23 with my whole life ahead of me, before the world crushed my spirits and left me the broken husk of a human being I am today.
Re: Xbox Legend Major Nelson Asks For 'More Varied Experiences' At Lower Price Points
You mean like how gaming used to be? I agree, Larry.
Re: The Always-Online 'Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown' Suffers Launch Day Outages On Xbox
So did we learn a lesson, or are we still spending extra money for these bull**** "early access" editions that never seem to work?
Re: Game Informer's Sudden Closure Is Also Bad News For Dragon Age: The Veilguard
I can pick up an old GamePro magazine from a drawer in my old bedroom at my mom's house and read a 30-yr old article from 1994. Just sayin'.
Re: More Crystal Dynamics Remasters Could Be On The Way
@InvaderFromSpace GOG has the original Legacy of Kain and is on sale right now for less than $2. In fact, it has all the LoK games except for the first Soul Reaver.
However, none of the games services have Soul Reaver. Square Enix pulled it from stores for whatever reason a while back, then sold them off to Embracer. So it's essentially just been in limbo on PC until somebody at Eidos/Crystal Dynamics or Embracer decides to re-release it.
Hopefully this rumor is true.
Re: 'Double Dragon' Is Officially Getting A 3D Revival On Xbox In 2025
Wow that looks... so generic.
Re: Talking Point: Has Your Gaming Slowed Down As You've Got Older?
That's not a simple question; When I was younger, games were simpler and shorter. They didn't demand your time nearly as much. On top of that, when I was a teen, pagers were barely even a thing-- no internet, no cell phones. So if you wanted to socialize, you had to actually GO OUT AND SOCIALIZE. So I wasn't home as much. Gaming was done in small chunks here or there. Sometimes we'd get some friends together and have some NBA Jam tournaments or Bomberman 2 sessions. Maybe rotate through on some Street Fighter 2. But it was always just "something else to do" and never a core focus.
I have more disposable income as an adult, so I can afford to splurge whenever the Steam or Console sales come around. My backlog is gigantic, but honestly, yeah my gaming has slowed down considerably, in the sense that I don't beat games as quickly as I used to. I game in spurts of an hour or so, instead of the all-night marathons I did in my teens/early 20's once the Playstation and Xbox rolled around.
I have challenges in my job and life every day, I'm not looking to be challenged in my gaming. That's my wind-down. My relaxation. So while I do enjoy Souls-likes and multiplayer shooters, I rarely finish them or put significant time into them. And if there's an Easy or Story mode to an RPG, I'll choose it every time.
Re: Xbox's Chief Marketing Officer Is Leaving Microsoft To Join Roblox
He already didn't do anything for MS and now he's heading over to a game that literally sells itself. Bro living life on Easy mode. How do I get this job?
Man I really hope this reverses that absolutely dismal job MS has been doing in the marketing dept. for the past few years.
Re: Xbox's 'Slimy Platform Things' Comment Draws Attention Of Former PlayStation Boss
@Fenbops I don't believe that for a bit. He's been around a long time and he's been pretty genuine. And that has come back to bite him in the ass a few times. Everybody hangs on every little phrase he says. Everybody takes their own interpretation of his words. The dude has to clarity and re-clarify and say things as bluntly and plainly as possible, so that there's no room for interpretation. The ABK acquisition put a spotlight on that. So yeah, Phil has become pretty corporate in his PR fluff speak. But you can't blame him for that. You can blame the media and us, though.
Re: Square Enix Announces New Dragon Quest Remake For Xbox Series X|S
If there are any games that deserve to be remade, it's Dragon Quest 1 & 2. I've recently started playing DQ1 on NES and man it's rough. Not even talking graphics, but weird difficulty spikes and outdated, hardcore gameplay mechanices (like having to travel all the way back to the castle to save your game, and losing half your gold if you die because of said weird difficulty spikes).
I realize they got "remasters" of sorts with new artwork on Switch, but from what I understand they kept the core gameplay mechanics and they're just as brutal as the originals.
Re: 'Trail Out' Dev Shares Major Plans For First Xbox Series X|S Update
Wait... is this Flatout under a different name? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME.
Re: Embracer Group Is Splitting Into Three Companies Following Recent Layoffs
I have so little faith in this.
Re: Xbox Fans Seem Divided Over The New 'Happening Now' Social Feature
Xbox, for all its innovations and technology, really... REALLY ****ing sucks at UI/UX. Seriously.
How, after multiple iterations and designs across the 360, Xbox One, and Series consoles, they settled on this travesty of an interface is beyond me.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Actively Avoid Xbox Games With Massive Download Sizes?
I come from a day when we used to have binders full of 5.25 floppy disks. Downloading a 5 MB file meant tying up your phone line for three hours.
Today, I have about 30 TB of storage spread over several hard drives on my PC and a 1 TB expansion card with a 5 TB external hooked up to my Xbox. I pay for fiber and can download a 100 GB file in about an hour. Sometimes less.
I will download any damn thing I can get my hands on. It's wonderful.
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
Kinda sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Update To Add Frame Rate Cap On Xbox Series X And S
Capped at 30 is not the same as locked at 30. Just pointing that out.
Re: Talking Point: In Your Opinion, What Made The Xbox 360 Era So Incredible?
The generation had some great games, but there was also a ton of innovation and experimentation at this time. The 360/PS3 era was a time when there were a lot of "firsts" on console.
True wireless controllers, that could turn the system off and on. Integrated party chat that allowed anyone to talk to anyone else no matter what they were playing. Gamerscore and trophies were introduced in this gen. An integrated, unifying store that you could browse. This generation also introduced digital downloads, disc installs, custom profiles and avatars. It also saw Xbox experiment with several different dashboard styles, some great... some not so great.
We got to play around with the Xbox Vision Cam and Eye Toy, putting photos of ourselves on our driver licenses for Burnout Paradise and mapping our face to our character in Rainbow Six Vegas and NBA 2K.
We got the Kinect and the PS Move.. and while they weren't as successful as we would have liked (it was commercially successful for MS) it was still an experiment in pushing gaming forward.
Xbox Live became much more stable, netcode got more competent and people's internet overall was much better by the time the Xbox 360 rolled around. Games were playable now. I loved the early days of XBL but let's be honest, most of them were a laggy mess.
Social media and digital streaming were really starting to become a thing at this time as well, and while that's not directly related to Xbox or Playstation, it did impact our enjoyment of the generation, as our social reach was beginning to expand and we were communicating in new ways.
No generation will ever be as memorable as that one, because for the most part, technology has gotten faster and better, but innovation has stagnated. We are at a bit of a impasse when it comes to "new" experiences. It will be a case of increasingly diminishing returns until the next big step forward comes about, whether that is VR, AR, or something we haven't even thought of yet.
It's not about just great games. Because there are great games now, too. But they don't or won't have as much impact because they're not "new" experiences.
So congratulations, youngin's. You now understand what nostalgia is and why us old people yearn for the good ol' days.
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Launches With Uncapped 30FPS Performance On Xbox
I'd rather have a capped, steady framerate at 30 than something that runs smooth as butter in a single room then crashes to **** when you walk outside.
Re: Embracer Group Set To Sell Two Major Studios In Big-Money Deals
It's good to see Embracer selling off studios and IP. I was legitimately afraid they were gonna die and all those properties would be stuck in legal limbo for the rest of eternity.
Re: Toys For Bob Is Becoming An Indie Studio, Leaving Xbox And Activision
Re: Star Wars Battlefront Returns To Xbox With 64-Player Online Battles This March
These games were cool back in the day, but the netcode was terrible and people's internet connections as a whole were pretty poor. The lag was the one thing that kept these games from being a blast. I'll probably be taking a look at them. I do hope they launch into one service or another though, because I don't know how long a mulitplayer game like this can survive on just nostalgia alone.