It will be pretty great i think. Microsoft will bend over backwards to impress the Playstation audience, so it will probably be better than halo has been in a long time...
This is a weird one for me because I never really care about the narrative in Bethesdas other games, I just went out adventuring in the world. It's very much the opposite in Starfield. I found the adventuring to be EXTREMELY boring but I really enjoyed most of the main campaign.
I enjoyed HellBlade, but it mostly made me wish there was more.. game...in it. It's an incredible universe but the gameplay is by FAR the weakest element (note that it wasn't nominated for any gameplay-related awards). With a varied combat system and better puzzles you'd have something arguably better than the new God of War games. It's fine as is, like I said i enjoyed it, but it could be much more.
I'm actually fine with this. For one thing, i expected it (what's a big xbox release without at least ONE delay?), and Secondly, for once there seems to be a lot of games releasing this year. Finally, I'm fairly certain this delay is more about GTA 6 than anything, so I get it. I wouldn't release my game anywhere NEAR that game.
I certainly wouldn't launch anywhere near GTA 6, but it's probably fine because Playground could probably get away with pushing Fable back to this time next year. This looks like a year where we will have tons of games to play.
@Medic_alert all 3 companies are moving towards a digital future. And if Microsoft is as successful as they probably will be, Sony will be right behind them.
This is going to be very interesting. If everyone can get past gasp! Microsoft putting their games on other platforms, we'll be dealing with a pretty financially healthy Xbox, and a publisher in Microsoft who will carry a lot of weight in the industry.
I think, depending on the financials, that next generation will probably be the last xbox console. It won't be as bad as it sounds, in ten years streaming will probably be almost indistinguishable from native, so Xbox will essentially be a storefront you play from. Sony will probably be motivated to make a Playstation 7, but we're officially at a point where the two companies have very different business models.
This is the beginning of something not the end. Microsoft is likely to see huge profits from this new direction, Sony is already putting their biggest games on PC, and Nintendo is Nintendo (although I expect them to come up with their own way of doing something similar).
The days of games being locked on one plastic box are ending. It's a good thing.
Its an intriguing story but I can't help but be wary, because Microsoft has under-delivered so many times, plus Compulsion doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation lol. But I really want this to be great.
@Prestige-worldwide yes, the same reason why Sony ports to PC: there are more PC users. But don't be surprised if Sony does eventually port to Xbox. Why NOT take another million sales on your biggest games?
Forza is going to drop onto a Playstation that is probably at least 2 years away from releasing a new Gran Turismo. It is going to make a mountain of money. Later, the MCC is going to release onto a Playstation that has nothing to compare to it except for....COD, which Microsoft also owns. A second mountain of money. Third, really. This will happen again with Gears. Microsoft is going to make BILLIONS of dollars with this strategy. Sony is already doing this with PC, but they aren't likely to make as much money as Microsoft (thus their recent pivot towards live service).
Sony is selling more plastic boxes, but they and Microsoft both know that the economics of the industry have changed.
A lot of people are pretending that Microsoft is alone here, but Sony is doing pretty much the same thing, sending many of their own games to PC. if Microsoft makes a lot of money this way (hint: Microsoft is going to make a LOT of money this way), Sony will follow suit. No? Why did the most recent Horizon game also launch on Switch? That was Sony's toe in the water. This is the way forward.
And then in 2 months they'll announce the game. Then in 1 year there will be a trailer, and then in 4 years there will be a delay, and in 6 years a new creative director, then in 8 years a gameplay trailer. In 9 years a second delay, and 11 years the game will release. 7/10 on metacritic.
They REALLY shouldn't. Microsoft needs to establish WHY anyone should buy their next machine, especially since people aren't buying their current ones.
On a related note, this might be the first generation ever where the full capabilities of the current machines are never reached before the generation ends. Its weird...
I've owned every xbox console, but i honestly can't think of a reason to buy the next one. I say this all the time....but we didn't ask for any of this. Didn't ask for Xbox games on other platforms, or $70 billion acquisitions, we didn't even ask for Game Pass. We wanted Microsoft to make good, compelling games that come out in good shape and on time. That's it. And they haven't come close to delivering that. They're now spending who knows how much on their next machine, a machine that MIGHT sell 20 million units because who has faith in xbox at this point? If they care about the brand at all (they don't) it's a good idea to dump Phil and change direction...
As long as xbox is profitable, we don't have to worry too much about it going away. That's good news. People who still see the ONLY marker of a platform's success as how many plastic boxes it sells compared to another manufacturer will be upset, but they'll be ok.
This is becoming a non-story, really. Both Sony and Microsoft have transitioned to an age where they release their games on their home console, then to a wider audience. Game Pass is the reason to choose Xbox if you want. If you don't that's fine too, you can simply purchase at full price. It's a win for everyone except for the various console warriors, and to hell with them lol
-Phil will give a short vague speech about how great this year was and thank the fans everywhere for blah blah blah
-an announcement of a game finally coming to Xbox (the game has been available on ps5 and/or Switch for a long time). There is mild excitement, but not as much as if the game had released 1 or 2 years ago.
CG trailer announcing new game. Looks interesting. No gameplay is shown, nor is a release date given. Sarah Bond! She comes out and gives the stats on how many players blah blah blah. short sizzle reel
they're designing a next generation console, assumably spending tens of millions of dollars to design, market and produce said console, while actively working to tell absolutely everyone that there is almost no good reason to BUY the console.
Games. Good, high-quality games released at a steady pace, in good shape and ON-TIME at launch. No more revealing games 5-6 YEARS before they're done (do you ever think about how ridiculous that is?). Microsoft has a million studios. We want games. It's all we've EVER asked for. Literally none of any of the other nonsense xbox has done did we ever ask for. We just want xbox to produce games.
Either there is no one at Microsoft whose job it is to say "this game isn't good enough to release" or whoever they are they're completely incompetent. This game is an absolute MESS. obviously there has to be some grace given considering the conditions the team faced, but I'm not going to pretend this game is better than it is. There's a LOT wrong here.
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Re: Talking Point: Will Xbox Manage To Create 'Something Legendary' With The Next Halo?
It will be pretty great i think. Microsoft will bend over backwards to impress the Playstation audience, so it will probably be better than halo has been in a long time...
Re: Starfield Has Possibly The Best Single-Player Narrative Of All Time, Says God Of War Director
This is a weird one for me because I never really care about the narrative in Bethesdas other games, I just went out adventuring in the world. It's very much the opposite in Starfield. I found the adventuring to be EXTREMELY boring but I really enjoyed most of the main campaign.
Re: Xbox's Hellblade 2 Gets More Nominations Than Any Other Game At BAFTA Awards 2025
I enjoyed HellBlade, but it mostly made me wish there was more.. game...in it. It's an incredible universe but the gameplay is by FAR the weakest element (note that it wasn't nominated for any gameplay-related awards). With a varied combat system and better puzzles you'd have something arguably better than the new God of War games. It's fine as is, like I said i enjoyed it, but it could be much more.
Re: Xbox Co-Creator Calls VR 'Disappointing' As Sony Slashes Price Of PSVR2
Oddly, the killer apps might be on competing platforms.
Halo VR would sell great, but imagine...
Mario Kart VR. Sony's reluctance to invest in 1st person games is a small part of the problem.
That being said for that new price...I miiiiiiight be in....maybe.
Re: Xbox Has Officially Delayed Fable Into 2026
I'm actually fine with this. For one thing, i expected it (what's a big xbox release without at least ONE delay?), and Secondly, for once there seems to be a lot of games releasing this year. Finally, I'm fairly certain this delay is more about GTA 6 than anything, so I get it. I wouldn't release my game anywhere NEAR that game.
Re: Microsoft CEO Commits To Producing 'Great Quality Games' As Xbox Expands
@Kaloudz i rarely get truly excited for games anymore (I'm old).
But DAMN I can't wait to play doom lol
Re: Talking Point: If GTA 6 Releases This Year, What Does Xbox Do With Fable?
I certainly wouldn't launch anywhere near GTA 6, but it's probably fine because Playground could probably get away with pushing Fable back to this time next year. This looks like a year where we will have tons of games to play.
Re: Xbox's New Strategy Is 'Right' For The Business And Needs To Be Embraced, Says Former Exec
@Medic_alert all 3 companies are moving towards a digital future. And if Microsoft is as successful as they probably will be, Sony will be right behind them.
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Studios Roadmap For 2025 & Beyond
This is going to be very interesting. If everyone can get past gasp! Microsoft putting their games on other platforms, we'll be dealing with a pretty financially healthy Xbox, and a publisher in Microsoft who will carry a lot of weight in the industry.
Re: Xbox's New Strategy Is 'Right' For The Business And Needs To Be Embraced, Says Former Exec
@Medic_alert but....why?
Re: Xbox's New Strategy Is 'Right' For The Business And Needs To Be Embraced, Says Former Exec
I think, depending on the financials, that next generation will probably be the last xbox console. It won't be as bad as it sounds, in ten years streaming will probably be almost indistinguishable from native, so Xbox will essentially be a storefront you play from. Sony will probably be motivated to make a Playstation 7, but we're officially at a point where the two companies have very different business models.
Re: Xbox Will Be 'Honest & Transparent' About Platforms In Future Showcases, Says Phil Spencer
This is the beginning of something not the end. Microsoft is likely to see huge profits from this new direction, Sony is already putting their biggest games on PC, and Nintendo is Nintendo (although I expect them to come up with their own way of doing something similar).
The days of games being locked on one plastic box are ending. It's a good thing.
Re: Avowed: Release Date, Release Times, Early Access Details For Xbox & PC
@mac_da_man by the time it leaves Game Pass, most people will have either finished it or bought it
Re: Xbox Praised For Putting 'Lots Of Effort' Into Store Curation Compared To Sony & Nintendo
I think part of the reason is that Microsoft has known for a very long time that the future of the brand was in that store.
Re: South Of Midnight Preview (Xbox) - A Compulsion We're Desperate To Indulge
Its an intriguing story but I can't help but be wary, because Microsoft has under-delivered so many times, plus Compulsion doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation lol. But I really want this to be great.
Re: Random: Xbox Fan Shares Clip Of Microsoft's Console Factory Line From 2006
Xbox 360 themed controller?
Re: Talking Point: What Would You Want From A New Batman Game?
I'd like to see one based in the world of The Dark Knight Returns.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy 2, Batman Arkham Sequel Detailed In Revealing Warner Bros. Report
Ooooh what if the new Batman takes place in the Dark Knight Returns universe.........?
Meh, it won't lol
Re: Two More Xbox First-Party Games Are Moving To PS5 In 2025
@OldGamer999 exactly 💯
Re: 10 Xbox Games Are Shutting Down Their Servers In February 2025
I was SO disappointed with Dark Alliance. I was a huge fan of the originals, but that thing was craaaaap 😆.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
@abe_hikura and that's fine. I think not getting games day and date is a fair compromise to help people who still want the competition.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
@Prestige-worldwide yes, the same reason why Sony ports to PC: there are more PC users. But don't be surprised if Sony does eventually port to Xbox. Why NOT take another million sales on your biggest games?
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
Let's do the economics:
Forza is going to drop onto a Playstation that is probably at least 2 years away from releasing a new Gran Turismo. It is going to make a mountain of money. Later, the MCC is going to release onto a Playstation that has nothing to compare to it except for....COD, which Microsoft also owns. A second mountain of money. Third, really.
This will happen again with Gears. Microsoft is going to make BILLIONS of dollars with this strategy. Sony is already doing this with PC, but they aren't likely to make as much money as Microsoft (thus their recent pivot towards live service).
Sony is selling more plastic boxes, but they and Microsoft both know that the economics of the industry have changed.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Officially Announced For PS5, Drifts Over In Spring 2025
@Isolte Microsoft is going to make a BUTTLOAD of money.
There. Spun.
Re: GTA 6 Unlikely To Run At 60FPS On Xbox, Says Former Rockstar Dev
Lol this is where the people who usually pretend 30 fps is unplayable go oddly quiet...
Re: Xbox's Multiplatform Releases Made Microsoft The Top Game Publisher In The World Last Month
@Isolte lol they've known that for a VERY long time.
Re: Xbox Is 'Evolving' Rather Than 'Losing' Its Identity, Says Phil Spencer
A lot of people are pretending that Microsoft is alone here, but Sony is doing pretty much the same thing, sending many of their own games to PC. if Microsoft makes a lot of money this way (hint: Microsoft is going to make a LOT of money this way), Sony will follow suit. No? Why did the most recent Horizon game also launch on Switch? That was Sony's toe in the water. This is the way forward.
Re: Phil Spencer Shares His Aspirations For Xbox Before He Reaches Retirement
Innovate="find different ways to make money".
Re: Xbox Is Hiring For Someone To Lead An Unnamed Dev Team, Starting Next Month
And then in 2 months they'll announce the game. Then in 1 year there will be a trailer, and then in 4 years there will be a delay, and in 6 years a new creative director, then in 8 years a gameplay trailer. In 9 years a second delay, and 11 years the game will release. 7/10 on metacritic.
Re: Talking Point: Will Microsoft Fully Reveal Its Next-Gen Xbox This Year?
They REALLY shouldn't. Microsoft needs to establish WHY anyone should buy their next machine, especially since people aren't buying their current ones.
On a related note, this might be the first generation ever where the full capabilities of the current machines are never reached before the generation ends. Its weird...
Re: Soapbox: I Hope Xbox Properly Supports Switch 2 When It Launches In 2025
Xbox barely supports Xbox lol
Re: Talking Point: Are You Hoping For Another 'Shadow Drop' At Xbox Developer Direct 2025?
@Bigmanfan it was the best game they had released in YEARS. I was done after that lol
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy 7 Remake & Rebirth Supposedly 'Confirmed' For Xbox In 2025 / 2026
Ok no seriously, how many times has Purexbox reported that these games are "confirmed " to be coming ? HAS to be 10 times lol
Re: Xbox Developer Direct Returns This Month To Highlight Four 2025 Titles
Ever Everwild seems possible, since they hinted at it over the holidays. That would be a nice surprise:)
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Estimates Show Consoles Lagging Far Behind Last-Gen
I've owned every xbox console, but i honestly can't think of a reason to buy the next one. I say this all the time....but we didn't ask for any of this. Didn't ask for Xbox games on other platforms, or $70 billion acquisitions, we didn't even ask for Game Pass. We wanted Microsoft to make good, compelling games that come out in good shape and on time. That's it. And they haven't come close to delivering that. They're now spending who knows how much on their next machine, a machine that MIGHT sell 20 million units because who has faith in xbox at this point? If they care about the brand at all (they don't) it's a good idea to dump Phil and change direction...
Re: Microsoft Rejected Halo & DOOM Crossover For 'Secret Level' Episode, Say Creators
Crossover?
id should be MAKING Halo at this point.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Saga Just Got A Whole Lot More Confusing
@TeiGekiLord where are you seeing blame in that? You're just being antagonistic at this point.
Re: Microsoft Boss Highlights Why He's Feeling 'Very, Very Good' About Xbox Right Now
As long as xbox is profitable, we don't have to worry too much about it going away. That's good news. People who still see the ONLY marker of a platform's success as how many plastic boxes it sells compared to another manufacturer will be upset, but they'll be ok.
Re: Xbox Has Reportedly Delayed 'A Big Game' Into 2026
They've delayed a game BEFORE announcing its original release date.
That's gotta be a record 😆
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
This is becoming a non-story, really. Both Sony and Microsoft have transitioned to an age where they release their games on their home console, then to a wider audience. Game Pass is the reason to choose Xbox if you want. If you don't that's fine too, you can simply purchase at full price. It's a win for everyone except for the various console warriors, and to hell with them lol
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Expecting From Xbox At The Game Awards 2024?
-Phil will give a short vague speech about how great this year was and thank the fans everywhere for blah blah blah
-an announcement of a game finally coming to Xbox (the game has been available on ps5 and/or Switch for a long time). There is mild excitement, but not as much as if the game had released 1 or 2 years ago.
Sarah Bond! She comes out and gives the stats on how many players blah blah blah.
short sizzle reel
Scene.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Isn't On Xbox Yet, But The Director Clearly Wants To See It Happen
@TeiGekiLord who said Sony invented them? Maybe you're not playing, my apologies.
Re: Rumour: Forza Horizon 5 'Will Arrive' On PS5, Despite A Delay From Xbox
they're designing a next generation console, assumably spending tens of millions of dollars to design, market and produce said console, while actively working to tell absolutely everyone that there is almost no good reason to BUY the console.
Microsoft, ladies and gentlemen.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Wondering What Happened To Series X|S Exclusive 'Contraband'
The sad thing is that you could write this same article about like 5 other games lol
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox In 2025?
Same answer for the last 10 years.
Games. Good, high-quality games released at a steady pace, in good shape and ON-TIME at launch. No more revealing games 5-6 YEARS before they're done (do you ever think about how ridiculous that is?). Microsoft has a million studios. We want games. It's all we've EVER asked for. Literally none of any of the other nonsense xbox has done did we ever ask for. We just want xbox to produce games.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Isn't On Xbox Yet, But The Director Clearly Wants To See It Happen
@MeanBeanEgg um, the ENTIRE POINT of the deal was to exclude xbox. Let's not play dumb.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Stalker 2 On Xbox Game Pass So Far?
I'll try it again after a few (dozen?) Patches.
Either there is no one at Microsoft whose job it is to say "this game isn't good enough to release" or whoever they are they're completely incompetent. This game is an absolute MESS. obviously there has to be some grace given considering the conditions the team faced, but I'm not going to pretend this game is better than it is. There's a LOT wrong here.
Re: Sony's Next Acquisition Could Have A Big Impact On Future Xbox Releases
@freddones you are VASTLY underestimating how much money Sony has. Also this wouldn't likely be a cash sale.
Re: Xbox Fails To Make GOTY List, But Still Gets 11 Nominations For The Game Awards 2024
Loved Hellblade 2, BUT Microsoft needs to encourage the studio to add more gameplay variety for part 3. This series could be amazing.
Re: The Original Xbox Is Now 23 Years Old, But It's Still Relevant In So Many Ways
A nice reminder that Microsoft really used to try 😆