@J_Mo_Money Yeah it amazes me how some people still obsess over metacritic and scores the way they do. It might have had some value before we had things like streaming sites and Gamepass, but now a days I don't really have any need for reviews, it's so easy to get a feel for a game just by watching someone else play it, or better yet being able to play it yourself on a subscription.
This just looks like good old school solo FPS fun. This is exactly what I am looking for in an era that has been dominated by live service online multiplayer shooters.
The new Forza Motorsport has felt like a setback from previous Forzas, and this just adds insult to injury. There is a good reason why I deleted Forza after a couple of days and went back to GT7, and after this update, I have a hard time seeing the new Forza ever pulling me away. The fact that I say this as someone who has been a big fan of Forza Motorsport since the original says a lot about this whole situation.
It's amazing how far downhill FPS have gone over the past decade. We no longer get any good solo tactical games like Tom Clancy's Vegas, COD and Battlefield have lost their way, and live service zoomer shooters/battle royale games have become all the rage for publishers. It's no wonder I rarely see anything that excites me there anymore.
@tanaka2687 That metacritic user score is highly suspicious considering how many positive reviews I have seen from users with similar names and similar simple comments for their 10/10's. Seems like the shills went in very hard on that one, pretty much the opposite of review bombing. Comments on Xbox as well as Steam have been far less positive, and that's from actual verified sources.
@Pusher2021 Welcome to the wonderful world of live services, where EVERYTHING is dependent upon server connections. Connection issue? Good luck trying to save any progress.
Definitely excited to see Activision under new leadership, they have too many great IP's going to waste. Free from the shackles of needing to please investors with consistent COD sales.
@Lightweight Lying and ignoring fans is basically everything about the official response regarding this game. Good to see people being honest about it. I deleted this game after getting tired of the car leveling grind. I'll just go back to Forza 6 and 7 for my FM fix, this game needs a total rethink and rework.
@MrMagic It definitely feels like a flop, and it's probably made worse by the aggressive shilling done on sites like metacritic and aggressive removal of discontent on the Xbox store reviews. Now they're in a situation where a lot of people are quietly quitting the game and they'll be scratching their heads wondering why.
@Serpentes420 Yeah even past Diablos were sort of like that, but for me this new one is just a bit more soulless. Even the graphics don't really impress me, it's just alright. The writing feels like it's not nearly as good as it used to be, and the gameplay just has more of a grindy feel to it.
I don't see how Gamepass could have a bad effect on sales, if anything it's good marketing, there's a lot of games I bought because I played them on Gamepass first.
Glad to see they are making SOME changes to the upgrade system, but I am still going to wait for more updates before I think about installing this again.
@FraserG Yeah I saw that lol, good stuff! Of course back then I was just assuming that based on the Gamepass support with other titles in the franchise. Excited to get into this one finally, the historical setting is really appealing to me.
I consider this my game of the generation so far. It's by far the most interesting thing I have seen come along that is exclusive to this generation of consoles. There is nothing else quite like it really, they took the Bethesda RPG formula and expanded it into space. It's both a great space exploration game as well as a great open world RPG. One of those games I can see myself playing for a very long time.
@abe_hikura Yup, but luckily that should all change now that the old management is out, getting replaced by Xbox management. It's why I have always been a fan of this deal, as someone who is a fan of their other IP's.
@Jaxx420 Eh I guess, but I still feel like they got a better chance than they did with Activision's old management. Heck they had a hit with THPS 1+2 and cancelled 3+4 just to stick the devs on COD duty. It was about as mismanaged as a property holder could become, all they cared about anymore was COD.
I hope this will bring some life back to dormant Activision IP's now that it's no longer a publisher that needs to obsess over COD to please shareholders. As they're a part of Microsoft now it's all just another part of the Xbox family, the shareholders to please will no longer be focused on an individual franchise of theirs like that.
What I really want to see is a proper new Spyro that gets the Crash 4 treatment, one that ignores everything that happened after the original trilogy and just picks up from there staying true to it's roots.
I get the challenges with Series S, but then again that should be no issue for any developer capable of releasing a game on PC, where you have to make your games accessable to a wide variety of specs, often times lower than ideal.
As for the Series S, I have heard too many people in markets like Brazil praising it's relative affordability to say anything negative about it. I think it's good for the industry to have a decent low-priced offering.
@BBB Yeah I just know how quickly things can change. There wasn't really any microtransactions when GT7 launched either. I just don't have any trust in these games anymore, especially when online services become a big aspect.
@iplaygamesnstuff For real. It's hilarious or simply sad how some people will try to aggressively shill for and defend this generation's practices when it's become so predatory with all of the online service and microtransaction schemes. Especially when half the highly praised games these days seem to be remakes and remasters.
@OldGamer999 Yeah I'm sure you will hear a lot more about it as the user feedback starts to roll in. It was a similar deal with GT7, most critics and gaming sites were very quiet about the live service online requirements and microtransactions, but the user feedback was very vocal about it.
@Kevw2006 Way to completely ignore the always-online requirement aspect just to push the sales pitch for live services lol. There is a good reason why live services have become so unpopular in the gaming community as of lately. A lot of people like to play their games whenever they like, not bound to their online service status.
@Mauzuri I also like how you can just pick a theme and stick with it, unlike the PS5 where it just has the one generic background and goes to whatever game is being highlighted. I have always used the original Xbox dynamic background.
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Re: Reaction: Forza Motorsport Should Be Feeling The Pressure After New Gran Turismo 7 Update
@J_Mo_Money Yeah it amazes me how some people still obsess over metacritic and scores the way they do. It might have had some value before we had things like streaming sites and Gamepass, but now a days I don't really have any need for reviews, it's so easy to get a feel for a game just by watching someone else play it, or better yet being able to play it yourself on a subscription.
Re: Review: Robocop: Rogue City - A Slice Of 1980s Nostalgia That Feels Purposefully Old School
This just looks like good old school solo FPS fun. This is exactly what I am looking for in an era that has been dominated by live service online multiplayer shooters.
Re: Review: Jusant: Not Quite The 'Peak' Of Xbox Game Pass, But Still A Fun Adventure
Not a fan of the art style but I do like the concept of a climbing game.
Re: Reaction: Forza Motorsport Should Be Feeling The Pressure After New Gran Turismo 7 Update
The new Forza Motorsport has felt like a setback from previous Forzas, and this just adds insult to injury. There is a good reason why I deleted Forza after a couple of days and went back to GT7, and after this update, I have a hard time seeing the new Forza ever pulling me away. The fact that I say this as someone who has been a big fan of Forza Motorsport since the original says a lot about this whole situation.
Re: Soapbox: 10-Year Old FPS Remains One Of The Best On Xbox Game Pass
It's amazing how far downhill FPS have gone over the past decade. We no longer get any good solo tactical games like Tom Clancy's Vegas, COD and Battlefield have lost their way, and live service zoomer shooters/battle royale games have become all the rage for publishers. It's no wonder I rarely see anything that excites me there anymore.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 2 Coming Mid-November, Here Are The Early Patch Notes
@tanaka2687 That metacritic user score is highly suspicious considering how many positive reviews I have seen from users with similar names and similar simple comments for their 10/10's. Seems like the shills went in very hard on that one, pretty much the opposite of review bombing. Comments on Xbox as well as Steam have been far less positive, and that's from actual verified sources.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 2 Coming Mid-November, Here Are The Early Patch Notes
@Pusher2021 Welcome to the wonderful world of live services, where EVERYTHING is dependent upon server connections. Connection issue? Good luck trying to save any progress.
Re: Here's A Look At Microsoft And Xbox's New Gaming Leadership Structure
I think they got good leadership here at Xbox, far better than the mess that has become Playstation leadership.
Re: Activision Blizzard Documents Its 44-Year History With New Infographic Featuring Xbox
Definitely excited to see Activision under new leadership, they have too many great IP's going to waste. Free from the shackles of needing to please investors with consistent COD sales.
Re: Microsoft Increasing Xbox Series S Price In Brazil
What's with the Xbox haters flocking to these comments? It's really weird.
Re: Review: Alan Wake 2 - Remedy's Best Game Yet And A Big Improvement On The Original
So it's Alan Wake where you don't play as Alan Wake? Guess they pulled a MGS2 bait-n-switch.
Re: Starfield Launch Set Record For "Most Game Pass Subscriptions Added On A Single Day Ever"
Already had a sub but it's my game of the year.
Re: Xbox Receives Multiple Nominations For Golden Joystick 'Ultimate GOTY' Award
It's my GOTY for sure.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 1.1 Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Lightweight Lying and ignoring fans is basically everything about the official response regarding this game. Good to see people being honest about it. I deleted this game after getting tired of the car leveling grind. I'll just go back to Forza 6 and 7 for my FM fix, this game needs a total rethink and rework.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 21-22)
I've been playing the Diablo 4 trial this weekend, simply because it's the only time I can play it for free lol.
Re: Most Forza Motorsport Players Sticking To Single-Player, It Seems
@MrMagic It definitely feels like a flop, and it's probably made worse by the aggressive shilling done on sites like metacritic and aggressive removal of discontent on the Xbox store reviews. Now they're in a situation where a lot of people are quietly quitting the game and they'll be scratching their heads wondering why.
Re: Diablo 4 Is Getting A Free Trial For Everyone On Xbox This Weekend
@Serpentes420 Yeah even past Diablos were sort of like that, but for me this new one is just a bit more soulless. Even the graphics don't really impress me, it's just alright. The writing feels like it's not nearly as good as it used to be, and the gameplay just has more of a grindy feel to it.
Re: Step Aside Gollum, We Have A New Contender For Worst Xbox Game Of 2023
@Xeraphis If you seriously think Switch games are comparable to Series X and PS5 games, you desperately need to get your eyes checked.
Re: Most Forza Motorsport Players Sticking To Single-Player, It Seems
Pretty big news considering how they compromised the entire game design around being always-online.
Re: Reaction: Seriously, Microsoft Doesn't Care About Using Call Of Duty To Sell Xboxes
Why is this such a hot topic?
Re: Diablo 4 Is Getting A Free Trial For Everyone On Xbox This Weekend
I might just give this a go finally.
Re: Talking Point: Did Your Xbox 360 Ever Get The 'Red Ring Of Death'?
I think it happened to an elite I had way back, I detached the HD and bought a core to replace it.
Re: Step Aside Gollum, We Have A New Contender For Worst Xbox Game Of 2023
This just looks like the average Switch game.
Re: Phil Spencer Welcomes PlayStation's Call Of Duty Fans, Confirms No Xbox Exclusive Content
@CutchuSlow Lol, why are you even here if this is your take?
Re: Xbox Boss Would Love To 'Revisit' Older Franchises More, Uses Quake 2 As An Example
He really needs to dig up the Activision IP graveyard and bring back some games we all want.
Re: Lies Of P Has Sold 1 Million Copies Already, Despite Its Inclusion With Xbox Game Pass
@PsBoxSwitchOwner I've said that before, so it can be give and take, but it's not like things are different with PS+ tiers.
Re: Lies Of P Has Sold 1 Million Copies Already, Despite Its Inclusion With Xbox Game Pass
I don't see how Gamepass could have a bad effect on sales, if anything it's good marketing, there's a lot of games I bought because I played them on Gamepass first.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 1.0 Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Glad to see they are making SOME changes to the upgrade system, but I am still going to wait for more updates before I think about installing this again.
Re: Turn 10 Doubles Down On Bringing 'Monthly New Content' To Forza Motorsport
The only content I want is a major revision to their upgrade system.
Re: Review: Like A Dragon: Ishin! - This Slick Remaster Serves Up Another Excellent Yakuza Adventure
@FraserG Yeah I saw that lol, good stuff! Of course back then I was just assuming that based on the Gamepass support with other titles in the franchise. Excited to get into this one finally, the historical setting is really appealing to me.
Re: Bethesda's Longtime Publishing Head Pete Hines Is Leaving The Company
If he's just a publisher not a big loss really.
Re: Talking Point: Which Activision Blizzard Series Do You Want To Play Most On Xbox Game Pass?
I would want a proper Spyro 4 like Crash 4, one that ignores everything that came after the original trilogy and picks up where that left off.
Then I would like to see a THPS 3+4 and a proper THPS 6 by the same people who made THPS 1+2.
Re: Limited Run CEO Claims Walmart May Be Dropping Physical Xbox Games Soon
I also heard how Best Buy is going to be dropping all of their physical game sales in general.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 14-15)
I tried out the new Forza Motorsport and deleted it already. Back to playing Forza Horizon 5 and Starfield.
Re: Hands On: Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 Feels Like DLC Of The Nostalgic Kind
I was really disappointed with the last one, I'll just wait for this to hit Gamepass.
Re: Forza Motorsport Fan Bemoans The 'Non Stop Criticism' From The Game's Reddit Community
This game is a complete disaster IMO, the car leveling and upgrading system is a total mess and ruins the entire experience for me.
They can try to fight the criticism all they like, but don't be surprised when the userbase falls off.
Re: Forza Motorsport Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (October 10)
They really turned this game into a needlessly grindy experience.
Re: Robocop: Rogue City's PC Demo Gives Us High Hopes For The Full Xbox Release
I thought this game looked good when it was revealed, exactly the kind of game I can get into.
Re: Talking Point: One Month On From Launch, How Are You Feeling About Starfield?
I consider this my game of the generation so far. It's by far the most interesting thing I have seen come along that is exclusive to this generation of consoles. There is nothing else quite like it really, they took the Bethesda RPG formula and expanded it into space. It's both a great space exploration game as well as a great open world RPG. One of those games I can see myself playing for a very long time.
Re: Talking Point: Early Access Players, What Do You Think Of Forza Motorsport So Far?
@JokerBoy422 Yeah the current progression system is terrible, easily what brings down the game the most.
Re: After Almost Two Years, Next Week Could Be The Finale For Xbox's ActiBlizz Takeover
@abe_hikura Yup, but luckily that should all change now that the old management is out, getting replaced by Xbox management. It's why I have always been a fan of this deal, as someone who is a fan of their other IP's.
Re: After Almost Two Years, Next Week Could Be The Finale For Xbox's ActiBlizz Takeover
@Jaxx420 Eh I guess, but I still feel like they got a better chance than they did with Activision's old management. Heck they had a hit with THPS 1+2 and cancelled 3+4 just to stick the devs on COD duty. It was about as mismanaged as a property holder could become, all they cared about anymore was COD.
Re: Random: Seeing This Funky Text On Your Xbox? Here's What It Means
You know, I have seen stuff like that before and always wondered what it was.
Re: After Almost Two Years, Next Week Could Be The Finale For Xbox's ActiBlizz Takeover
I hope this will bring some life back to dormant Activision IP's now that it's no longer a publisher that needs to obsess over COD to please shareholders. As they're a part of Microsoft now it's all just another part of the Xbox family, the shareholders to please will no longer be focused on an individual franchise of theirs like that.
What I really want to see is a proper new Spyro that gets the Crash 4 treatment, one that ignores everything that happened after the original trilogy and just picks up from there staying true to it's roots.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Dev Explains Two Biggest Challenges Of Working With Xbox Series S
I get the challenges with Series S, but then again that should be no issue for any developer capable of releasing a game on PC, where you have to make your games accessable to a wide variety of specs, often times lower than ideal.
As for the Series S, I have heard too many people in markets like Brazil praising it's relative affordability to say anything negative about it. I think it's good for the industry to have a decent low-priced offering.
Re: Forza Motorsport A 'Pleasing Upgrade' Over Forza 7, Says Digital Foundry
@BBB Yeah I just know how quickly things can change. There wasn't really any microtransactions when GT7 launched either. I just don't have any trust in these games anymore, especially when online services become a big aspect.
Re: Review: Forza Motorsport - The Next Generation Of Racing Is Here
@iplaygamesnstuff For real. It's hilarious or simply sad how some people will try to aggressively shill for and defend this generation's practices when it's become so predatory with all of the online service and microtransaction schemes. Especially when half the highly praised games these days seem to be remakes and remasters.
Re: Forza Motorsport A 'Pleasing Upgrade' Over Forza 7, Says Digital Foundry
@OldGamer999 Yeah I'm sure you will hear a lot more about it as the user feedback starts to roll in. It was a similar deal with GT7, most critics and gaming sites were very quiet about the live service online requirements and microtransactions, but the user feedback was very vocal about it.
Re: Review: Forza Motorsport - The Next Generation Of Racing Is Here
@Kevw2006 Way to completely ignore the always-online requirement aspect just to push the sales pitch for live services lol. There is a good reason why live services have become so unpopular in the gaming community as of lately. A lot of people like to play their games whenever they like, not bound to their online service status.
Re: Forza Motorsport's Release Brings New Dynamic Background To Xbox Series X|S
@Mauzuri I also like how you can just pick a theme and stick with it, unlike the PS5 where it just has the one generic background and goes to whatever game is being highlighted. I have always used the original Xbox dynamic background.