I want them to do something with all the IPs they’ve acquired and just hoard and don’t even know they have, like the old Sierra games for one. The infocom text adventures are another example; they could easily release those on pc game pass.
Id like to see new stuff and new IPs. They have so many amazing developers with so many rpgs and adventure games under their belts. Not to mention they own tons of old IPs of the 80s and 90s like all the Sierra IPs.
Not bad. Kinda light on RPGs. But that’s how it rolls.
It's tough; I sometimes will buy stuff I want to support, which I did with Balatro. But if I'd waited, I'd have gotten it on Game Pass! Meanwhile, I was hoping for Animal Well, and no dice there
I hope lots of people will play Balatro here, though, which is also a great way to support both it, Game Pass, and more indie games on the service.
They should follow up with not just avowed 2, but with pillars of eternity 3 in full turn-based mode, and bill it as Microsoft’s version of baldurs gate 3. And do that, but in their own way. They have the exposure now, and Microsoft should support and invite this.
@Kaloudz with all the progress we’ve made with accessibility settings in games, you’d think an anti-seizure mode would be on people’s minds! It’s well known enough to have warnings, so why not more?
@Kaloudz jeez. Hang in there buddy. I saw that seizure warning and wondered wth that was about. Guess they weren’t kidding. That sucks! They need a no seizure mode.
Psyched for rogue trader, but I just finished a second playthrough of bg3, and I’m busy with avowed now. I might wait until the second rogue trader dlc drops, get the season pass, and have at it.
Too bad the season pass won’t be $15 again since the main game is on gp!
@Nintendo4Sonic They used to! Tons of Sega and Atlus games have been on there. But that might be over now. Sega seems to want to do their own subscription service (ick)
@Casco as I keep saying, it depends what you’re into. I really liked all the indies and RPGs that game pass was stacking for a while.
I have zero interest in call of duty and felt a shift once this became the call of duty service. Stalker launched buggy asf (and is another fps at its core). I’m sure I’ll enjoy avowed, but it’s not quite what I’d hoped. Indy was fine, but I’m not as wild about it as some are.
Like I said it depends what a person is into. I came into GPU when for whatever reason it was bringing endless indies and a lot of RPGs. There was a lot more variety.
@awp69 The last two years with GPU have been pretty amazing. This year has been weak for me personally so far. Citizen Sleeper 2 is great. And I'll probably like Avowed, but a lot of the games you list are kinda mid (including Avowed in some opinions).
I might even like Atomfall, but it's not my usual preferred genre (more FPS...), and it could turn out to be pretty mid too. I appreciate the variety, but when there are so many great games, it's hard to devote time to stuff that isn't as great.
@Kaloudz Yeah, if it's stuff you're interested in. There are definitely a few I've got my eye on, but it's not like it was in past years for me.
Other people are probably happier than they were in past years. The shift has definitely been away from more niche/indie/Japanese stuff, as we've shifted toward CoD and more stuff along those lines.
Hope fully there's a lot more coming in the pipeline that aren't announced yet.
A lot of the games have also been kind of mid lately. I have no issue with that, if it's something I'm interested in, but if I'm already not interested, and it turns out mid besides, I play other stuff, and Game Pass feels a bit devalued in my mind.
The problem with first-party is there isn't enough variety. They have to pad it out somehow, either like they're doing with a lot of Sega/Atlus/indie, or something else. They need Japanese games, and they need nerdy Japanese games, not just Ninja Gaiden.
I think they're doing their best and are doing well. Whether it's sustainable, I don't know! Game Pass is their focus though.
They'll keep improving, but it's definitely been weird since it became a call of duty machine. It's a fine line, but they have to continue courting many different niches at the same time as they court the magical "mainstream" that everyone wants.
@Kaloudz It's been slower and has been pretty focused on more mainstream stuff, far less indie, plus a lot of bargain bin AAA (Far Cry comes to mind). It comes and goes in waves, I realize, but lately, the selection has been like if a random friend's 13 year-old brother was picking the games.
It’ll be an AI-focused machine, remote AI piped to the user from Microsoft’s (potentially nuclear-powered) AI centers. It sounds like fiction, but it’s reality.
Weird to see yakuza leaving. They no longer launch on gpu either. Seems like sega is less focused on game pass. I still need to play yakuza 7, so maybe I’d better get on that…
They both look excellent and promising. I’d rather they take all the time they need to be good. We don’t need more mediocre “okay” titles on game pass. Why waste your gaming time? These can both be great.
Endless growth and aggressive growth, along with absurd overspending, are literally the problems with the industry, but this is the only company I’ve ever heard that actually says so.
I wish more of these were on game pass. It feels like there are less indies on game pass lately, and more 5yo AAA/AA games instead that you could just buy on sale for $5
There’s no way this is coming out in 2025. Can’t tell that to any other publishers tho, so we still have a gaping hole for like May onward since no one will announce anything.
Sometimes I wonder if GTA is even a net positive for the industry anymore. Meanwhile rockstar is too focused on their online cash cow mode to even do expansion packs. Or games.
@jFug these people see “wokeness” everywhere because they want to stay in a closed off little safe zone. There are lists rating retro games on their “wokeness” level.
@Kaloudz I'm cautiously optimistic. I thought the original game would be an absolute, steaming dumpster fire in Siberia on a winter day, so they've already impressed me! I liked their Mad Max game, but for some reason I still thought this one would absolutely collapse like a colon full of American fried food. And I would say I found it 90% enjoyable, other than the obnoxious Gotham Knights Destiny 2 Diablo loot system, which I suppose they'll keep. I even liked the combat, which could have, again, been an utter abomination.
That said, by the end of the game, it was so checklisty that I almost killed myself. Again, maybe a me problem.
Maybe the DLC will just tune things up and give us another game-sized thing, as you said. If it's just some added endgame content or whatever, I can't imagine bothering personally. It's gotta be an Erd Tree type of deal...
@Kaloudz that's a thought. To be fair, I would probably be pretty interested in an "erd tree" style expansion pack vs "DLC," and maybe that's what they're doing, and like you said, dovetailing that into the sequel somehow; but as cool as the game was, I don't know if I trust them like I'd trust FromSoft to get it right! I'm scared it's just gonna be MORE LOOT and not much more game. Maybe my fault for getting too into the loot. It's like a damn slot machine. can't help myself.
@Kaloudz I think they'd kind of have to reinvent the wheel, too, but maybe that's their intention. I just can't picture the leveling and loot-gathering scaling any further. It was already a lot.
It was definitely a fun game though. I'm looking forward to a sequel. Just not so sure about DLC!
@Kaloudz yeah I can’t even imagine a late game expansion. It was such a loot fest already. More useless loot?? If it was just a totally new side campaign I’d be in. But in that case you’d think they’d just save it for a new game. They had said no dlc at one point too.
If your game can’t be considered a success with 1.5 million copies sold, you are spending too much money making your game. AAA needs to die. Make cheaper, uglier, better, more creative games.
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Re: 'Terminator 2D: No Fate' Announced For Xbox, And It's Out This September
Wish we could have it on game pass!
Re: BioWare Co-Founder Recalls 'Moronic' Xbox Advice That Potentially Ruined A Franchise
I guess that probably was bad advice. But BioWare was certainly plenty good at screwing their own stuff up from the beginning too.
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Would You Love To See Relisted This Year?
I want them to do something with all the IPs they’ve acquired and just hoard and don’t even know they have, like the old Sierra games for one. The infocom text adventures are another example; they could easily release those on pc game pass.
Re: Xbox Says It's Got A 'Bunch Of Stuff' It Hasn't Even Announced Yet
Id like to see new stuff and new IPs. They have so many amazing developers with so many rpgs and adventure games under their belts. Not to mention they own tons of old IPs of the 80s and 90s like all the Sierra IPs.
Re: Two Xbox Game Pass Titles Get New Release Dates At Annapurna Showcase 2025
They all look interesting. I’ve had my eye on wheel world for a while.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The February 2025 Xbox Indie Showcase?
I really enjoyed the first Moonlighter as well and am happy to see the sequel coming to Game Pass.
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase (February 2025): Date, Start Times, And What To Expect
It was pretty cringe.
Re: Roundup: All The Reveals From February 2025's Xbox Indie Showcase
Not bad. Kinda light on RPGs. But that’s how it rolls.
It's tough; I sometimes will buy stuff I want to support, which I did with Balatro. But if I'd waited, I'd have gotten it on Game Pass! Meanwhile, I was hoping for Animal Well, and no dice there
I hope lots of people will play Balatro here, though, which is also a great way to support both it, Game Pass, and more indie games on the service.
Re: Xbox RPG Avowed Seemingly Sold Well Despite Being In Game Pass
They should follow up with not just avowed 2, but with pillars of eternity 3 in full turn-based mode, and bill it as Microsoft’s version of baldurs gate 3. And do that, but in their own way. They have the exposure now, and Microsoft should support and invite this.
Re: 'Wizard101' Dev Explains Why Console Release Won't Include Xbox Game Pass
Kind of irrelevant to some extent given it’s a free to play family friendly mmo…
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 22-23)
@Kaloudz with all the progress we’ve made with accessibility settings in games, you’d think an anti-seizure mode would be on people’s minds! It’s well known enough to have warnings, so why not more?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 22-23)
@Kaloudz jeez. Hang in there buddy. I saw that seizure warning and wondered wth that was about. Guess they weren’t kidding. That sucks! They need a no seizure mode.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 22-23)
Avowed has really exceeded my expectations. It reminds me of how RPGs used to be in a lot of ways.
I’m also finishing up thirsty suitors, which has been charming and endearing, and moving on to dungeons of hinterberg.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Appears To Be Increasing Its Prices For Xbox Game Pass
That’s a big increase. 17k is nearly all the points I make in a month.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader On Xbox Game Pass?
owlcats stuff is up there with some of the best CRPGs of all time. Other than larian there aren’t many who can compete.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Update 3 Now Live On Xbox
The first two areas were great, but the third area was a mess. Hope it’s fixed now. Lucky for people who’ve held off!
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (February 20)
Psyched for rogue trader, but I just finished a second playthrough of bg3, and I’m busy with avowed now. I might wait until the second rogue trader dlc drops, get the season pass, and have at it.
Too bad the season pass won’t be $15 again since the main game is on gp!
Re: Xbox Exec Thanks Fans For Helping Avowed Go Number 1 On Steam
Happy to see success for obsidian and for an rpg. I wish it would result in some more traditional rpgs too.
No small feat for avowed to sell so well since it’s on game pass too. I’d rather buy a month of game pass than a full game personally!
Re: Avowed Launch Update Now Live For Xbox, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Wow. That fixes a lot of stuff. Guess the people who paid to play early got to be beta testers.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
They’re too cool for game pass now I guess.
If I have to pay real money (or rewards points!), I’ll wait for the mainline, turn-based games. I’d have played this on game pass tho.
Re: Talking Point: Five Years On, Would You Want To See A Gears Tactics 2?
It’s the only gears game I’ve ever liked. They did a good job
Re: Nine Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Late February 2025
@Nintendo4Sonic They used to! Tons of Sega and Atlus games have been on there. But that might be over now. Sega seems to want to do their own subscription service (ick)
Re: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Lost Records: Bloom & Rage
I was really hoping to see it on game pass. I’d love to support it, but I’ll have to wait for a sale.
Re: These Three Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (February 20-25)
Damn. Now the rogue trader season pass won’t ever go on sale again tho. Shoulda got it for $15!
Re: These Three Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (February 20-25)
Holy moly! Rogue trader is a big deal. My opinion of game pass in 2025 just changed with a single title 😂 Now I gotta figure out when to play it.
Re: After 27 Years, 'Fantasy Life' Developer Prepares To Publish First Ever Xbox Game
Really glad to see this on Xbox. I wish they’d publish deca police multiplatform as well—I’d buy that one immediately
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In March 2025 So Far
@Casco as I keep saying, it depends what you’re into. I really liked all the indies and RPGs that game pass was stacking for a while.
I have zero interest in call of duty and felt a shift once this became the call of duty service. Stalker launched buggy asf (and is another fps at its core). I’m sure I’ll enjoy avowed, but it’s not quite what I’d hoped. Indy was fine, but I’m not as wild about it as some are.
Like I said it depends what a person is into. I came into GPU when for whatever reason it was bringing endless indies and a lot of RPGs. There was a lot more variety.
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In March 2025 So Far
@awp69 The last two years with GPU have been pretty amazing. This year has been weak for me personally so far. Citizen Sleeper 2 is great. And I'll probably like Avowed, but a lot of the games you list are kinda mid (including Avowed in some opinions).
I might even like Atomfall, but it's not my usual preferred genre (more FPS...), and it could turn out to be pretty mid too. I appreciate the variety, but when there are so many great games, it's hard to devote time to stuff that isn't as great.
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In March 2025 So Far
@Kaloudz Yeah, if it's stuff you're interested in. There are definitely a few I've got my eye on, but it's not like it was in past years for me.
Other people are probably happier than they were in past years. The shift has definitely been away from more niche/indie/Japanese stuff, as we've shifted toward CoD and more stuff along those lines.
Hope fully there's a lot more coming in the pipeline that aren't announced yet.
A lot of the games have also been kind of mid lately. I have no issue with that, if it's something I'm interested in, but if I'm already not interested, and it turns out mid besides, I play other stuff, and Game Pass feels a bit devalued in my mind.
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In March 2025 So Far
@IOI Yeah, it all changed with the buyout...
The problem with first-party is there isn't enough variety. They have to pad it out somehow, either like they're doing with a lot of Sega/Atlus/indie, or something else. They need Japanese games, and they need nerdy Japanese games, not just Ninja Gaiden.
I think they're doing their best and are doing well. Whether it's sustainable, I don't know! Game Pass is their focus though.
They'll keep improving, but it's definitely been weird since it became a call of duty machine. It's a fine line, but they have to continue courting many different niches at the same time as they court the magical "mainstream" that everyone wants.
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In March 2025 So Far
@Kaloudz It's been slower and has been pretty focused on more mainstream stuff, far less indie, plus a lot of bargain bin AAA (Far Cry comes to mind). It comes and goes in waves, I realize, but lately, the selection has been like if a random friend's 13 year-old brother was picking the games.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says Series X|S Successor Has Been 'Fully Approved' By Microsoft
It’ll be an AI-focused machine, remote AI piped to the user from Microsoft’s (potentially nuclear-powered) AI centers. It sounds like fiction, but it’s reality.
Re: Eight Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Late February 2025
Weird to see yakuza leaving. They no longer launch on gpu either. Seems like sega is less focused on game pass. I still need to play yakuza 7, so maybe I’d better get on that…
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In March 2025 So Far
They’re leaning way too hard on first party titles.
PS+ gets lost records. Not to mention it had animal well.
Game Pass meanwhile: …
Re: Two Xbox Game Pass Titles Have Received Significant Delays This Week
They both look excellent and promising. I’d rather they take all the time they need to be good. We don’t need more mediocre “okay” titles on game pass. Why waste your gaming time? These can both be great.
Re: Xbox Studio Obsidian Says 'Not Trying To Grow Aggressively' Will Keep It Going For Decades
Endless growth and aggressive growth, along with absurd overspending, are literally the problems with the industry, but this is the only company I’ve ever heard that actually says so.
Re: Avowed Review Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think So Far
Depressing to see obsidian, known for narrative and mechanics, make a very simplistic action game that de-emphasizes both.
Re: Two Games Announced For Xbox Game Pass Following PlayStation's State Of Play Event
Oh boy, finally a survival crafter…
I’ll def give blue prince a try tho!
Re: 10 Xbox Indie Games To Look Out For In February 2025
I wish more of these were on game pass. It feels like there are less indies on game pass lately, and more 5yo AAA/AA games instead that you could just buy on sale for $5
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From February 2025's State Of Play
Musta been a lame show. Shinobi sounds interesting!
Digimon Story Time heh
Re: Talking Point: Are You Buying Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?
The gold edition of the original game had frequently been like $3 on sale. Now it goes on sale for $30. Kinda crap.
Anyway I’ll be busy with avowed.
Re: GTA 6 For Xbox Series X|S Is Still Targeting A 'Fall' 2025 Release
There’s no way this is coming out in 2025. Can’t tell that to any other publishers tho, so we still have a gaping hole for like May onward since no one will announce anything.
Sometimes I wonder if GTA is even a net positive for the industry anymore. Meanwhile rockstar is too focused on their online cash cow mode to even do expansion packs. Or games.
Re: GTA 6 For Xbox Series X|S Is Still Targeting A 'Fall' 2025 Release
@jFug these people see “wokeness” everywhere because they want to stay in a closed off little safe zone. There are lists rating retro games on their “wokeness” level.
Re: Xbox Pledges Support For 'iicon', A New Industry Event From The Organiser Of E3
iicon is kind of a ccrappy nname
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In March 2025
I wish they’d announce these things a month ahead instead of 13 days.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy 2, Batman Arkham Sequel Detailed In Revealing Warner Bros. Report
@Kaloudz I'm cautiously optimistic. I thought the original game would be an absolute, steaming dumpster fire in Siberia on a winter day, so they've already impressed me! I liked their Mad Max game, but for some reason I still thought this one would absolutely collapse like a colon full of American fried food. And I would say I found it 90% enjoyable, other than the obnoxious Gotham Knights Destiny 2 Diablo loot system, which I suppose they'll keep. I even liked the combat, which could have, again, been an utter abomination.
That said, by the end of the game, it was so checklisty that I almost killed myself. Again, maybe a me problem.
Maybe the DLC will just tune things up and give us another game-sized thing, as you said. If it's just some added endgame content or whatever, I can't imagine bothering personally. It's gotta be an Erd Tree type of deal...
Re: Hogwarts Legacy 2, Batman Arkham Sequel Detailed In Revealing Warner Bros. Report
@Kaloudz that's a thought. To be fair, I would probably be pretty interested in an "erd tree" style expansion pack vs "DLC," and maybe that's what they're doing, and like you said, dovetailing that into the sequel somehow; but as cool as the game was, I don't know if I trust them like I'd trust FromSoft to get it right! I'm scared it's just gonna be MORE LOOT and not much more game. Maybe my fault for getting too into the loot. It's like a damn slot machine. can't help myself.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy 2, Batman Arkham Sequel Detailed In Revealing Warner Bros. Report
@Kaloudz I think they'd kind of have to reinvent the wheel, too, but maybe that's their intention. I just can't picture the leveling and loot-gathering scaling any further. It was already a lot.
It was definitely a fun game though. I'm looking forward to a sequel. Just not so sure about DLC!
Re: Hogwarts Legacy 2, Batman Arkham Sequel Detailed In Revealing Warner Bros. Report
@Kaloudz yeah I can’t even imagine a late game expansion. It was such a loot fest already. More useless loot?? If it was just a totally new side campaign I’d be in. But in that case you’d think they’d just save it for a new game. They had said no dlc at one point too.
Re: EA Seems To Think That Live Service Would Have Helped Xbox RPG Dragon Age: The Veilguard
If your game can’t be considered a success with 1.5 million copies sold, you are spending too much money making your game. AAA needs to die. Make cheaper, uglier, better, more creative games.