electrolite77

This actually has potential. Get the likes of Daytona, Outrun 2006/Online, Afterburner Climax and Jet Set Radio back on there and I’m listening.

Make it cross platform with the Ages games on the Switch and I’m taking notes.

Offer it with working Saturn and System 3/Model 3 emulators and I’m throwing money at you, Sega

@RiverGenie

That was the issue, thanks.

@OldGamer999

I was looking at the wrong version. The free one is the Deluxe version

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/store/plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare-2-deluxe-edition/BWNN9M15W9V9/0001

Showing as £2.99 for me 😔

Quality analysis. Look at what happened last time and predict the same again.

Similar percentage to Sony though from a smaller number in 2023. Could be this gen has peaked sales wise already. Ironically without ever really getting going in terms of games.

@Major_Player

The 360 was a very long time ago in a different industry. It isn’t 2007. Long past time to move on.

Of course I care more about games than brand loyalty. Only a fool would think differently. Brand loyalty is marketing BS perpetuated by multinationals who only exist to take your money.

The only way Xbox can continue to exist is with Consoles as part of a multiplatform strategy. Sorry if that doesn’t fit with Console Warrior nonsense but it’s reality. That’s the only future for the ‘brand.’

@Major_Player

Xbox is bringing their games to more platforms rather than keeping them exclusive. Hard to see anything more Gamer friendly than that.

@Major_Player

They’re a business. They exist to make money. Exactly the same as Sony, Nintendo, EA, Apple and all the others.

@OldGamer999

If you don’t believe the times when they’ve said they’re releasing a new system so far why would saying it again matter?

@OldGamer999

They’ve already said twice that they’re releasing another Console

@HonestHick

Spot on. That’s the future, especially as making good games gets more and more expensive.

Doesn’t mean a lot really. We know most Xbox games in the future will be on other formats eventually. Launching first and into GP then taking full price sales on other platforms is likely to be very profitable.

Timed exclusive could mean launching on other Consoles three months after Xbox, or 6 months, or 3 years depending on the game. Hardware may drop off a bit but it’s still a $10 billion annual business for them, plus third party licensing fees, peripherals etc.It isn’t going anywhere.

Multi platform game gets multiplatform sequel. No big surprise there. I don’t care what platforms it’s on, my enjoyment or otherwise of this game or any other will not be affected by whether people with different game systems can play it or not. I actually struggle to believe that any functioning adult gets worked up about exclusivity in 2024.

Seriously people?! It’s an opinion. It’s subjective.

It’s amazing this has to be said, it’s pretty clear that Consoles are part of their ecosystem and contribute heftily to their Gaming revenues. It’s hard to see any benefit to them from dropping hardware, and there are constant rumours they have more on the way.

@SleeplessKnight

Because of Microsoft machine gunning themselves in the foot in 2013. It certainly wasn’t exclusives that were pushing the PS4 in 2014, and 2015 only had Bloodborne. They committed commercial suicide at the worst possible time.

Definitely makes sense within their strategy. Port some older games to create extra revenue streams and interest in those games. Launch newer ones first on Xbox/PC. The cost of developing AAA games now makes it impossible to keep them on one platform, a problem that will only get more impactful in the future.

This is an obvious choice as a PC game that was on PS2 long before Xbox anyway. Can’t see any need for fanboy upset over this one.

Not sure a pure handheld system would be a great idea but a Switch competitor would. Nintendo have hit the sweet spot of practicality that’s allowed them to appeal to all age groups, especially adults (where the money is) who relish being able to jump between handheld and home usage. If they can get a Series S into that form factor with decent battery life and pricing it could be a real winner.

@TheEstablishment

Good luck. Some people absolutely can’t get their head around what MS is doing or the way Gaming is heading. They’re still stuck to their boxes and seem to think Hardware not being the sole focus for Xbox means Xbox Consoles are dead and Microsoft treats Console gamers badly and so on and so forth

Wow, fair play to the devs. Phenomenal job.

@OldGamer999

I’m not sure the two things are connected very much

Seems really obvious but the original Halo on the OG Xbox. Forza Horizon 4 is nice with all the leaves. The recent Flight Simulator is good.

@Medic_alert

Agreed, beautiful design. Just looked classy somehow.

The One X really was a lovely system

Only played this a couple of years ago as part of MCC and loved it. Superb game.

Flight Sim, Indiana Jones and Avowed for me. Might give COD and Stalker 2 a try as well

@PsBoxSwitchOwner

Sony IIRC reported that they weren’t making a loss on PS5 hardware but it wasn’t clear whether that was just related to hardware or the overall cost including distribution, marketing R&D etc. When Spencer talked about Xbox taking a loss he was including all that (though it’s hard to see them spending much on marketing).

That’s standard though and has been through the history of the industry. The platform holder takes a loss but looks to make it back on game sales, third party licensing fees, peripheral sales, subscriptions etc. Even losing money on hardware, having 50-60 million people in the ecosystem is a massive business.

When you see the figures like this it’s very odd that some people think Xbox will be quitting Consoles. An average of 7 million systems a year tied into a wider ecosystem is a very viable business.

Yeah they should split it. For all that a few hysterics whine about the Series S there’s not even that many games where you would see much difference in such a listing. But they should definitely give consumers the correct information.

@SleeplessKnight

I agree, that’s a fair summary. I’ve also got a Series S for my son and that’s hugely impressive for its price. Really hoping these rumours of a handheld with similar power level are true.

The higher ups at my company don’t tell me what the strategy is either TBF. Though I think the overarching strategy has been clear for a while.

@GADG3Tx87

This is what politicians do. With Sony still under fire for Concord and the PS5 Pro announcement generally going down like a bucket of cold sick it’s a good time for XBox to ‘bury some bad news.’

Anyone who thinks Xbox should leave the Console market, here’s your future

@BrandNewOldSchool

I’m same as you, I’ve been around since the 8-bit Computer days and see Game Pass as great value. People are always going to be disappointed at price rises and getting less return for their spend but it’s still a very good deal. The variety is brilliant, it has loads of big hitters and a smattering of interesting Indie games too. As someone who jumps around (in recent months I’ve played some Jedi Survivor, Doom Eternal, Hellblade 2, Forza, FC 24, Yakuza and Starfield) it’s a great value proposition.

The whole thing is very odd. The current systems don’t feel anywhere near maxed out yet they’re trying to sell a high ended option without seemingly a clear understanding of what it will offer.

The upgrades last gen made perfect sense given the uptake of 4K TVs at that time and the XB1 especially being pretty weak-XB1X was a brilliant upgrade.

Sony don’t exactly have Xbox snapping at their heels either so it’s not like they have market share to protect.

I just don’t get it.

@NEStalgia

😆 In my case, not buying a £200 Controller helped

I’d be really disappointed if Xbox solely targeted blockbusters. One of the best things about their recent output has been interesting stuff like Pentiment, Hifi Rush, Grounded and Gears Tactics

The game released in 2005 so the pitch would have been probably 2003 or 2004. Before the Wii, Kinect, Move etc and around the time of tentative experiments with plastic plug ins like the Eye Toy and Donkey Konga. Not that much of a surprise they didn’t see the potential for success. Not sure many of us would.

Two.

Hundred.

Pounds.

Doesn’t this run badly on PS5? Fair play to MS for catching the issue during certification

@OldGamer999

Keeping making Consoles isn’t a difficult decision for them at all. That’s why they’ve been very clear that they’re carrying on making hardware. They’re a key part of their strategy. They pull in Game Pass subscribers, they facilitate licensing fees from third parties which is a big revenue stream, they generate peripheral sales, they tie people into the ecosystem through Online play. Absolute no brainier.

Probably Starfield.

Not read the comments yet but I bet there’s some top quality temper tantrums being thrown.

Great games and the remasters are excellent. I already have the collection on Switch but it’s a very welcome addition to Game Pass.

@GuyinPA75

“ Why isn't EVERY publisher putting EVERY game on indie...I mean game pass, then?”

Nobody ever said that would happen. Different games, different business models, different publishers, some it will work for and some it won’t.

Rational for him. Their main revenue stream is basically a subscription anyway. As was obvious from day 1, Gamepass will work really well for some publishers and business models, and not for others.

A portable Series S would be brilliant. Thousands of games able to run straight away.

@Friendly

The Tweet is a third party quoting Corden. He never mentions ‘add on’

@GuyinPA75

They want subscribers and sales, I thought that was pretty obvious by now.

“ majority of games on Game Pass are level of quality of game boy games”

I genuinely snorted at that. Well played.

So in the US Xbox Console sales aren’t as atrocious as some media narrative’s would have you believe.

Thats also not a bad return for a niche game like Hellblade 2, given it was on Game Pass as well.