
We're not even four years into the current console generation yet, but plenty of rumours about what's next for Xbox hardware have already been circulating in recent months. Some sort of handheld console has been heavily rumoured, and a new comment from Windows Central's Jez Corden sheds light on a potential route that Microsoft could take.
Speaking on the Xbox Two podcast, Corden reckons that Microsoft will go into next-gen with a handheld console and a "Series X successor" - hinting that a portable console could effectively be the replacement for Xbox Series S.
Here's a clip showing this bit of chatter:
During that same podcast episode, Corden also 'predicted' that these two consoles would arrive alongside "the end of the paywall for premium multiplayer games", although this was very much speculation more than anything else. We've heard that rumour before although it's never come to anything, but with Microsoft's continued tweaking of Xbox Game Pass, who knows where we'll end up in a few years' time.
As we always say with this sort of thing, it's all just rumoured information for now and shouldn't be taken as fact until we hear from Xbox. With the team's ever-shifting direction at the moment, these kinds of plans seem even more up in the air than usual, so we'd wait for official confirmation on their next-gen strategy before making any bets on the future.
Do you think another two-console approach is likely? Tell us your thoughts on this rumour down below.
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Given how quickly the decision-makers over at Microsoft/XBox change their minds, you'd even have to take this with a big grain of salt if Microsoft confirmed it themselves. A lot can happen until then and they are definitely not doing much to make people feel "safe" about the future of the ecosystem.
So wouldn’t this just be a streaming device then? If it’s going to play games natively, then fair enough but are we really saying that we will have to spend £450 on a console and then another £300 or so for a handheld. We can already do that anyway with so many handheld devices.
If it has a dock that allows play on TV then maybe I would buy just the handheld but this seems yet another odd way for Xbox to go about things.
We know that there are two consoles in development, it is an open secret, one "very powerful" announced by Sarah Bond, and the other a portable one that Phil Spencer has mentioned numerous times.
I think that Jez is not giving any new information, he is just taking what we already know to give a personal conclusion.
I think the rumours will prove to be true. They have been circulating for so long, and being repeated so often, that it is difficult not to believe the strategy exists.
I believe the handheld will be a dockable streaming device with no native capability, and the Series X successor will all but be a PC, possibly costing in the region of £700/$700, maybe even more in order to be a true leap in performance that Bond suggested. I'd be surprised if it cost as much as £1000/$1000 as I think that is a ceiling too high for most console gamers, though we keep hearing that hardware is not the focus of Xbox, so it's not out of the question.
The question then is whether the neXt box will be upgradable or not, as I do firmly believe that this will be the last Xbox 'console' that Microsoft will make...
I do think that there is still the 'need' for an Xbox Console despite the lack of sales (relative to competition) and the fact a Console isn't necessary or required to play MS games.
Not everyone wants to choose between streaming and a 'PC' to play games and some will prefer to play on a Console because it suits their budget and/or ease of use. Even 4yrs on, you'd find it tricky to build a PC for the cost of a Series X and/or maybe wouldn't know how to or even want to assemble one.
I know I have said that the console is not necessary as its not required to bring people into Game Pass or the 'Xbox' Ecosystem, that people with PC's or even a mobile phone can choose not to 'buy' a Console and still play 'Xbox', but that is quite different.
There is quite a difference between having to make a 'Console' in order to get people into your ecosystem and/or 'forcing' gamers to play on Console as that is the 'ONLY' option for playing your games and choosing to make one because enough of those Gamers would prefer to play on a 'Console' even though other options exist (PC/Cloud) as it caters to 'consumer' choice.
I may not need to buy the 'next' Xbox because I choose to play on my PC for example, but despite owning a PC, I may choose to buy it because of the ease of use for example...
Considering you can buy a Handheld PC with all the games and emulation PC offers for around the cost of a Series X, a Handheld Xbox with far fewer games and potentially, a $75 a year 'Online' fee on top, maybe would be a difficult sell. They could make a Surface Handheld PC with an 'Xbox' style UI to compete with other handheld devices...
To add, these aren't rumours, it was just Jez speculating on the podcast.
That’s a bummer if true. I thought Phil said earlier that it would be a true handheld device not requiring a console.
Having it as a standalone replacement to the S is the logical path to take. The series S was a great idea and I think they need that two tier approach of power and affordable next time as well. Adding portability to the S makes it even more appealing.
@BacklogBrad it’s not a two tier approach though. You apparently need the main console in order to play anything on the handheld. Just as is the case with the Sony Portal.
Rubbish if true.
@Savage_Joe at this point in time it’s just speculation. It could quite easily be anything from a “switch”, a “Wii u”, a “steam deck” or even a “PlayStation portal.”
The Wii u was clunky and hardly portable - I had one for about 8 months before trading it. By far the worst Nintendo console I’ve ever owned.
If this portable system comes to pass, I doubt it will be anything like a Wii u. I would expect something more like the steam deck or ROG ally. The PlayStation portal also seems to have sold surprisingly well so I wouldn’t rule out something similar - although personally I’d be very disappointed if MS went that route.
If it’s not native then what’s the point? It won’t do anything we can’t already do? If it is true then Xbox will be making yet another massive cock up
An add on? Like the Playstation portal?
Thats just goofy. I can do that with my phone. I'd rather it be able to be used fully stand alone, off the cloud, if they're wanting to drop a handheld.
@MjJmediablogger precisely. Streaming isn't something we can't already do on any number of devices we already own, be it phones, tablets, Fire sticks... Hell, with minimal effort I got Xbox Cloud Gaming working on Steam Deck by following a guide, a device with no native support for the service. A streaming-only Xbox handheld makes zero sense.
I think people are wildly misinterpreting the quote. Xbox pessimism has reached a new level lol. The comments are filled with people talking about a "dockable streaming device"? Nothing in the above talked about a streaming device. It's talking about what we already speculated/had confirmed, there will be 2 consoles, a handheld (portable S) and a power console. Nothing here changes that expectation.
Phil, when asked about that "hypothetical" handheld, as to if they were to do such a thing would it be native or streaming, and he confirmed it would be native - and it has also been compared to Ally etc by Phil in "hypothetical" conversations.
Yeah, there's nothing to trust about what Phil says these days, but when pointedly asked if the hypothetical XB handheld would be streaming or native and he answers native...it kinda answers that. Plus with Fire Stick and the like there's not a purpose to a handheld streaming WiiU.
While we know nothing for certain, it's basically more or less already been confirmed the handheld exists, and plays games natively. What we don't know is what games it plays natively or how it slots into the hardware stack. What we can assume is it's probably a WoA Snapdragon based Ally-like PC that will rely on MS's proprietary AI up-scaling, will probably be less powerful than Ally depending on when it launches, but will probably get gobs more battery than Ally X.
I think people are misinterpereting "add-on" - to mean "Portal-like peripheral". In context of the quote it's saying it's a stand alone device, not a hybrid dockable." I.E. The quote is trying to say it's 2 consoles, not a Switch like dockable hybrid single console. It's not trying to say it's a streaming accessory for XSY.
This is Xbox, they'll find some way to ruin it. They have the Brown Midas Touch. But I think it's still a sure bet it's a native handheld.
Still enjoying this gen all this will only be relevant in a couple years time!
@Friendly I don't think that is what jez is hinting at.
It should be a standalone replacement for the S. Dockable handheld with native games. I seriously doubt it will be comparable to the PS portal.
@NEStalgia
I can't imagine why 😂
@NEStalgia the quote is ‘add-on’, which means you need the main console too. That’s not a misinterpretation, right?
We’ll see though, it’s all just speculation. I have lost a lot of faith into corporate Microsoft delivering fun games. It all feels way too businessy for my taste.
@BacklogBrad it should, i agree. But the twitter message states ‘add-on’. Doesn’t feel like a standalone version of the console to me.
@Friendly but the video clip of the podcast does not mention anything about it being add on. I went to the podcast and listened to that whole portion and jez only ever mentions it as a replacement for the series S, he never uses the words add-on. He specifies that the series x successor and the handheld will be two separate things. That doesn't sound like an add on to me.
I'm taking that as a bad interpretation from the Twitter user.
@Friendly
The Tweet is a third party quoting Corden. He never mentions ‘add on’
@Friendly I think that's just a loose wording. It explicitly says stand alone, not a hybrid. The "add-on" verbiage in context doesn't appear to be a literal statement that it's a console peripheral, it means it's not "the console itself" (I.E. not a setup where the handheld is the next Xbox with a powerful dock, it's a separate device from the console.) Also (I didn't watch the original video) but as others are saying the word "add-on" wasn't from the original source.
Whatever will or won't become of Xbox, or even the next main console, I think it's more or less a given that a stand alone native playing handheld is going to happen, along with or before the next console.
@BacklogBrad @electrolite77 i see, thank you for elaborating. I get my hopes up a little. Would’ve bought a handheld gamepass machine in a heartbeat.
If Xbox really, truly, want to have a mobile device, and Xbox really, truly, want it to succeed, it MUST to go the way of hybrid like the Nintendo Switch.
The Xbox brand name and brand recognition is really at an all time low. Putting that much pressure on a dedicated handheld and wanting it to succeed is asking too much in this current Xbox climate.
@MjJmediablogger Well no one is forcing anyone to buy vanity products for hobbies. Personally I prefer a stand alone console. As handheld devices will always be behind current console or PC based hardware due to current manufacturing capabilities. If we really do get a traditional xbox along with a handheld, it will be interesting for Microsoft. I just hope we get another Xbox generation at this point that leverages all of Microsoft studios properly with good first party content to keep their competitors on edge.
Considering how many people say the Series S holds the Series X back what will a handheld do???
@Friendly I'm sure Xbox would just make an official controller attachment for your mobile phone than a Sony Portal device.
@NEStalgia I know what you mean. I call it the Reverse Midas Touch, but ‘Brown Midas Touch’ made me laugh
If done right, MS could definitely change the market with a portable. I'd certainly love a native portable over my Steam deck.
But now what will all the "sky is falling" crowd freak out over? Not only do we have multiple sources confirming a new next gen console but also a portable? So much for MS abandoning consoles. 😂
What makes anyone think an xbox handheld would actually sell? I just don't see it. Especially with the Switch 2 around the corner.
It seems that Vert is finally getting a CPU candidate. I would which of the Neptunia games this CPU candidate will first appear the 24th or 25th.
@themightyant
Nothing much, just like the Steam Deck or the Switch 2.
Of course one can not take away anything from or underestimate the Series S bashing crowd. They'll carry on as usual 😁.
As long as the new home hardware is full power under the tv no cloud or tricks required device then that is great.
Keep it simple and powerful and bring the big AAA games. Don’t over complicate it.
I would love an xbox handheld tbh.
@themightyant I figure things will change from parity clauses to the handheld just not running more demanding games well as that's what is expected on the PC side of things.
@Neither_scene
Better a Wii U than a PS Portal.
I doubt the handheld will be an addon that depends on a top end home console to work. That’s very far from a Series S replacement given the cost outlay. Is that adding much that can’t be done with current streaming from a Series X to a phone or other device (including true handhelds like a Steamdeck).
Also assume MS will want to target portable play that extends beyond one’s home network, and hopefully that’s not achieved purely via cloud streaming.
So like a MS Portal then and not running games natively?
A portable Series S would be brilliant. Thousands of games able to run straight away.
Dammit.....
.......one of each, please.
@NEStalgia Phil has already said he wants a native handheld that is a portable Xbox from the Ui, to the achievements and friends list and everything. I think that was a good look at how this thing will be and anyone thinking it will just be a portal clone hasn’t been listening. He likes the Asus handheld just not the Ui, that was his vision for what he wants it to be. Funny to hear me say i have confidence in anything MS but i think they get the handheld right. Now the Series X2 i am calling it for now, that is where they need to look at past mistakes and drive home a much better name, branding launch titles, year 1-2 titles and the sort. If they can do that then we have the winning formula for those wanting to be in the Xbox ecosystem which is me and here we go again put the dang gyro and better tech into the controllers. Hall effect Elite 3. No more messing around, who do you think you are Scuf HHAHA
@HonestHick The hurdle MS really faces is image. I'm confident they can make great hardware, they always make great hardware. Ironically it's the software that usually lets it down, bad policy, and ultimately, the Xbox brand, in the broader gaming market is just associated with "fail" at this point. The mass casuals don't know better, but they do know "PS is what everyone buys", and the Switch market won't change. How does MS change their image from the in the know gaming market from "failure"? It's going to take more than a reboot and a soft launch. They need to indicate they're a totally different organization. But the best they can seem to do is "we're kinda sorta Activision now?"
@NEStalgia i agree with that 1000%, image is a huge problem at the moment for Xbox.which in gaming is hard to change at times. Like you said even more so with the casuals buying PS. They seem content with their PS experience and have games bought there. Very well said friend, i agree.
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