Like all nintendo systems, there will be much better places to play 3rd party games (pretty much anywhere else will be better). It comes down to how badly you want to play the exclusives. There is nothing about the switch 2 that makes me think I need one at launch. Maybe year 2 or 3 I will see a lineup of games that makes me want to jump in but I think I'm going to wait and see.
I was really into the switch 1 in it's first few years but my nostalgia is satiated for the time being and don't really feel the need to play anything nintendo has to offer, especially at these prices. For now, it's a pass for me too.
@Tasuki i don't think the wii u sold poorly because people got confused. I think they just had the impossible task of convincing the most casual players ever to buy another system that was just a slightly better version of the same thing. They did the impossible task of getting non gamers like people in old folks homes to buy a videogame console but there was 0% chance of people like that buying the followup no matter what they did.
The switch will have a similar issue but to a lesser extent. A ton of these ultra casuals are just not going to be interested because buying the first one was such an out of character purchase to begin with.
I am not at all impressed with the switch 2 reveal, especially at this price. I will probably end up with it because I buy all platforms but so far I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
That's gross and they refuse to mark down games. They will expect you to pay $80 when the games are 5+ years old. I'm on the fence for the switch 2 and this might sway me away from it.
At least with xbox, pc, etc you can expect substantial discounts after it's been on the market for a bit.
Depends what we consider xbox news. An xbox port or two to the switch 2 isn't really my definition of xbox news but I'm sure we will see plenty of articles about it from xbox sites. There will probably be a few 3rd party titles that warrant a "this is also on xbox" update but nothing major.
I'm sure the early years of the switch 2 will be catching up on 3rd party titles that couldn't run on the og. Similar to how borderlands and bioshock got significant time at a direct when they got ported even though they were like 10 years old. This direct will probably have a lot of those type of annoucements (RE4 remake, etc)
I wonder what the weight of this handheld is. The original Rog ally is remarkably lightweight but still feels nice. Hopefully this one has a better battery though.
It will most likely come down to if you gel with the new heavy play style. Just like how Doom Eternal had a few detractors who didn't like the platforming style but was overall very well received.
It probably isn't a good strategy to just drop everything in at once even if it was possible. Dropping that many big games would eat into anything else releasing around it. A slow drip is better (they seem to be at or around 1 game per month).
They probably learned a lot from the data after the bethesda drop. I imagine there were plenty of games in that drop that attracted very few players because people went straight to the big ones. They would have gotten more out each game if they spaced out the releases.
The classic COD games in game pass presents its own problem too unless it is a single collection and/or rolled into the current Duty app. They don't want the current COD community to break up into like a dozen different games. It would be a mess as a consumer too to keep track of which ones your squad wants to play or which ones have the most players. Downloading all my favorite cod games and managing those installs sounds like a nightmare.
It was flat out free to keep on epic games store last year too.
I would like to see xbox put it's games on Epic and GOG like playstation does. Those are some pretty big storefronts to skip when your messaging is play anywhere. (GOG would obviously take a change in DRM policy)
Occasionally. It's a great game for my 5 year old nephew that loves anything with a motor. He loves using my steering wheel and driving on everything but the road.
I would rather play console games on disc. Hopefully they keep offering a way to buy and play them. If not, then I would be much more likely to purchase my games on pc where the digital stores have to compete with each other plus have sites with cheaper keys.
@dskatter didnt xbox share that gamepass only makes up like 20% of their revenue and they dont expect it to ever be more of their revenue portfolio than that...it is one dimension of their overall strategy no matter what the narrative tries to say it is.
Sony games would sell really well on xbox. Much more than the port cost.
@ButterySmooth30FPS but they could make even more money with multiplat, especially with way more switch ports. Companies don't often sit back and say "this is enough." Even more so when they are part of a larger mega corp like Sony.
Steam is heavily rumored to be making a "console" version of the steam deck. Im betting that triggers another new market race like the handheld pc. I wonder what Sony and the people who claim that pc is "different" from the console world would think of that scenario where dozens of consoles can purchase and play playstation "console exclusives".
@dskatter i wouldn't say "clearly" sony isn't considering anything but lego horizon to test the waters. We know they had internal discussions about heckdivers 2 on xbox. We have been watching them ramp up the pc ports.
I'm betting it is Sony executives that eventually demand Playstation executives do the full multiplatform with at least one future game. It doesn't make sense for them to keep openly complaining in investor meetings that profit margins on $200+ million budget games isn't as high as they want and then keep selling those games to a fraction of the gaming industry.
I don't see the incentive for sony to attempt to block them. More sales is more sales.
If anything it can be the bridge of the gap for the fangirls that can't handle the idea of games being sold everywhere. They would technically still be "just" steam games where the 30% or whatever goes to valve.
@dskatter they were forced by mlb to release that one or lose the rights to major league baseball. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney did the same thing to them with the marvel properties.
I'm thinking they release a legit Playstation property on xbox eventually.
All the ones I have gotten at a ridiculous discount either on steam sales, cd keys, humble bundles, etc.
For the stink people make about the cost of PCs upfront, not enough people mention how cheap the actual games can be. Just signing up for a free Epic account has gotten me a library of over 500 games, many of which are very good AAA games.
I still haven't decided if or when I will give this a try. I still have a bunch of big games purchased in black friday sales to get to. Gamepass really does a number on the backlog progress.
Anything in the 80s is really impressive for a 14th game of a franchise. Looks like another great Assassin's Creed game. Score-wise, it is right in line with the other RPG AC games.
I wish so bad it was in gamepass. I love the games but there isn't enough of a variation year to year to justify $70. Maybe at $20 I will jump back in.
@Kaloudz yes ubisoft does own his name for all future video games.
2008 article French video game giant Ubisoft said Thursday that it has agreed to buy all "intellectual property rights to the Tom Clancy name, on a perpetual basis and free of all related future royalty payments, for use in video games and ancillary products including related books, movies and merchandising products
Definitely not this week and maybe not later either. It hasn't really grabbed my attention yet. If a friend asks me to play with them or if the buzz around it is incredible then maybe but as of right now it's a pass for me.
Xbox Portable would probably be seen as too close to sonys name but I like the sound of referring to it as the XP. Xbox Series P or Xbox Series H are okay. Boring names but I think that's the move here. They are probably going to have a wide range of devices soon and the Series would probably be the best way to differentiate them.
I completed this on ps5 and didn't care for it. 6/10 seems like a fair score. I would be surprised if they bothered with an Xbox version. I think SE has moved on from this one.
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Re: Schedule 1 Being 'Investigated' Ahead Of Drug Dealer Simulator's Xbox Release
They deserve the review bomb.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Throws Shade At Switch 2, Says It's A 'Hard Pass'
Like all nintendo systems, there will be much better places to play 3rd party games (pretty much anywhere else will be better). It comes down to how badly you want to play the exclusives. There is nothing about the switch 2 that makes me think I need one at launch. Maybe year 2 or 3 I will see a lineup of games that makes me want to jump in but I think I'm going to wait and see.
I was really into the switch 1 in it's first few years but my nostalgia is satiated for the time being and don't really feel the need to play anything nintendo has to offer, especially at these prices. For now, it's a pass for me too.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Still Coming To Xbox In 2025, Insists Insider
I disliked ff7 remake. I definitely won't be double dipping on that one and probably won't ever give the other ff7 games a chance.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Willing To Pay $80 For Xbox Games?
I can't think of a single game that I would be willing to spend $80 on. I have been in a wait for $20 sale mentality for a few years now.
Re: Switch 2 Feature Reminds People Of The Disastrous Xbox One Launch
@Tasuki i don't think the wii u sold poorly because people got confused. I think they just had the impossible task of convincing the most casual players ever to buy another system that was just a slightly better version of the same thing. They did the impossible task of getting non gamers like people in old folks homes to buy a videogame console but there was 0% chance of people like that buying the followup no matter what they did.
The switch will have a similar issue but to a lesser extent. A ton of these ultra casuals are just not going to be interested because buying the first one was such an out of character purchase to begin with.
Re: ASUS Xbox Handheld Set To Rival The Nintendo Switch 2 In Price
I am not at all impressed with the switch 2 reveal, especially at this price. I will probably end up with it because I buy all platforms but so far I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
That's gross and they refuse to mark down games. They will expect you to pay $80 when the games are 5+ years old. I'm on the fence for the switch 2 and this might sway me away from it.
At least with xbox, pc, etc you can expect substantial discounts after it's been on the market for a bit.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Expecting Xbox News At The Switch 2 Direct This Week?
Depends what we consider xbox news. An xbox port or two to the switch 2 isn't really my definition of xbox news but I'm sure we will see plenty of articles about it from xbox sites. There will probably be a few 3rd party titles that warrant a "this is also on xbox" update but nothing major.
I'm sure the early years of the switch 2 will be catching up on 3rd party titles that couldn't run on the og. Similar to how borderlands and bioshock got significant time at a direct when they got ported even though they were like 10 years old. This direct will probably have a lot of those type of annoucements (RE4 remake, etc)
Re: Rumour: Halo's Leap To Other Platforms Might Be More Limited Than Expected
It should be halo infinite going to ps5 not mcc or a remake.
Re: Xbox Handheld Seemingly Revealed By ASUS In New Teaser Trailer
I wonder what the weight of this handheld is. The original Rog ally is remarkably lightweight but still feels nice. Hopefully this one has a better battery though.
Re: Here's What The 'Hands On' Previews Are Saying About DOOM: The Dark Ages
It will most likely come down to if you gel with the new heavy play style. Just like how Doom Eternal had a few detractors who didn't like the platforming style but was overall very well received.
Re: Lots Of Activision Blizzard Games Aren't On Xbox Game Pass Yet, But Why?
It probably isn't a good strategy to just drop everything in at once even if it was possible. Dropping that many big games would eat into anything else releasing around it. A slow drip is better (they seem to be at or around 1 game per month).
They probably learned a lot from the data after the bethesda drop. I imagine there were plenty of games in that drop that attracted very few players because people went straight to the big ones. They would have gotten more out each game if they spaced out the releases.
The classic COD games in game pass presents its own problem too unless it is a single collection and/or rolled into the current Duty app. They don't want the current COD community to break up into like a dozen different games. It would be a mess as a consumer too to keep track of which ones your squad wants to play or which ones have the most players. Downloading all my favorite cod games and managing those installs sounds like a nightmare.
Re: New Death Stranding Record Hints At Potential Of PS5 Ports On Xbox
It was flat out free to keep on epic games store last year too.
I would like to see xbox put it's games on Epic and GOG like playstation does. Those are some pretty big storefronts to skip when your messaging is play anywhere. (GOG would obviously take a change in DRM policy)
Re: How Well Are Xbox Games Selling On PlayStation? Here's What The Data Says
I should play Grounded again, such an amazing game.
Re: Talking Point: Which MMORPGs Would You Love To Play Natively On Xbox?
I think WoW makes it to xbox but honestly I'm not trying to play any of them. MMO isn't really a genre I enjoy.
Re: Poll: As Forza Horizon 5 Cruises To PS5, Are You Still Playing It On Xbox?
Occasionally. It's a great game for my 5 year old nephew that loves anything with a motor. He loves using my steering wheel and driving on everything but the road.
Re: 8BitDo Xbox Keyboard Gets First Discount In US, Amazon Pre-Orders Live In UK
They both still seem a bit expensive for what they are.
Re: Ubisoft Shares Spike By 10% After Tencent Invests $1 Billion Into New Subsidiary
I really doubt ubisoft gets fully acquired or even sells an IP. It seems like they are going to weather the storm.
However, I'm still expecting a big round of layoffs as they become a more focused publisher.
Re: Sony-Owned 'Patapon' Is Coming To PS5, Switch And PC, But No Sign Of Xbox
Another small step in the multiplat direction for Sony. Times they are a changing.
Re: Reminder: 10 Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass To Finish Off March
I purchased Lamplighters after trying it on gamepass. That is a solid game.
And of course mlb the show is legendary. I am sad that this year's isn't in gamepass.
Re: OG Xbox Creator Shares His Thoughts On The State Of The Brand In 2025
I would be surprised if in 15 years any of the big storefronts are on a dedicated piece of hardware that only runs that one closed ecosystem.
Steam currently looks like the most future facing platform.
Re: Talking Point: Will Any Next-Gen Xbox Have A Disc Drive?
I would rather play console games on disc. Hopefully they keep offering a way to buy and play them. If not, then I would be much more likely to purchase my games on pc where the digital stores have to compete with each other plus have sites with cheaper keys.
Re: Talking Point: Almost 6 Months On, Are You Still Playing Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024?
Yes. I still have it installed on the x, s, and pc. I love this game.
Career mode really transformed the 2020 game into something much better. The weekly leaderboards are great too, I have even won a couple of weeks.
Re: Xbox Buying Ubisoft Would Be An Unwise Move, Suggests Former PlayStation Boss
No one will buy ubisoft in their current state. I am predicting a sizable layoff for them soon.
I think acquisition is the least likely outcome for ubisoft at the moment.
Re: Xbox Will Bring 'A Lot More' Exclusives To PS5 And Switch 2 In 2025
The strategy is clearly working so it's not surprising to hear they are continuing with it.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Petition Passes 130,000 Signatures, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
@dskatter didnt xbox share that gamepass only makes up like 20% of their revenue and they dont expect it to ever be more of their revenue portfolio than that...it is one dimension of their overall strategy no matter what the narrative tries to say it is.
Sony games would sell really well on xbox. Much more than the port cost.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Petition Passes 130,000 Signatures, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
@ButterySmooth30FPS but they could make even more money with multiplat, especially with way more switch ports. Companies don't often sit back and say "this is enough." Even more so when they are part of a larger mega corp like Sony.
Re: Talking Point: Could Sony 'Block' PlayStation Games On An Xbox Handheld?
Steam is heavily rumored to be making a "console" version of the steam deck. Im betting that triggers another new market race like the handheld pc. I wonder what Sony and the people who claim that pc is "different" from the console world would think of that scenario where dozens of consoles can purchase and play playstation "console exclusives".
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Petition Passes 130,000 Signatures, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
@dskatter i wouldn't say "clearly" sony isn't considering anything but lego horizon to test the waters. We know they had internal discussions about heckdivers 2 on xbox. We have been watching them ramp up the pc ports.
I'm betting it is Sony executives that eventually demand Playstation executives do the full multiplatform with at least one future game. It doesn't make sense for them to keep openly complaining in investor meetings that profit margins on $200+ million budget games isn't as high as they want and then keep selling those games to a fraction of the gaming industry.
Re: Talking Point: Could Sony 'Block' PlayStation Games On An Xbox Handheld?
I don't see the incentive for sony to attempt to block them. More sales is more sales.
If anything it can be the bridge of the gap for the fangirls that can't handle the idea of games being sold everywhere. They would technically still be "just" steam games where the 30% or whatever goes to valve.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Petition Passes 130,000 Signatures, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
@dskatter they were forced by mlb to release that one or lose the rights to major league baseball. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney did the same thing to them with the marvel properties.
I'm thinking they release a legit Playstation property on xbox eventually.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Petition Passes 130,000 Signatures, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
It might not be heckdivers 2 but eventually playstation will release an Xbox game. I expect numerous switch 2 games from them in the next few years.
Re: Talking Point: Which Steam Games Would You Want To Play On An Xbox Console?
All the ones I have gotten at a ridiculous discount either on steam sales, cd keys, humble bundles, etc.
For the stink people make about the cost of PCs upfront, not enough people mention how cheap the actual games can be. Just signing up for a free Epic account has gotten me a library of over 500 games, many of which are very good AAA games.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Racks Up One Million Players In Less Than 24 Hours
It looks like another winner for Ubisoft and assassins creed.
Re: Xbox Is Seemingly Hard At Work On Backwards Compatibility For The Next Xbox Consoles
I am excited for the future of xbox if they get our current and future library playable on pc and a pc based xbox.
I have wanted this for a long time now and it's looking more and more likely to be true.
Re: Microsoft's Next Xbox Game Studios Release Has Officially Gone Gold
I still haven't decided if or when I will give this a try. I still have a bunch of big games purchased in black friday sales to get to. Gamepass really does a number on the backlog progress.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Too Early To Release A New Xbox Console In 2027?
2026 would have been better, the new devices can't come soon enough.
Re: Pick One: If Xbox Acquired One Ubisoft IP, Which Should It Be?
@Valhura it doesn't sound like you know what a 3rd party game is. These are all xbox owned IP.
Re: Talking Point: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Release Date Continues To Remain A Mystery
It doesn't look like something i will enjoy so I will wait for a massive discount on steam or pass all together.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Assassin's Creed Shadows
Anything in the 80s is really impressive for a 14th game of a franchise. Looks like another great Assassin's Creed game. Score-wise, it is right in line with the other RPG AC games.
Shadows 82
Valhalla 80
Odyssey 83
Origins 81
Re: Palworld's Developer Was Apparently Shocked By Nintendo's Lawsuit
I'm rooting for palworld and anyone else that is a victim of nintendo's legal bullying campaign.
Re: Poll: MLB The Show 25 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
I wish so bad it was in gamepass. I love the games but there isn't enough of a variation year to year to justify $70. Maybe at $20 I will jump back in.
Re: Pick One: If Xbox Acquired One Ubisoft IP, Which Should It Be?
@Valhura halo, gears, doom, call of duty, wolfenstein, fallout, outer worlds, starfield, etc.
They have PLENTY of shooters but tactical and stealth would be welcome additions for me.
Re: Pick One: If Xbox Acquired One Ubisoft IP, Which Should It Be?
@Kaloudz yes ubisoft does own his name for all future video games.
2008 article
French video game giant Ubisoft said Thursday that it has agreed to buy all "intellectual property rights to the Tom Clancy name, on a perpetual basis and free of all related future royalty payments, for use in video games and ancillary products including related books, movies and merchandising products
Re: Talking Point: Are You Trying Out This Week's Day One Xbox Game Pass Release?
Definitely not this week and maybe not later either. It hasn't really grabbed my attention yet. If a friend asks me to play with them or if the buzz around it is incredible then maybe but as of right now it's a pass for me.
Re: Pick One: If Xbox Acquired One Ubisoft IP, Which Should It Be?
Tom clancy series. I don't think ubisoft has any desire to return to the single player roots.
Xbox has plenty of shooters but not many of them are tactical or stealth based.
I really doubt Ubisoft sell IP or get acquired. I think massive layoffs are coming and they downsize tremendously.
Re: Talking Point: What Should Microsoft Call The '2027' Xbox Console & Handheld?
Xbox Portable would probably be seen as too close to sonys name but I like the sound of referring to it as the XP. Xbox Series P or Xbox Series H are okay. Boring names but I think that's the move here. They are probably going to have a wide range of devices soon and the Series would probably be the best way to differentiate them.
Re: Six Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In April 2025 So Far
I think I'm most excited for the commandos game but a very solid month.
Re: Talking Point: Two Years Later, Is It Finally Almost Time For 'Forspoken' On Xbox?
I completed this on ps5 and didn't care for it. 6/10 seems like a fair score. I would be surprised if they bothered with an Xbox version. I think SE has moved on from this one.
Re: Talking Point: What Other Bethesda Remakes Would You Like Xbox To Greenlight?
All of them but fallout 3 and morrowind should be front of the line