
It feels like the topic of the week has been centered around whether Steam will be coming to the next Xbox console, and although it's probably going to be ages until we know either way, it's still a fun thing to discuss!
Personally, I've got quite a few games in my Steam library that would be a great fit for my Xbox console, although some would definitely require a mouse and keyboard too. Football Manager 2024 comes to mind, for example, as does a big MMO like Star Wars: The Old Republic - the possibilities are endless really. Just looking at the "Top Sellers" list on Steam right now, games like R.E.P.O. and Wreckfest 2 aren't on Xbox at all yet, so Steam integration would allow us to access these titles much earlier than we can today.
I think the modding possibilities are really exciting with something like this as well. eFootball PES 2021 is a game that I own across both Xbox and PC, but it's the latter version that gets all my attention because of the mods. Some Xbox games have mods that work really well, but opening things up to the Steam Workshop and beyond would be incredible!
Of course, the other part that would make Steam so useful to Xbox players — and it's possibly a reason why it won't happen after all — is that it would provide more opportunities to get games at lower prices. The Microsoft Store would suddenly be in competition with Steam, the Epic Games Store and everything else, which feels a little counter-intuitive.
Who knows, though? It's hard to know what Microsoft is thinking at this point, and the leaked image that showed a Steam tab next to a bunch of devices including two Xbox consoles was always bound to get everyone's hopes up.
It's probably nothing... but if Steam was to come to Xbox, which games would you want to play on there?
Give us your picks down in the comments section below!
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Would it not just be the whole Steam storefront? Through the app? An interesting discussion point that a few have bought up here is price competition when in it comes to Steam Vs Xbox stores.
All the ones I have gotten at a ridiculous discount either on steam sales, cd keys, humble bundles, etc.
For the stink people make about the cost of PCs upfront, not enough people mention how cheap the actual games can be. Just signing up for a free Epic account has gotten me a library of over 500 games, many of which are very good AAA games.
Easy football manager
@Kaloudz
"Would it not just be the whole Steam storefront? "
Unlikely. Do you actually have a Steam account or have ever used it for more than 5 minutes? At best you're going to see some version of Steam-Lite on Xbox, not the whole shebang.
None. If I wanted to play Steam games I'd play on a PC. I buy and play consoles for a reason.
I still don’t quite understand their play here. Is the Steam integration the only thing that is supposed to save Xbox? Is this their trump card? Are there even any notable games on Steam that aren’t available on console? Football Manager hardly gets me excited.
I’ll say it again, they can do whatever Steam integration they want, but if they want to sell Xboxs, they need to have exclusive games. Exclusives sell consoles
@RexPowercolt
I've been a Steam user since day one and while I do have an Xbox account for my Series S and 360 I don't sub to GP because like most PC gamers I ain't paying for something I don't need. Also like the vast majority of PC gamers will actively avoid using the Windows Store because it's naff.
Play Anywhere also needs a hell of lot more work as barely any Xbox titles use the feature - around 7% which is bugger all. Xbox gamers seem to be under the delusion that Play Anywhere is this huge draw to the PC community and I can tell you, as a member of that community, it's really not.
Game consoles are and always will always be little more than a secondary novelty to your more dedicated PC gamer. That's a fact and that isn't going to change anytime soon.
This is about keeping current Xbox users in the system and luring other console gamers to the Xbox platform. It's got nothing to do with tempting the PC community because Microsoft don't really have anything to offer us. We don't have to pay subs to keep playing our free games via Steam, GoG and Epic. We don't have to pay to play online. We're not confined to a walled garden and have complete flexibility within the games and platforms that launch them. What has Microsoft got to offer PC gamers? You can't bargain with what you don't have.
@LogicStrikesAgain I mean, you'll be able to play key PlayStation games without buying a PlayStation.
It's also another step towards a hardware agnostic future. Which is where, I believe, the industry needs to head.
@SMJ
"you'll be able to play key PlayStation games without buying a PlayStation."
If it stops people buying PlayStation consoles then I imagine Sony will step in at some point. In fact, it's a certainty.
@SMJ - Was just going to say i'd find it funny to play Spiderman, Horizon, Last of Us, God of War, etc on an Xbox device that supports Steam games.
Returnal returnal returnal...
Xbox being part Steam machine would go pretty hard actually.
@Dalamar73 Never used it mate. I literally use it (with no account) to read reviews for games that come to Xbox from there - because the store reviews on Xbox are always about someone's nan...
I'm confused as to who has the say about how much of Steam would come to Xbox. Surely that's a Steam choice? But then, why would Steam want less revenue? It's also not going to be a developer / publisher choice, because Steam is Steam and if you're releasing your game there then it'l be universal, right?
@ThatOneSneak You evolved your Eevee wrong. You should have used a Thunder Stone.
P.S. I totally agree. I think the next Xbox is going to be flamin' epic and turn a lot of heads.
@Kaloudz
I think folk need to reign in their expectations with regards to any form of Steam on Xbox.
It isn't going to be the game saver you all seem to think it is. PC gamers don't need it as we already have it feature complete. PlayStation gamers, mass market or no, will continue to buy PlayStation. As I say above, this is about retaining Xbox users already in the ecosystem.
@Dalamar73 I'm sure they would. However, I also believe that there will be a PS6 and next Xbox and then that will be it for bespoke home consoles.
We will have the equivalent of what Microsoft are doing with the next Xbox - a user friendly PC in a console shell under your TV.
Once that happens, all store fronts will be available to buy and download from. This final Xbox is just a bridge to that future.
@Dalamar73 I disagree. I think more choice and less barriers is a good thing, and I firmly believe that the next Xbox is going to be a head turner. I think expectations are lower than what they should be, based on what we know so far, next gen Xbox is going to be outstanding. I think MS are two steps behind on hardware sales, but ten steps ahead in prepping for a future that all will be leaning in on.
If all the half life games are on it that's definitely what I'd go for!! Are there any playstation games available on steam??
I'd definitely play some ps exclusives if they where there especially drakes uncharted and Bloodborne.
I might just buy a PS4 for them games in the summer but my misses thinks it would be weird for a guy my age to have two consoles 🤷 maybe I can change her mind 🤗
@Kaloudz
"I think more choice and less barriers is a good thing"
Well of course, but you clearly underestimate just how powerful the PS brand is. Ironically so did Microsoft.
And seriously, do you honestly think I'm going to ditch my gaming PC for an Xbox? Not in a million years. I can assure you that for the majority of dedicated PC gamers it's not even up for consideration.
"Yes, lets ditch my more capable, flexible and versatile system for a walled garden and a monthly subscription."
Yeah, not happening...
@SMJ I don't know man, maybe you’re right. But having exclusives is basically Sony’s modus operandi and the reason they sell consoles. I have the feeling they would step in if all their games could be played on a Xbox. Because that would indeed be disastrous for Playstation
@Dalamar73 Maybe your not the audience for the machine so when it comes out 🤗
It's all good I'm sure there are many out there who will be interested enough to purchase it and life will move on as it's meant to🤔🥱🤗
Will be all very interesting if the new Xbox is a plug and play PC with steam etc.
Especially if by then all Xbox published games are day one on other consoles.
I can’t see who this new device is for, ok the must haves and a few more but not even a 20 million total sales worldwide device.
So all the games are already on steam. Cheaper than Xbox. With a well built user base.
Majority of games by 27 will be on switch2/ps.
So who exactly, outside of current Xbox users are going to be that interested?
Obviously on a publisher/software side of thing they are in a good place.
But hardware is showing to be another story. It’s not even like there is a big user base to lean on.
Personally I can’t see how it will have steam, run the games anywhere near equivalent to a PC version. Or be at an affordable price.
@Ricky-Spanish
"Maybe your not the audience for the machine so when it comes out"
Yes that is my point, but I get the impression that some seem to think that Microsoft's next Xbox, whatever that is, is going to tempt people away from systems they're already heavily invested in - or in the case of PC a platform that already does everything required and that is more versatile. Sure a few stragglers may jump on board, but this is clearly about retaining the audience they already have above all.
@LogicStrikesAgain I'm sure they'd try to do something but it's difficult to see what that would be if the games are available on Steam.
@Dalamar73 I mean that's totally up to you but at the very least, it has you here, right now, on an Xbox site, discussing it.
My point is, accessibility is always going to be a major selling factor for any brand. If you can nail that and cover other bases, it's win win.
We already know Xbox has handheld, new hardware, and new controllers on the way - on top of an increasingly impressive game output (so much so they have to delay their own games to make space for others).
Mix it all in with what we know so far about what they're working on and you never know, it may even surprise and entice you, who've already made up their mind.
I still really don't see this happening. It just doesn't seem like something Valve would be interested in doing at all.
@Kaloudz
Discussing a product is not the same as investing in a product.
No, a game console will never "entice" me away from a gaming PC because no matter what you believe it will never, ever offer the same versatility and flexibility. That's just the way consoles are and will always be. It's a simple fact. I use game consoles, they serve a purpose and have some cool features, but they will ALWAYS play second fiddle.
Tell you what, if Microsoft release an Xbox that I can upgrade separate components at will, use DRM free sites like GoG where I can download the offline installers thus essentially owning the digital product I've bought, offer an unparalleled emulator and modification scene with no barriers, then we'll talk.
But you know as well as I do that is never happening.
All of them. Literally all of them. Steam is pretty much always cheaper. Steam has no online multiplayer paywall. Steam has vastly superior profile customisation and community features. Once Xbox allows Steam there is simply no longer any reason to buy games from the Microsoft Store whatsoever, aside from when taking advantage of Microsoft Rewards points (if that scheme still exists in 2027). It’s really that simple, Microsoft Store can’t hold a candle to Steam.
So many expect some kind of Utopia with the Prime. So many will be so very, very disappointed...
@Dalamar73 Oh I mean yeah when we go that far off the beaten track then I can agree. That will never happen, but this started off with chatter about simple Steam support lol. To that end, I say let's wait and see. I can't see them implementing it and it not being fairly vast out the gate.
@Fiendish-Beaver Did you say utopia? 🥹
SteamVR games would be great, although I'm not confident about Microsoft supporting VR headset functionality on their Xbox-Windows-Steam platform, at least natively.
I don't have anything in particular, but given the way PS does exclusivity deals where the games come to PC as well as PS, if this could circumvent that then that opens up a lot of future potential.
Obviously execution is all important but in theory I'd be up for this set up with a Switch 2 rather than a PS6.
Unreal Tournament 2004, Emulation Station 😺
I haven’t used Steam in like 20 years because I play on console, but I’d happily replay the Half Life games and Deus Ex. Realistically anything new I’d want usually comes to consoles though!
That said, I’d love to play modded games like Fallout: London.
So many games that I see people playing. Quirky new ip that’s trending I would like to get hold of and play but always on steam. So really excited if this happens
euro truck simulator 2 or american truck simulator already have the wheel setup ready to go
Gary’s Mod for me
@somnambulance
"I’d love to play modded games like Fallout: London."
Requires Script Extender. Not possible on console.
Will any of them actually work fully and properly without the devs needing to modify them first for the new fixed-hybrid-PC-Xbox-hardware?
It goes without saying that PlayStation wouldn't let a single PlayStation Steam game be played on Xbox, I don't know why people here are even entertaining the conversation.
If there's one thing certain in life is that Sony hates Microsoft and would never give them a inch 😅 they probably cry every time they have to make the baseball game.
@Dalamar73 an open console pc hybrid might not tempt you out of PC gaming, but the vast VAST majority of PC gamers are not playing on high end systems. You give someone a £/$700 device that can upgrade them whilst playing on monitor or TV, remove the online paywall and stop them having to scrap for overpriced GPUs or other components and you've opened up a compelling market.
Don't get me wrong, it's not gonna move the needle for someone rocking a 4090 setup but those 20 series Nvidia users, those 4060 guys? Done right it's basically a hassle free upgrade.
Dave the Diver and Pacific Drive would be my first go to games. But I'd still prefer an actual Xbox release.
Hades 2
Many other indies, but the big one would be Hades 2 early access
@M20B25 I just rolled credits on Dave the Diver on switch last week. Such a fun game. Really hope it comes to xbox soon, with all the odd dlc and cross overs. It would be a fantastic game pass addition. Playable steam version on xbox would be nice
Having to renegotiate royalties with every single publisher on Steam sounds like a gargantuan hassle.
@Dalamar73 I think you are kind of grouping all PC players into a fairly small bucket.
If Microsoft can make a console that plays PC games - even at just "console settings" - and can be affordable, it would be a huge draw for:
Sure, the hardcore, emulation using, hardware updating, DRM-fighting PC gamers are probably not going to be swayed into a lower-spec machine that is more designed around couch play - they will continue to pay the premium price for the premium experience.
But the more budget-conscious PC gamers may see merit in what this accomplishes - especially if it has a great price to performance ratio.
The truth of the matter is, Microsoft can't "out console" PlayStation. They've tried for 2 generations now (well I guess 3 if you count OG Xbox, too) and the gap between Xbox and PlayStation continues to grow more and more in Sony's favor.
Microsoft HAS to take a different lane.
Microsoft can "out PC" Sony, though! And this potential future actually expands the market rather than continues courting the same people - who are very much jumping to PlayStation at the moment.
...F.E.A.R.
I still think everyone is expecting too much from this Steam-Xbox thing though.
@GamingFan4Lyf
Yeah you're spot on re consumer thinking, and just fyi that Delmar guy started trying to personally insult me yesterday (I forgive him) for saying:
@Coletrain @GamingFan4Lyf
Both fair comments I hadn't really considered.
Coletrain - I'm not sure you're going to see MS remove the online paywall though, no matter what they release. There are far too many Xbox users willing to stump up for a subscription. I don't agree with paywalls for online features, but MS would literally be throwing money away if they scrapped it.
@Dalamar73 Might be a feature of a console/PC hybrid though. Depends on how PC the console would be.
@GamingFan4Lyf I just don’t really see the difference between Xbox making a “PC like” console, if it still has a fixed set of specs they will need to develop for, compared to a regular console also with a fixed set of specs you need to develop for.
People will still want to buy a PS6 for their exclusives, and if Xbox keeps porting their games to PS, who is this targeted towards?
It’s honestly really vague to me what they are trying to accomplish here, but if true, it really looks like they are just building a console for Valve. Because who would still continue to buy games from the Xbox store if Steam is available on it? It’ll effectively just be a new Steam console
@somnambulance
This is all just chatter, though, based on very loose rumours and speculation.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the next Xbox turns out to just be a plain old console with a handful of additional new features, none of which include Steam.
I also strongly suspect it will be Microsoft's last dedicated console hardware.
@LogicStrikesAgain
Yeah, this is why I don't think any of this is actually happening.
I think the writing is on the wall for your traditional, dedicated, under the tele Xbox console.
All I want is BeamNG.drive on Xbox
@Dalamar73 yeah I'm really nervous about what they do with online paywalls, it'd make sense for me that they scrap it for new hardware but keep it in place for series consoles. Sort of a go big or go home scenario. Obviously you'd expect the UI to be littered with game pass ultimate ads too.
That's what I mean when I say "done right", because done as a greedy upgrade just won't sell. You're dead right to be skeptical though, I'm feeling the same way, but remembering that it's my money and I can move to PS6 or PC if I want
@Coletrain
There's a lot to be skeptical with this industry nowadays. It's why, as I highlighted elsewhere, I'm slowly walking away from the modern games industry. It just lacks the appeal it once had. Got enough unplayed games to last way into my retirement.
I already decided that KCD 2 will be the last new release I buy. There is literally nothing on the horizon that interests me.
@Dalamar73 Very true on all fronts. As of right now, I can’t figure out a plan Xbox has that would include consoles as a 10 year goal to continue unless technology dramatically slows down. I’m not sure how financially Xbox could justify two more generations without there being a dramatic shift, given how sales have been trending the last two generations.
UBOAT, Endless Space 2 and a lot of other strategy games that rarely leave the PC (Old World, Terra Invicta, etc.)
@LogicStrikesAgain I know to many people who bought a PS5 to play CoD, NBA 2k, Madden, Fortnite. So no, exclusives are not the only selling point. But to your point the square enix exclusivity deal is what made my other friends get a PS5.
@Seioni Sure, but i disagree that those games are the reason they chose Playstation, because those are available as well on Xbox. They could have easily bought a Xbox to play their Fortnite and CoD right? And yet they didn’t.
Most people are overwhelmingly choosing Playstation because of their reputation of delivering high class exclusives, and since Xbox started porting their games last year, you now have acces to both Sony’s exclusives and Xbox games.
It’s similar to the tv streaming world. Even if you only watch a couple of shows, you still have to pick a subscription. For example, why would you subscribe to Netflix if every show they make comes to Disney+. You’d just subscribe to Disney+, that way you have acces to Disneys catalogue and Netflix’s.
Look, i may be wrong. But the way i see it, one way to entice people to buy their next gen console is to offer good exclusives games.
Edit: However, i will say you’re right that exclusives aren’t the only reason. Some people consider Playstation out of convenience, as it might be more readily available in some regions of the world, some (especially younger people) will look at what their peers have and some are just loyal to the brand or have built up too big of a collection in their ecosystem to switch to something else
@LogicStrikesAgain
I've never bought into this "exclusives don't matter" narrative. They clearly do matter and play an important part. Always have.
I bought a Nintendo Switch for the exclusives. And so did millions of others.
I think many want Steam because its a great store.
However, I actually realized aside from PS exclusives (that you can play on ps5 instead and day 1) there are not many games on steam that would be a good experience on console. Many are purely PC games designed for MKB, especially the older games.
So the better spot for this xbox with steam hybrid is near your monitor on the desk…meaning you can just buy PC.
@Millionski
There's also a loads of great games on Steam, particularly from the Indie market, that many will have never have heard of because they've not received the coverage outside the community.
@Dalamar73 exactly. Most people dont care. Its not an argument for average gamer to buy xbox with steam
@LogicStrikesAgain i think aggressive marketing against the console by MS themselves as well as not restocking xboxes do way more damage than exclusives porting. Average person convinced anyways that “xbox does not have games” already
@Millionski I don’t think stock issues are the problem rather a consequence of no one buying a Xbox. But i do agree with the marketing, that has definitely not helped.
Ironically Xbox, by acquiring two of the biggest publishers, now does have a lot of games. But they (understandably) decided to go multiplatform. And i don’t know if they can go back from this decision next gen
@LogicStrikesAgain Well there is no extra version to develop. Developers can test the PC version against the Xbox hardware and even have Xbox presets for the games (but still allow those who want to tweak to do so).
It essentially eliminates the whole “not worth porting to Xbox” problem since testing a PC build against a fixed hardware set is a lot easier than dealing with a whole separate version that may or may not get sales.
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