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@Markatron84 It looks good visually, but Local-only Co-op for any Beat 'Em Up made past 2005 is sinful.

@Markatron84 It's a great Beat 'Em Up. I'd say PS & Switch can have Battletoads 2020 but that might have the opposite intended effect.

@Balaam_ Steep discou- it's the same prices they've been at on every platform for years!

IDK why anyone's surprised. It's not like Bandai themselves are super behind porting their own games to Xbox, let alone one from Sony. Though TBH the only small PS games I'll be devastated if Xbox doesn't get should they get re-released are things like Dragon's Crown and Tokyo Jungle.

Now the Backgrounds can be ads too!

@vrubayka Most big companies like Microsoft don't see the value in funding smaller projects - they don't care if it made a massive profit for what it was because the profit wasn't AS big as the AAA games. Which is especially stupid for Microsoft of all companies, who have a subscription service that could really use those smaller releases that can be made at a faster rate.

@Mazitron I'll always call BS on that 'we ran out of things we could add' excuse. You're telling me the sequels to Deathspank and Sonic & Sega Racing were on the table but not the first games?

Yet despite countless devs and publishers saying as much, some people here just won't accept that Xbox isn't relevant in Japan and will argue that Xbox is beloved there.

The fact that an issue like this randomly popped up along with a few others makes me wonder if they are doing something behinds the scenes related to Backwards Compatibility. Kinda like how all the old CoD servers 'randomly' got fixed a few days before the Activision acquisition went through.

That sounds like a ridiculous demand and choice to make because of it, especially with the monthly mass layoffs in the gaming industry. I wish them the best but don't wanna hear any 'woe is me' stories from the team.

I don't think they'll make backwards and relist a ton of Activision games... that'd make too much money and earn them some actual goodwill.

@MrList Same. If I knew there were gonna cut it the year I'd bought one I wouldn't have bothered.

It's just the base game right? Missing out on anything major by not having the Gold Premium Ultimate Super Turbo HD Remix v1.8+3 Editions?

The game that's doing so well the Ubisoft investors want the CEO fired.

The 'perks' really should be with Standard or Core. Core's equivalent of PS+ Essential is the one they give perks with, and they're not only more plentiful but better overall. If things like the P3R Pass aren't going to be the standard instead of the very rare exception, I don't see a reason to try and pass it as justification for paying more for Ultimate.

By the time games specifically made to actually be current gen release we'll be near a new console Gen anyways. I don't feel like I got my money's worth out of the Series X, and things aren't looking better from here.

Considering they were only Timed Exclusives, even if it took a long time, this is less surprising news than Microsoft already working on 2 Transformers projects immediately following the Activision purchase.

Why can't they do this with the Backwards Sonic 1, 2, 3, & CD that were delisted for Sonic Origins? I'd buy that.

Patiently waiting for them to revive NBA Jam from the dead for like the third time.

It would be one thing if GWG was gone but they put the money into GP in some way, but they didn't. Core's line up is a bunch of games you could buy on sale for almost the same price as a year of the service, we didn't see an increase of quantity or quality of GP games, and the Perks w/ Ultimate are the same if arguably worse than they were when GWG was around, the Persona 3 Reload Pass being the single exception.

What makes AAA games being filled with so much worthless bloat even worse, is it's the SAME worthless bloat across all games, for 10 years. I'd rather play a 6-20 hour game multiple times than play a 100+ hour slog once. That's why you get more people hyping up re-releases of things from over a decade ago instead of what the corpos think will be their biggest hit of the year.

It's a watered down Fallout 4 in every conceivable way, so simplified and dumbed down I couldn't take it anymore just under halfway through. And what's sad is they're moments of greatness like the UC Vanguard and Crimson Fleet storylines that are really good, but they come 'n go and are just drops of water in the bucket of otherwise boring content.

No problems installing things, but it told me TimeSplitters from the OG Xbox got an ESRB rating update, which I thought was weird.

Concord is an exception to the rule because it literally did everything wrong from the get go. You can make a new IP and have it grow to potentially become a franchise, but the ones that do it correctly take their time. Something like Yo-Kai Watch could've still been prominent now and been a lot of peoples' preference to Pokemon if they didn't blow all their momentum in a few years. But if you're not independent, you're also at the whims of idiots like the people at Microsoft, who almost killed Hi-Fi Rush before it potentially became more than a one-of. Personally I hope to see Bugsnax become a small franchise, with like a Slime Rancher spin-off.

We'll know if it was actually an issue with the MT Framework if past and future games using it end up getting Xbox ports. Even if this is another case of Microsoft throwing money at the issue, at least they're collections for good games.

@TheUnrestCure I doubt they'll go that far, for this specifically. Even if it's just making the old games backwards and or relisting the XBO/PS4 FoC port, RotDS, & Devastation, it's Microsoft doing what they can in the immediate short term while saying they know there's a demand for these old games. Hasbro's gonna be making toys based on WFC & FoC for a good while - if these games get dedicated Remasters with online in a reasonable time, both companies stand to profit massively.

@InterceptorAlpha Only Boss I had trouble with on Hard was Soundwave weirdly enough. Since it's such a cramped arena if one of you gets downed it snowballs quickly, so I ended up doing it and only it solo. The Trypticon fight has a good few factors that can make it very easy, like knowing you can get the healing weapons for it or that there's a spot in Phase 2 that completely blocks all but two of his attacks.

I could also see Hasbro being super cooperative with getting the Activision games back on peoples' radars and in their game libraries ASAP considering they started making very well done toys of the games and the movies with tie-in games. It'd be beneficial for Hasbro, Microsoft, gamers, and the IP itself alike, which could lead to full on remakes/remasters with servers again, along with similar revivals for the Marvel games.

@Ricky-Spanish If you're not a fan of Transformers, they're still solid Third-Person Shooters. But even being a casual fan boosts it a lot. War for Cybertron is far less enjoyable now without 3 player co-op, but Fall of Cybertron's Campaign holds up just as well as it did then since it's only Single Player.

Even if it's just making WFC & FoC backwards, without relisting them or bringing the servers back, it's a start and shows they intend to not just sit on all these games. I can see them slowly making the licensed games backwards while working on full-on remasters/collections for current consoles as a warm up for getting more interest.

@Rodimusprime13 Could see this, as much as it pains me since RotDS had the best Escalation Mode. Alternatively I guess 'projects' could be pretty broad and not individual things each.

Slime Rancher 2 left before being finished, would've rather it not have been chosen than that.

I don't care if it's just relisting 2 of the 3 delisted Transformers titles from XBO/PS4 - I'll be buying them. Next year is Devastation's 10 Year Anniversary, and weirdly you can still buy the RotDS DLC despite the Escalation Mode it's for being unplayable.

@InheritNegative I'm glad the MvC Collection is getting made, but I'm more interested if seeing all the hype for it and it doing well (for what it is) gets Digital Eclipse to make collections for the Marvel and Spider-Man games. ... Mostly just for the Beat 'Em Ups just like the TMNT Collection.

Regardless of how it turns out being... it's an Ubisoft game. If you want to play it, you'll probably be able to buy it and keep it for just over the price of Ubisoft Plus in 6 months. And if it is good, owning it will be important since it's a licensed game destined to be delisted some day.

Microsoft and Sony are the ones who created the issue, so I don't feel bad for them in the least. Since the Xbox One-PS4 Gen they've been talking about 1080-60 when most of their games a console Gen later can't do that, and NOW they promised 4K 60FPS this Gen as the standard.

Aside from specific genres where it's noticeable like FPS, I generally don't care as long as it's stable. But don't say you're going to do something as a company if you're not 110% sure you can do it, then complain about people complaining about the things you promised and they paid for.

Seems my plan going forward is not bothering with Xbox again. Has the least amount of software across all consoles, even if we include the backwards titles that're on a timer and don't include the shovelware on everything but Xbox. Personally can't even say the hardware is reliable - pack-in controller got drift faster than my Joycons with less play and I constantly have random issues with the console itself compared to my 360 or One.

@Frmknst TBH I think Microsoft are the oblivious ones. The people who just buy the yearly CoD, yearly sports games, and one thing here or there aren't gonna care about Game Pass. If they cared about those other games, they probably had Game Pass before the Activision buy. And for those people just buying those games like they always did is the least complicated solution.

There was a Switch port announced forever ago and Xbox still got it first, geez.

Being able to search by Developer and Publisher names would be nice. Maybe it's just me, but I'd also like an option to disable anything with a basic Game Pass price cut from showing up in the Deals section. I'd prefer to see things that, you know, are actual deals on a timer.

@Runex2121 And I can understand that perspective, but like I said, for me most of the GP games I play are either old or cheaper Indies. I've played two, maybe three max Day One games that're $60-70 in the few years I've had it so, just not for me. As for replaying games it's not that I do it often, but more just liking the option that I can long term, you know? Especially anything with Local Co-op I can throw out as an option when people come over.

@Kilamanjaro Quite honestly aside from occasional Firefight Matches in the MCC, I myself don't even play online that much. Or if I do it's for F2P games that don't require a Sub. It's more of a 'just in case' someone I know randomly has time for a Co-op session and I don't wanna drop 10 bucks on the spot.

Same games as always, they add like 1 every 4+ months to the rotation and call it a day.

Stopped using the Wishlist ever since I found out about price trackers like DekuDeals or TrueAchievements. Way more convenient to just check an email when things reach a certain price than scroll through the Wishlist every sale to see the same prices you've seen for years.

This just reminds me TES Blades was such a flop they didn't bother putting it on Xbox or PS. But they kill an actual fun mobile game like Mighty DOOM presumably because they expect Candy Crush-level money from any mobile game, and it was very F2P friendly.

Most of them are really lacking on the 'dynamic' part, and not thought out at all on what parts/how much will be covered by the menus.

@Tasuki That'll happen when you fire everyone who knew what the lore of the universe was and none of them wrote anything down.

@RiverGenie Only ones I had any interest in were the licensed ones like Transformers & Marvel. But given how things are going, I doubt they'll ever come back. Anything that's not CoD, Overwatch, WoW, or Candy Crush will be destroyed and forgotten.

It took them buying the company to give Perks for a F2P game people might actually care about... But between the price hikes of GPU both in actual price and Reward Points needed, I'm just gonna go back to Core. I'll be saving money just buying the games I play on GPU instead of renting them.

Should've only been for PS4 & Switch. Only put it on the Platforms it's not currently on, then if it does good enough release it on the others.