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I'm not sure anything new Microsoft does could appeal to me personally. I'll be waiting for the Remasters of licensed Activision games if they ever happen.

My interest in this will entirely depend on the price and if there's Crossplay for the Co-op, because I know a lot of people who will be getting this, but not on the same Platforms. While QoL changes that the series got over time along with changes to CE itself (we've seen Pure Form Flood added, which will certainly make the Library different for better or worse) are really cool, at the end of the day, it's CE again, and I'd rather wait for a sale if I can't play it with friends.

See games like this in that $20 range make way more sense for a Promotion like this since the sale prices aren't too different unless they're really old. Like why would I buy 1 full priced Lego game to get 1 free, when I could buy 5 or so Lego games with all the DLC on sale for less than or equal to the full price of the 1 game?

@OldGamer999 "Just make new top end AAA games critically acclaimed and they will sell."

Well you see, that's hard to do when most companies fired all the best devs, writers, and ideas people they had to cut corners financially, among other stupid reasons, thinking that just the brands themselves would be enough to sell. And since they can't make good gameplay or stories now, that's how you get these ballooned development times and budgets with a lot of inexperienced people just making something that looks good, but isn't actually a good game. This is why people would rather buy Assassin's Creed Black Flag a third time than try any of the 3 most recent Assassin's Creed games.

The exciting plans are to keep increasing the price of Game Pass until only the hardcore fans who will never leave are funding it completely, which they will do no matter how bad things for Xbox get and how poorly they are treated.

One incompetent company buys another.

@Kieduss Mhhh, and can you explain how searching random people, places, and things isn't 'random ****', but searching movies, games, anime, manga, & their characters is to get me suspended?

I haven't been able to use my Points in months, because if you don't search exactly in the specific way Microsoft wants you to, you get flagged as a bot and there's no guaranteed way to fix it. Would love to use it for the Black Friday Sale, but oh well.

Nothing from Xbox, PlayStation, or Switch 2's official sales. Saw a lot of stuff I wanted, nothing that I can't wait on with the current backlog though. I did get 4 AAA Nintendo games for half price from Target though.

@Banjo- The real sales from Nintendo AAA games are always from places like Best Buy or Walmart. Got TOTK for $30 the year after launch which was a steal even by non-Nintendo standards.

Think the only thing that really popped up on my price tracker is Ninja Gaiden 2 for $15, but that's a normal sale price for it and I'm not gonna pretend I'm looking for many games on Xbox anymore.

@HeavyHoggJP Beat 'Em Ups have always generally been games that are meant for repeat playthroughs, with newer ones usually because the characters play pretty differently.

I'd rather directly support and own the game for $25 than rent it monthly for more.

Wonder if that means the Switch port will be back on the table.

Remember Mighty DOOM? It was a good mobile game. Didn't even last a full year. I have no doubt Microsoft will can it if it doesn't meet their ridiculous expectations.

The few people I know with an Xbox either cancelled or downgraded all the way to Essential. Even if you only own an Xbox and aren't buying games on other Platforms, between the price hikes and limited time in a day, I'd still think it's not worth it.

@TrevorP86 Did you not factor in the Series S, or the fact that a lot of Series X/S games even have Xbox One versions?

I can't really think of an Xbox release other than Starfield (and that turned out to be a dud for me personally) that I had interest in since the early XBO years, that wasn't a port or remake of a 360 or OG Xbox game. Even for games where I'd be willing to buy on all Platforms, Xbox would probably be the last one, and only after a big sale.

@dskatter The MCC would sell well, but from a business perspective it'd be hard to price it accordingly. You can't charge $50+ for a decade game with no changes, but you also can't price it too low because it just has that much content. I can see the logic of remaking each game in order of release at a lower price to get them out there that way, but the lack of multiplayer will also make those hard sells, and not really show off what Halo is/was properly.

I'll probably get it again after a hefty sale and play through it and the official, non-Trophy/Achievement-disabling Creation Club stuff on PS5. Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game, but a good game as a Starfield prototype. Sadly the prototype was better than Starfield itself, I'm still shocked by how much they removed to make it such a bland experience comparatively.

I love the Series X's features, but it's by far the glitchiest console I've ever owned. Just randomly ending my game sessions and sending me to the home screen more than my 360 ever locked up with three times the usage, and at one point I needed to factory reset it because the Home Menu of all things broke.

"With multiple Halo titles in development", all but one of which I'm sure are boneless versions of Bungies Titles getting ports to PS5 like Campaign Evolved.

When they eventually get to ODST it'll be weird without Firefight and weird for Reach without Multiplayer, more so than the other games.

If they're attempting to sell it as a Xbox PC hybrid they'd be shooting themselves in the foot to not make it free online. Guess even Microsoft has enough common sense for that.

Not dead 'yet', as between the massive scaling back and demand for a 30% increase in sales, it won't make it past the next game.

So then surely they won't charge full price for a version with less content, right? And sure since the Co-op is so important, it'll have Crossplay as an option, right??

Price is gonna be a big factor with no Multiplayer. CE Anniversary didn't have it either, but that was a $40 game, and even then it came with a DLC Pack for Reach's Multiplayer. Even if it's $50, they just released Gears 1 with the Campaign and Multiplayer for $40. So IDK how they're gonna market this.

Unless this is going to be a Remake that's barely comparable to the original like FF7, this sounds like a horrible idea, as you're not appealing to the people who like Bungies' games and just offering another Modern FPS to people on other Platforms. Which is insane, because CE has so much you can tweak and work with before even considering such things.

@hisownsidekick I mean almost none of the original staff work there - it's 'Bungie' in name only like a lot of companies are now. Hard to call it a fall when it's more like a discarded shell being propped up by a new owner.

Wouldn't use it even if it didn't have ads.

I'm not sure just Halo CE in 2025/2026 would do that well, as it's pretty limited compared to later games in terms of content. I guess if it's also $40 like Gears that'd be one thing, but there's just so much they could add, and for what used to be a massive IP, you'd think they really wanna show off content in later and modern games like Firefight.

Finally, War in the North 2.

I think people are just fatigued of long running IPs in general, and it's just yet another reason people have been caring more about Indies & AA games. It's not only the same ideas again and again, but of lower quality than the ones people remember fondly.

I mean even if it's just $10 that can get you some cool stuff. Get yourself a backwards 360 game or Powerwash Sim DLC for free.

Not buying this, but I have and will be buying more new games this year than any in a long, long time. Bought Sonic Racing Crossworlds, Slime Rancher 2 (finally leaving Early Access), & Digimon Story Time Stranger, and play on buying Powerwash Sim 2, Marvel Cosmic Invasion, & the He-Man Beat 'Em Up when we get release dates for those.

Series X and PS5 have been massive disappointments. I can't imagine anyone buying one or the other at these prices unless their XBO X or PS4 Pro randomly dies. And even then, they might just be happier with the $600.

@BAMozzy More so than the fan backlash, there's another reason giving up on exclusivity would be Sony shooting themselves in the foot. Without exclusives, it all becomes about the hardware and features. So right away that puts them in direct competition with gaming PCs which there's no way they can beat. But then every choice of a PlayStation or Xbox just comes down to which runs better and has better features. And Microsoft can easily outspend them in both regards. Even now, the Series X just has more features like Quick Resume and game gifting, and the features they both have like Groups are way more primitive on PS.

Felt like they were done with MCC updates. Guess the idea of it coming to PS5 isn't completely dead yet.

Weren't they too afraid to say 'WW2 German' in Indiana Jones? Unless there was some weird ToS from Disney, that doesn't bode well for a new Wolfenstein.

With the licensed ones, for most I don't think that's the issue. Instead I think they're going to do what they started with Oblivion and just slowly churn out a bunch of old games with new coats of paint. Because yeah, they COULD just make the originals Backwards Compatible, but then they couldn't sell them on other Platforms that way. Hasbro has already said they'd love to get the Activision games back out there, so I think what I said is pretty likely.

Minus the EA ones which are just for sports games (and skate 3 which has been repeated multiple times), the actual gaming ones are all for F2P games. Which Sony includes in their basic PS Plus Essential Tier while Microsoft locks them behind the most expensive. And I'd assume if you're paying for GPU's library then you really don't care about F2P stuff.

@TheGameThrifter This, companies use weasel words to trick people into thinking they have better metrics. If 1 million people buy a game, they'll say that. But if it under performs, they'll use players, which includes people playing using a Subscription, who got the game for free, or played but refunded it. And in this case specifically a lot of people got this as a free upgrade, so it's got another factor against it.

Had fun and might actually pick it up now, it's basically Transformed 2. Single Player was okay, though even on Normal the AI felt really aggressive so I'm wondering how tough the others are. Solo online is fun, but the most fun I had was in the 4v4v4 Joker Event with different, rotating bonus objectives and rewards. Between the plane & boat mechanics and the second lap almost always being random, it felt like Mario Kart World conceptually but better. Biggest issue was that the connections were really bad, and people were constantly dropping. But hopefully that's just a Beta issue. Probably getting it for PS5 at launch, but will definitely be getting it for Series and Switch 2 after a good discount.

I don't think you can fix Starfield with just updates. Like you can rework the gameplay sure, but without changing the entire game you can't fix things like there being only 3 cities (that aren't even that big) and an occasional group of houses that would barely count as a village in an Elder Scroll game. Even if you ignore the countless meaningless, copy-pasta'd planets with the same dungeons, there's just... not much there to work with or change in the first place.

I'll get it on PS5 after a decent sale. Own it on Series, but as I own all the games included with GPC, I refuse to pay $60 a year for just online. And I wanna play it Co-op, so RIP.

I pay attention to games news and know what I do and don't want. I don't need ads, especially when at least half of them are for movies that I don't have interest it. The only way ads on the Dashboard, or anywhere but the store for that matter, would be acceptable is if it part of a deal. Like I get ads in every unfilled space but only pay $20 a year for online.

Silksong Release Date carried today's show. Not bad, but way less broad than yesterday as far as appeal goes.

Hopefully you get cool upgrades earlier on. By the end of the first game having all the upgrades made it super fun, but there was no content left to do.

Definitely picking up the He-Man Beat 'Em Up and Cult of the Lamb DLC on launch. I'll pick up the new Lego Batman game eventually but not anytime soon. Sad we didn't get a Powerwash Sim 2 release date, just price confirmation.

I'll be interested in Halo again when Local Co-op returns and 343 can tell a story within a game without relying on cross-media.

Forever is a long time coming.