@SMJ Just off the top of my head, the 360 Halo games, DOOM 1993 and DOOM 2, and the Double Fine XBLA games that Microsoft either personally chose to delist or to no re-list because they want you to pay for Game Pass infinitely instead of own them.
Ubisoft's IPs are worth more than the company while costing less, which is why you hear companies talking about wanting to buy the IPs and not Ubisoft itself. I don't really care who gets Assassin's Creed as long as they change it back to what it used to be, instead of another generic Open World grind game. Rayman would be a good fit for Nintendo, because every game could be the wackiness of Mario Wonder and more difficult than Donkey Kong making it stand out from their other Platformers.
Microsoft and Sony still haven't convinced people they need the current hardware, I doubt many are anticipating the next that aren't already gonna buy them regardless. If anything they might sell more PS5s and Series Xs when the new consoles launch for the people still playing on PS4 & XBO.
I'm still shocked they fumbled this game like they did... I'd be willing to ignore the vast amount of nothing, even on the main planets that should be covered in cities and only have one settlement. But the gameplay is so dumbed down and lacks any meaning that it's just not enjoyable. It just had to be Fallout 4 in space... but the only thing they learned from Fallout 4 was the voiced protag was a bad idea. So Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game because it was made to be Starfield's prototype, but the prototype was better than the end product.
@themightyant No, it's more than just Japanese fans. The controversies have gotten to the point where the non-gamers in Japan are mad too. A major tipping point was them showing off destroyable environments that happened to be a religious shrine, which outraged a lot of people.
Even if you don't care about the endless controversies that got the entire country of Japan to hate Ubisoft, the fact that the majority of devs working on Shadows have never worked on a game before means it's probably not gonna be a good game.
Why even bother including 4 if you're gonna completely gut it? There's a chance it'll still be good as it's own thing, sure. But it won't really be Pro Skater 4, and now we'll never get a proper Remaster of it.
The thing about the new Lego games is if they don't stand out as unique are aren't just flat out great, they flop badly. Because why would I buy a meh new Lego game for $60-70 when I could get half a dozen meh Lego games for half the price with the frequent sales they have?
I find it so bizarre they were willing to make a backwards compatibility program but not do anything to maintain the library of games it offers from being removed. By virtue of the sale licenses expiring and devs delisting their own games, within the next few years it'll get to the point where if you don't already have the games, it's not a feature you can use. To the point it'd likely be a waste of resources to make it work on the next Xbox console.
Aside from that, while I'd love the Activision games being added, I'd rather have the ability to play things like War for Cybertron of MUA online, even if it meant paying for a Remaster.
Stopped using Game Pass Ultimate since the first butchering of the rewards program and haven't missed it in the least. Won't pay for Core as it's a massive scam for someone who owns all the old and cheap games it offers, effectively making it $60 for online and nothing else. I'll gladly buy the MCC again on PS5 to play it online as PS Plus is amazing compared to Core.
I'll never understand investing money in a game that's gonna stop being supported within the calendar year, especially one more people are just renting through Game Pass now. But $20 a Turtle sounds about right as I think SF6 was the same.
I'm of the opinion we need more spin-offs of established IPs in gaming as a whole, it'd especially benefit Microsoft having their own subscription service. As an example, I feel a Halo: Spartan Assault sequel made for console instead of mobile would be a great addition. Have a 5 or 6 hour Campaign with Co-op, a Survival Mode, upgrades, Skulls, & in-game Challenges to unlock for replayability, and make it a budget release in the $20-30 range. I don't know why they're not making more smaller scale, XBLA-style games that'd really do well for filling out the Game Pass catalog.
Really enjoyed the 2 360 Sonic & Sega Racing games (stupid that the first isn't Backwards BTW) and I'm glad to see this will be a culmination of ideas that worked. Team Sonic Racing wasn't a bad idea, but something like that works better as a side Game Mode than a main concept.
@K1LLEGAL Yep. And I played it on Xbox for 10 years. But I don't see a reason to own an Xbox in the future if I can buy all its games on PS or Nintendo consoles, so I'll buy it again on another Platform.
@K1LLEGAL I'd prefer to own games than infinitely rent them, and in addition to not caring about most of the GPU permeant games, the ones I do care about are old and cheap so I own them. Which is why GPC is so unappealing to me. For something like the MCC, I'd rather just buy it again on PS5 and not pay for an extra online service I see no value in.
In all fairness if you're gonna rip-off a Mario Spin-Off game, Strikers is the one likely to be ignored the most by Nintendo. If anything it might be better to have it there to remind people there is in fact a Mario Strikers entry on Switch.
Sad to see it go. They could easily revamp it later on as a retail game, but I doubt WB would make such a good decision at this point with their obsession of chasing live service games.
Considering Microsoft can't manage their gaming studios to save their lives, the plan being just to buy more of them is probably gonna be worse both for Microsoft and the gaming industry as a whole, and end with the Xbox branding being winded down anyways.
Don't most FPSs compensate for controller users by giving them Aim Assist, or at least not giving it to players using mouse and keyboard? And for CoD at least don't they try to match controller with controller and mk with mk?
Better to have it re-made from the ground up than do what they do with Skyrim, which is re-release it without fixing anything and create new bugs for a somehow progressingly worse experience every time.
@Th3_Highlander They specifically only removed the new Avatars that most people didn't know existed. The 360 ones still exist and can be used for games.
It's been so long at this point I don't really care anymore. I love the Marvel and Transformers games, but without the online for games like War for Cybertron and Marvel Ultimate Alliance they'd just 'oh that's neat' rather than things that'd wow me.
If I still cared about Game Pass, this would be a W. Achievements becoming a resource you had to choose between rationing out and stop playing after one or keep playing and burn through them was miserable.
I still call BS on them saying they 'reached the limit with what they could do' with the program, unless the original Xbox One was just that bad. If that's the case now that the XBO is out, maybe the program could be revived for Series consoles that should have no excuses, possibly starting with some Activision games. ... RIP the dream of the two 2024 Transformers projects though.
Although it says a lot about gaming from the XBO/PS4 to Series/PS5 when something that excites the most people is playing old games.
@ZYDIO I can't speak for the DSi as I never bought anything digital with one, but you can still redownload anything purchased on the Wii, Wii U, & 3DS. A few years ago I connected my Wii to the internet for the first time since maybe 2010 and redownloaded a few demos and misc. things just because I had the space. They still give you access to the storefronts, but it limits you more or less to the Purchase History for redownloading. Although Nintendo is the only company so far I've had take away the ability to redownload a game I bought, that being DKC Tropical Freeze. Still not too happy about that.
@Markatron84 Been wanting to try Battletoads, but for some reason Microsoft thought it was a good idea to release a Beat 'Em Up with Local only, and it's already hard enough to get someone with time online.
As much as I love MultiVersus, I don't see it surviving with Warner Bros. forcing them to make the monetization worse every Season. Can only hope they'll add Offline for the Rifts PvE Mode and work out the kinks for Local Play before it inevitably gets axed.
I'll wait for this one. I thought Digital Eclipse would try to make the combat more complex in later updates, but it seems they want it to be pretty simple. Which is sad because these games are just as enjoyable even if you don't know half the attacks. I am glad to know they have six players after you beat the game, seemed really weird before when we only knew there'd be five.
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Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@SMJ Just off the top of my head, the 360 Halo games, DOOM 1993 and DOOM 2, and the Double Fine XBLA games that Microsoft either personally chose to delist or to no re-list because they want you to pay for Game Pass infinitely instead of own them.
Re: Microsoft Has Reportedly Discussed Acquiring IP From Ubisoft
Ubisoft's IPs are worth more than the company while costing less, which is why you hear companies talking about wanting to buy the IPs and not Ubisoft itself. I don't really care who gets Assassin's Creed as long as they change it back to what it used to be, instead of another generic Open World grind game. Rayman would be a good fit for Nintendo, because every game could be the wackiness of Mario Wonder and more difficult than Donkey Kong making it stand out from their other Platformers.
Re: Activision Blizzard Aims To 'Meaningfully Elevate' BlizzCon When It Returns In 2026
Maybe they should meaningfully evaluate their games instead.
Re: Talking Point: If The Next-Gen Xbox Is More 'PC-Like', Will You Still Buy It?
Microsoft and Sony still haven't convinced people they need the current hardware, I doubt many are anticipating the next that aren't already gonna buy them regardless. If anything they might sell more PS5s and Series Xs when the new consoles launch for the people still playing on PS4 & XBO.
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@Ricky-Spanish I wasn't talking about Forza.
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@JON22 How are they preserving games when they constantly delist their own and do nothing to prevent old games from getting removed?
Re: Xbox Fans Have Another Chance To Become A Millionaire With Microsoft Rewards In 2025
Much less than a million after taxes. Still potentially life changing money if you use it correctly though.
Re: Bethesda Provides Update On Starfield DLC & Future Plans For Xbox RPG
I'm still shocked they fumbled this game like they did... I'd be willing to ignore the vast amount of nothing, even on the main planets that should be covered in cities and only have one settlement. But the gameplay is so dumbed down and lacks any meaning that it's just not enjoyable. It just had to be Fallout 4 in space... but the only thing they learned from Fallout 4 was the voiced protag was a bad idea. So Fallout 4 was a bad Fallout game because it was made to be Starfield's prototype, but the prototype was better than the end product.
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
@themightyant No, it's more than just Japanese fans. The controversies have gotten to the point where the non-gamers in Japan are mad too. A major tipping point was them showing off destroyable environments that happened to be a religious shrine, which outraged a lot of people.
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
Even if you don't care about the endless controversies that got the entire country of Japan to hate Ubisoft, the fact that the majority of devs working on Shadows have never worked on a game before means it's probably not gonna be a good game.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Will Add Two-Minute Time Limit To THPS4's Career Mode
Why even bother including 4 if you're gonna completely gut it? There's a chance it'll still be good as it's own thing, sure. But it won't really be Pro Skater 4, and now we'll never get a proper Remaster of it.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
@BacklogBrad Another point of consideration is if the 360 Gears games get delisted and the servers shut down after a Collection releases like Halo.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
PvP Multiplayer would be nice, but if it came down to it I'd take just Campaign Co-op and the Hoard Mode.
Re: Warner Bros. Working On New LEGO Game As Industry Reporter Discusses Studio Closures
The thing about the new Lego games is if they don't stand out as unique are aren't just flat out great, they flop badly. Because why would I buy a meh new Lego game for $60-70 when I could get half a dozen meh Lego games for half the price with the frequent sales they have?
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Would You Love To See Relisted This Year?
I find it so bizarre they were willing to make a backwards compatibility program but not do anything to maintain the library of games it offers from being removed. By virtue of the sale licenses expiring and devs delisting their own games, within the next few years it'll get to the point where if you don't already have the games, it's not a feature you can use. To the point it'd likely be a waste of resources to make it work on the next Xbox console.
Aside from that, while I'd love the Activision games being added, I'd rather have the ability to play things like War for Cybertron of MUA online, even if it meant paying for a Remaster.
Re: Xbox Has Officially Delayed Fable Into 2026
@FatGuyInLilCoat I mean if we're including things like CoD, no Microsoft original ever will be their top game for a year ever again.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Appears To Be Increasing Its Prices For Xbox Game Pass
Stopped using Game Pass Ultimate since the first butchering of the rewards program and haven't missed it in the least. Won't pay for Core as it's a massive scam for someone who owns all the old and cheap games it offers, effectively making it $60 for online and nothing else. I'll gladly buy the MCC again on PS5 to play it online as PS Plus is amazing compared to Core.
Re: Black Ops 6 Season 2 Reloaded Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass With A Huge TMNT Crossover
I'll never understand investing money in a game that's gonna stop being supported within the calendar year, especially one more people are just renting through Game Pass now. But $20 a Turtle sounds about right as I think SF6 was the same.
Re: Talking Point: Five Years On, Would You Want To See A Gears Tactics 2?
I'm of the opinion we need more spin-offs of established IPs in gaming as a whole, it'd especially benefit Microsoft having their own subscription service. As an example, I feel a Halo: Spartan Assault sequel made for console instead of mobile would be a great addition. Have a 5 or 6 hour Campaign with Co-op, a Survival Mode, upgrades, Skulls, & in-game Challenges to unlock for replayability, and make it a budget release in the $20-30 range. I don't know why they're not making more smaller scale, XBLA-style games that'd really do well for filling out the Game Pass catalog.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Confirms SEGA Characters, Extreme Gear, And Much More
Really enjoyed the 2 360 Sonic & Sega Racing games (stupid that the first isn't Backwards BTW) and I'm glad to see this will be a culmination of ideas that worked. Team Sonic Racing wasn't a bad idea, but something like that works better as a side Game Mode than a main concept.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Discounted By 90% On Xbox This Weekend (February 7-10)
@Kaloudz Shame the online doesn't work.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@K1LLEGAL Yep. And I played it on Xbox for 10 years. But I don't see a reason to own an Xbox in the future if I can buy all its games on PS or Nintendo consoles, so I'll buy it again on another Platform.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@K1LLEGAL I'd prefer to own games than infinitely rent them, and in addition to not caring about most of the GPU permeant games, the ones I do care about are old and cheap so I own them. Which is why GPC is so unappealing to me. For something like the MCC, I'd rather just buy it again on PS5 and not pay for an extra online service I see no value in.
Re: 'Mariostro Strikers' Goes Viral As Ridiculous Rip-Off Appears On Xbox
In all fairness if you're gonna rip-off a Mario Spin-Off game, Strikers is the one likely to be ignored the most by Nintendo. If anything it might be better to have it there to remind people there is in fact a Mario Strikers entry on Switch.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@K1LLEGAL For me personally, it's because I don't care about GPU and GPC is awful compared to PS Plus Essential's offerings.
Re: MultiVersus Is Shutting Down, Less Than A Year Since Its Relaunch
Sad to see it go. They could easily revamp it later on as a retail game, but I doubt WB would make such a good decision at this point with their obsession of chasing live service games.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Discounted By 90% On Xbox This Weekend (January 18-19)
I'm still mad and disappointed the online for Duke Nukem 3D: 20th Anniversary World Tour doesn't work, glad I only paid $2 for it on a previous sale.
Re: GTA 6 Raising Prices To '$80 Or Even $100' Could Cause Industry To Follow Suit, Says Analyst
>less people buying new AAA games than ever >'another price increase would help the industry'
This analyst is pretty bad at their job.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Reportedly Chose Buying Studios Over 'Winding Down' Xbox In 2021
Considering Microsoft can't manage their gaming studios to save their lives, the plan being just to buy more of them is probably gonna be worse both for Microsoft and the gaming industry as a whole, and end with the Xbox branding being winded down anyways.
Re: Soapbox: With Xbox Games Now On PS5, Microsoft Needs To Ditch Forced PC Crossplay
Don't most FPSs compensate for controller users by giving them Aim Assist, or at least not giving it to players using mouse and keyboard? And for CoD at least don't they try to match controller with controller and mk with mk?
Re: Rumour: Bethesda's Oblivion Re-Release Will Be 'Fully Remade' By Developer Virtuos
Better to have it re-made from the ground up than do what they do with Skyrim, which is re-release it without fixing anything and create new bugs for a somehow progressingly worse experience every time.
Re: Talking Point: Will 1 Vs. 100 Ever Make A Comeback On Xbox?
@Th3_Highlander They specifically only removed the new Avatars that most people didn't know existed. The 360 ones still exist and can be used for games.
Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Two More Xbox Games Possibly Going Multiplatform In 2025
But for the MCC, will they actually do something about the PC hackers that can get your account banned just by playing with them?
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
Went from competing the same month as Monster Hunter Wilds to competing the same day as Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition.
Re: Cancelled Transformers Game Footage Leaks, And It Actually Looks Pretty Good
Looks like War for Cybertron mixed with the 2007 DS games, and now my day is ruined knowing it's dead.
Re: Soapbox: I Can't Wait To See What Xbox Does With Activision This Year
It's been so long at this point I don't really care anymore. I love the Marvel and Transformers games, but without the online for games like War for Cybertron and Marvel Ultimate Alliance they'd just 'oh that's neat' rather than things that'd wow me.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans Divided Over Changes To 'Rewards' System
If I still cared about Game Pass, this would be a W. Achievements becoming a resource you had to choose between rationing out and stop playing after one or keep playing and burn through them was miserable.
Re: MGS3 Remake Dev Rumoured To Be Working On Oblivion Remastered In Unreal Engine 5
But will it have new glitches and not fix any old ones, like every new version of Skyrim?
Re: Talking Point: Next Year Marks A Decade Since Xbox's Genius Backwards Compatibility Program
I still call BS on them saying they 'reached the limit with what they could do' with the program, unless the original Xbox One was just that bad. If that's the case now that the XBO is out, maybe the program could be revived for Series consoles that should have no excuses, possibly starting with some Activision games. ... RIP the dream of the two 2024 Transformers projects though.
Although it says a lot about gaming from the XBO/PS4 to Series/PS5 when something that excites the most people is playing old games.
Re: Xbox Appears To Be Getting More Ex-PlayStation Exclusives In 2025
Gonna be Lego Horizons because it sold like trash so Sony might as well have it on everything.
Re: Deals: All 60+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Countdown Sale 2024
Why am I not surprised the sales on Black Ops 1 & 2 are worse now that Microsoft owns them.
Re: Here Are The Top 10 Xbox Games Of 2024 According To Metacritic
While a few good ones skipped Xbox, if you like RPGs you feasted this year.
Re: Poll: What Is Your Xbox Game Of The Year For 2024?
Not gonna vote because the only 2024 releases I played were Little Kitty, Big City and MultiVersus.
Re: Best Xbox Christmas Gifts 2024: Xbox Series X Games, Accessories, Game Pass And More!
A PS5 is also an Xbox according to Microsoft, so I think that's a pretty solid Xbox gift right?
Re: Xbox User Insists Some Owned Games Are Being Hidden From Players' Libraries
@Lanmanna Because they really wanted people to buy it on Switch. It is the only game I have never been allowed to redownload on any Platform.
Re: Xbox User Insists Some Owned Games Are Being Hidden From Players' Libraries
@ZYDIO I can't speak for the DSi as I never bought anything digital with one, but you can still redownload anything purchased on the Wii, Wii U, & 3DS. A few years ago I connected my Wii to the internet for the first time since maybe 2010 and redownloaded a few demos and misc. things just because I had the space. They still give you access to the storefronts, but it limits you more or less to the Purchase History for redownloading. Although Nintendo is the only company so far I've had take away the ability to redownload a game I bought, that being DKC Tropical Freeze. Still not too happy about that.
Re: Review: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind (Xbox) - 30 Years In The Making
@Markatron84 Been wanting to try Battletoads, but for some reason Microsoft thought it was a good idea to release a Beat 'Em Up with Local only, and it's already hard enough to get someone with time online.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Offline Mode Arrives Alongside Deep Discount On Xbox
As much as I love MultiVersus, I don't see it surviving with Warner Bros. forcing them to make the monetization worse every Season. Can only hope they'll add Offline for the Rifts PvE Mode and work out the kinks for Local Play before it inevitably gets axed.
Re: Xbox Is Offering Incredible 'Just For You' Deals Right Now, 90% Off Multiple EA Games
EA always doing better Game Pass Deals than the people who own it.
Re: Review: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind (Xbox) - 30 Years In The Making
I'll wait for this one. I thought Digital Eclipse would try to make the combat more complex in later updates, but it seems they want it to be pretty simple. Which is sad because these games are just as enjoyable even if you don't know half the attacks. I am glad to know they have six players after you beat the game, seemed really weird before when we only knew there'd be five.