Lots of nostalgia for this game, but i'm on the fence with the remake. I remember loving this game while simultaneously always being frustrated with how hard it could get. My sense of humor has also changed a lot from those times, and the first game's remake definitely hammered that point home well enough too.
Eh, take your time, i'm good to just play it for what it is at the moment. This game has completely blindsided me with how much I love it and stolen a lot of time away from Xenoblade 3.
I am an unapologetic Bugs Bunny main, and that is unlikely to change even after he gets hit with nerfs.
Yeah, not surprised. The usual suspects harp about the UK on and on as if that’s the only part of the world that matters while ignoring that that’s always been a huge Playstation territory but never seem to bring up the gains in the US. They’re gaining a lot of lost ground here.
I'll just wait until next week. Interested in the game but not interested in putting money into it, at least not before I try it and see if I want to stick with it.
@uptownsoul Again, you're not accounting for the overlap in install bases because you don't care to. The numbers don't show that, they show the narrative you've tried to push, including in other posts where you talk about Xboxes sitting on shelves and collecting dust while PS5s fly off the shelves. Don't try and play that install base **** with receipts like that.
@uptownsoul You're either a fanboy operating in bad faith or a troll operating in bad faith.
Yes, you're buying BOTH the Series S/X version and Xbox One version at once, but you're trying to claim that BOTH the ENTIRE install base of the Xbox One, WHICH PEOPLE HAVE UPGRADED FROM TO THE SERIES S/X and the install base of the SERIES S/X COMBINED Outstripping that of the PS5 (no **** sherlock) is proof the Xbox users DON'T BUY GAMES and WOULDN'T BUY AN INDIE GAME IF IT WASN'T ON GAMEPASS WHILE TRYING TO CLAIM GAMES THAT ARE ON GAMEPASS AS PROOF OF SOMETHING TOWARDS THAT!
That's what started this whole thing you attention stirring fanboy! And with that, I don't have the patience to deal with you, your post history tells me what you're about and why you visit this site, to stir trouble.
@uptownsoul Stuff that's on gamepass will not sell as well as stuff that isn't, that's common sense. You made the claim Stray wouldn't sell if it WASN'T on gamepass, so proceeding to list first party Microsoft games that are on gamepass, which is a major selling point for Xbox at this point, is weird.
"----- Same can be said for PlayStation, so that's a wash...Unless...you have linked proof showing a disparity?" The issue is those numbers are tracked together with Xbox, it's two install bases in one that doesn't account for the difference of people who may have upgraded from Xbox One. PS4 does not have that problem, but Xbox One was a lot less successful than the PS4, by large quantities. And even then, notice how low the sales are for PS4, and they're accounted for, and a much, much less successful console in the Xbox One than the PS4 is rolled up into the Series S/X which is by and large considered a step up and course correction from the Xbox One days. That can't be factored in because of the way these numbers are tracked with Microsoft, but it isn't hard to do some thinking and come to that conclusion.
"Please go back to my comment #60...where I showed (with links) that the PS5 versions outsold the PS4 versions too." Again, a lot of people, at least from what I know from where i'm at in the US, are waiting to get a PS5 before they buy next gen versions of games, and don't even have an Xbox.
Again, the only issue I have is you saying that Xbox users don't buy games, when multiplats pull in decent numbers even if not as much as Playstation. No, they're not going to buy games already on gamepass a large part of the time unless on sale or when it's leaving, and first party microsoft games that are gamepass guarantees are going to lose out on upfront sales because of it. But AGAIN, 30% of sales for the new RESIDENT EVIL game when Playstation had a marketing deal with that game is not nothing in terms of overall sales, my issue AGAIN is you claiming Xbox users DON'T BUY GAMES!
@uptownsoul Hey, I provided the example you asked for and tried to say it didn't count, but either way, you also made the claim that Stray wouldn't sell on Xbox if it came to it without gamepass and haven't backed that up, so throw that out too.
I think you're using raw numbers to mask the fact that in tracking install bases for Xbox and keeping the numbers the same, it doesn't account for the fact that a lot of the install base on Series S/X are those same people that bought an Xbox One and upgraded. I sincerely doubt Xbox One is pulling in much at this point.
PS5s are still hard to get, a lot of people are either still playing and buying on their PS4 while waiting to get a PS5 or are holding off on buying the games until they get said PS5, because demand is higher for that console. The Series S on the other hand is very, VERY easy to get these days, and reasonably priced, and Series X also isn't much harder to come by these days. It is also a comparatively much smaller install base on the whole than Playstation. There are factors those charts don't account for, but even with all that, again, 30% is not nothing in terms of sales on a multiplat game. I have issues with the claim that Xbox users don't buy games just because gamepass exists.
@uptownsoul I'm saying that because you asked for a small game that sold well, so I said Death's Door. You then made a claim that it only sold that well because of PC numbers and I asked you to prove that, which you haven't.
It's also curious that Xbox and PC are quite close in percent on Elden Ring, and Xbox is far ahead on Resident Evil Village.
Either way, roughly 30% of sales on a multiplat isn't nothing and honestly proves how tired the 'Xbox users don't buy games' narrative is. A lot more folks care about Playstation, I have no issue with that or caring about that, sales are going to be higher there. Doesn't mean that Xbox players aren't buying games.
@uptownsoul Can you provide the numbers showing how many copies sold on PC and on Xbox? Because this really does seem to be continuing the ‘Xbox users don’t buy games’ narrative that is still tedious at this point.
It was marketed decently well on Xbox and PC, didn’t hit Gamepass initially, and it sold well. Stray is a higher profile indie in the same vein that I’m sure would do fine numbers on Xbox if it doesn’t come to Gamepass.
It’s probably timed. If any indie game is exclusive to something it’s pretty much Switch or PC these days, with Xbox and Playstation doing timed deals.
Makes sense, while in general indies are what I care about more these days (Stray looks more interesting than anything else Sony has been marketing, including Dad of War 2) limiting them to Xbox or Playstation would probably legitimately kneecap sales.
@NEStalgia Rumble in controllers always gets turned off for me, messes with my bum shoulder so dual sense and HD rumble miss me with their supposed revolutionary uses. That does sound pretty neat for people that care though.
Sort of. It was more Playstation pissing away all the good will I had with them by going all in on boring AAA open world/Oscar bait games while abandoning their quirkier stuff than anything Xbox did. Though Xbox has done a good job courting indie stuff and saving me a bit of money when money is getting tighter.
I definitely agree with a lot of the sentiments in these comments about the $70 pricing being a bit much.
If you can afford it and can self-justify it, you do you. I'm not here to throw shade at 2K, Sony, or anyone for raising the prices, or even anyone that pays those prices. I can only speak for me, and in line with what NEStalgia said, it's one of those things where I start to second guess what i'm willing to spend for video games, with my own costs going up, my particular taste in games being pretty well covered by what's on gamepass, it needs to be something I care A LOT about to spend $70, and there are very, very few games that'd fall under that category.
I do find it amusing that people are treating a special website exclusive limited physical run of Psychonauts 2 as some smoking gun that Microsoft is doing the exact same thing companies that have set $70 as a base price are doing though.
In the context of Ubisoft...yeah, this pirate game ain't gonna cut it for $70. Hell, i'm second guessing buying Sparks of Hope for $60 now with where i'm at and I loved the original Mario + Rabbids so we'll see how this all works out for them.
I'll grab the artbook for sure. I am an absolute sucker for a great artbook, especially one dedicated to the phenomenal world of Psychonauts.
The physical game...it's tempting to get just to display next to my OG Xbox copy of the first, but I really don't buy many physical games anymore for a reason, and especially with living costs going up and getting pickier about games I actually buy, I could probably put it towards something that isn't already readily available on gamepass.
What I find interesting is that, despite the horsepower difference, I genuinely think the real strength Xbox has (aside from gamepass, which does factor into this) is the AA and indie market being thriving without the limitations of the Switch in terms of power. Gamepass gives you a curated selection of those titles which, as the economy implodes on itself in the US, may become a more appealing option to some people over buying individual games at a premium.
AAA gaming is their weakness, but if you don’t care about that (because as much as it is harped on about, not everyone cares about these kinds of games, I find they run together and lack variety a lot these days) then Xbox has its appeal.
I have a Series X over an S, but in a lot of ways I think the S is the real winner in terms of what I think is the biggest strength they have. A reasonable way to have a solidly powerful console that’ll give easy access to a wide variety of games at an affordable cost.
The horsepower thing doesn’t matter to me since most of my Xbox time goes to indie games and backwards compatible boosted games right now. But those 120fps boosted games are slick.
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Re: Talking Point: Can You Remember The First Game You Ever Completed?
Yoshi’s Island
Re: Another 11 Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass Soon (September 2022)
Don’t sleep on Bug Fables before it leaves. Fantastic little RPG.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy To Include 'PlayStation Exclusive Quest'
Annoying practice tbh, though as has been pointed out it won’t change hearts and minds in terms of where people will play Hogwarts Legacy.
As for me, not getting it either way because its Harry Potter and I have opinions on that franchise and the woman who wrote those books.
Re: Pick One: Which Of These 'TBA' Xbox Games Are You Most Excited For?
Fable far and away.
Re: Review: Destroy All Humans! 2 - Reprobed - A Shiny Remake That's Unashamedly Stuck In The Past
Lots of nostalgia for this game, but i'm on the fence with the remake. I remember loving this game while simultaneously always being frustrated with how hard it could get. My sense of humor has also changed a lot from those times, and the first game's remake definitely hammered that point home well enough too.
Re: Reaction: Will Xbox Follow PlayStation In Raising Console Prices?
Good to see the usual suspects defending yet another anti-consumer move from Sony on the Xbox site.
Re: Pick One: What's Your Favourite 'Free' Game On Xbox Right Now?
MultiVersus is the first game with a battle pass that’s F2P that I’ve ever given a crap about.
Re: These Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (August 8-12)
Cult of the Lamb!
Pre-bought and installed, been keen on this since the first trailer came out.
Re: MultiVersus Season 1 Delayed Ahead Of Official Xbox Unveiling
Eh, take your time, i'm good to just play it for what it is at the moment. This game has completely blindsided me with how much I love it and stolen a lot of time away from Xenoblade 3.
I am an unapologetic Bugs Bunny main, and that is unlikely to change even after he gets hit with nerfs.
Re: MultiVersus Is The Most Popular Free-To-Play Game On Xbox Right Now
Been playing a lot more of this than I expected. Definitely a Bugs main!
Re: PlayStation Seems Worried About Xbox Owning Call Of Duty
Sony will be fine.
If anything I hope CoD gets dialed back to coming out every other year when all is said and done.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 30-31)
Xenoblade 3 and MultiVersus
These two will realistically keep me occupied for months honestly, not just this weekend.
Re: Xbox Had Its Highest Sales Year Ever In FY22, Analysis Shows
Here before the usual suspects like Dezzy bring up ‘but the UK!’
Re: Xbox Summer Promo Is Offering Up Bonus Microsoft Reward Points
Was already planning to buy Cult of the Lamb so that’s half of it right there.
Re: Xbox Series X And S Have Been Next-Gen 'Market Leaders' In The US
Yeah, not surprised. The usual suspects harp about the UK on and on as if that’s the only part of the world that matters while ignoring that that’s always been a huge Playstation territory but never seem to bring up the gains in the US. They’re gaining a lot of lost ground here.
Re: MultiVersus Is Now Officially Free To Play For Everyone On Xbox
Played this legit for 5 hours today with one of my best friends.
I am a Bugs Bunny main. I will not be moved from him.
This is a seriously polished game from top to bottom and a genuine competitor to Smash, I think a F2P game finally got me.
Re: MultiVersus Fans Are Loving The Game, But Hating The Monetization
I'll just wait until next week. Interested in the game but not interested in putting money into it, at least not before I try it and see if I want to stick with it.
Re: Grounded Is Getting TV Adaptation By Star Wars Writer & Halo Director
I’m assuming it’ll be an animated show. Random, but okay.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul Again, you're not accounting for the overlap in install bases because you don't care to. The numbers don't show that, they show the narrative you've tried to push, including in other posts where you talk about Xboxes sitting on shelves and collecting dust while PS5s fly off the shelves. Don't try and play that install base **** with receipts like that.
Welcome to my ignore list, pony or troll.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul You're either a fanboy operating in bad faith or a troll operating in bad faith.
Yes, you're buying BOTH the Series S/X version and Xbox One version at once, but you're trying to claim that BOTH the ENTIRE install base of the Xbox One, WHICH PEOPLE HAVE UPGRADED FROM TO THE SERIES S/X and the install base of the SERIES S/X COMBINED Outstripping that of the PS5 (no **** sherlock) is proof the Xbox users DON'T BUY GAMES and WOULDN'T BUY AN INDIE GAME IF IT WASN'T ON GAMEPASS WHILE TRYING TO CLAIM GAMES THAT ARE ON GAMEPASS AS PROOF OF SOMETHING TOWARDS THAT!
That's what started this whole thing you attention stirring fanboy! And with that, I don't have the patience to deal with you, your post history tells me what you're about and why you visit this site, to stir trouble.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul Stuff that's on gamepass will not sell as well as stuff that isn't, that's common sense. You made the claim Stray wouldn't sell if it WASN'T on gamepass, so proceeding to list first party Microsoft games that are on gamepass, which is a major selling point for Xbox at this point, is weird.
"----- Same can be said for PlayStation, so that's a wash...Unless...you have linked proof showing a disparity?" The issue is those numbers are tracked together with Xbox, it's two install bases in one that doesn't account for the difference of people who may have upgraded from Xbox One. PS4 does not have that problem, but Xbox One was a lot less successful than the PS4, by large quantities. And even then, notice how low the sales are for PS4, and they're accounted for, and a much, much less successful console in the Xbox One than the PS4 is rolled up into the Series S/X which is by and large considered a step up and course correction from the Xbox One days. That can't be factored in because of the way these numbers are tracked with Microsoft, but it isn't hard to do some thinking and come to that conclusion.
"Please go back to my comment #60...where I showed (with links) that the PS5 versions outsold the PS4 versions too." Again, a lot of people, at least from what I know from where i'm at in the US, are waiting to get a PS5 before they buy next gen versions of games, and don't even have an Xbox.
Again, the only issue I have is you saying that Xbox users don't buy games, when multiplats pull in decent numbers even if not as much as Playstation. No, they're not going to buy games already on gamepass a large part of the time unless on sale or when it's leaving, and first party microsoft games that are gamepass guarantees are going to lose out on upfront sales because of it. But AGAIN, 30% of sales for the new RESIDENT EVIL game when Playstation had a marketing deal with that game is not nothing in terms of overall sales, my issue AGAIN is you claiming Xbox users DON'T BUY GAMES!
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul Hey, I provided the example you asked for and tried to say it didn't count, but either way, you also made the claim that Stray wouldn't sell on Xbox if it came to it without gamepass and haven't backed that up, so throw that out too.
I think you're using raw numbers to mask the fact that in tracking install bases for Xbox and keeping the numbers the same, it doesn't account for the fact that a lot of the install base on Series S/X are those same people that bought an Xbox One and upgraded. I sincerely doubt Xbox One is pulling in much at this point.
PS5s are still hard to get, a lot of people are either still playing and buying on their PS4 while waiting to get a PS5 or are holding off on buying the games until they get said PS5, because demand is higher for that console. The Series S on the other hand is very, VERY easy to get these days, and reasonably priced, and Series X also isn't much harder to come by these days. It is also a comparatively much smaller install base on the whole than Playstation. There are factors those charts don't account for, but even with all that, again, 30% is not nothing in terms of sales on a multiplat game. I have issues with the claim that Xbox users don't buy games just because gamepass exists.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul I'm saying that because you asked for a small game that sold well, so I said Death's Door. You then made a claim that it only sold that well because of PC numbers and I asked you to prove that, which you haven't.
It's also curious that Xbox and PC are quite close in percent on Elden Ring, and Xbox is far ahead on Resident Evil Village.
Either way, roughly 30% of sales on a multiplat isn't nothing and honestly proves how tired the 'Xbox users don't buy games' narrative is. A lot more folks care about Playstation, I have no issue with that or caring about that, sales are going to be higher there. Doesn't mean that Xbox players aren't buying games.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul Can you provide the numbers showing how many copies sold on PC and on Xbox? Because this really does seem to be continuing the ‘Xbox users don’t buy games’ narrative that is still tedious at this point.
It was marketed decently well on Xbox and PC, didn’t hit Gamepass initially, and it sold well. Stray is a higher profile indie in the same vein that I’m sure would do fine numbers on Xbox if it doesn’t come to Gamepass.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul Death’s Door before it hit gamepass sold quite well actually
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@uptownsoul As Dusk Falls looks boring tbh. Stray looks good.
Though the ‘it won’t sell on Xbox because gamepass exists’ narrative is tedious at this point.
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
It’s probably timed. If any indie game is exclusive to something it’s pretty much Switch or PC these days, with Xbox and Playstation doing timed deals.
Makes sense, while in general indies are what I care about more these days (Stray looks more interesting than anything else Sony has been marketing, including Dad of War 2) limiting them to Xbox or Playstation would probably legitimately kneecap sales.
@NEStalgia Rumble in controllers always gets turned off for me, messes with my bum shoulder so dual sense and HD rumble miss me with their supposed revolutionary uses. That does sound pretty neat for people that care though.
Re: You'll Be Able To Try MultiVersus For Free On Xbox This Month
Definitely looking forward to this one
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 16-17)
Ramming my head against postgame Hollow Knight mostly. Replaying Mario Rabbids a bit as well since I’m getting a bit excited for the sequel.
Re: Talking Point: What Were Your Favourite Xbox Live Arcade Games On 360?
Bastion, Dust An Elysian Tail, Super Meat Boy, Braid, and the Dishwasher games (which I still lament never became backwards compatible)
Re: Talking Point: Did The Series X|S Bring You Back To Xbox? If So, How Come?
Sort of. It was more Playstation pissing away all the good will I had with them by going all in on boring AAA open world/Oscar bait games while abandoning their quirkier stuff than anything Xbox did. Though Xbox has done a good job courting indie stuff and saving me a bit of money when money is getting tighter.
Re: Ubisoft Moves To $70 Price Point With Next-Gen-Only Skull & Bones
I definitely agree with a lot of the sentiments in these comments about the $70 pricing being a bit much.
If you can afford it and can self-justify it, you do you. I'm not here to throw shade at 2K, Sony, or anyone for raising the prices, or even anyone that pays those prices. I can only speak for me, and in line with what NEStalgia said, it's one of those things where I start to second guess what i'm willing to spend for video games, with my own costs going up, my particular taste in games being pretty well covered by what's on gamepass, it needs to be something I care A LOT about to spend $70, and there are very, very few games that'd fall under that category.
I do find it amusing that people are treating a special website exclusive limited physical run of Psychonauts 2 as some smoking gun that Microsoft is doing the exact same thing companies that have set $70 as a base price are doing though.
In the context of Ubisoft...yeah, this pirate game ain't gonna cut it for $70. Hell, i'm second guessing buying Sparks of Hope for $60 now with where i'm at and I loved the original Mario + Rabbids so we'll see how this all works out for them.
Re: Two Intriguing Indies Get August & September Release Dates For Xbox
Cursed to Golf looks like the funnest Golf game this side of Golf Story. Looking forward to it.
Re: Ubisoft's Skull & Bones Officially Sets Sail On Xbox This November
I’ll play One Piece Odyssey instead.
Re: Two Ubisoft Forward Events Announced, Starting With Skull & Bones This Week
Think i'll stick with One Piece Odyssey for my pirate game this year thanks.
Re: As Dusk Falls Is Ready To Pre-Install With Xbox Game Pass
51 gigs!?
Nah, not right now thanks. Maybe another time.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Physical Version Slated For Xbox This September, Bonuses Included
I'll grab the artbook for sure. I am an absolute sucker for a great artbook, especially one dedicated to the phenomenal world of Psychonauts.
The physical game...it's tempting to get just to display next to my OG Xbox copy of the first, but I really don't buy many physical games anymore for a reason, and especially with living costs going up and getting pickier about games I actually buy, I could probably put it towards something that isn't already readily available on gamepass.
Re: Biomutant Is Coming To Xbox Series X|S As Free Next-Gen Upgrade
Well I own it, so maybe I’ll give it another shot
Re: Multiple Yakuza Games Have Been Re-Added To Xbox Game Pass
Such an incredible series that I made sure to buy all the entries of in deep sales while it was all on Gamepass. Worth owning this series.
Like A Dragon is unironically one of my favorite JRPGs and Ichiban reminds me of Sora from Kingdom Hearts but, y’know, written with depth and nuance.
Re: Aaron Greenberg Teases 'A Lot More' Unannounced Xbox Games In The Works
Can one of them be Banjo?
Re: Lollipop Chainsaw Remake Officially Announced For 2023 Release
Great game, looking forward to this
Re: Digital Foundry Host Says Xbox Series X Wins Most Console Comparisons
What I find interesting is that, despite the horsepower difference, I genuinely think the real strength Xbox has (aside from gamepass, which does factor into this) is the AA and indie market being thriving without the limitations of the Switch in terms of power. Gamepass gives you a curated selection of those titles which, as the economy implodes on itself in the US, may become a more appealing option to some people over buying individual games at a premium.
AAA gaming is their weakness, but if you don’t care about that (because as much as it is harped on about, not everyone cares about these kinds of games, I find they run together and lack variety a lot these days) then Xbox has its appeal.
I have a Series X over an S, but in a lot of ways I think the S is the real winner in terms of what I think is the biggest strength they have. A reasonable way to have a solidly powerful console that’ll give easy access to a wide variety of games at an affordable cost.
Re: Digital Foundry Host Says Xbox Series X Wins Most Console Comparisons
The horsepower thing doesn’t matter to me since most of my Xbox time goes to indie games and backwards compatible boosted games right now. But those 120fps boosted games are slick.
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox This Week (July 4-8)
Definitely grabbing Klonoa
Re: Azure Striker Gunvolt Trilogy Announced For Xbox, First Game Out Now
Inti does what Capdon’t
Re: Return To Monkey Island Won't Be Coming To Xbox Anytime Soon
It’ll be on Xbox and PlayStation eventually
That said I ain’t waiting, I love Monkey Island. Day 1 on Switch.
Re: Pick One: Which Of These Upcoming Game Pass Launches Are You Most Excited About?
Silksong and it isn’t even a contest
Re: AI: The Somnium Files - Nirvana Initiative Out Today On Xbox, And It's Getting Great Reviews
Ended up buying it, will play a bit this weekend. Loved the first game and played it on Switch when it came out.
Bought the sequel on Xbox to do my part of showing there is a crowd of people with Xbox as their primary console that do want to play Japanese games.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About Sonic Origins
The loss of Ice Cap Zone’s music is a blow, but not a deal breaker.
Re: Pick One: Which Of These Fallout Games Is Your Favourite?
New Vegas runs laps around every other option.