Digital Foundry Host Says Xbox Series X Wins Most Console Comparisons

The only 2 things I dislike with the series x is the limited built in storage and the storage expansion module. Would have rather seen they add a nvme storage slot

Oh no, an Xbox site is talking about a time when Xbox has an advantage over a competitor. I'm very upset that I took the time to visit here and they're talking about a console that they like favorably. They should just constantly trash the subject console of the site and praise everything else!

A different picture to how it started when they were comparing games like devil may cry ect.

Tbh I can’t stand Digital foundry, they’re such fanboy bait. And any ‘victory’ Xbox has during these comparisons is instantly downplayed anyway when they compare it to the PC ports…which is never a £450 pc. So go figure.

They’re existence is to sell insecure gamers the dream of if they press their eyes against their tv screen they’ll notice a shadow off in the distance is 10% darker than on the other platform. Easy money.
They come across as having no genuine enthusiasm or chemistry with one another… because they know it’s all ultimately meaningless. And it will become more meaningless as we get closer and closer to a streaming dominated future.

These stories are frankly rediculous. Is this format so dead that this passes as news? This site gets precious little engagement at the best of times, but click bIait articles fanning the flames of console wars is not the answer.
We all know series x is powerfull, it just has precious little software to show it.

@Titntin but power doesn't mean nothing is this day and age, the switch is the perfect example, it's so underpowered yet has sold over 100 million and it's first party games sell 20 million plus, xbox has the most "powerful" console but has the least sales, those two bits of info tell us all we need to know. And that's power and graphics mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Especially in this case when we're talking about 1-5 frames per second difference.

@void5400 you can by an adaptor and it's NMVe

Xbox series x is by far the better console all round for many good reasons.
Power, design, ease of memory update the list goes on. An amazing and better achievement console wise than the PS5.

Hang on there is a but.
Get some top end AAA games out that show what the power of the dam console can do.
Im being honest, even I’m fed up with looking at FH5 and HFW and thinking what Halo Infinite could have been graphically, Halo Ring environment and effects wise.
And being honest I’m very reserved about Starfields outside environments, looking not that great as well.

@UltimateOtaku91 the Switch is awful and it can barely handle the games it has on it, you have to buy a pro controller because the ones you get with it are awful, it only has a few games for it worth buying and it doesn't look great hooked up to a TV. If you want a handheld and you're an adult you buy the Steam Deck as it's much better and it has much better games library. The Xbox is doing much better now and it Gamepass is really good and the fact that you can play games on your phone or tablet is really good, I never play my Switch and I regret buying it, I hardly have any games on it as there's much to buy worth it and playing games in 4K dose make a difference to me, if I wanted to play good games that's not in 4K I would just go back to older consoles

@tartanross can't be that awful if it's sold 110 million consoles in just 5 years.

Also it's first party games all run and look fine on tv, but I agree it does need a pro controller to play games as the joy con's don't feel right for TV play.

Playing game pass on mobile phones though is also a miss, you have to buy a controller and clip or buy an expensive device such as a razer kishi, otherwise games are awful to play with touch screen control's

I'm happy with the power of both my Series X & PS5!
It's amazing to play so many games new & old at 60 to 120fps on $500 consoles!

Microsoft did a great job with backward-compatibility. The Series X is so quiet. And I prefer the memory card style SSD Xbox went with compared to the M.2 storage Sony chose.

Xbox Series X, LG C1 OLED TV, & Elite Series 2 controller is the best combo to enjoy the Series X!
Now bring on the exclusives!

@UltimateOtaku91
I agree mate, i have both consoles. PS has delivered me some genuine new stuff, and xbox just hasn't.
Power means nothing unless you have software that uses it, so this 12Mflop rubbish means nothing unless you simply want to run old software better, which is a decent use. I am content with the hardware (contoller aside), but its tech pushing AAAs that I bought it for and its not produced. Hopefully that ends next year, but xbox fans should not have had to wait so long...

The horsepower thing doesn’t matter to me since most of my Xbox time goes to indie games and backwards compatible boosted games right now. But those 120fps boosted games are slick.

@UltimateOtaku91 The Switch is a system designed to run Switch exclusive games. Third party ones really don’t run very well on it, some it has to run from the cloud as it’s not powerful enough for them like Dying Light 2.

To me the power of the Series X is great. Not surprised to see it performs better then the PS5.

@IronMan30 it's really sad going on a Xbox site if you're not a fan and it was an independent gaming site that did this. It's not like the other sites do articles similar about other consoles

@tartanross Yes I read about it, would have been handier if it was natively supported. Hopefully there will be bigger storage expansion cards in the future from others than just Seagate

@Titntin also as with previous generations the longer the gen goes on the better the games become, at the moment we are seeing games that id class as being last gen just with better frame rates, I haven't seen and jaw dropping groahics or amazing use of RT yet. Only ones close to that are Ratchet and clank and forza horizon 5 and even then we know they both can do netter

@S1ayeR74 yeah I agree with you there, even then only first and second party exclusives look and run well, third party exclusives like rune factory 5, disgaea 6 and shin megami tensei 5 all perform quite badly. They are in need of a switch pro even if it's just to make these third games run better

I think it’s not a matter of power but better optimization the 2 machines are quite powerful and with cross platform it’s hard to judge what caused the difference between power and optimization.

@void5400 i kinda agree, but only due to price on expandable memory... the memory card is a much nicer way of doing it expecially if you wanna bring your games to a friends or family members house... i say this as im sitting her at my fatherrs for the 4th brought my memory expansion to his house plugged it in his series x and now me and family are all playing my games without waiting on downloads or having to open a system up to swap memory...but outside this very niche thing the price is just way to much for it..

@UltimateOtaku91 I know lot's of people like me who have them or sold them because they don't have many games for it and most people don't have it as a main source for gaming, sales don't mean anything because the no1 selling film doesn't mean it's the best film. Lot's of people buy the new models to replace the other one's like the OLED, they should of had that in the first place. Sales don't matter and look at how in demand the Steam Deck is and it's selling for 3x the value on Ebay just now for a pre order, it's reviews are really good and it has really good games on it as Steam has a big library

@Dezzy70 absolutely agree with everything you said there.

I feel the Series X is the better console, the design alone is way better than the abomination that is the PS5, they’ve packed a ton of power into a small quiet little box. Prefer the UI also and Quick resume can be great.

It’s slim pickings however with games to show off it’s power. I watch DF now and again and they barely even mention an Xbox advantage in their videos even if there is one, so this is a little bizarre to suddenly come out with.

@tartanross oh Im not saying it's best console far from it, but I was just pointing out that the majority of people don't care about graphics and power and the switch sales show that.

I am interested in the steam deck, it looks good and reviews are good and steam has a lot of great sales and even new releases are cheaper than they are on consoles. So once it becomes more available I'm deffo picking one up

@Titntin I don't know what new stuff you're speaking about, I played one of the games they came out on the PS3 and I didn't really like it, I haven't seen anything on it worth buying and I heard people weren't liking Horizon Forbidden West as it got boring, I never finished the first one but it's meant to be better.

@UltimateOtaku91 most people do care about it and that's why PC sales are much higher and PlayStation is higher than Nintendo. Not everyone has a 4K TV yet and you can get Xbox in your TV now without a console as consoles are expensive in some countries. None of my friends own a Switch and I have never seen anyone play one when I have been out or traveling

@tartanross Yes, people do that and it really doesn't make sense to me. If you go to a site that is open about its biases, you shouldn't complain when you see that on display. But people act surprised when it happens. It's like going to a shoe store and complaing to the clerk that there are shoes on display.

@UltimateOtaku91
It is interesting. Gamers sit there and analyze how many sales there are of consoles, but don't analyze the sales of chips, drinks, cars, phones, tablets, etc.

I don't know what it is about sales and consoles. But this is a dead horse topic. Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony are well entrenched and making money off of gaming and console gaming. Any fear anyone has that any of the three are exiting the console world is just purely unfounded. ON the Microsoft front... With the Activision-Blizzard deal, the chances that they are exiting are zero. Same with Sony and their recent studio purchases. And Nintendo has been having too much success to leave.

If there is no danger of a console vendor leaving then the argument of console sales is a red herring. People don't say Ferrari is going to leave the car industry because they sell way less cars then Toyota.

LOL , we are not here to fuel console wars …. BUT , we just mention it. ( knowing that it will certainly lead to console war comments )

Series X is just not more powerful but it also has better features that you're more likely to benefit from, such as quick resume, high-range VRR support, Dolby Atmos, Smart Delivery, free upgrades, quiet performance, etc.

The people that think that Digital Foundry is fanboy trash haven't watched their videos. They have been covering all platforms for years and have encouraged developers to fix their games. It's not about "buy Xbox or PS", they actually defend and justify the awful Switch ports.

@tartanross
I assume you are asking what I played on ps5 that I liked, not ps3?
Demons Souls remake is excellent, Ratchet and Clank was also great and genuine next gen. Returnal was also fine, with sound design in particular being very strong. Miles Morales is a good early next gen title too. Additionally Ive enjoyed the directors cuts of both Ghost of Tushima and death stranding @4k 60 on the machine. Most people will corretly tell you HFW is a fantastic title
, i got 240 hours of entertainment with it and its tge best looking open world yet made imo.
You can like what you like of course, but pretending Sony has not at least partially delivered on the new gen is silly.
I want the same for my series x and havent had it. Even fh5 has too much pop in so its 30fps to avoid it, I played it 4k 60 on pc instead, but was frustrated I had to.

I dont think im alone in wanting more from MS.

Folks....an Xbox site pointing out that the new Xbox is performing really well isn't unexpected is it. The SSDs on the the new gen consoles are the biggest improvements to me personally. Also the lack of noise they make. The X is whisper quiet.

Breaking news the more powerful console is in fact more powerful. Although that alone isn't the reason most people will buy a system if one has more of a selection of games that aren't available else where it has more of a chance of selling more even if the performance isn't as good overall. Most don't obsess about that as long as they have fun playing it.

Can't really say anyone should be surprised that a system that everyone knew was more powerful was actually going to show that though. If history has taught us anything the most powerful system on paper isn't always the best seller.

More power to Xbox but software sells hardware, it's never the other way around.

Look no further than the PS1, PS2, X360, Wii, PS4 Pro, Switch, etc.

@Fenbops
What would show off the series x power and usually does with consoles is the in house studios with their AAA games mainly on in house engines like Forzatech.
Apart from FH5 and possibly FM, there is nothing coming from Xbox studios in the next 12 that looks truly AAA graphically amazing.

And that is why the general publics imagination will not be set alight and shouting I must get an Xbox or gamepass. And that is why series s and x consoles are no gathering dust on UK shop shelves.

@Titntin not into remakes and I don't like Spider-Man plus it's just DLC. The best-selling games on the last PlayStation were not exclusives and the best rated games weren't and it was 6 to 4 for exclusives. There's good games coming out and last gen slows stuff down. The best games coming out this year isn't exclusives. Elden Ring is a much better game than Demon's Souls and I didn't like the first one. Death Standing was a really boring game and I never bothered with the other one. Nothing impressive to play on it and I seen others complain and just bringing out games from the last consoles isn't good. I look forward to new games coming out and not remakes

@Dezzy70 you're on the wrong site then and Gamepass is very popular and Xbox SX does sell well and they would sell a lot more if they could make more if it wasn't for a semiconductor shortage

@tartanross hey, you asked what I enjoyed and I told you.
I couldnt care less if you want to shoot them to the ground, you do you, but its quite clear your views are not those of the majority of gamers.

@tartanross
Are you blind and you are from UK?
Go check Smyths toys stock in store on their website. Most of it has been there for over a month and selling extremely slowly Series S and X
and that’s just one store easy to check.

Xbox sales in the UK, what sales lots of stock everywhere not selling.

@Dezzy70 you’re not wrong but I’d argue it’s not been much better on the other side. There’s only a handful of PS5 exclusives that take advantage of the extra power. The PS5 also has the advantage of being the ‘in’ thing it’s the trendy console to have.

90% of what I’ve been playing and looking at my friends lists have been cross gen games on either console. That’s kinda just where we still are.

@tartanross I would have to point out you must not be big into indies or smaller A titles. And based on the comments to others you must have specific games you’re looking for as well. Switch has some great exclusives (non first party) I’ve played on it over the last few years. I own all 3 consoles and right now my Switch gets as much if not more use than my PS5 and Series. 3rd party AAA is great on PS/Xbox, but lots of great things on Switch if you know where to look and have varied tastes.

It’s all opinion anyway, but I can barely keep up with games this year as plenty has come out on GamePass, PS5, and Switch.

@Fenbops
Yes the PS5 is the trendy thing to have in the UK and probably along with the Switch.
It is where Xbox needs to be, in the Xbox360 days it was trendy to have and showing friends gears of war made them want to buy one.
Even FH5 in the UK didn’t really manage to give the Xbox that spark back and Halo Infinite definitely didn’t.
The thing is what I have seen so far from the showcase there is nothing in there that will get Xbox that trendy must have the console vibe, like Sony and Nintendo get with some of their big hitting games.

I am not really sure at this stage how or if ever Xbox will get anywhere near the Xbox360 days.
2 years in November 2022 and definitely not, middle of 2023 from what we have seen so far definitely not.

Nintendo with release BOTW2, probably a new Mario platform game and some MK8 tracks.

Sony GOW2, Spider-Man 2 and probably something else.

Xbox has no chance against that from what we have seen so far in the showcase against that lot, from a must trendy console point of view.

Xbox = Exclusives & multiplatform games.
PS = Exclusives & games I want to replay.
Nintendo = Exclusives & games that benefit from the unique features.

This is the best way that I've found to approach it, and it's been this way since the PSWii60 days.

The form factor of the Xbox Series X alone makes a mockery of the gigantic, downright hideous PS5 and the fact that it delivers a frankly astonishing 12TF of computing power makes it a marvel of engineering. Add to that the ecosystem MS built around its hardware and the choice between the XSX or a PS5 was incredibly easy for me to make 😉....Meanwhile I'll do doing my Sony gaming on my PS4Pro until they sort out the PS5 form factor 🤣.

I had both the ps4 and XB1 S. When the new Gen consoles launched, I sold both and bought myself a Series S. Very happy with it, worth the money. No gaming console is worth R12000 (both PS5 & XBSX price at R11999. Then u rather op for a gaming pc instead and add a few bucks to build one, period!!!!

What I find interesting is that, despite the horsepower difference, I genuinely think the real strength Xbox has (aside from gamepass, which does factor into this) is the AA and indie market being thriving without the limitations of the Switch in terms of power. Gamepass gives you a curated selection of those titles which, as the economy implodes on itself in the US, may become a more appealing option to some people over buying individual games at a premium.

AAA gaming is their weakness, but if you don’t care about that (because as much as it is harped on about, not everyone cares about these kinds of games, I find they run together and lack variety a lot these days) then Xbox has its appeal.

I have a Series X over an S, but in a lot of ways I think the S is the real winner in terms of what I think is the biggest strength they have. A reasonable way to have a solidly powerful console that’ll give easy access to a wide variety of games at an affordable cost.

It wasn't that way about a year ago, though, especially for solid 60fps

I own a PS5 and an Xbox Series X. Buy almost all new games for the Xbox due to better frame rates and system support.

Covid has put a dent in game production but they’re on the way, patience!

I like both but Microsoft rewards and gamepass is a value proposition too good to pass up

The Series X and PS5 are so similar that analysts like DF often have to pause a game at a strategic moment, zoom in by 400%, then circle an area which shows a negligible difference.

Yeah because it's a better and more capable machine and I'll admit I'm an Xbox fanboy this gen. I'm just hoping Microsoft don't go and do something stupid like try and create their own VR.

@UltimateOtaku91 "I was just pointing out that the majority of people don't care about graphics and power and the switch sales show that."

You have to consider that many Nintendo fans bought a second Switch because the first one broke or melted and also those that upgraded to the Mariko model, the ones that have a Lite and/or the OLED model and even those that bought a second console to get more joy-cons or docks. Also, the Switch is being sold since 2017 and Series X/S and PS5 since 2020 with frequent stock issues. Last but not least, Xbox is not just consoles!

Anyway, the article is not saying that Series X is the best-selling console so it's a bit weird that your main argument is that the Switch is. It's like saying that Opel e-Corsa is the best-selling EV in a Audi E-tron review comments section.

@IronMan30 Yep, it's like they're asking why is Xbox being praised on Pure Xbox? LOL

@Dezzy70 Not just exclusives but third parties games that are specifically designed with the new generation in mind will be utterly impressive, imagine the next Resident Evil, Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed.

@Banjo-
Of course third parties created for just the new generation will improve things.

Not a surprise. I have gone from wanting all the consoles in a generation to simply only having interest in the Series X. PS5 doesn't even interest me anymore, and I got no desire to get one. GT7 was going to be the system seller for me, but that turned out to be a complete disaster.

@jrt87 It still holds true when a game dips below 48fps. Glad to see both of the current gen systems using this feature, but the range is still helping the S/X.

Guess this is better than that sad Push Square article that suggested Sony's State of Play was the best show of "E3"

I don’t know why this article got so many toxic comments.

I own PlayStation, Xbox and Switch (multiples of each for my kids). I love my consoles all for different reasons and have never understood the console war nonsense.

However, it is perfectly fine for PureXbox to sing the praises of the Xbox Series X. And it is good to point these things out.

I’ve read so many comments of PlayStation fanboys saying the Series X is weaker and performs worse etc. It isn’t true. So slap them with facts, I say. The PS5 has a faster SSD and better exclusives. The Xbox has better backwards comparability options and so forth.

Overall though, this generation will be far more competitive than last season and that is good for all gamers. So instead of bemoaning whoever for liking whatever. Or just being happy their console is stronger. Let’s just be happy that we all have great gaming adventures ahead of us.

If graphics really mattered as much as some people like to think then the majority of people would be extremely disappointed with what was shown of starfield 🤷‍♂️

@Dezzy70 tbf ps5 does have vr & the dualsense in its favour if you care about those features I personally just want a ps5 for the dualsense (aswell as the exclusives obviously)

I have a PS5 and Xbox X. I bought the X to play Starfield (cheaper than buying a gaming PC) I have to say the controller design that uses batteries is just insane. And I miss the feedback of the PS5 controller in games. The Xbox interface is an ugly mess. So many menus I have to dig through. And the whole pinning and unpinning to groups is weird. It took me ages to workout how to uninstall a game. Honestly if it wasn’t for Starfield I wouldn’t have bought one. I stopped playing Halo 5 and Gears 5 about half way in as I got bored. Halo infinite was fun at the start but became a grind. I’m trying to force myself to finish the story now that I’ve maxed out my shields and grapple hook. The most fun I’m having so far is playing The Gunk. Not sure on the praise of the Xbox design, it’s just a black rectangle, what design? It’s a black Apple Cube And regards to performance, the few Xbox owners at work wished they got a PS5 because Elden Ring runs better on the PS5. If Xbox isn’t performing on the games that count, then it doesn’t count.

Hopefully Stalker 2 comes out this year, hold me over to Starfield. Honestly pretty disappointing, it’s a Xbox One with more power. The controller is disappointingly the same and the interface is still out of date and there’s yet any must own games. Once the Switch 2 comes out and the PS5 VR it’s going to be an uphill battle.

@HeroYoshiko Black Apple Cube? Since when did Apple make consoles? Your joke falls flat. I also own a Apple 4k tv box and the Series X looks nothing like it apart from the colour. Elden Ring eh? Well that's one game so not sure where you're getting "the games that count" when you can only name one game.

"It's an Xbox One with more power". Mate you're literally trolling at this point. How is the PS5 any different in that aspect? It's a PS4 with more power.

Switch is not a direct competitor to Xbox or Playstation. And PS5 VR (or to give it It's correct name, PSVR2) will change nothing, the original PSVR was never widely adapted and now you think a VR headset that costs almost as much as a PS5 is going to change that? The Meta Quest 2 might have something to say about that.

@void5400 well to be fair, Series X has more built in storage than the PS5 does.

The reason I pick series x rather than ps5 for my main console this gen is because gamepass is awesome and series x is the only this gen console that support dolby atmos 😃

I do hope microsoft release a disc less series x since I didn't use the disc at all. And maybe non-proprietary ssd nvme upgrade like ps5.

@UltimateOtaku91 The Switch is a fantastic concept. But the chip they used for it was already old when they chose it. Slightly boosting its clock speeds and locking out holes in its code did t refresh it. The Shield TV that uses the same chip is showing it's age too these days. They really do need a new console.

Lots of people here from Push Square today..

@HeroYoshiko

"Not sure on the praise of the Xbox design, it’s just a black rectangle, what design? It’s a black Apple Cube And regards to performance, the few Xbox owners at work wished they got a PS5 because Elden Ring runs better on the PS5. If Xbox isn’t performing on the games that count, then it doesn’t count."

What an absolute amount of gobshi*e! The PS5 is the biggest and arguably the ugliest console ever designed. Don't let this blow your mind but its not XSX's fault that FromSoftware can't optimize their engine for s**t - hell, they cannot sort out their frame pacing issues if their sweet life depended on it 😄.

And yet compared to Push and Life this site is still the fifth wheel.

@HeroYoshiko The Xbox dashboard puts everything up front. It can look intimidating if you’re coming in new to it, but you really don’t need the best education to quickly get used to it and see those tiles as shortcuts.
I’m not sure why it took you long to figure out how to uninstall games - it’s pretty much the same process as the other platforms.
The ability to pin the apps you use the most is again another shortcut designed to make your life easier not harder.
Just give it some time and you’ll reap the rewards.

The batteries still used is actually a good thing. You don’t need to open your controller up, or buy a new one, if the battery goes.
You don’t need to run for the charging cable after a few hours of play.
With rechargeable batteries I get days worth of gaming out of my Xbox controller. They often come in packs of at least 4. So just swap them.

Love the operating system and original xbox background. Love the controller. Xbox does everything right except when I want to install off the disc it makes you connect to the internet one time before you can play offline in most cases. So in the future at some point when the servers shut down we will have some cool paper weights! Please Microsoft fix this.

The fanboying is strong with this thread. Each console has their strengths and weaknesses. It's great that we have so many options. Competition is healthy right now and that can only benefit the consumer.

@JayJ Same here. I'm getting an xbox series x in October for when plague tale 2 comes out and my wife will get a ps5 that I'll use for exclusives.

@DTfeartheBEARD I agree with you.

I love my PS5, and I admit that most of the exclusives are killer titles.

Agreed, Microsfot did a greeat job with the BC games. The fact that I can download games I bought since the X360 days is superb.

@HarmanSmith Exactly! To me, Sony will always deliver with the exclusives. So I have a PS5 to play those and my collection of 100+ PS4 titles and counting. I love the Dualsense, it's my favorite controller of all time. The PS5 is whisper quiet compared to my PS4 Pro, which is also a plus.

I also have a big collection of OG Xbox, Xbox 360, and Xbox One games. Which I can play most of them on my Series X. I buy most of my multiplat games for Series X, because Xbox live, VRR, ect. Over the PS5 version. Of course Game Pass is amazing too!

I have multiple Switch consoles too, including the Switch OLED. For exclusives of Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, ect. Portability, couch co-op, and local wireless play are some of the reasons why I love the Switch and have multiple systems.
Switch is definitely my most played console of the 3. But I have them all for different reasons. I love gaming in general, so I don't want to miss out on anything if I can help it. I buy what I want to play. So no console wars over here! Each console has it's own advantages and disadvantages! So pick what you like. And happy gaming everyone! 😀

@Bleachedsmiles Hi! Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your nice reply. But have to disagree sorry. Batteries are expensive and bad for the environment, they only did it to support Duracell. The chances of needing to replace an inbuilt battery is pretty much zero. I have decade old devices with built in batteries that are still OK, even original PS4 controllers. I really don’t feel like the decision had the consumer in mind. I feel like defending the decision, on a $750AUD console isn’t right. The interface is a mess, that looks like it was from Windows 8.0. I have to count how many games are in my pinned games, go into a deep menu screen, and subtract the number from the list, know I’m missing eg 2 games, then try to figure out which game is missing, go back to the games group if I can’t find it, try to memorise the games list then go back… what is going on. Uninstalling a game, Xbox button, cancel the profile screen, tab to the left 5 times, clicked All Games and App, then you can to the uninstall screen. Same goes for the Xbox mobile app. PS I can buy and download games, check new releases and add them to the wish list to be notified when they’re on sale. Xbox app, I can’t even find the store front?

@UltimateOtaku91 you mean the toy that parents buy for their 5 year-olds?

@HeroYoshiko well right now, between you and I, the chances of having to replace a battery in a PlayStation controller is 50/50…as I’ve already replaced one on one of my ps4 controllers (which sadly didn’t survive the operation).

More choice is usually better for the customer. I mean you like the fact that the ssd in the ps5 isn’t proprietary right?
Buying rechargeable batteries isn’t any more harmful to the environment I wouldn’t imagine. The whole point of them is to recharge them. And trust you recharge them a lot less than you will ever have to the ps4 or ps5 controllers. And you can use the same batteries in as many different controllers as you like - if it makes you feel better?
Also, there’s no rule I know of that they have to be Duracell - I know my aren’t.

You can get rechargeable batteries for like a fiver. It’s not completely outrageous an additional cost…I mean, this isn’t Nintendo selling the plug for the 3DS separately or anything.
It’s not ideal, it’s still an extra cost… unless you happen to end up one of those unlucky ones that has to take their expensive controller apart to replace the battery. Or buy a new controller outright.

As for the UI stuff… you’re doing things in a very odd and backwards way.

To see all the games you have installed simply to to the ‘my games and apps’ tab which is the very first tab (box) by default.

To delete a game simply press the start button (the one with the lines on it on your controller) on any game and uninstall.

The tab to the store is on the desktop by default…literally everything named clearly. Just like on PlayStation…but instead of scrolling side to side you scroll up and down.

@HeroYoshiko I think you are being a little harsh with your comments, even if I have a little sympathy with your points. On an xbox site, such comments are clearly not designed to win freinds or stimulate useful debate.
I agree with you on the batteries, though many will claim choice is good, if one of those options is dispossable I'd rather it wasn't an option. But its simply a few clicks on amazon to get a rechargable pack (I use the venom one) and my series x controllers just plug into a usb and charge the same as my sony ones. The non inclusion of a gyro is is its biggest issue for me, but thats another story.
As for the OS and dashboard, in terms of usability both systems could do with some consistency and both could use a little work.
Sonys desktop looks more next gen to me, but its a moot point when it only launching an app, and backwards compatability and quick start features are miles better on the xbox. Im sure you will get used to the foibles of the OS soon!
Its definitely a generation when owning both platforms has benefits, but only if you have the funds!

@Titntin “though many will claim choice is good, if one of those options is disposable I’d rather it wasn’t an option” quickly followed by “non inclusion of gyro is the biggest issue for me”… 😶‍🌫️

“Sonys desktop looks more next gen”…the desktop on a surface level looks pretty much the same as the ps4. I dunno how it looks more next gen. It’s certainly less sluggish though.

We can pick at both dashboards… that pretty easy. Like you say, both could use some work.
Only problem I personally have with the Xbox dash is that it will often not take me back to where I just was, or try and open a browser, when claiming my points on the rewards page.
Oh, and that quick resume doesn’t work well on ‘live service’ games like halo.
Ps5 I’m still not fully adjusted to those extra steps it takes to now turn the console off or on standby.
The card system is completely pointless to me
And though I like the fact it’s no longer opening a separate slow app (browser?) to get to the store…it’s still not that Intuitive the way the store is arranged.
I am glad though that they fixed the issue of not even knowing if you were playing the ps5 version of a game. Or it downloading both.
It does still however keep games along your dashboard that you just wanted to quickly stream that one time.
And carries over the same problems as last gen with your games collection. keeping trials and demos of games you don’t own in it that you tried years ago…

The best thing about both is the speed at which they run compared to last gen.

I think the thing he has to (or anyone new to Xbox) get his head around is that the Xbox dash is designed to put all the doors to everything upfront…where as PlayStation hides them away. PlayStation creates a cleaner dashboard because of this.
But if you just view the Xbox dash as folders, like you can manually create on PlayStation, it becomes easier to understand.

One thing no NVME slot. Stupid expansion module. Open it so others can make it so there is some competition and prices can come down.

@jrt87 Agree. I have XBox One Series X, PS5, and Nintendo Switch OLED and will play where I need to

@void5400 Much easier to add the storage to the Xbox but you pay the price for it. I paid $290 for the 2TB Samsung 980 Pro and $399 for the Xbox 2TB one. Took about 10 minutes to install it in the PS5 and less than 10 seconds for the Xbox. Some people aren't comfortable opening the console so I get it. Prices will eventually drop and we'll likely see 4TB options for the same prices as the current 2TB ones

Good news considering Series X got off to a rocky start, apparently due to immature dev tools/APIs. There’s little more frustrating than seeing a game not taking full advantage of the hardware available. Good optimisation is hugely important.