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Between the Xbox deal and the Playstation deal, it seems like Discord will be used as the solution for crossplay voice chat. Don't see Discord coming to Switch though as Nintendo did that NSO mobile app solution to voice chat.

@Bleachedsmiles Given 1st party is the only thing Microsoft can truly control, Phil Spencer is likely referring to the 1st party lineup in that comment. Their original schedule was probably similar structure to last year, something like:

• 1st half of 2022 - Goldeneye
• July - As Dusk Falls
• August - Redfall
• September - Grounded (leaving early access), Deathloop
• October - Pentiment, Forza Motorsport
• November - Starfield

@Rmg0731 Game Pass and PS+ Extra/Premium being essentially trials for their own subscription service which is coming to PS and Xbox later this year.

From the stream mission replay looks exactly how I'd hope it would be, looking forward to getting the rest of the skulls whenever the update goes live.

If that is the reason, it likely won't appear until Nintendo gives Advance Wars a new release date.

@shamirqushairi Insomniac for Sony, Monolith Soft for Nintendo and Playground Games for Microsoft.

@darkswabber This article is about 2023, not 2022.

@BAMozzy For Nintendo, the 1st party lineup for the same time period (E3 2021 to what would've been E3 2022) was:

• Game Builder Garage (June 11th 2021)
• Mario Golf Super Rush (June 25th 2021)
• Skyward Sword HD (July 16th 2021)
• WarioWare Get It Together (September 10th 2021)
• Metroid Dread (October 8th 2021)
• Mario Party Superstars (October 29th 2021)
• Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl (November 19th 2021)
• Big Brain Academy Brain vs. Brain (December 3rd 2021)
• Pokemon Legends Arceus (January 28th 2022)
• Kirby and the Forgotten Land (March 25th 2022)
• Switch Sports (April 29th 2022)
• Mario Strikers Battle League (June 10th 2022)

With 3rd party exclusives such as Shin Megami Tensei V and Triangle Strategy supporting it.

Switch definitely has the much more consistent 1st party lineup of the three by far and this has been the case for most of its lifespan. But if you want to play 3rd party multiplatform games, you're better off with PS5, Series X or PC/Steam Deck as a lot of 3rd party stuff skips the Switch so it balances out.

@uptownsoul That's what happens when there's no evidence. Microsoft has been very much smoke and mirrors since 2017 so trust is probably wearing thin with plenty of people.

I feel the best route for Battlefield at this point is taking a long break from new games and do remasters instead (especially the 2 Bad Company games and Battlefield 3).

@Royalblues We already know about a live service Naughty Dog game, a standalone TLoU 2 Factions game which started off as a multiplayer mode for TLoU 2 but scope expanded such that it became standalone. But yeah, going deep into live service territory was the whole point of the Bungie acquisition.

@Royalblues Jim Ryan's made it clear that live service is the future he plans to take PS. For example 12 live service games for 2022 - 2024 is a lot (only 1 has happened so far (MLB The Show 22), for some reason he doesn't count GT7 as live service when it clearly is).

I'd guess stuff like GoW Ragnarok, Spider-Man 2 and Wolverine are games that were greenlighted before Jim Ryan took over and the big AAA blockbusters PS is loved for will eventually disappear.

The future of Xbox looks increasingly ugly, seems to be the case of everything you loved about Xbox is being killed off.

@Cherip-the-Ripper Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo both have 1 year exclusivity but the absence of both in the showcase makes it seem like Microsoft can't talk about Xbox version until the exclusivity is over (September 14th 2022 and March 25th 2023 respectively) so there'll probably be a bit of a gap between the exclusivity ending and the Xbox release (I'd guess October 2022 for Deathloop for example).

Very weird that the 2nd half of June Game Pass games haven't been announced yet.

Hot Wheels DLC for sure, the expansion itself looks fantastic and I'm also really looking forward to what the community is able to create.

@Cherip-the-Ripper I think it's probably connected to the FFVII 25th anniversary stream. If June goes by without FFVII Remake then Xbox is probably never getting it.

I ranked it C, saw the warning saying everything was revealed in Sunday's showcase and then they surprise give an update on a few games not in Sunday's showcase. I do feel that the main thing that prevented it from being better is the fact that Sunday's showcase was very disappointing.

It's rather odd seeing all these Halo crossovers but not much happening with Halo Infinite. Like at the Xbox Showcase, the Halo content wasn't some announcement for Infinite but rather the Pelican for Flight Sim.

I feel Microsoft still haven't gotten the balance quite right but they're getting there. If you took out Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4 the pacing would've been better.

I think Nintendo's going to announce it in a Direct, June's NSO Expansion Pack game ends up being the already announced Pokemon Snap (the last NSO Expansion Pack game that was revealed in September 2021) and then the next batch of games includes Goldeneye, Banjo-Tooie, Perfect Dark, etc.

My favourite announcement, FH3's Hot Wheels DLC was the best part of Forza and this has potential to be even better judging by the trailer and the blogpost.

I ranked it "D". The next 12 months is looking rather grim and the only exciting announcements in that showcase were:

• Silksong
• FH5 Hot Wheels DLC
• Persona no longer PS exclusive

The upside though is the absence of Goldeneye means there may actually be a Nintendo Direct in the next few days.

@NEStalgia We actually currently know more for upcoming Playstation Studios games than Xbox Game Studios when it comes to games with release windows. Only looking at official announcements (no rumours):

Xbox

• As Dusk Falls - 2022
• Grounded 1.0 - 2022
• Redfall - 1st half of 2023
• Starfield - 1st half of 2023

PS

• Spider-Man Remastered (PC) - August 12th 2022
• TLoU Part 1 - September 2nd 2022
• Spider-Man Miles Morales (PC) - Fall 2022
• Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection (PC) - 2022
• God of War Ragnarok - 2022
• TLoU Factions 2 - 2023
• Spider-Man 2 - 2023

You may wonder why I didn't include Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo, well 1 year timed PS exclusivity doesn't guarantee that Xbox release will be straight after the exclusivity ends. Also I included PC ports because Microsoft included AoE 4 in all those 2021 XGS lists even though it's not on console.

Anyway you'd hope things would be clearer on the future of Xbox after today's showcase.

Rare Replay for PC perhaps with the 360 games included in the collection rather than the Xbox approach of loading up the 360 games? Rare Replay and Halo 5 are the only non-Kinect XB1 games that aren't on PC and are still purchasable on XB1.

If true, this makes the July 2020 Xbox Showcase even more questionable. Microsoft really should've used the Nintendo 2020 approach back then and had:

• Close 1st party content be shadow drop announcements (Tell Me Why, Outer Worlds DLC, Grounded)
• Psychonauts 2 trailer be saved for 2021
• The 3rd party games be in Microsoft's variant of "Partner Showcase"
• The 1st party games with no release window saved for initial reveal in the 2022 Xbox Showcase (Forza Motorsport, Everwild, State of Decay 3, Avowed, Fable)
• Halo Infinite delayed to holiday 2022 and gameplay reveal appear at the 2022 Xbox Showcase

It would be a shame if it isn't real, the 360 games have big issues with the multiplayer. Matches that aren't only bots are filled with hackers.

@themightyant As Dusk Falls is still under the Xbox Game Studios branding though so it's probably counted.

As Dusk Falls, Forza Motorsport, Redfall, Starfield, Gears collection

@Daniel1221 Hot Wheels was a separate map from the main Australia area in FH3 so maybe you get taken to the same island?

@Daniel1221 @pip_muzz You could also interpret it that the crazier expansion launches in Spring/Summer and the normal expansion launches in Winter.

FH2 Fast and Furious - March 2015
FH3 Hot Wheels - May 2017
FH4 Lego - June 2019

FH1 Rally - December 2012
FH2 Storm Island - December 2014
FH3 Blizzard Mountain - December 2016
FH4 Fortune Island - December 2018

I do wonder though with FH4 probably being delisted in September 2018 due to 4 year licensing if expansion 2 ends up being Lego in Summer 2023 instead of a normal expansion.

The Hot Wheels DLC in FH3 is my favourite part of the Forza franchise so this would be fantastic.

@Bleachedsmiles Back in April it was announced that online co-op (network) was targeted for late August and local co-op (split screen) was targeted for some point during Season 3 (which starts November 8th).

@Snake_V5 Because Summer Game Fest is on the 9th, there'll be plenty of people who intend to watch Summer Game Fest but not the Xbox Showcase.

@Krzzystuff There were a few areas that went on too long like the FH5 segment and the part between FH5 and Redfall but for the most part it had good pacing. Would say the Nintendo Direct was a better showpiece for how a showcase should be though.

I'd guess August release coinciding with the 25th anniversary, it would also fit in with the NSO schedule as June's game is almost certainly Pokemon Snap but nothing afterwards is known.

I think it'll be fine but those expecting answers to the long list of 1st party games announced in 2019-2021 with no release windows will be disappointed.

@NEStalgia I think Sony's strategy for non-mobile will be:

• Everything on PS and PC
• A variety of live service games also on Xbox and Nintendo

@somnambulance Feels like Halo Infinite, Everwild, Hellblade 2, Forza Motorsport, State of Decay 3, Avowed, Fable, Perfect Dark, Outer Worlds 2 and Redfall were announced way too early (Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 also were but those were announced before the acquisition).

Given how all signs seem to be pointing towards Square Enix being acquired by Sony, I'd guess if the Epic exclusivity is longer than 6 months (i.e. if it doesn't release on Xbox in June) that it never comes to Xbox.

Only covering June 1st-7th suggests that there'll be shadow drop Game Pass reveals at Summer Game Fest on June 9th (not just the Xbox Showcase on June 12th).

I'd much rather prefer the extra power and I'd imagine at some point in the next few years there'll be some extremely power hungry games (judging by World, a Monster Hunter for PC/PS5/Series X|S comes to mind for example).

I'd say the original Xbox. It was big back in the day but the gigantic success of the Xbox 360 means the original Xbox is kind of forgotten about nowadays. XB1 is definitely the most disliked but even though I've had fun with it (mostly around 2015-2017), I don't think its done enough to deserve being called underrated.

@FraserG We'll see a clearer picture when events like Summer Game Fest happen but from what we can see right now, plenty of 3rd parties appear to be dropping XB1/PS4 versions for 2023 games so it seems like 2022 might be the last big year for last gen.

With Redfall and Starfield delayed to 2023, I could honestly see it turn out to be that Microsoft's original 2 years crossgen comment for XGS ends up true with the exception of Flight Sim which was originally announced for XB1 but got cancelled.

I could see it go either way. On the one hand, the mess surrounding current gen since launch suggests it's too early for revisions outside of stuff like a digital only Series X or slim models. On the other hand you could consider Series X|S to be XB1 X2|S2 and PS5 to be "PS4 Pro" Pro hence more powerful models in 2023/2024 would be the equivalent of XB1 X3|S3 and "PS4 Pro Pro" Pro respectively.

Would be fantastic if despite saying the November 2021 batch was the last batch of backwards compatibility games if it turned out that Microsoft announces a big batch of backwards compatibility and FPS Boost games in the Xbox Showcase including the remaining Sonic games for backwards compatibility and Rise of the Tomb Raider for FPS Boost.

@Trmn8r Sony deals which block Game Pass can be as simple as beta and a mode arrives early + no Game Pass for a year.

@Trmn8r Microsoft did acquire Activision though so you'd think MW2 and Infinite Season 3 would be timed in such a way that both could coexist. Then again, since my comment I saw an article on Push Square saying PS has the usual timed exclusivity hence MW2 will be blocked from Game Pass and so Microsoft may want something Game Pass related in November.

Very disappointing, it really feels like Microsoft are trying to bury Halo Infinite. Season 3 releases very close to this and was seemingly looking to be the big relaunch but now a lot of people will likely just stick with MW2 instead.

@XxEvilAshxX The point I'm getting at is for example look at the day 1 XGS games on Game Pass this year so far and the day 1 PS Studios games on PS+ Extra/Premium this year so far. The answer to both is 0 but given the different stances on day 1 1st party releases in a subscription, it paints a different picture for each.

For PS it shows Sony believing that 1st party games are too valuable to be put on PS+ Extra/Premium day 1 but for Xbox it shows Microsoft's inability to have a consistent 1st party lineup.