One upcoming first-party Xbox title that's got many people excited is the new Fable game by the Forza Horizon developer Playground Games.
There have been some minor development updates over the past few months, but what's the latest? In a special storytime session at this year's PAX, Head of Xbox Game Studios Matt Booty was asked what's the latest on the new Fable title.
As much as he would love to share more with fans, apparently, Playground doesn't want to reveal anything just yet. Here's exactly what he had to say:
"Part of my job is giving air cover to the team, they don't want to show stuff early before it's ready to go, but if there is one game where that is kind of flipped around where every time I see something, and I say "we should show this" it's Fable, because there's a lot of cool stuff...The team has made it very clear that I'm not going to be able to show anything until it's ready.
"Playground, just what I'll say is that the craft and dedication that they brought to Forza Horizon, every bit of that is going to be applied to Fable and they get it...let's be honest, giving Fable to the racing team could be a little bit of a headscratcher, but they have proven that they get it, and I'm excited for when the time comes to be able to show more."
This latest update follows rumours in recent months, raising concerns about the scope of the project. These concerns were also stamped out by the development team - stating how this process was a normal and necessary part of game development. Based on Matt Booty's latest comment as well, it sounds like the new Fable is coming along nicely.
Are you excited about the next Fable game? What are you expecting from it? Leave a comment below.
[source twitter.com]
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Can't wait till Fable comes out because I have enjoyed the other Fables. Don't take too long.
No one likes a tease
Remember when this was teased like 5 years ago. Still not ready to show anything huh
@Rmg0731 Playground are known for not revealing until just months before release - they're one of the more professional Xbox studios.
That initial teaser in 2020 was no doubt because they were hiring to make a whole second team - so LinkedIn posts were already hinting at it and in the last few years recruitment in the industry has been difficult so a trailer helps build hype among potential recruits too
@Kaloudz No lol, it was officially announced on the E3 showcase in 2020
Here we go again, when is this game releasing 2030.
Don’t trust anything that comes out of any Xbox executive mouth game wise at Xbox currently.
I think they have all been on the same training course as politicians 😂
Or maybe the WWE camera and sound tricks making stadiums look full and loud, when they are actually not and have part empty seats etc. 😂
2022 not one single new exclusive top end AAA game from an Xbox studio, first time in history since I had my original Xbox I believe.
The positive is it is Playground Games the only Xbox studio in the two year series x life span that has released a true top end AAA game
And what a game it is FH5.
So I have fingers crossed for this one.
That reminds me to finally play all the Fable games. Playground is a quality studio so I trust them to deliver something special.
Well if they do as good a job in the Fable world as Guerrilla games did going from killzone to HZD then it will a great success, especially for their first time going from racing to adventure game.
If any Xbox studio could pull it off it would playground games or the coalition.
It's still a long way away lol
Totally off subject but to do with gaming and consoles.
Been looking for a new tv for a month now.
The contenders now.
LG C2, Sony A80K and Samsung QN90B.
To my shock when reading reviews at stores and of course only going by review amounts how Sony have fallen TV wise if you can go by purchased people reviews to units sold in the UK over a couple of big stores.
LG C2 had about 1250 reviews
Samsung QN90B about 850 reviews
Sony A80K about 20 reviews.
Wow it was always Sony when I was young back in the day, but they not selling that many TVs now a days I guess, roughly going on shop user review amounts.
They best keep being the top dog in gaming market, if true now I know why they been making a big deal over CODs future etc.
Additionally applying the same logic user reviews as I have done with TVs, I found the following with consoles in the UK across our three biggest stores for gaming consoles that have user reviews.
All averaged out and multiplied and divided etc to make is simple:
PS5 disc and digital 3800 user reviews
Xbox series consoles 3000 user reviews
@Dezzy70 Sony haven't been 'top' dog in terms of TV's for years - Samsung have had market dominance for years with LG and TCL ahead of Sony. Sony still has that 'Premium' brand name so charge more for lower specs as if you are getting 'premium' build quality instead - although they are still using screens made by others - like LG or Samsung.
Choice is yours at the end of the day - pros and cons to all in my opinion so its a case of which has most pro's for you and cons you can live with.
As I have said countless times, Ghost of Tsushima (2020) - an 'open world' light RPG narrative driven game built from scratch - took 6yrs to make/release after they released Infamous 2nd Son in 2014. So how do you expect Playground to make a game that in the past was far more complex - the whole morality system for example is more 'Complex' than the more straight forward and linear leveling system utilised in GoT/Horizon etc. When MS acquired them in 2018, they were still in the 'early' stages of trying to 'build' up a second studio to make 'other' games - their 'first' being Fable. So not only have they had to build a brand new game from the ground up, start from scratch (unlikely to have access to Lionheads old game codes to 'build' on so have to create everything from scratch in the Forza Tech engine) etc, they have also had to recruit and build up their 2nd studio - part of the reason they announced they would be making a new Fable game to try and attract the right devs with the right skillset to benefit the team, the project etc. Its not as if Playground stopped making Forza Horizon to focus on Fable and have released two games since officially 'joining' MS - FH4 and FH5.
Undead Labs took 5yrs to make State of Decay 2 - a AA sequel to a smaller budget first game - and are now looking to make State of Decay 3 as a much bigger budget and in a 'new' engine. If it took then 5 yrs to make a AA sequel on an engine and building on top of the 'first' to make it easier/quicker, then how can you expect the same team to make a 'more ambitious' AAA sequel in less time??
Most Sony studio's are now taking around 5yrs to make their 'next' game but because they have had more studio's for much longer, you tend to get at least 1 big Exclusive most years. But MS, until 4yrs ago, had few devs - 343, Coalition, Mojang, Rare and Turn 10. Therefore, you need to give those studio's time to build games - which is why MS has a LOT of games coming, but why they haven't quite been ready yet because most games weren't actually 'started' when they were 'acquired' in 2014 due to working on their 'current' projects - games like Outer Worlds, Psychonauts 2, Wildlands 3, State of Decay 2, We Happy Few etc. The Initiative was a 'brand' new studio with a few staff when they were announced in 2018 and first thing they had to do was go on a recruitment charge before they could even consider what games to make...
I love RPGs and Sony doesn't make them, so the choice is clear.
I definitely trust Playground, as they’ve shown to be an excellent dev team, if not one of the very best. But I also know Xbox’ overall track record with getting games to market, so I’ll just wait until 2026 when we finally might see some gameplay.
@BAMozzy
Definitely not going for the Sony tv for sure.
Narrowed it down to the LG C2 or Samsung QN90B.
Sony charge more for nothing when it comes to TVs, lower specifications and overall not as good.
When it comes to games I do appreciate the time it takes, have been gaming for decades.
I think it is just down to the preparation of games since the last generation was ending and what would be available in the first two years of this new generation.
Microsoft apart from FH5 top end AAA, we won’t mention Halo Infinite seem so unorganised compared to say Sony who get their game studios management and preparation of development in line far before Microsoft for the new generation.
And rightly or wrongly used and paid a third party studios like Sumo Digital UK to make an exclusive.
I think that really is the answer to no AAA form Xbox in 2022.
So according to Xbox showcase June 2022 the 12 month plan and what they said from right up to end of Jun 2023 we should have the following big games from Xbox studios
FM
Redfall
Starfield
Let’s see what happens and also the AAA quality of these titles in all areas. If they do great then some of my faith in Xbox will be restored and my Series x will be happy and get played more.
I really liked how there was only a small gap between announcement and release for Forza Horizon games (it was always announce at E3, release in Fall/Holiday the same year). While Fable has been announced for over 2 years at this point, it would be cool if the re-reveal to launch cycle was close to the FH cycle.
@BAMozzy
Please remember where my game brain sits.
Had all the console played the big AAA when they were released and enjoyed them massively on all consoles. I move forward I get the next big AAA and so on. New experiences constantly.
Do I want FM, Starfield and Redfall to be the best they can be top end AAA, dam right I do I’m a gamer I want them to be at the top of their game in all areas. And if they are I can’t wait to play them all and really enjoy.
FM will definitely be for sure.
Redfall keeps looking better each to we see something.
Starfield, that’s me not sure game being honest after what we sure.
@Grumblevolcano
Totally agree, FH5 time to announce and release was spot on and the game pure AAA.
There is probably only playground games and a couple more of Xbox studios, Turn 10 and the Coalition that seem to produce top end AAA and do the management and development spot on.
The other studios need to prove themselves now they under Xbox studios, but they could learn so much from what I call the top three Xbox studios.
@Dezzy70 The Initiative and especially 343 Industries definitely could learn from them
@Solidchief
You are not wrong there.
@Dezzy70 If playground games pull this off and get a hit Id give them more accolades than Gorilla tbh - at least with killzone they could carry that experience over with AI, scripting, animation, and even platforming.
Playground games are coming to fable having worked on just racing games where they get the cars from turn 10. Where the weakest part of the FH games by far are always the character models and animation.
I’m going to be very surprised if fable ends up looking like the teaser trailer…and not like an extremely pretty open world with terrible Kinect shovelware looking characters in it.
I hope the games good, but yeah I’m with you that I don’t trust what comes out of this guys mouth. He hasn’t earned the good faith
@Dezzy70 You are also forgetting Grounded and Minecraft Legends - one may well of been in 'development' and using the community to help shape the final release (Grounded) and the other is not 'Exclusive', but that's still 2 more games made by Xbox owned Studio's.
The first 2 yrs haven't been 'great' for Sony either - if you take away all the 'remakes/remasters'. All but R&C were built for the PS4 generation. Returnal wasn't made by a 'first party' studio at the time either. Other than Miles Morales (DLC to Spider-Man that 'grew' into a Stand-alone), H:FW and GT7, I can't think of another 'first party' new game from Sony owned Studios.
In the same time, MS has released Gears Hivebusters (equivalent in scale to MM), Gears Tactics, Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5, MSFS, Psychonauts 2, Deathloop, Ghostwire Tokyo etc as well as given 'free' upgrades to a native Series version in numerous games instead of charging £10 to get a native PS5 version on Sony which also seems to have increased their PS5 releases. If you can count GoT, Spider-Man etc as PS5 releases, then you can also count FH4, Gears 5 etc as they were upgraded too and have their own 'Series' version.
Just because Studios are or have not been working on 'Exclusives', that doesn't mean those games have not been developed by MS owned studios and financed (at least in the 'critical' phase of development when a 'project' becomes a 'game' ready for gamers to play) by MS. They are still first party Xbox games that for 'reasons' are not Exclusive to MS - but they are Xbox owned IP's too
I don't know how you can expect Double Fine for example to be releasing Xbox Exclusives having only just finished Psychonauts 2 - an Xbox owned Franchise made by Xbox owned Devs. Just because it, and Minecraft games, are released on Playstation, that doesn't stop them being MS games.
Instead of having a dig at MS in EVERY post, why not look at the 'industry' as a whole is doing, how long games are realistically taking - and the quality of the 'released' game. Take Saints Row - released 5yrs after Agents of Mayhem - another '5yr' development and look at the state of that game. Cyberpunk 2077, another 'long' development cycle pushed out 'too early' and first revealed 8yrs or so before the game released. Even over a 'year' later, its still not quite to the standards expected.
Games like CoD rely on many studios - and still have 3 main studios to give each 3yrs (with support from other studios so not making 'other' games) to release CoD annually. 8 studios to make 1 game annually... Sports games are last years games updated to 'new' stats and minor tweaks. Most games are taking over 4yrs to build and often those are 'sequels' built from a pre-existing framework of a 'predecessor'. A lot of the work, the animations, the scripting etc etc is already done for the previous game - at most, some tweaks but you have a lot of work done, a lot of concept art and assets that can be 'tweaked' and reused saving time - yet still taking 4yrs+
I tried playing Fable 1 last year but I just couldn't do it, the controls, graphics and voices just put me off.
But I am looking forward to this new one, as it will be more modern in terms of visuals, controls and gameplay. Just hope the story doesn't follow on from the other games.
@UltimateOtaku91 Glad you’re still with us!
As soon as my wife saw the teaser for this she declared "we're getting an Xbox!" I've been very happy with that decision, but she is anxiously awaiting this one and I'm looking forward to it as well. I enjoyed Fable 2, Fable 3 was fine enough, but I didn't care much for Fable (Anniversary).
@Bleachedsmiles wow 🤣🤣 damn auto correct
I meant tried
One of the reasons why I keep going with Xbox is knowing that this game will release someday. Playground is one of the few Xbox Studios that come across as professional and put together too, so I’ve got faith this may be the game to watch for the Series console’s lifespan.
Hell yeah, I can't wait for them to finally reveal Fable to us..
I'm waiting for another Halo Infinite situation where the game was candle internally multiple times. And what released is a buggy, 2 year, mess.
@BAMozzy word man
I only got to play the demo of 3 for the 360 and liked it. Looking forward to the release of this one when it does
@BAMozzy
Please it’s definitely not Sony vs Microsoft
I just used Sony as a reference really.
Hivebusters, dam brilliant little game, should have promoted more and advertised like Sony did miles morales. Xbox needs better PR in the UK and probably Europe as well.
@Bleachedsmiles
They have to earn what they say and show the top quality AAA exclusives and release them.
Simple as that.
Though Playground Games isn’t ready to show Fable off, it must be a great complement that Matt Booty can’t wait for everybody to see it. He obviously thinks it’s far enough along to show. Just tells you how talented and dedicated the team is on making this right.
@Dezzy70 I was aware of all of that and I live in the UK - I don't know how much more PR they could of done over the upgrades to Gears 5 using software GI RT on Series hardware and that you'd get a free 'upgrade' to the Series version - thanks to Smart Delivery - none of those £10 charges for upgrades.
The list of games are known and often mentioned here but if you don't read or have a very selective memory to suit what ever argument you want and seem to constantly whine about in almost EVERY Comments section, then having 'more' PR etc is not going to make any difference.
If you really 'cared' you'd do the research, look at what's happening 'industry' wide, how long games are actually taking and of course when those devs last released a game and is their new game a sequel because they are quicker/easier generally because they have work and assets from the predecessor to save time, money etc. These all affect how long games are taking so you'll just have to be 'patient' but in the meantime, there are 6 first Party games releasing within the next 12 months - Pentiment, Grounded, Minecraft Legends, Forza Motorsport, Starfield and Redfall - a varied mix of games from passion projects offering a unique experience to an RPG that seems extremely ambitious in terms of scale/scope, from Racing to Vampire Slaying - games to play with or against friends, games for younger and older ages... Maybe you are not interested in some/most, but that is still 'output' that has been 'funded' and developed by Microsoft and games you can play Day 1 on Game Pass for $10 a month! Not including all the 'other' games Game Pass will let you play every month.
The fact MS will delay probably their most anticipated and ultimately 'only' new AAA budget games out of this year when they really needed something, at least 1 to release to focus on ensuring they are up to the quality expected fills me with more confidence 2021's 'best' publisher has learned their lesson and understand that First Impressions count!! Especially with 'hundreds' of games to play if it doesn't create a good impression with Game Pass - so Patience and enjoy the Games you can today. New games are arriving weekly to play or enjoy older games and soon enough, those great future games do get released and you'll still be whining about when will Xbox release perfect dark/fable/state of decay etc and will they be worth playing, up to 'standards' - just enjoy the games you have and can play this week and worry about next week, next week...
@BAMozzy
Like I said on here early Xbox have until end of June 2023 to release the big three.
Starfield
Forza Motor Sport
Redfall.
If they arrive in time to the new schedule and are top AAA quality then my confidence in Xbox and their studios and their executive mouth pieces will be restored a lot.
I just say simply, let’s wait and see.
I will be more than happy if these games are the best ever and the best they can be and will enjoy playing them for a long time.
Yes you are right I should get of here and go enjoy my continued HFW adventure, like I have been for some of today.
Q) Are you excited about the next Fable game?
A) I'm very excited for the upcoming Fable game but with no new news, the excitement has kind of tempered down. It's hard to keep the hype up for so long with little info to go on but I do feel that waiting to show off more of the game until nearer it's completion/release is for the best. Having more of a blank impression leaves less room to potentially critique or doubt footage that might be too early and rough to present.
Q) What are you expecting from it?
A) Well I know from what little I've seen of Forza Horizon 4 that Playground Games can make a lovely depiction of the UK, so I do feel confident in a beautiful Fable world that retains plenty of the signature British charm. Coming from racing veterans, I do feel such an aspect could end up applying to the new Fable to take advantage of their experience. Perhaps wider roads and segments for carriages and horses; potentially a faster flowing game altogether.
The Fable series is Brilliant and so much fun. It's been too long since F3!!! I can't wait for this
I know people are worried because Playground is known for racing games; but the developers have something to prove: that they can do more than racing games.
Because of that, they are going to take great care in how everything is going to look and feel.
In fact, they might even be more meticulous than studios that have been doing these kinds of games for years because they know it's a "weak spot" in their expertise that needs to be addressed and done right.
I like these kinds of shakeups as it only helps broaden the skillset of the studio. This could only lead to even better games going forward.
I'd love to, you know, see it...
@Widey85 mine too, not too much talks or trailers make the game and polish it well job is done
@Dezzy70 psychornaut 2 is underrated
@Gamingforlife
I think you right there it is a bit underrated.
But if you really want to get the imagination of the general public going platform wise for massive sales and Xbox publicity, you are up against the quality of Nintendo platform games, the history the quality the nostalgia etc etc.
I think that is why Sony stay away from that type of game now.
Xbox has really only one iconic area that it rules
Racing FH and FM. The problem is it is a little niche now and not a series game that really sets the world alight.
In the old days Xbox was iconic for fps Halo and third person gears of way and Forza. But now only just about iconic for Forza.
They need to known for far more than that if they want to progress.
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