CD keys 6 months GPU for £46. Will prob go up a bit soon but it is always a huge saving. Not something I would do for a small devloper but I am sure the trillion dollar company will cope.
MS is just increasing the Series X prices in those certain markets to match the PS5 so I don't see a huge issue there. They can't keeping making the same loss while other manufactures increase prices. MS held out for as long as possible so I won't be mad paying an extra £30 for a Series X.
Gamepass prices are increasing but when you look at the stacked AAA games coming from Sept this year into 2024 and beyond the extra £1/$2 is not a huge deal.
Phil Spencer did warn prices may need to increase I am pretty sure I sure that article on here so I cannot say I am surprised at all. I feel sorry for anyone who is/or easily upset by the harsh reality of economics .
This is just a guess but I think Sony thought that the Series S was MS's next gen console - and their orignal PS5 was the all digital version with a lower TFLOP.
At some point they must have found out that Xbox also planned to release a 12TFLOP disc based machine then scrambled to slap a disc drive on the side and increase the TFLOP (although still 2 TFLOPS short so you wonder if thier orignal PS5 was maybe around 6 TFLOPS.
Both businesses know what they are doing, and If MS don't jump Sony won't and visa versa.
Right now its expensive with games that don't match the quality of non VR games. Maybe the technology along with a reasonable price are just a few years away. It's easy for MS to look at PSVR and think "yeah no thanks" right now.
Good see see a video with people who understand the technology and its limitations in a realistic way.
What I usually see online are trolls who know little to nothing on the subject yet act like they are an expert on game engine design and development.
Tod Howard made a creative choice on how to use resource and you can either get on board with it or you can't, but it is what it is and it's not going to change.
I do sympathise with those that have medical conditions where they require higher frames and/or cannot afford a PC that can run the game at higher frame rates.
I am excited to play this game on my Series S, or Series X if I decide it is worth the upgrade (I don't have a 4K TV at the moment).
I hope outer worlds 2 has some romance options, I am super glad Starfield will have them, always loved that mass effect kind of game and was sad that the OG OW didn't have any options.
It's playground, up there with Rockstar and Naughty Dog in AAA+ game engine fidelity and optimisation - After forza 5 I would have zero surprise if it looked like this or better.
@GoldenPants Already too late in the UK, Cex which is the easiest place to sell old hardware buys the Series S for like £60! I will prob just keep my as a second console and get a Series X in the future rather than the new Series S even though I do like the look of it.
I have a Series S now with an expansion storage card which I have had since launch and the console has held up pretty well for me so far.
I'm predominantly a 30fps gamer because I favour resolution based on my PS4 Pro days to the point that even on my PS5 if there is a higher res/RT 30fps option like Hogwarts legacy or Spiderman option I take it. Even the recent FF16 demo I was like yeah I'm going for 30fps after seeing the 60fps mode.
I think if the game is a smooth 30fps at 1440p consistently then I might hold off upgrading to the Series X until next year.
I will add I don't play online or in any completive way where 60+ fps might benefit me and I understand some may need to play at higher frames due to eye conditions.
"Astonishing story emerging today from Bethesda sources that Todd Howard demanded the development team prioritise sandwiches over frames. “Another! Another!” he demanded as the FPS tumbled from a smooth 60 to a mere 30. “Panini over performance” became a motto among the team."
I am planning on getting this around the end of the month when it's payday - the best ver I have seen since the Xbox One Cyberpunk 2077 controller in summer 2020.
Can't speak for the UK but stock levels where I work in the UK are pretty good.
DGC would be saying nothing about this if his main console was an Xbox and not a PS5.
Dev is correct to say that the choice to prioritise 30fps and better complex gaming systems/visual fidelity doesn't mean an unfinished game.
RDR2 is also the same, which is why it isn't easy for them to just put a 60fps mode on XSX and PS5. There are a lot of complex systems at play. If they could do a 60fps T2 would be all over that cash grab.
It's very unfair to call a devs lazy just because they made a creative choice on how to use the limited console hardware. The hardware was already weaker than a lot of high end PC's when it launched nearly 3 years ago and consoles are a budget friendly way to get into gaming. If I want 60fps + with 4K and complex systems on AAA games I got to have a high end PC which would cost a lot more. I understand some players can't play at 30fps due to eye issues and I feel sorry for them as it means they have to invest a lot more into their hobby.
@FatalBubbles I mean for me it was an £230 saving (Series X mostly now sold at £480 bundle in the UK) I already have a PS5 and switch, the £250 one is more value for sure if you don't mind the lower storage but the £180 saving (£300 version) for the 1TB is still decent if you just want a cheaper way to play games like Starfield and the other upcoming gamepass games and exclusives.
Honestly I expected a little more newness, or even some deeper gameplay looks at those big Xbox first party AAA games ( not BTS). Was weaker than last years version. The short gamepass sizzle real was the highlight.
A starfield Storage device should really be able to store and play starfield
The UK digital store pricing should really be 5-10$ cheaper based on conversion rates like a lot of other punishers do. $100 right now is around £80. In real terms thats around $125 for the same game.
I mean if I was going to say if I would rather have the marketing deal for Star Wars Outlaws (Xbox) or This game.. well I think Sony got a raw deal haha.
@FatalBubbles Mainly PS5/Switch/ Xbox Series X console owners that want an Xbox at a more affordable price. A lot of people will also prefer the storage and the colour. I got a Series S to go along with my PS5 and Switch.
Thinking on getting the controller, thankfully the stock levels in the UK at least are pretty good on this one. I think MS knew it would be a big seller.
I think developers need to learn how to get the best and really push the Series X and PS5 before upgrades happen. Some studios are starting to get there now but honestly It could be another couple of years before we really see what a Series X can do.
You have to wonder if Xbox does not do an Series X upgrade in 2024 that PS may quietly scrap thiers to save money on something which they will have to mass produce at a loss.
2023 Sony gives me that kind of vibe of just doing the bare minimum now because they will make good profits without taking too many risks. They can run off of old IP, Wolverine and some GaaS games.
Like most people here I already own an current gen Xbox - For me I have the launch Series S which has served me well with an expansion card but this is the year I will prob upgrade to a Series X. The version seems like a good sell for PS or Switch owners who want a cheaper Xbox with some decent storage.
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Re: The Original COD: Warzone Is Shutting Down, And Fans Aren't Happy About It
So fussy about COD, we got fish at home
Re: The Elder Scrolls 6 Is At Least 'Five-Plus Years Away', Platforms Still TBD
FTC got battered today to the point even the judge cut off some of thier questions
Re: Jim Ryan Wasn't Overly Concerned About Call Of Duty Xbox Exclusivity
The case showing how clueless the FTC and CMA are - even the judge is cutting FTC questions because they think they are wasting time.
Re: Sarah Bond: Xbox Game Pass Ultimate's Least Popular Feature Is Cloud Gaming
FTC are getting battered in court with thier toilet paper thin arguments.
Re: Poll: Will You Stay Subscribed To Xbox Game Pass After The Price Hike?
CD keys 6 months GPU for £46. Will prob go up a bit soon but it is always a huge saving. Not something I would do for a small devloper but I am sure the trillion dollar company will cope.
Re: Forza Horizon 1 & 2 Are Shutting Their Servers On Xbox This August
Just a reminder - disc or digital, you buy a licence not a game
Re: Xbox Is Expecting The 'Next Generation Of Consoles' To Begin In 2028
The 5 years will fly by. I have been commenting on here for around 3 years now and it felt like yesterday!
Re: Starfield Won't Feature Land Vehicles, But It Does Have The 'Boost Pack'
How many articles can you get out of this interview
Re: Xbox Series S 1TB Version Was Created Due To 'Really Consistent Feedback', Says Microsoft
@xShoot4Warampsx Disc games are all only licences on modern consoles anyways so the same applies sadly.
Re: Todd Howard Explains Why Starfield At 30FPS Will 'Feel Great' On Xbox Series X|S
@Bobobiwan Agree Spiderman at 4k 30fps with RT is the intended way to play that game - the frame pacing and input lag were good.
Re: Todd Howard Explains Why Starfield At 30FPS Will 'Feel Great' On Xbox Series X|S
If you can afford to be that invested and moan about 60fps then you should invest in a PC, which all Xbox games also run on.
When I look at the Series X, the specs are pretty weak compared to a high end PC in 2023. The price reflects that.
Re: Microsoft Announces Price Increases For Xbox Series X And Xbox Game Pass
MS is just increasing the Series X prices in those certain markets to match the PS5 so I don't see a huge issue there. They can't keeping making the same loss while other manufactures increase prices. MS held out for as long as possible so I won't be mad paying an extra £30 for a Series X.
Gamepass prices are increasing but when you look at the stacked AAA games coming from Sept this year into 2024 and beyond the extra £1/$2 is not a huge deal.
Phil Spencer did warn prices may need to increase I am pretty sure I sure that article on here so I cannot say I am surprised at all. I feel sorry for anyone who is/or easily upset by the harsh reality of economics .
Re: The Xbox Series X Is Basically A 'Mid-Gen' Console Already, Suggests Old Microsoft Comment
This is just a guess but I think Sony thought that the Series S was MS's next gen console - and their orignal PS5 was the all digital version with a lower TFLOP.
At some point they must have found out that Xbox also planned to release a 12TFLOP disc based machine then scrambled to slap a disc drive on the side and increase the TFLOP (although still 2 TFLOPS short so you wonder if thier orignal PS5 was maybe around 6 TFLOPS.
Both businesses know what they are doing, and If MS don't jump Sony won't and visa versa.
Re: Xbox Exec: We're Still Hesitant To Develop VR Games Until There's A Bigger Audience
Right now its expensive with games that don't match the quality of non VR games. Maybe the technology along with a reasonable price are just a few years away. It's easy for MS to look at PSVR and think "yeah no thanks" right now.
Re: Poll: What Score Do You Think You'll Be Giving Starfield In September?
I will be giving it much of any available time!
Re: Todd Howard Says Starfield Is 'Great' On Xbox Series S
Series S is is unparalleled value for money that's for certain.
Re: Five Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In July 2023 So Far
Looking like a decent July for GP and then just August to get through before Starfield is September!
Re: Rockstar Co-Founder Forms Dev Studio 'To Create New Universes' Across Multiple Platforms
Hopefully it will be single player games.
Re: Digital Foundry Posts Huge Breakdown On Why Starfield Runs At 30FPS On Xbox
Good see see a video with people who understand the technology and its limitations in a realistic way.
What I usually see online are trolls who know little to nothing on the subject yet act like they are an expert on game engine design and development.
Tod Howard made a creative choice on how to use resource and you can either get on board with it or you can't, but it is what it is and it's not going to change.
I do sympathise with those that have medical conditions where they require higher frames and/or cannot afford a PC that can run the game at higher frame rates.
I am excited to play this game on my Series S, or Series X if I decide it is worth the upgrade (I don't have a 4K TV at the moment).
Re: Here's The Latest Xbox Game Studios & Bethesda Roadmap (June 2023 Version)
I hope outer worlds 2 has some romance options, I am super glad Starfield will have them, always loved that mass effect kind of game and was sad that the OG OW didn't have any options.
Re: Fable Dev Flattered By Fans Asking If Xbox Showcase Trailer Was 'Real'
It's playground, up there with Rockstar and Naughty Dog in AAA+ game engine fidelity and optimisation - After forza 5 I would have zero surprise if it looked like this or better.
Re: inXile Studio Head Shares More Details On First-Person RPG 'Clockwork Revolution'
In due time sounds like 2025 haha
Re: Starfield's Xbox File Size Is 125GB, According To Microsoft Store Page
@GoldenPants Already too late in the UK, Cex which is the easiest place to sell old hardware buys the Series S for like £60! I will prob just keep my as a second console and get a Series X in the future rather than the new Series S even though I do like the look of it.
Re: Todd Howard Says Starfield Is 'Great' On Xbox Series S
I have a Series S now with an expansion storage card which I have had since launch and the console has held up pretty well for me so far.
I'm predominantly a 30fps gamer because I favour resolution based on my PS4 Pro days to the point that even on my PS5 if there is a higher res/RT 30fps option like Hogwarts legacy or Spiderman option I take it. Even the recent FF16 demo I was like yeah I'm going for 30fps after seeing the 60fps mode.
I think if the game is a smooth 30fps at 1440p consistently then I might hold off upgrading to the Series X until next year.
I will add I don't play online or in any completive way where 60+ fps might benefit me and I understand some may need to play at higher frames due to eye conditions.
Re: F1 23 Receives Impressive Reviews As Free Trial Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass
I think the story mode can be completed in around 10 hours so I guess thats why 5 would make sense
Re: Starfield Will Run At 4K / 30FPS On Xbox Series X, 1440p / 30FPS On Series S
I got a full explantion for 30fps:
Source on twitter: @Doctor_Cupcakes
"Astonishing story emerging today from Bethesda sources that Todd Howard demanded the development team prioritise sandwiches over frames. “Another! Another!” he demanded as the FPS tumbled from a smooth 60 to a mere 30. “Panini over performance” became a motto among the team."
Shocked that Pure Xbox did not report this.
Re: Review: Starfield Xbox Wireless Controller - Don't Sleep On This Special Edition Delight
I am planning on getting this around the end of the month when it's payday - the best ver I have seen since the Xbox One Cyberpunk 2077 controller in summer 2020.
Can't speak for the UK but stock levels where I work in the UK are pretty good.
Re: God Of War: Ragnarök Dev Chimes In On Starfield's 30FPS Xbox Limit
DGC would be saying nothing about this if his main console was an Xbox and not a PS5.
Dev is correct to say that the choice to prioritise 30fps and better complex gaming systems/visual fidelity doesn't mean an unfinished game.
RDR2 is also the same, which is why it isn't easy for them to just put a 60fps mode on XSX and PS5. There are a lot of complex systems at play. If they could do a 60fps T2 would be all over that cash grab.
It's very unfair to call a devs lazy just because they made a creative choice on how to use the limited console hardware. The hardware was already weaker than a lot of high end PC's when it launched nearly 3 years ago and consoles are a budget friendly way to get into gaming. If I want 60fps + with 4K and complex systems on AAA games I got to have a high end PC which would cost a lot more. I understand some players can't play at 30fps due to eye issues and I feel sorry for them as it means they have to invest a lot more into their hobby.
Re: id Software Apparently Helped Starfield's Team With Graphics
Excited to see the fruits of labour in just under 3 months!
Re: Where To Pre-Order The All-New 1TB Black Xbox Series S
@FatalBubbles I mean for me it was an £230 saving (Series X mostly now sold at £480 bundle in the UK) I already have a PS5 and switch, the £250 one is more value for sure if you don't mind the lower storage but the £180 saving (£300 version) for the 1TB is still decent if you just want a cheaper way to play games like Starfield and the other upcoming gamepass games and exclusives.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The 'Extended' Xbox Games Showcase 2023?
Honestly I expected a little more newness, or even some deeper gameplay looks at those big Xbox first party AAA games ( not BTS). Was weaker than last years version. The short gamepass sizzle real was the highlight.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Starfield Constellation, Premium Editions & Special Controller And Headset
It all looks great but I have 2 gripes:
A starfield Storage device should really be able to store and play starfield
The UK digital store pricing should really be 5-10$ cheaper based on conversion rates like a lot of other punishers do. $100 right now is around £80. In real terms thats around $125 for the same game.
Re: Avatar: Frontiers Of Pandora Free DLC Announced For PS5, Paid On Xbox
I mean if I was going to say if I would rather have the marketing deal for Star Wars Outlaws (Xbox) or This game.. well I think Sony got a raw deal haha.
Re: Where To Pre-Order The All-New 1TB Black Xbox Series S
@FatalBubbles Mainly PS5/Switch/ Xbox Series X console owners that want an Xbox at a more affordable price. A lot of people will also prefer the storage and the colour. I got a Series S to go along with my PS5 and Switch.
Re: Xbox's New Starfield Controller Includes A Special Dynamic Background For Series X|S
Thinking on getting the controller, thankfully the stock levels in the UK at least are pretty good on this one. I think MS knew it would be a big seller.
Re: Avatar: Frontiers Of Pandora Launches This December For Xbox Series X|S
@Tharsman Yeah this has ubisoft 50% sale after 3 months kind of vibes. I think I will pick it up on a sale.
Re: Xbox Exec: If Starfield Released Today It'd Have The Fewest Bugs Of Any Bethesda Launch
I played Cyberpunk 2077 on an Xbox One at launch so I have very low standards haha
Re: The Xbox Series X Doesn't Need A Major Upgrade Right Now, Suggests Phil Spencer
I think developers need to learn how to get the best and really push the Series X and PS5 before upgrades happen. Some studios are starting to get there now but honestly It could be another couple of years before we really see what a Series X can do.
You have to wonder if Xbox does not do an Series X upgrade in 2024 that PS may quietly scrap thiers to save money on something which they will have to mass produce at a loss.
2023 Sony gives me that kind of vibe of just doing the bare minimum now because they will make good profits without taking too many risks. They can run off of old IP, Wolverine and some GaaS games.
Re: Ubisoft Shares A Closer Look At Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown
Gameplay looked pretty decent to me
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade Ubisoft Forward 2023?
For me a C :
Re: Avatar: Frontiers Of Pandora Launches This December For Xbox Series X|S
I wanted to enjoy it but I just couldn't
Re: Star Wars: Outlaws Gets Lengthy Gameplay Reveal Ahead Of 2024 Xbox Release
I enjoyed this much more than the Avatar reveal and I am not a fan of either IP
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At Ubisoft Forward 2023
Star Wars looked pretty good to be honest.
Re: Poll: Are You Interested In Buying The Black Xbox Series S?
Like most people here I already own an current gen Xbox - For me I have the launch Series S which has served me well with an expansion card but this is the year I will prob upgrade to a Series X. The version seems like a good sell for PS or Switch owners who want a cheaper Xbox with some decent storage.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's 2023 Showcase Confirmed There's Something For Everyone At Xbox
No kids games, I'm selling my xbox
Re: Xbox 'Extended' Showcase To Feature Additional Games This Tuesday
Eiyuden Chronicle 100 Heroes release date would be great
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Brings Its Epic Open World Adventure To Xbox In 2024
If it is SP I will consider giving it a go
Re: June 2023 Showcases: Every Xbox-Related Event Announced So Far
Forza Monthly will be on at 7pm BST on 13th June.
Re: Tell Me Why Developer Reveals 'Jusant', Launching On Xbox Game Pass This Fall
Looks interesting and a great reason for me to have gamepass.
Re: Towerborne, From The 'Banner Saga' Studio, Arrives On Xbox Game Pass In 2024
Can you play on your own or do I need to make some friends? haha