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@__jamiie See, a big part of that was because it didn't play or feel like a Fallout game. That's why a Fallout 4 in space, without being an actual Fallout game gameplay or lore-wise, should've been an easy success. But they dumbed it down so much it'll take a lot of DLCs and a lot of reworkings to make it what it should've been, and confidence for Bethesda to do that is at a critical low.

@__jamiie They simplified it too much from Fallout 4 for me to enjoy it. 'Fallout 4 in space' was something I looked forward too, but everything is dumbed down and limited so much by comparison I'd rather just re-play Fallout 4.

One of the reasons GPU costs extra is for this and 99% of the time the offerings are worse than what you get for the base PS Plus.

Friendly reminder, for some reason, some DLCs for BC games aren't available on the modern store. So those'll be gone too.

@somnambulance As far as value is concerned it's priced well. $20 a year for online, NES, SNES, & GB games, and the option to purchase Vouchers is pretty fair. $40 more for the Expansion Pak is a little more debatable though, and comes down to how much you like the N64 & GBA game lineups.

I don't think people realize how big and messy of a difference there is between A.I. Generated and A.I. Assisted. There's 0 reason any of the 3 CoD developers should be cutting corners with how many entire extra studios have been killed to help them alongside their own teams.

@Beetlebum91 There's 0 reason they can't have BC games just for the Series and add a disclaimer to those titles. I don't buy the 'ran out of Publishers' or licensing issues, especially when you have sequels BC but not the originals, but having to make them run on Xbox Ones w/ VCR players built in and such? That makes more sense.

"The online won't end this month." That's not reassuring from Microsoft, they could shut it down on the first of the next month. This is the same company that uses 'for the foreseeable future' for less than 3 months. Seriously, just say the when instead of using weasel words since the when is always so soon.

@Markatron84 And it's WB, 'underperforming' to them is 'you're not on par with the biggest game in your genre'.

Only Forza Horizon 4: Ultimate Edition since it's getting delisted. Everything else is the same price or nearly the same price as every sale, so why bother.

@NEStalgia The successful transition from the disaster Wii U to major success Switch was because the Wii U hardware was bad but the games were amazing as in most cases. So just taking the same games while improving issues like frame rate dips & adding any DLC for a 'Definitive/Deluxe' version on a system that functions properly was enough.

That's weird, weren't the first 2 just added via an update so you didn't have to go out of your way? Regardless I'm excited to see more content and that they plan to add more for a long while. It keeps on giving like Vampire Survivors.

Own everything on this list from previous sales except the CoD games, and I'm not budging on those until they go lower.

Wonder if Forza Horizon 4: Ultimate Edition will have one last super low cut before the end of the year or if I should pick it up now.

This alone is going to drop the number of people who have GP, and like the price hikes they'll somehow be shocked when this not only doesn't improve things but worsens them.

Ah yes, the logical response to stagnation - charging more for the same product! I'm sure that won't have the opposite desired effect.

We need a lot more games that need less commitment. Microsoft especially needs them having a Subscription service, things that take less time and money to develop and can fill the gaps without big AAA releases.

And they clearly don't know this considering they shut down Tango Gameworks who was a perfect example of that role.

I cannot emphasis how much I hate having to wait last minute for these sales. They had so much prep-time and could've done this at any point, but instead choose the last 45 or so days.

Quite a bit less between the stagnation of the industry and less time to play with friends & family.

Ironic how a slow drip feed is the fasted way to make no one care.

And unlike back in the day I'm sure Microsoft won't give us anything for such a massive outage. After all, the fans and any studio not working on CoD are the ones that're paying for the Activision merger.

Would be nice if they were part of that last 360 sale batch before the store closes, especially since BF3 is BC.

Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 seems randomly specific but welcome. So now on Xbox you have 2 F2P Platform Fighters in MultiVersus & Brawlhalla one one on GP.

Sounds kind of like Cybertron Adventures for the Wii, which was a Railshooter with vehicle segments. Will wait for reviews, but depending on price I might just buy it regardless.

Isn't AC1 the only one that's not on everything? Why can't we get remakes of games that are actually hard to find or not available digitally?

There's gonna be so many people who download these, don't read, and wonder why they're not getting Achievements from future Expansions with too many hours to reload.

If Harry Potter for Kinect can get relisted just long enough before the 360 store closes for some quick sales, I don't see why other licensed games couldn't. These however are... not great.

Remember like last year they said there were no plans to delist Forza Horizon 4 at any point in the near future? Just like there were no plans to close the 360 Store in the near future? Almost like you can trust Microsoft no further than you can throw their HQ.

@ValentineMeikin They're not Backwards Compatible. Fall of Cybertron, like Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2, had a digital-only Remaster, and RoTDS was a cross-Gen title. So no way to play WFC outside original hardware and only FOC if you bought it while it was still listed.

I know a lot of people didn't like Rise of the Dark Spark. And while the Campaign was garbage both in story and being cheap in difficulty, the Escalation Mode was the best of the series. It had all the best aspects of both Escalation Modes from WFC & FOC along while improving them and adding new things. Choose any Autobot/Decepticon on their respective Maps, being able to choose from all previous Maps along with new ones, loadouts, the equivalent of Skulls from Halo to make things more difficult in exchange for greater rewards, various defenses to build upgrade and repair, Wave Bosses different for each Map, and good scaling in challenge to the Wave number + Difficulty Setting. They could cut the Campaign and just sell the Escalation Mode by itself and I'd buy it full price.

Apparently Harry Potter for Kinect was relisted just for this sale, because you can buy it again now. That's a thing.

Didn't they also delist the 360 version because of this?

Really wish they would've announced these way early... would've saved me a lot of money as someone who hates to wait last minute. Anyhow even if you don't have a 360 anymore, would recommend buying BLACK through the 360 online store for 99 cents since it is BC.

Bethesda is one more meh game from death by mediocrity, which is a lot slower and more costly than 1 game ruining your reputation. I'd be scared beyond belief if I was any of the smaller devs Microsoft's gotten via larger acquisitions. Because why punish the people who make the mistakes when you can fire devs like Tango Gameworks to make up for some the cost, so no lesson is learned and the process repeats until you're the Disney of the console industry.

Closures decided by a bunch of suits with 0 know about the industry for short term benefits. Hope Tango Gameworks forms a banger Indie Studio and puts all their games on everything but Xbox out of spite.

@Spider-Kev Now see I heard the last one was glitchy and really repetitive even for a Beat 'Em Up, and the Fighting Game was just meh, nothing particularly interesting (gameplay-wise). I also see people complaining about the Megazord fights being QTEs again but none of them suggesting alternatives for 5-6 players being involved with 1 character.

Isn't PowerWash Sim part of GPC?

Looks amazing compared to the last one.

Wow that's a pretty terrible one for MultiVersus even compared to the ones from the Beta, which already weren't too hot.

Played the first one on Switch and loved it, gonna download this ASAP.

I'd just do the log-in bonuses for now if you're just on the fence; for 2 Days you'll get the Banana Guard free and for 3 & 11 you'll get Skins for Velma & Superman respectively. Sadly it's a reverse SS Kill the Justice League, where they didn't expect that many people to be interested so it's pretty scuffed online rn. There's also the Rift Mode you could do solo or with a Friend though. If you played Smash Ultimate it's like a watered down World of Light.

Well if it stays under 343 it'll take 5 years to be playable and another 2 to be enjoyable, so...

@rustyduck That's if you have the V.A.N.S. Perk, which is really bad so they added an extra Rank in one of the DLCs to justify people who picked it lol.

I've had way more problems with my Series X than my later model 360 in a fraction of the time. Never imagined I'd have to factory reset a console so the Home Menu can work, and my controller started drifting with less play than my first set of Joycons.

I feel Lego LOTR not getting relisted on Xbox like it did on Steam despite it being BC is infinitely sadder, since one was a good game and the other no one expected to be good.

The grind for characters isn't so bad if you're not in hurry or know who you want. If you don't feel like playing one day just do a Match of Co-op Vs AI for an easy Win for the Daily 200 Gold, it adds up faster than you think and doesn't take that long.

There's also rumor those who played the Beta will get the first Battle Pass for free, with a possibility of applying it to all future ones as well.

@Chrisajax 'Be serious please', while saying the same thing everyone else who hasn't actually played the game says. Can we PLEASE get over the "it's not on my plastic box so it bad!" mentality?

I was a Nintendo kid, and got into the 360 after realizing just how many games weren't on their Platform.

I don't care at this point. Even before the recent closings Microsoft & Activision have always been trash at managing studios and their talent. Even if they make the actual best game ever there's a good chance they get dismantled to work on something like CoD anyways.

Only CoD I played was MW3 2011. Tried the multiplayer but was trash at it, messed around with the campaign a bit, but absolutely loved the survival mode. I'd probably love Zombies if not for the fact I get scared easily, so I already have an idea of how well that'd go because of feral ghouls in Fallout running up from behind to smack me which makes me jump.