@Fiendish-Beaver I have a Xbox for two things: game pass, and Microsoft rewards. I’d still be using my reward points on the Xbox store. But yeah, Steam would be stiff competition. And a PC-thing without Steam would be a harder sell unless suddenly every indie game launched not just on Steam but on the Xbox store
I would totally be up for a device that plays Xbox games, plays game pass, plays potentially Steam games, runs windows, connects to my tv, but still functions as a PC as well basically.
People have such weird knee-jerk reactions to anything involving AI, and for good reason. But it would be nice if people would stop scrolling and think a bit, or at least put more thought into their responses. People behave like AI
I’m also underwhelmed. If it enhanced switch 1 games out of the box, and if it was launching with some stuff I was actually interested in, it might be another story.
Paying for updates, and the $80 game prices, and the lack of stuff I care about… makes it a harder sell.
@themightyant exactly. In order to figure out timing we really have to see where the holes are. They don’t want to undercut expedition 33 either I’m sure.
Spacing out searches doesn’t work for me. I can’t go sit down at my computer the required 8 (!!) times per day. Not everyone lives on a computer. So it just is what it is.
I’m still glad the rewards program exists. I rarely spend actual money for a game anymore (besides discounted game pass renewals).
Controllers are one of the downsides to Xbox series for me. Pack-in controller hurts my hand, Xbox one controller got stick drift and is outdated and no longer available, 3rd party controllers typically aren’t wireless, and elite controllers are an expensive risk.
So I’ve got a wired 8bitdo. Great other than the wire.
@darylb24 how did you finish so fast? Did you do all the side quests? I’m at 48 hours and am possibly half through the 3rd area. I’d like to speed up, but I want to do all the stuff! Maybe I spend too much time looking for unneeded loot.
It was kinda late for dlc. But I know some people don’t mind that.
Whole thing was odd. “We won’t do dlc!” “Okay, we’ll do dlc!” “No wait! Not gonna!”
Wish them all the luck on the sequel tho. First was good, tho a bit checklisty, and with that solid base and more time and inspiration, it could be amazing.
@Residentsteven I wasn't into Rare in their Nintendo days even. I always thought the Donkey Kong stuff was highly overrated (except the great soundtracks in DKC). They got lucky with Goldeneye It seems like their older stuff from back when was pretty interesting, though, judging by the Rare retro compilation.
@Millionski I dno. Between GPU and Rewards, I haven't had to buy much/anything in a long time We don't know GPU is going first party anyway. This is all just wild speculation. Just because Sega wants to do their own service and is pulling everything somewhat rapidly doesn't mean it's going first party only.
@Millionski well they’d lose a lot of subscribers then, like me. I have less than zero interest in cod. Gpu has gotten worse for me since the activision buyout instead of better.
If Game Pass becomes first party only, I’ll be done. I like a few of their first party games, but I mostly liked the indie stuff and others, which has been less lately.
Either way, just because sega is leaving all at once doesn’t mean GP is suddenly going to be first party only.
Got more games leaving than coming these days with the sega exodus. It’s going to be sad not having Atlus games come to game pass anymore, but I guess P3R was the last one anyway. Had to buy SMT and metaphor!
@FarmDog08 it’s a totally different focus and experience, but I think they’re actually even better games overall 😉 Just not as graphically advanced. Still very pretty.
It’s the same as they did with PoE 2 a number of years ago. It’s an option. People asked for them to do it with the first game as well, but the time and money wasn’t there. I guess now it is!
@Tasuki I think I burnt out a little spending too much time on everything. Some of the side quests are just okay. Which is totally fine, but I don't want to miss the good ones. I think I'm maybe doing too much exploring and insisting on finding everything. When did I become this way??? It makes me feel like I don't have time left in my life for everything and need to hurry up.
So when stuff gets added to standard or core, does that reset the 12 month counter? Or can it still leave all tiers 12 months after it first joined the service, or 24 months, or whatever?
I hope it’s not bad. I doubt it’ll live up to its predecessor, and I’m not sure they were trying to make a true sequel. But I hope it’s good.
I feel like it’s gonna be buggy and rushed despite all this time. Paradox wants it done and has been releasing broken stuff lately, cancelling stuff, and disappointing.
@Tasuki yeah I’m at least 40 hours and finishing up emerald stair. Might be more like 45 hours! Seems like each zone takes me 20 hours. I’m actually TRYING to hurry, but I’ve been doing all the side quests. Don’t wanna take forever but don’t wanna miss stuff either! I’m gonna maybe try spending less time climbing around for loot. The loot gets pretty samey.
I don’t know how other people are getting through the whole game in 20 hours…
@Blastfemur I definitely under-budgeted the time commitment! At the same time, I don't really want to skip the side quests. It's odd to me that most gamers apparently don't do side quests?? (and then complain games are too short
Don’t forget KunnikuNeko, a game about a weird cat that can turn into a cat-headed muscle man. It’s genuinely the funniest game demo I’ve ever played and a great platformer.
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Re: Xbox's Next-Gen Vision Could Transform How We Look At Consoles In The Future
@Fiendish-Beaver I have a Xbox for two things: game pass, and Microsoft rewards. I’d still be using my reward points on the Xbox store. But yeah, Steam would be stiff competition. And a PC-thing without Steam would be a harder sell unless suddenly every indie game launched not just on Steam but on the Xbox store
Re: Xbox's Next-Gen Vision Could Transform How We Look At Consoles In The Future
I would totally be up for a device that plays Xbox games, plays game pass, plays potentially Steam games, runs windows, connects to my tv, but still functions as a PC as well basically.
Re: Xbox Fans Aren't Happy About Microsoft's New Quake 2 AI Demo
People have such weird knee-jerk reactions to anything involving AI, and for good reason. But it would be nice if people would stop scrolling and think a bit, or at least put more thought into their responses. People behave like AI
Re: Here's What Might Leave Xbox Game Pass In May 2025
Sheesh it’s hard to keep up with all the stuff leaving
Re: Xbox Adds Multiple New Dynamic Backgrounds To Kick Off April
They need better Avowed ones.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's South Of Midnight
It’s so weird how opinions and scores on games are so over the map these days. It used to all be a little more objective
Re: Former Xbox Exec Throws Shade At Switch 2, Says It's A 'Hard Pass'
I’m also underwhelmed. If it enhanced switch 1 games out of the box, and if it was launching with some stuff I was actually interested in, it might be another story.
Paying for updates, and the $80 game prices, and the lack of stuff I care about… makes it a harder sell.
Re: Seven Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass In Early April 2025
Looks like I need to speed run botany manor and Harold halibut!
While trying to finish avowed and get ahead on some other game pass stuff!
Re: Nintendo Just Broke Our Hearts With Today's Final Fantasy 7 Annoucement
@FraserG I for one am quite glad you’re not taking article suggestions from the audience, or at least not that member of the audience…
Re: Nintendo Just Broke Our Hearts With Today's Final Fantasy 7 Annoucement
Yeah their multiplatform strategy stinks.
Re: 10 Exciting Xbox Indie Games To Look Out For In April 2025
Blue prince looks excellent.
Wish more of these were on game pass
Re: Report: GTA V Is Making Its Return On Xbox Game Pass This Month
This is like the 3rd time it’s been on there. 🙄 I’m surprised they don’t just keep it permanently to sell gta online garbage.
Re: BAFTA Announces List Of Top 21 Most Influential Games Ever
Yeah. Bizarre list skewed toward newer stuff.
Adventure (which started on mainframes) kind of influenced everything, and it’s not even on there.
Re: 'Iffy' Rumour Claims Oblivion Remake Could Hit Xbox Game Pass This Week
@themightyant exactly. In order to figure out timing we really have to see where the holes are. They don’t want to undercut expedition 33 either I’m sure.
Re: 'Iffy' Rumour Claims Oblivion Remake Could Hit Xbox Game Pass This Week
Seems like weird timing.
Re: Microsoft Rewards 'Limits' Are Causing Frustration Across Xbox, PC & Mobile
Glad it’s not just me experiencing this!
Spacing out searches doesn’t work for me. I can’t go sit down at my computer the required 8 (!!) times per day. Not everyone lives on a computer. So it just is what it is.
I’m still glad the rewards program exists. I rarely spend actual money for a game anymore (besides discounted game pass renewals).
Re: Amazon Adds 'Frequently Returned Item' Warning To Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller
Controllers are one of the downsides to Xbox series for me. Pack-in controller hurts my hand, Xbox one controller got stick drift and is outdated and no longer available, 3rd party controllers typically aren’t wireless, and elite controllers are an expensive risk.
So I’ve got a wired 8bitdo. Great other than the wire.
Re: Avowed Update 1.31 Now Live, Includes Improved Performance On Xbox Series X|S
@RentedPanda All these people being like "I finished the game in 19 hours" like... ok...???
I'm not even reading all the lore. I started skipping it, because I was taking long enough just doing side quests and exploring for treasure!
Re: Multiple Games Announced For Xbox Following March 2025's Nintendo Direct
I wish more of them were coming to game pass
Re: Sony-Owned 'Patapon' Is Coming To PS5, Switch And PC, But No Sign Of Xbox
That’s even more a bummer about saga frontier 2. Romancing saga 2 remake also skipped Xbox. square and sega are both letting me down. And Sony too.
Just means I won’t bother buying or playing the games anytime soon. Too much else to play already that actually is on Xbox.
Re: Avowed Update 1.31 Now Live, Includes Improved Performance On Xbox Series X|S
@darylb24 how did you finish so fast? Did you do all the side quests? I’m at 48 hours and am possibly half through the 3rd area. I’d like to speed up, but I want to do all the stuff! Maybe I spend too much time looking for unneeded loot.
Re: Avowed Update 1.31 Now Live, Includes Improved Performance On Xbox Series X|S
@RentedPanda that’s how long it took me too, about 20 hours per area so far (partway into 3rd area now)
Re: Avowed Update 1.31 Now Live, Includes Improved Performance On Xbox Series X|S
Wow. I was wondering what the heck was going on with the compass. That explains that.
Altho I feel the game is an 8, I’m sure having fun with it. It just feels a little padded. Maybe my fault for trying to do everything.
Re: Report: Hogwarts Legacy DLC Cancelled, Definitive Edition Scrapped As Well
It was kinda late for dlc. But I know some people don’t mind that.
Whole thing was odd. “We won’t do dlc!” “Okay, we’ll do dlc!” “No wait! Not gonna!”
Wish them all the luck on the sequel tho. First was good, tho a bit checklisty, and with that solid base and more time and inspiration, it could be amazing.
Re: Xbox's Perfect Dark Co-Developer Announces Several Layoffs
@Residentsteven I wasn't into Rare in their Nintendo days even. I always thought the Donkey Kong stuff was highly overrated (except the great soundtracks in DKC). They got lucky with Goldeneye It seems like their older stuff from back when was pretty interesting, though, judging by the Rare retro compilation.
Re: Reminder: 10 Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass To Finish Off March
@Millionski I dno. Between GPU and Rewards, I haven't had to buy much/anything in a long time We don't know GPU is going first party anyway. This is all just wild speculation. Just because Sega wants to do their own service and is pulling everything somewhat rapidly doesn't mean it's going first party only.
Re: Reminder: 10 Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass To Finish Off March
@Millionski well they’d lose a lot of subscribers then, like me. I have less than zero interest in cod. Gpu has gotten worse for me since the activision buyout instead of better.
Re: Reminder: 10 Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass To Finish Off March
If Game Pass becomes first party only, I’ll be done. I like a few of their first party games, but I mostly liked the indie stuff and others, which has been less lately.
Either way, just because sega is leaving all at once doesn’t mean GP is suddenly going to be first party only.
Re: Reminder: 10 Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass To Finish Off March
Got more games leaving than coming these days with the sega exodus. It’s going to be sad not having Atlus games come to game pass anymore, but I guess P3R was the last one anyway. Had to buy SMT and metaphor!
Re: Xbox's Perfect Dark Co-Developer Announces Several Layoffs
What is rare even working on if they’re outsourcing for perfect dark? 🙄
Re: Xbox Dev Obsidian Announces New Turn-Based Combat Feature For Pillars Of Eternity
@FarmDog08 it’s a totally different focus and experience, but I think they’re actually even better games overall 😉 Just not as graphically advanced. Still very pretty.
Re: Xbox Dev Obsidian Announces New Turn-Based Combat Feature For Pillars Of Eternity
It’s the same as they did with PoE 2 a number of years ago. It’s an option. People asked for them to do it with the first game as well, but the time and money wasn’t there. I guess now it is!
Hoping for a turn-based PoE 3.
Re: Opinion: It's Been A Quiet March, But Next Month Looks Awesome For Xbox Game Pass
@Tasuki I think I burnt out a little spending too much time on everything. Some of the side quests are just okay. Which is totally fine, but I don't want to miss the good ones. I think I'm maybe doing too much exploring and insisting on finding everything. When did I become this way??? It makes me feel like I don't have time left in my life for everything and need to hurry up.
Re: Three Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass Core (March 26)
@Fishticon Yeah, maybe I should try that
Re: Three Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass Core (March 26)
@Kaloudz I desperately wanted to like it. I was expecting pre-3D Zelda, but I got overhead dark souls and really wasn’t into it.
Re: Three Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass Core (March 26)
So when stuff gets added to standard or core, does that reset the 12 month counter? Or can it still leave all tiers 12 months after it first joined the service, or 24 months, or whatever?
Re: Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Gets Updated October Release Window On Xbox
I hope it’s not bad. I doubt it’ll live up to its predecessor, and I’m not sure they were trying to make a true sequel. But I hope it’s good.
I feel like it’s gonna be buggy and rushed despite all this time. Paradox wants it done and has been releasing broken stuff lately, cancelling stuff, and disappointing.
Re: Talking Point: Almost 6 Months On, Are You Still Playing Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024?
I haven’t gotten around to trying it yet. No rush, and it’s probably a lot better now than at launch.
Re: Opinion: It's Been A Quiet March, But Next Month Looks Awesome For Xbox Game Pass
@Tasuki yeah I’m at least 40 hours and finishing up emerald stair. Might be more like 45 hours! Seems like each zone takes me 20 hours. I’m actually TRYING to hurry, but I’ve been doing all the side quests. Don’t wanna take forever but don’t wanna miss stuff either! I’m gonna maybe try spending less time climbing around for loot. The loot gets pretty samey.
I don’t know how other people are getting through the whole game in 20 hours…
Re: Opinion: It's Been A Quiet March, But Next Month Looks Awesome For Xbox Game Pass
Blue prince and tempopo look like guaranteed winners.
Hoping that for Clair obscur too
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 22-23)
@Blastfemur I definitely under-budgeted the time commitment! At the same time, I don't really want to skip the side quests. It's odd to me that most gamers apparently don't do side quests?? (and then complain games are too short
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 22-23)
I’m finished up the second zone in Avowed and at 40 hours. Is every zone gonna take me 20 hours??? I thought people were saying this game was short!
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (March 24-28)
Don’t forget KunnikuNeko, a game about a weird cat that can turn into a cat-headed muscle man. It’s genuinely the funniest game demo I’ve ever played and a great platformer.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Atomfall On Xbox Game Pass
Hmm. Sounds like a neat game. But with so much to play, it definitely would have competed better for my time with some more enthusiastic write-ups.
Re: Bethesda Wishes The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion A Happy Birthday
@LostInBlue0 it looks like a sweetroll! That’s been a running gag since elder scrolls 1.
Re: Bethesda Wishes The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion A Happy Birthday
They wished oblivion a happy bday with a comma splice.
Re: Atomfall 'Pre-Launch' Footage Showcases Upcoming Xbox Game Pass RPG
I dno about calling it an RPG, but I’m hoping it turns out.
Re: Talking Point: What's The Best Xbox Game You've Played During The Series X|S Generation?
Chained Echoes for me, followed by sea of stars, baldurs gate 3, metaphor refantazio, and like a dragon 8
Re: Free Play Days: Try These Xbox Games For Free (March 20-23)
SMTV is great. I played it all summer and could potentially play it again if only I had infinite time in my life.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Ultimate's Latest Addition Is Going Down Pretty Well So Far
It didn’t click with me at all. Guess I’ll have to give it another try. It’s probably just not my thing tho.