@DJKingaling People will likely to buy a Switch 2 for Mario Kart or DK (or both).
Besides Hades 2 is also coming to the Nintendo Switch 1, so those on Switch 1 and want Hades 2 don't exactly need a Switch 2 right now to play Hades 2.
Slight correction: The game is also coming to the original Nintendo Switch as well. Supergiant said this on their Twitter recently. So the first consoles to get Hades 2 are the Nintendo Switch 1 and the Nintendo Switch 2.
So its not a Switch 2 console exclusive. It is a Nintendo console exclusive while game is also releasing on PC at the same time.
What Doug said makes sense. The Switch 1 has 150 million consoles sold (nearing PS2 levels) and they realize that some people will not be able to afford the Switch 2 immediately at launch and that is okay, so basically they're having the Switch 1 as an option for the people and will continue to support it for as long as necessary they will do as they do not want to alienate them fully. The PS2 got games until 2012. The PS4 is still getting ports of games. So the same can happen here right? And like one other comment said, Don's comment is more like "treating those who couldn't get Xbox One because they didn't have internet connection like 2nd class citizens" and Doug's comment is more like "Hey if you can't afford the Switch 2 right now, that is okay, we will continue to support the Switch 1 for the foreseeable future".
I expect the Switch 1 to get more games (Hades 2, Shadow Labyrinth, Rhythm Heaven Groove, Tomodaichi Life Living the Dream, etc.) so the Switch 1 people will not be completely left in the dark.
@acmiguens I think it’s more Series S will help Switch 2 get more games than the other way around mainly because of Microsoft’s parity clause (where every Series X game has to work on Series S). Not only that but the Switch 2 is likely to sell decently well and it will also be a big hit in Japan most likely (it’s cheaper in Japan).
Besides developers can always use the “not enough player base on Xbox” card when it comes to 3rd party games.
Will I get Switch 2 at launch? No. But will I get it eventually? Yeah I will.
Game price will be an issue but so far MK World is 80 while others are likely to be 70 at most (might be lower at 60 depending on the game). But Nintendo games are generally highly quality so.. yeah let’s wait and see.
@Dan1283 where did I say I am defending Nintendo? All I said is that “flexible” meaning the game price vary depending on them, some are 70, some are 60, one is 80, and some are lower? And I did say the price of MK World is a bit steep.
It’s also just a fact that despite the price, people will still buy it.
@ButterySmooth30FPS I think its time to accept that since inflation is a thing, prices will go up in time. So we should stop being surprised if game prices do go up tbh.
Sony is more likely to put games on Switch/Switch 2 (mainly Japan Studio games) albeit indirectly. Clearly they don’t see Nintendo as competition and they’re even working together (Zelda movie), but Sony sees Microsoft as competition. I honestly don’t think Sony needs to put games on Xbox for a long time.
@IOI Again a lot of people don't understand. FH5 going multiplatform to PlayStation 5 (and potentially the Nintendo Switch 2) is like giving away Gran Turismo, God of War, Mario, Zelda away to Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo respectively.
And as I said previously, if Xbox consoles are gonna continue to decline then 3rd party companies will start skipping it seeing that there is no value in it. They will instead go to PC, PS5 and Nintendo Switch 2.
PlayStation and Nintendo have no reason to put games on Xbox when their hardware is doing well. PlayStation's main issue is that their games cost way too much money to make so I think PlayStation porting games to PC day 1 will eventually happen down the line. Nintendo is doing its own thing and are successful in their own way and won't go multiplatform. Multiplatform will actually kill Nintendo.
@Fiendish-Beaver you are absolutely correct. Baffles me how a lot of people don’t quite understand this. I would also like to mention that 3rd party for Xbox will dwindle if more Xbox players jump ship to PlayStation or PC which lead to lower player base on Xbox consoles.
An Xbox staple on PS. I expect this game to come to Switch 2 as well. Now you may say you don’t care about exclusivity but do exclusives sell consoles? Yes. So if you give away your exclusives, would more people buy your console or not? And if the console doesn’t sell well, you’re at risk of losing 3rd party support. So if 3rd party games start skipping Xbox, don’t be surprised.
As long as Sony continues to go ahead with the PlayStation which sells more in hardware than Xbox, I don’t see them needing or having to port any of their 1st party games for a long time. Perhaps they’ll port more to PC is more likely but staggered enough to where it won’t hurt hardware sales.
@Utena-mobile see some people here don't quite understand. The reason why I said Xbox is gonna be even far worse off if they port Halo to Switch 2 and PS5 is because this is the game that made Xbox what Xbox is. Giving Halo to PlayStation and Nintendo is the equivalent of giving away God of War and Mario to competing platforms.
@Dm9982 oh I know they’re not monopolizing the genre. It’s just that some comments here and in NL think that way despite most of us knowing it isn’t. So I just pointed that out here.
If Palworld is indeed using this patents, then they had it coming.
@Savage_Joe a lot of misinformation has happened because a lot of people believe it is copyright and think Nintendo is monopolizing an entire genre. When that’s not the case (SMT, MH Stories and such exist).
And supposedly, this patent was filed in May of this year and approved in August or September this year IN THE US. It MIGHT be that this supposed patent was approved earlier in Japan around somewhere in 2021.And this case will most likely be using the Japanese patents.
We are not sure if this is the parent in question. Nintendo mentioned multiple patent infringements. I heard another theory that Palworld was using one of Nintendo’s patents that they patented for BOTW/TOTK.
I think more or less the way THEY CODED THIS might be the reason why Nintendo found them. If they coded the same mechanic, but used slightly different code then this lawsuit wouldn’t happen. If they used the exact same code, then it will be troublesome.
Oh and this will likely take 5 years to be resolved unless they settle it out of court.
So Palworld has responded to this and they said they are "unaware" of the specific patents they have been accused of infringing upon on. I will also point that a lot of people have actually tagged TPC and Nintendo about this game earlier as well. AND FOR THE LAST TIME, this is a PATENT infringement not a COPYRIGHT. PLEASE read the article more carefully.
"ensure that indie game developers are not hindered or discouraged from pursuing their creative ideas". I am sorry but didn't your own CEO say he doesn't have a creative vision??? And not only that but doesn't one of your own games literally seems to be 1:1 copy of HOLLOW KNIGHT?
If it was copyright, why hasn't Nintendo gone after Yo Kai or Monster Hunter Stories, or SMT/Persona??? They are not claiming to own an entire genre. There is a bunch of monster collecting games on the Switch. Now I am not sure who will win here, but. BUT IF PALWORLD has been using Nintendo/TPC , then they had it coming.
And also seriously. A lot of these people have been sending death threats to Nintendo and TPC. Grow up. You are no better than Nintendo. You're just as bad. Or in fact, WORSE.
@NEStalgia If you want to know more about this patent thing, you should go to the NintendoLife article on this. One user has posted a lot of information that is actually quite interesting.
@NEStalgia so according to some people in NintendoLife, there are 3 patents Nintendo has regarding Pokemon (20240100432, US11782898B2 and US11782898B2). So these patents deal with software, coding techniques, Data base infrastructure. So its not copyright that TPC is going for but patent. If Palworld is using those patents, then it is a big deal.
I would like to thank @HeadPirate for this information.
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Re: Nightdive Wants To Know Which Xbox 360 Games Need A Remaster
@Scottdevine53 man, that would be nice if it could happen.
Re: Hades 2 Fans Will Have To Wait A Bit Longer For The Xbox Version
@Millionski oh and you forgot about Tomodaichi Life Living the Dream and Rhythm Heaven Groove coming next year.
Re: Hades 2 Fans Will Have To Wait A Bit Longer For The Xbox Version
@DJKingaling People will likely to buy a Switch 2 for Mario Kart or DK (or both).
Besides Hades 2 is also coming to the Nintendo Switch 1, so those on Switch 1 and want Hades 2 don't exactly need a Switch 2 right now to play Hades 2.
Re: Hades 2 Fans Will Have To Wait A Bit Longer For The Xbox Version
Slight correction: The game is also coming to the original Nintendo Switch as well. Supergiant said this on their Twitter recently. So the first consoles to get Hades 2 are the Nintendo Switch 1 and the Nintendo Switch 2.
So its not a Switch 2 console exclusive. It is a Nintendo console exclusive while game is also releasing on PC at the same time.
Re: Nintendo's Doug Bowser Just Channelled One Of The Most Infamous Xbox Quotes Ever
What Doug said makes sense. The Switch 1 has 150 million consoles sold (nearing PS2 levels) and they realize that some people will not be able to afford the Switch 2 immediately at launch and that is okay, so basically they're having the Switch 1 as an option for the people and will continue to support it for as long as necessary they will do as they do not want to alienate them fully. The PS2 got games until 2012. The PS4 is still getting ports of games. So the same can happen here right? And like one other comment said, Don's comment is more like "treating those who couldn't get Xbox One because they didn't have internet connection like 2nd class citizens" and Doug's comment is more like "Hey if you can't afford the Switch 2 right now, that is okay, we will continue to support the Switch 1 for the foreseeable future".
I expect the Switch 1 to get more games (Hades 2, Shadow Labyrinth, Rhythm Heaven Groove, Tomodaichi Life Living the Dream, etc.) so the Switch 1 people will not be completely left in the dark.
Re: Switch 2 Fares Well Against Xbox Series S In Street Fighter 6 Comparison
@acmiguens I think it’s more Series S will help Switch 2 get more games than the other way around mainly because of Microsoft’s parity clause (where every Series X game has to work on Series S). Not only that but the Switch 2 is likely to sell decently well and it will also be a big hit in Japan most likely (it’s cheaper in Japan).
Besides developers can always use the “not enough player base on Xbox” card when it comes to 3rd party games.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Throws Shade At Switch 2, Says It's A 'Hard Pass'
Will I get Switch 2 at launch? No. But will I get it eventually? Yeah I will.
Game price will be an issue but so far MK World is 80 while others are likely to be 70 at most (might be lower at 60 depending on the game). But Nintendo games are generally highly quality so.. yeah let’s wait and see.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@Dan1283 where did I say I am defending Nintendo? All I said is that “flexible” meaning the game price vary depending on them, some are 70, some are 60, one is 80, and some are lower? And I did say the price of MK World is a bit steep.
It’s also just a fact that despite the price, people will still buy it.
Re: Switch 2 Feature Reminds People Of The Disastrous Xbox One Launch
@HonestHick They're salty over the fact Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade hasn't been announced for Xbox yet while it got announced for Switch 2.
Re: Nintendo Just Broke Our Hearts With Today's Final Fantasy 7 Annoucement
@GamingFan4Lyf yup, I was waiting to see how Xbox fans react to this.
Re: Xbox Is Missing Out On FromSoftware's 'The Duskbloods' In 2026
Don't worry, PlayStation is also missing out on this.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
@ButterySmooth30FPS I think its time to accept that since inflation is a thing, prices will go up in time. So we should stop being surprised if game prices do go up tbh.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2's Crazy Game Prices Could Be Terrible News For Xbox Fans
Its worth noting that Nintendo is being more flexible on pricing. This game costs 80 dollars while Donkey Kong Banzana will be 70 dollars.
Still 80 dollars is a bit of a steep. Just makes me wonder how much GTA 6 will cost.
But regardless, people are still gonna be buying this.
Re: New Death Stranding Record Hints At Potential Of PS5 Ports On Xbox
Sony is more likely to put games on Switch/Switch 2 (mainly Japan Studio games) albeit indirectly. Clearly they don’t see Nintendo as competition and they’re even working together (Zelda movie), but Sony sees Microsoft as competition. I honestly don’t think Sony needs to put games on Xbox for a long time.
Re: Sony-Owned 'Patapon' Is Coming To PS5, Switch And PC, But No Sign Of Xbox
I really don't think Sony HAS to port games to Xbox while Xbox HAS to port games.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Petition Passes 130,000 Signatures, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
@dskatter exactly right my friend. If only more people can listen to wise statements like yours…
Re: Capcom's Monster Hunter Wilds Is Off To An Absolutely Flying Start On Xbox
Rise was a timed exclusive for one platform on day 1. Wilds launched on multiple platforms day 1. So ofc Wilds will sell better at launch than Rise.
Bit of an unfair comparison don't you think?
Re: Indiana Jones Set To Release For PS5 In April After Four Months Of Xbox Exclusivity
@x3King84 I’m not sure why Motorsport will be needed on PS5 if PS5 already has Gran Turismo. Besides I heard the new game isn’t as good.
Re: Hundreds Of Delisted Xbox 360 Games Now Have The Potential To Return On PC
@RadioHedgeFund wouldn’t Forza Horizon 1 be a problem regarding the licenses for the cars?
Re: Reporter Suggests Console Exclusives Will Soon Be 'Obsolete', Especially For Third-Party Devs
@StonyKL Sony MIGHT put some of their games on Switch 2 but I don't see them putting it on Xbox. Unless if its one of those 3rd party exclusives.
Re: Reporter Suggests Console Exclusives Will Soon Be 'Obsolete', Especially For Third-Party Devs
Honestly at this point, Xbox should just go full 3rd party and release everything on PC, PlayStation 5 and Nintendo as well as Xbox consoles .
Re: EA Says Need For Speed Is On Ice As Team Wraps Up Development On NFS Unbound
@Champalimo I wish that could be true but they were developed by Black Box iirc and the licensing for the music would be a hassle to go through.
Re: EA Says Need For Speed Is On Ice As Team Wraps Up Development On NFS Unbound
Imagine a Codemasters developed NFS. That would be interesting.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
@IOI Again a lot of people don't understand. FH5 going multiplatform to PlayStation 5 (and potentially the Nintendo Switch 2) is like giving away Gran Turismo, God of War, Mario, Zelda away to Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo respectively.
And as I said previously, if Xbox consoles are gonna continue to decline then 3rd party companies will start skipping it seeing that there is no value in it. They will instead go to PC, PS5 and Nintendo Switch 2.
PlayStation and Nintendo have no reason to put games on Xbox when their hardware is doing well. PlayStation's main issue is that their games cost way too much money to make so I think PlayStation porting games to PC day 1 will eventually happen down the line. Nintendo is doing its own thing and are successful in their own way and won't go multiplatform. Multiplatform will actually kill Nintendo.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Officially Announced For PS5, Drifts Over In Spring 2025
@NintendoByNature Its not a matter whether Halo or Gears of War will go multiplatform or not, its WHEN will it happen now.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Officially Announced For PS5, Drifts Over In Spring 2025
@Fiendish-Beaver you are absolutely correct. Baffles me how a lot of people don’t quite understand this. I would also like to mention that 3rd party for Xbox will dwindle if more Xbox players jump ship to PlayStation or PC which lead to lower player base on Xbox consoles.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Officially Announced For PS5, Drifts Over In Spring 2025
An Xbox staple on PS. I expect this game to come to Switch 2 as well. Now you may say you don’t care about exclusivity but do exclusives sell consoles? Yes. So if you give away your exclusives, would more people buy your console or not? And if the console doesn’t sell well, you’re at risk of losing 3rd party support. So if 3rd party games start skipping Xbox, don’t be surprised.
Re: Talking Point: A Year Later, What Do You Think Of Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League?
Forza Horizon 5 coming to PS5.
So, it has finally begun...
Re: Xbox Has 'Right Approach' To Exclusives & PlayStation May Follow, Suggests Ori Dev
@Westernwolf4 also Freedom Wars Remastered. That one was published by Sony as well.
Re: Xbox Has 'Right Approach' To Exclusives & PlayStation May Follow, Suggests Ori Dev
@Westernwolf4 tbh we would probably see Sony’s first party games on Switch 2 before Xbox lmao.
Re: Xbox Has 'Right Approach' To Exclusives & PlayStation May Follow, Suggests Ori Dev
As long as Sony continues to go ahead with the PlayStation which sells more in hardware than Xbox, I don’t see them needing or having to port any of their 1st party games for a long time. Perhaps they’ll port more to PC is more likely but staggered enough to where it won’t hurt hardware sales.
Re: Xbox Will Continue To Ship More Games On PlayStation And Nintendo
@IOI incredibly well said.
Re: Talking Point: Will Microsoft Fully Reveal Its Next-Gen Xbox This Year?
@IOI so true.
Re: Talking Point: What Is Xbox Going To Do With Halo In 2025?
@Utena-mobile see some people here don't quite understand. The reason why I said Xbox is gonna be even far worse off if they port Halo to Switch 2 and PS5 is because this is the game that made Xbox what Xbox is. Giving Halo to PlayStation and Nintendo is the equivalent of giving away God of War and Mario to competing platforms.
Re: Talking Point: What Is Xbox Going To Do With Halo In 2025?
@Millionski Possibly. But who knows at this point.
Re: Talking Point: What Is Xbox Going To Do With Halo In 2025?
They're gonna port Halo MCC to PS5 and Switch 2.
And the moment it does that, it will be officially done for Xbox.
Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Two More Xbox Games Possibly Going Multiplatform In 2025
@PsBoxSwitchOwner He predicted Persona 5 Royal, P4G, and P3P will come to Nintendo Switch and well... they have.
He is usually reliable but lets just wait and see.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales Down Almost 30% In The US Compared To 2023
@MrMagic yeah Xbox is cooked for in the coming years.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
At this point, just leave the console market, Xbox and go third party like Sega.
Re: Capcom Is Officially Working On A Sequel To 2006's Okami
@Balaam_ the HD version came out on Xbox One
Re: Xbox Boss Says Everything Is On The Table When It Comes To PS5 Ports
Essentially that means Halo, Forza may be on the PS5 and the next Nintendo console.
Yeah, not good
Re: Reaction: Red Dead Redemption Definitely Deserves A 60FPS Update On Xbox
@kuu_nousee except with Nintendo, it’s mostly because of a hardware issue while with Xbox, it’s more of a player base thing.
But companies will find some way to get their presence on Switch since of the high install numbers on Switch, they’re not gonna outright ignore it.
Re: Palworld Dev Pocketpair Responds To Nintendo Lawsuit
@Dm9982 oh I know they’re not monopolizing the genre. It’s just that some comments here and in NL think that way despite most of us knowing it isn’t. So I just pointed that out here.
If Palworld is indeed using this patents, then they had it coming.
Re: Palworld Dev Pocketpair Responds To Nintendo Lawsuit
@Savage_Joe a lot of misinformation has happened because a lot of people believe it is copyright and think Nintendo is monopolizing an entire genre. When that’s not the case (SMT, MH Stories and such exist).
And supposedly, this patent was filed in May of this year and approved in August or September this year IN THE US. It MIGHT be that this supposed patent was approved earlier in Japan around somewhere in 2021.And this case will most likely be using the Japanese patents.
We are not sure if this is the parent in question. Nintendo mentioned multiple patent infringements. I heard another theory that Palworld was using one of Nintendo’s patents that they patented for BOTW/TOTK.
I think more or less the way THEY CODED THIS might be the reason why Nintendo found them. If they coded the same mechanic, but used slightly different code then this lawsuit wouldn’t happen. If they used the exact same code, then it will be troublesome.
Oh and this will likely take 5 years to be resolved unless they settle it out of court.
Re: Nintendo And The Pokémon Company File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
@shoeses considering the time they took, it looks they may have found something really damning.
Re: Nintendo And The Pokémon Company File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/09/palworld-developer-responds-to-nintendo-lawsuit
So Palworld has responded to this and they said they are "unaware" of the specific patents they have been accused of infringing upon on. I will also point that a lot of people have actually tagged TPC and Nintendo about this game earlier as well. AND FOR THE LAST TIME, this is a PATENT infringement not a COPYRIGHT. PLEASE read the article more carefully.
"ensure that indie game developers are not hindered or discouraged from pursuing their creative ideas". I am sorry but didn't your own CEO say he doesn't have a creative vision??? And not only that but doesn't one of your own games literally seems to be 1:1 copy of HOLLOW KNIGHT?
If it was copyright, why hasn't Nintendo gone after Yo Kai or Monster Hunter Stories, or SMT/Persona??? They are not claiming to own an entire genre. There is a bunch of monster collecting games on the Switch. Now I am not sure who will win here, but. BUT IF PALWORLD has been using Nintendo/TPC , then they had it coming.
And also seriously. A lot of these people have been sending death threats to Nintendo and TPC. Grow up. You are no better than Nintendo. You're just as bad. Or in fact, WORSE.
Re: Nintendo And The Pokémon Company File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
@NEStalgia If you want to know more about this patent thing, you should go to the NintendoLife article on this. One user has posted a lot of information that is actually quite interesting.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/09/nintendo-and-pokemon-file-lawsuit-against-palworld-developer-pocketpair
Re: Nintendo And The Pokémon Company File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
@shoeses I would think they have found something incriminating considering they took a nice long while.
Re: Nintendo And The Pokémon Company File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
@NEStalgia so according to some people in NintendoLife, there are 3 patents Nintendo has regarding Pokemon (20240100432, US11782898B2 and US11782898B2). So these patents deal with software, coding techniques, Data base infrastructure. So its not copyright that TPC is going for but patent. If Palworld is using those patents, then it is a big deal.
I would like to thank @HeadPirate for this information.
Re: Nintendo And The Pokémon Company File Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
@acmiguens ME love popcorn