MrList

@cardcrusher29

basically the only reason i bought one. gutted when it ended.

original xbox.
few reasons. at the time i was very into dead or alive and 3 was exclusive, heard how halo was suposed to be great and that it was the most powereful console.
ps2 broke and decided to get a gamecube and an xbox instead of a replacement.
360 was a no brainer. awesome times.
xbox one , wtf were they thinking, i left.
series x bought for BC and bethesda exclusives.

what even is xbox anymore?

original exclusives all gone now just the publisher of what used to be all the big 3rd party games.
just EA or Ubisoft now basically.

beyond insane. closing the dev of one of last years most highly acclaimed and accoladed games makes no sense. they don't belong in the video game business.
end of discussion.

i don't mind watching the show but pretty much nothing about it is very 'halo' ,i feel like it is a different show using a halo cosmetic skin.
would like a big budget film now that is actually just like halo game.

lol, straight up lying right there

half sad in a selfish way, that such a niche game can be their most successful without any physical release at all really is the death knell for my disc based gaming.

but good on them, rare that delevopers like them manage to stay afloat and original these days.

new vegas definitive edition is easily one of the greatest games of all time.

i really didn't find that type of quest game worked aswell with lots of mini 'open world' maps as opposed to one big one.
if they are going with lots of smaller 'zones' it works better with a fable/mass effect style map/gameplay area imho

digital is a monopoly ,no competition for your custom

another point why i don't want to go all digital, all the games i have on that list i bought cheaper and a while ago (and on ps5 which is generally more expensive than xbox physical) and practically all the others i have seen cheaper physical aswell.

Possession is nine-tenths of the law,
i like having something i have paid for and having some measure of 'right' to go with it.

mostly annoyed that i feel like i have been lied to.
comments that your game discs aren't going away and the series x launching with a disc drive , then after you have bought one they change the playing field/rules of the game.

lift to wake with pet cats would be a disaster lol

i don't these are running on series x tbh. more likely pc

you'd think games as old as this one be ripe for full raytracing on the new graphics mode but they are using baked.

As soon as they possibly could they would stop. they are aiming to be a streaming games service, when (if) the tech is good enough and when (if) they convince enough younsters (that don't know any better) to play games that way then they will have finished their mission in the gaming space.

how is ps4 pro beating series s?

this list has highlighted some of the things that piss me of with xbox because they don't provide a choice,

grounded and hi-fi rush are both games i would buy and play if they had physical releases.

i enjoyed vermitide 2 solo offline and was hoping to have a go with Warhammer 40,000: Darktide but you need XBOXgold/live to use the game at all.

they want you to be subscribed to these services but not providing the options to play offline or buy discs makes it feel like blackmail and just sours the brand for me.

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i don't play driving games so the two big forzas don't mean anything for me, played ghost wire on ps5.
haven't tried redfall yet but looks pretty naff/not great/my type

hifi rush looks great but i don't do digital or game pass and i am super annoyed they never released it physical for me to get.

starfield i enjoyed but not as much as previous elderscrolls or fallouts.

@GamingFan4Lyf
a lot of the things you put there are things i like about my series x aswell to be fair.

@GamingFan4Lyf
just curious why you chose the xbox as the third party machine?
do you prefer their online play?
even though it is a more powerful machine nearly every 3rd party game runs worse on the xbox, i am surprised by how few games have compelled me to buy the xbox version because they run the best on that hardware.
disclaimer i prefer to use my ps5 for my trophy list as my 3rd party games machine as because it works better 9 times out of ten.

as a very old school gamer i find lots of things wrong with the xbox approach.
i really quite like the series x as hardware nothing not to like about the actual console it's self but it is all the way microsoft is hardsell all the time, it is their way or the highway.

in basic terms my ps still feels like a gamesconsole, i can buy a game and play it , i don't need to engage with sony at all.

i feel sonys strategy is if we make the best games they will make money and microsofts strategy is how can we best use games to make money.

only got it in blackfriday sale so i'm still playing it and my save counter has just passed 3 days.
i'm approaching the point when i will be thinking about diving into the final mission soon.

i just assumed my series x was just saving my games on my hard drive and reading them from there.

so what is it actually doing?

between it being too similar to fallout and ES and the disjointed gameplay areas it is just a good but not great game for me.
i have really started to enjoy it now but the first 20 hours or so was work to get into in a way the other 2 weren't and there are lots of complexeties with being between planets and places that needed lots of better quality of life solutions.
eg
make ships parts available from other sellers after you find them, building a ship from scratch, easier resource pooling , making the make map easier to navigate etc.. etc.. etc..

i don't know what or how but i feel their next game needs to be somehow 'more' than just the same as the formula has been.
somehow elevated to the next level.more complex and interactive background systems like ai (not like computer learning ai just game ai) and having a real effect on things maybe.

given that redfall was suggested to be getting that and it was never heard of again i am taking this with big chunks of salt.
not too interested in the gameplay of this one but if they add offline mode will get it in a sale.

well xbox exclusive means no disc release so i will wait and see if it comes out later on ps5 like cuphead did.

when there was a bit of bad PR in pre-release when it became apparent this was always online they made some comments about making single player off line and there has never been any mention of it ever again.
guessing that was just bolloxs

been waiting for this, not just to have the next gen verion on a disc but also to have everything included before i start to play.

games like this are so much better to play after all the stuff has been added ,updated and fixed.
i can' t go back to a game after i finished it a year ago when some new dlc comes out.

the comedy being these games will still have day1 patches lol

@JayJ you can tell from peoples attitudes and comments how short sighted and personally oriented their opinions about digital being better than physical are.

if you haven't bought the game already you can never get this game ever in the future when it is delisted.
a kid today may grow up, get into games, buy an old second hand ps5 or seriesx and really want to try out marvels avengers.
they will be able to track down a second hand copy and play it because it came out physical.
in your world they will have to track down one of you guys , get you to remember your decades old accounts, hope that servers for those ancient machines are still up and move in with you to play it.
granted lots of games are not released in a good enough state physically , mostly the big AAA games but lots of games still are. smaller games normally wait to be finished to release on disc and 'complele' editions still get released.
microsoft are the worst for their disc releases with zero effort to include a game on the disc, as you say, just releasing a disc as a download key, basically.

another reason to dislike the all digital future. this game will be available on disc for -(practically)- ever.

well slightly key would be if they stop selling the x with a disc drive, which i suspect they will so yes death of physical is here.
really not good .

the best thing about sony's first party games is that they give a 40fps mode (thanks to insomniac leading the way) shame xbox aren't looking into similar things.

i should imagine one of the numerous re-releases of starfield will be multiplatform because it would make more money when the need to be an exclusive is long past.

if this was still multiplatform there would be no way it would have launched in such a good state but watching the digital foundry vid i kind wished i could play on my ps5 because the load times are really quite long and often.

not needing to develope for ps5 would have streamlined development no doubt, would have prefered to play this game on ps5 if i had the choice but should still be great to play it on an xbox.

even though they annoyed me by not releasing it physically i much prefer a shadow drop like hi fi rush to a game anounced last gen , expected to be this gen and ending up a next gen release like es6.

kind of but not really. i bought a wiiu just to play breath of wild and i bought a switch just to play tears of the kingdom.
i bought my og xbox for dead or alive 3 but also because of the other games like jet set radio future and halo.
360 was my default console buy that gen. dodged xbox one.
seriesx was because of the zenimax buy out , elderscrolls 6 and starfield i wanted and backwards compatabilty sold it to me.
realising ES6 won't be coming out on this console most likely now if it wasn't for BC i would be disppointed. so i don't think starfield would have been enough on it's own.

highly unlikely i would have got a series x without the backwards compatability ,it's basically what it is for in my house atm so yes it was good , just a shame not more of 360 games or more with res boost.

@Matthewnh
funny i was thinking the way to make it fresh would be a different era lol

i really loved hogwarts legacy but there was soooooo much quality of life stuff and testing that needed to be done. it was oviously rushed out to save money, considering how succesful it became that was unforgivable but i can't imagine what kind of octopus fingered yes men they had as play-testers , they need some older gamers in there to tell them what is a pain and what should be better.
just all the time i was like: ' just this little thing here would make it so much simpler and more fun to play'etc..

i would hope they could really go to town with a sequel now all the building blocks are set down but i don't know how they could make a sequel as fun as the discovery and learning your way around was a massive part of what i loved about it.

another game that is much easier to get cheaper physically thus making me hate the hastening demise of the medium and the monopolistic nature of digital storefronts.

i got it for ps5 for £35 about a month ago.

total nonsense answer from the dev.
nintendo release physicals versions later than digital versions all the time, it is acceptable to do that.
you could just wait until it was finished before you put it on the disc.
this explaination is reverse engineered after they decided on going digital only.
farce.

doesn't sound great, like one game per new console from AAA devs.

you want to believe the game guys when they say stuff like this but these days i wait and see for myself at launch.

considering how quickly this is coming after their other games that isn't so much a surprise but i hope it is more one map than lots of little maps still.

looks far too polished for one of their games lol, makes me suspicious of what they might be hiding.

looks amazing on the super high end pc they were demoing it on but i wanted xbox footage.

if it works mostly fine and it is like it seems like it will be it will be unfathamomably epic and a miracle of game development.
cautiously optomistic

the only game i am proper hype for from the presentation is dragons dogma 2 and it isn't an exclusive so not great as a ps showcase.
spiderman 2 looks good but i still haven't played miles morales game yet.