Not really. Obsidian has burned any goodwill they had with some seriously lackluster releases. And bled off a significant amount of their good talent a couple years back.
It is pretty obvious when Microsoft got fed up with Spencer doing things like this and tightened the leash. Happened shortly before the backwards compatability program cancelation announcement.
@AverageGamer Yes they are. Indie games have a much larger presence on Steam than cobsoles put together. As a matter of fact, that's the direction most indie devs went once Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom killed XDA, dev, and others services they had. Then they folded indie games into general releases instead of having their own category.
You're as likely to see some no name indie game on the front page as you are AAA.
But if you're doing generic RPG maker crap, then yea, you're gonna have a hard time.
They don't even have to pay for advertising either if they release a substantial enough game as it will put put on the front page simply from being organically popular.
Discs vanishing from PC is why I moved to console.
The vanishing from console is one of the reasons I went back to PC games.
With PC I'm not committing to a walled garden with subscription fees. I don't have to beg to do things with my games like install mods, use different cotbeollwrs, or even VR.
Consoles have essentially outlived their usefulness aside from Nintendo. Since they actually keep things on their platform.
That's fine. I've already jumped back to PC where my current build will likely outperform the next two generations.
And my wife gave gave up on Xbox because of the abysmal support and releases since most of the things she likes skips Xbox, or she already played a year or more ahead of the Xbox release, on a different platform.
@fatpunkslim
Microsoft owns Crash and Spyro.
Nothing else you listed is owned by Sony.
None of Sony's first party games, or 2nd party like Helldivers, are coming to Xbox.
Needs a gyro. Xbox is the only controller still stuck in the 90s without it. Even my TV remote has one. 😂
@RiverGenie Shame about the experience. Seems like you may have some nerve issues in your hands. I leave haptics on everything. My headphones, VR controllers, TV remote, Playstation controller, Nintendo controller, Steam controller, etc.
Can't say I've had a similar experience. If anything the finely tuned motors are less stressful on the hands due to less unbalanced mass being flung around regularly.
@swedetrap On the flip side Steam is the only platform for me on PC. It is the only place you get proper support on games with dev interaction via the forums.
Only platform with proper VR support.
Only platform outside of GOG that provides good sales.
Only platform that supports native modding via stems workshop.
Only platform with no questions asked refunds.
There are countless other reasons I can list. But if you want you PC to be nothing more than essentially a console, with a smaller library, I can see why the Microsoft store would be appealing.
I'd rather see the user score top 10 and worst 10.
EDIT:
Here ya go, lowest score listed first.
1. Concord
2. Olympics Go! Paris 2024
3. Dustborn
4. Unknown 9: Awakening
5. The Crush House
6. Little Strays
7. Utopia City
8. Star Wars Battlefront: Classic Collection
9. EA Sports FC 25
10. Capes
@JokerBoy322 I hear that! I've always kept a PC, but went back to it being my main thing again back when I picked up a VR treadmill. Just so much easier not jumping around.
Personally the only reason I play any current Microsoft games is because of Gamepass. Most of their 1st parties they've released since Gamepass dropped have been bullets dodged.
When my Gamepass expires I simply won't play any more of their games unless they're on steeeeeeep discount on Steam.
Would be strange if he put Xbox in a potion he wasn't comfortable with. Especially if he's gonna make a public comment.
Nadella has repeatedly made it clear he doesn't like hardware going all the way back to Windows Phone. Should be no surprise the direction Xbox is going.
@Fiendish-Beaver let's not forget about pricing. Think the newest PS5's revision price is goofy?
Just wait until they don't have any competition.
@ZYDIO I still have my 1520.
Had the 920 but man that was dookie. And sure enough, happened when Microsoft started meddling their team too much.
@Fiendish-Beaver
About the same for me. I only have Gamepass because I have a couple years stacked up because it was cheap as dirt. I see no reason to re-up once it expires though.
@Cakefish Sadly all you're gonna get close to that are your play anywhere games.
Not a publisher in hell is gonna agree to give Microsoft PC keys for each Xbox games they sold with a PC equivalent. Nor is Microsoft gonna foot it given their borderline contempt for their own audience
I will be impressed if this isn't a Sony exclusive since they finally came out and said they were interested in buying Kadokawa instead of just rumors.
Should have had it at launch. 🤷 I'll pick it up sometime after the servers go offline think they proved offline does indeed work. Just glad it was easy to refund.
Maybe they can get back to making proper games now because, Arkham Shadow, a VR game, is 100x the game Suicide Squad is.
Fantastic game made only better by patches. And it is really nice they're listening to feedback and already providing requested QoL features to the game.
Definitely punching for my GOTY this year.
@PurvisP 30 hours myself and the only bug was someone getting stuck in a door pre patch. And a gun's physics glitching and launching it to the moon.
@StyleT are you using the sound meter and using things like storms etc for additional sound cover? For example, a silenced weapon will still alert people unless you have some decent background noise. And if you're using your light at all, the beacons are lit for all to see. Also some mutants hunt by smell, so the weird flower helps on these.
For example: I just went through and dropped half of Varaan's base before alerting anyone. And that was my own stupid mistake.
@Lucylu1983 @Reallynow33
Looks like it is out now. I downloaded it a couple minutes ago.
@oopsiezz
I can't agree. 30 hours in and biggest bug I ran into was someone getting stuck in a door.
Player numbers also indicate the population is healthy, especially for a single player game. So the anecdote of seeing people saying they're uninstalling doesn't carry much weight. Especially when you see such comments about the biggest releases all the time.
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Re: Talking Point: Are You Hoping For Another 'Shadow Drop' At Xbox Developer Direct 2025?
Last shadow drop they closed down the developer didn't they?
Re: Microsoft's 'VP Of Next-Gen' Seems To Think That Xbox Console Hardware Isn't Under Threat
Not much faith in that given that nobody thought Xbox was at threat when it was almost shut down in 2021 by Nadella.
Though at the same time, I reckon if everything is an Xbox, it wouldn't be at threat.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Reportedly Chose Buying Studios Over 'Winding Down' Xbox In 2021
Nadella has never been a fan of hardware and never will be. When he sees an opportunity to gut it, he does.
Re: 'Rewards Hunter' Announces Retirement Following Xbox Rewards Overhaul
@ChickenPossible
Wish you all the best!
And thank you for all the hard work!
Re: Soapbox: With Xbox Games Now On PS5, Microsoft Needs To Ditch Forced PC Crossplay
Is it really cross play when everything is an Xbox?
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In February 2025 So Far
Not really. Obsidian has burned any goodwill they had with some seriously lackluster releases. And bled off a significant amount of their good talent a couple years back.
Re: Talking Point: Will 1 Vs. 100 Ever Make A Comeback On Xbox?
"but what happened?!"
Microsoft's new direction happened.
It is pretty obvious when Microsoft got fed up with Spencer doing things like this and tightened the leash. Happened shortly before the backwards compatability program cancelation announcement.
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy 7 Remake & Rebirth Supposedly 'Confirmed' For Xbox In 2025 / 2026
@fatpunkslim Again, 1st and 2nd party games are not comparable to 3rd party games.
No games owned by Sony are coming to Xbox.
Games owned by Microsoft are going to Playstation.
Simple as that.
Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Two More Xbox Games Possibly Going Multiplatform In 2025
At this point I feel like you could say this about all Microsoft exclusives and still come out right. Eventually.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
More like it was pushed back because of theGhosts of Yotei. And to give the retooled the ad campaign time to kick in.
Re: Cancelled Transformers Game Footage Leaks, And It Actually Looks Pretty Good
Was so excited for this after the original announcement.
But of course this gets canceled while other slop continues to release.
Re: Halo Veteran's New Studio Backed By NetEase Halts Work On Current Title
@AverageGamer Yes they are. Indie games have a much larger presence on Steam than cobsoles put together. As a matter of fact, that's the direction most indie devs went once Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom killed XDA, dev, and others services they had. Then they folded indie games into general releases instead of having their own category.
You're as likely to see some no name indie game on the front page as you are AAA.
But if you're doing generic RPG maker crap, then yea, you're gonna have a hard time.
They don't even have to pay for advertising either if they release a substantial enough game as it will put put on the front page simply from being organically popular.
How many other platforms can you say do the same?
Re: Physical Game Sales 'Collapsed' In The UK Last Year, Says New Report
@johnedwin1969 Funnily enough you can do that on consoles too. Pretty much every console ever.
I fail to see the relevance of the minority of people on all platforms, to this conversation, though.
Re: Physical Game Sales 'Collapsed' In The UK Last Year, Says New Report
Discs vanishing from PC is why I moved to console.
The vanishing from console is one of the reasons I went back to PC games.
With PC I'm not committing to a walled garden with subscription fees. I don't have to beg to do things with my games like install mods, use different cotbeollwrs, or even VR.
Consoles have essentially outlived their usefulness aside from Nintendo. Since they actually keep things on their platform.
Re: Halo Veteran's New Studio Backed By NetEase Halts Work On Current Title
Things like this are why, atleast in the AAA space, all we get are slop sequels.
Thakfully Steam is excellent at giving small developers a place to release their games while still getting visibility.
Re: Next Xbox Console: Everything We Know So Far About Microsoft's Next-Gen System
@fatpunkslim An exclusive is not an exclusive.
That's why people though Helldivers was coming to Xbox because they didn't understand the concept of first and second party games.
Only 3rd party will ever drop on Xbox.
Re: Next Xbox Console: Everything We Know So Far About Microsoft's Next-Gen System
That's fine. I've already jumped back to PC where my current build will likely outperform the next two generations.
And my wife gave gave up on Xbox because of the abysmal support and releases since most of the things she likes skips Xbox, or she already played a year or more ahead of the Xbox release, on a different platform.
@fatpunkslim
Microsoft owns Crash and Spyro.
Nothing else you listed is owned by Sony.
None of Sony's first party games, or 2nd party like Helldivers, are coming to Xbox.
Re: Microsoft Is Expanding Xbox Cloud Gaming To LG Smart TVs In 2025
@fatpunkslim Is it? Does that mean XCloud isn't evolving or is stagnant?
Because the experience is almost identical to when I was in the alpha tests, what, 6-7 years ago now?
Re: Rumour: Microsoft's Next-Gen Console Dubbed 'Xbox Prime' Is Possibly Coming In 2026
Well that's just prime.
Re: GTA 6 'Likely' To Make More Than $1 Billion Before It Launches In 2025, Say Analysts
Well that's gross.
Re: Microsoft Rejected Halo & DOOM Crossover For 'Secret Level' Episode, Say Creators
@Elbow Irony being that if this episode had been made, it would have likely been better received than the whole of Paramount's Halo.
Re: Xbox Fans Think Back To Halo Infinite Feature Finally Made Famous In 2024
That's what happens when you alienate your audience like Halo has.
People generally stop caring about it.
Re: Microsoft Rejected Halo & DOOM Crossover For 'Secret Level' Episode, Say Creators
Microsoft has absolutely no idea what fans want.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Saga Just Got A Whole Lot More Confusing
So one more confirmation that Microsoft has been lying, repeatedly.
I'm tired boss.
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
Amazing game start to finish.
First game that made me 100% in a long while.
Can't wait for the DLC. It is definitely my GOTY for 2024.
Re: Xbox Takes 'Runner-Up' Spot For IGN's Game Of The Year 2024 Award
@Sol4ris To be fair, at least one of the bajillion publications IGN owns, Pure Xbox and Eurogamer being some of them, was bound to give it GOTY.
Game was fantastic start to finish. First game I 100% in a whiiiiiiiile. Hyped for the DLC.
Re: Next-Gen Xbox Controller Possibly Uncovered In New Microsoft Patent
Needs a gyro. Xbox is the only controller still stuck in the 90s without it. Even my TV remote has one. 😂
@RiverGenie Shame about the experience. Seems like you may have some nerve issues in your hands. I leave haptics on everything. My headphones, VR controllers, TV remote, Playstation controller, Nintendo controller, Steam controller, etc.
Can't say I've had a similar experience. If anything the finely tuned motors are less stressful on the hands due to less unbalanced mass being flung around regularly.
Re: Xbox Dominated The US Gaming Charts In Indiana Jones' Launch Week
@swedetrap On the flip side Steam is the only platform for me on PC. It is the only place you get proper support on games with dev interaction via the forums.
Only platform with proper VR support.
Only platform outside of GOG that provides good sales.
Only platform that supports native modding via stems workshop.
Only platform with no questions asked refunds.
There are countless other reasons I can list. But if you want you PC to be nothing more than essentially a console, with a smaller library, I can see why the Microsoft store would be appealing.
Re: Metacritic Reveals The 10 Worst-Rated Video Games Of 2024
@Lurkes Those are the only score that matter TBH.
I'd rather see the user score top 10 and worst 10.
EDIT:
Here ya go, lowest score listed first.
1. Concord
2. Olympics Go! Paris 2024
3. Dustborn
4. Unknown 9: Awakening
5. The Crush House
6. Little Strays
7. Utopia City
8. Star Wars Battlefront: Classic Collection
9. EA Sports FC 25
10. Capes
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In January 2025
As much as I love Carrion, it still feels kinda gross seeing games leave Gamepass then come back.
@FatGuyInLilCoat they're solid okays if you need something to turn you brain off for a few.
Re: SEGA Is Reportedly Considering Its Own Gaming Subscription Service
Subscriptions are getting outta hand.
It is like everyone and their mom launching a streaming service after Netflix proved it successful.
No thanks.
Re: Talking Point: If Developer Direct Returns, Xbox Could Have A Killer 2025 Lineup
@JokerBoy322 I hear that! I've always kept a PC, but went back to it being my main thing again back when I picked up a VR treadmill. Just so much easier not jumping around.
Re: Talking Point: If Developer Direct Returns, Xbox Could Have A Killer 2025 Lineup
@Prestige-worldwide
Personally the only reason I play any current Microsoft games is because of Gamepass. Most of their 1st parties they've released since Gamepass dropped have been bullets dodged.
When my Gamepass expires I simply won't play any more of their games unless they're on steeeeeeep discount on Steam.
Re: Talking Point: If Developer Direct Returns, Xbox Could Have A Killer 2025 Lineup
@JokerBoy322 Don't even need a PS5 either when Sony is putting their games on PC.
All ya need is a Switch and PC at this point.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle 'Glitch' Shows How The Game Would Look In Third-Person
I'd prefer the game never go to third person at all TBH. Even in platforming.
Re: Microsoft Boss Highlights Why He's Feeling 'Very, Very Good' About Xbox Right Now
Would be strange if he put Xbox in a potion he wasn't comfortable with. Especially if he's gonna make a public comment.
Nadella has repeatedly made it clear he doesn't like hardware going all the way back to Windows Phone. Should be no surprise the direction Xbox is going.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says That Microsoft 'Won't Have Exclusives Going Forward'
@Cakefish Agreed.
Quite literally the only reason I buy a console so exclusives.
If there are no exclusives, why would I waste money on the hardware?
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
@Fiendish-Beaver let's not forget about pricing. Think the newest PS5's revision price is goofy?
Just wait until they don't have any competition.
@ZYDIO I still have my 1520.
Had the 920 but man that was dookie. And sure enough, happened when Microsoft started meddling their team too much.
@Fiendish-Beaver
About the same for me. I only have Gamepass because I have a couple years stacked up because it was cheap as dirt. I see no reason to re-up once it expires though.
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
@Cakefish Sadly all you're gonna get close to that are your play anywhere games.
Not a publisher in hell is gonna agree to give Microsoft PC keys for each Xbox games they sold with a PC equivalent. Nor is Microsoft gonna foot it given their borderline contempt for their own audience
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Game Awards 2024?
Another show of Geoff Keighley continuing to remind us what is wrong with video game industry personalities.
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
Good thing it'll be on Gamepass.
Exclusives are the only games I buy on consoles. And Microsoft doesn't seem too keen on those anymore.
More money for the others guys I guess.
Re: Elden Ring Nightreign Brings Its Co-Op Adventure To Xbox In 2025
I will be impressed if this isn't a Sony exclusive since they finally came out and said they were interested in buying Kadokawa instead of just rumors.
Re: CD Projekt RED Officially Unveils 'The Witcher 4' With Lengthy Cinematic
Sounding like Cyberpunk all over again.....they were just smart enough to not announce it for current gen this time.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Borderlands 4 Gameplay Ahead Of 2025 Xbox Release
Is it gonna be better than 3? Because that one was trash.
Re: Six Games Nominated For Xbox GOTY At The IGN Awards 2024
Nice to see Stalker 2 getting some recognition. It is punching for my GOTY.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Offline Mode Arrives Alongside Deep Discount On Xbox
Should have had it at launch. 🤷 I'll pick it up sometime after the servers go offline think they proved offline does indeed work. Just glad it was easy to refund.
Maybe they can get back to making proper games now because, Arkham Shadow, a VR game, is 100x the game Suicide Squad is.
Re: Video: Indiana Jones Comparison Shows Difference Between Xbox Series X And S Versions
@Bigmanfan Because sub 1080p resolutions with low settings hasn't been acceptable for a while now.
Re: Stalker 2 Receives Another Xbox Update As Players Share Their Latest Impressions
Fantastic game made only better by patches. And it is really nice they're listening to feedback and already providing requested QoL features to the game.
Definitely punching for my GOTY this year.
@PurvisP 30 hours myself and the only bug was someone getting stuck in a door pre patch. And a gun's physics glitching and launching it to the moon.
@StyleT are you using the sound meter and using things like storms etc for additional sound cover? For example, a silenced weapon will still alert people unless you have some decent background noise. And if you're using your light at all, the beacons are lit for all to see. Also some mutants hunt by smell, so the weird flower helps on these.
For example: I just went through and dropped half of Varaan's base before alerting anyone. And that was my own stupid mistake.
Re: Shenmue 3 Fans Ask Xbox Players To 'Make Some Noise' After ININ Acquires Publishing Rights
If you have to "make noise" to get something on your platform, seems like something is wrong.
Re: Stalker 2 Update 1.01 Hits Xbox Today, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Looks like it is out now on my Series X.
Just downloaded it. 12.69GB.
@Lucylu1983 @Reallynow33
Looks like it is out now. I downloaded it a couple minutes ago.
@oopsiezz
I can't agree. 30 hours in and biggest bug I ran into was someone getting stuck in a door.
Player numbers also indicate the population is healthy, especially for a single player game. So the anecdote of seeing people saying they're uninstalling doesn't carry much weight. Especially when you see such comments about the biggest releases all the time.