The problem isn't that these games are too long now, it's that most of the length is from meaningless bloat just to say 'look how long our game is!' Just another reason Indies & AA games are better than most AAA outings now.
@armondo36 "every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol", yeah a decade ago or longer. I don't think you understand what the word 'abandoned' means. And unlike Blue Dragon there's no excuse with Sony since they own all the rights for those abandoned IPs.
@armondo36 Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Jax 'n Daxter, Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, Infamous, Resistance, Killzone... it sure is great to be able to play these long standing games that have PS5 entries.
@ValentineMeikin Yeah I'm sure they won't do exactly what they did with having Xbox exclusives come to PC. You know, what also started as 'a handful of carefully selected' games to literally everything in a few years.
Finally tried Infinite and put it down after 5 or so games. Felt more like some eSport FPS with some Halo things thrown in rather than Halo. Can't even take comfort in the MCC since like any older multiplayer game, the majority of people only play certain Game Modes.
Hard to say the Backwards Compatibility when that's long been over and I have a perfectly functional 360. I guess... the controller? I'll always like it more than the PS one, but it's effectively been the same controller for almost 2 decades so, that feels like a Mr. Fantastic stretch for something good.
@BacklogBrad It's not that much of a grind if you approach it casually. Doing Co-op VS AI 20-30 minutes a day got me the entire cast and a ton of extra stuff over time. Just gotta mess around in the Lab a bit to see who you prefer in advance and spend your Gold smartly. At the very least I'd claim it on the chance that when it permanently goes offline, you might still be able to do the Lab & Local Play w/ everything unlocked like they did when the Beta ended.
@xanderten50 They were silent on it maybe for a week after it originally going offline, but yeah, all the characters, Perks, Skins, etc. you've unlocked or bought from the Open Beta are still yours.
They need to pull a Cyberpunk and massively update & change the game alongside a good sized DLC. I... do not have faith Bethesda can do such a thing, but would love to be wrong.
360-PS3-Wii Gen stands out a lot now, because it was the last time you saw a ton of originality in games, and Wii excluded a lot of those 360 & PS3 were a massive graphically jump from PS2/GameCube/Xbox and still look good in 2024. Now half the XBO, Series, PS4, & PS5 libraries are just ports, remasters, & remakes of games from that Generation. It's why more people are interested in Indies & smaller game now.
@Lightning720 It really is difficult to imagine though. "New planets with new stories"? There's already hundreds of planets with nothing that just exist, and only maybe a dozen planets and or moons with something that could very, VERY charitably be considered a town. 'Fallout 4 in space' had amazing potential... and somehow a slice of post-apocalypse Boston has more, well, EVERYTHING than Starfield except empty space. More NPCs, more named NPCs, more settlements, more weapons, more armors, more weapon and armor mods, more things to build for your outposts, more enemy types, more Character Build options...
It's fine if you liked it but I'm sorry, when the majority of the moding community gives up on trying to fix and make a Bethesda game more fun, it's objectively bad at that point.
Don't care about the show; care about the Next-Gen update and rumored Edition w/ all the Creation Club stuff for Fallout 4. Would rather replay that than finish Starfield at this point.
They need good Perks like this more often, things offering actual content of some kind. As I said before, Skins & coins for a bunch of F2P games you might care about half of at best are not the right way to go, especially when they don't even pick the most popular ones.
The P3R Expansion Pass is an amazing Perk to give with GPU, Xbox really needs more stuff like that instead of Skins & coins for a dozen F2P games of which you might care about half at most.
@Utena-mobile Battle Passes were solely defined in Quality by the last Skin for the paid version, and that's only if you thought it was worth almost $10. Everything else in them weren't very interesting.
Wonder if this game fails after going full release if they'll do what they did for the hiatus and just let everything be free offline, or if that itself needs servers even in that state.
@Lup With a company like Capcom I can't really complain about Remakes and collections considering they're still putting out new games, and good new games at that.
Feel safe saying KI is being prepped for PS5. If not it's very coincidental they started testing Ranked Crossplay & giving it big updates around the same time Microsoft internally decided to make more exclusives Multiplat. Like how the old CoD servers magically were fixed the day the Activision merger got okay'd.
Gonna wait for a sale with this one. Shredder's Revenge was my first taste of a Beat 'Em Up, so with all the ones I missed before and own but need to play now, I'm good until then.
Even if the core gameplay's good, I don't think it'll feel very 'Fable' with how things are in Current Year. 100% gonna be a situation where people either love it or say it's Fable in name only. Just remember how many of us thought Redfall was gonna be amazing, and then we played it. Would be glad to be wrong but temper those expectations just in case.
I stopped using the Wishlist when I found out about sites that price track and don't count every game/DLC 10% off w/ Game Pass as a sale like the Wishlist does.
@Dusk_Actual My friends who follow everything DC and their friends pretty much only care about Harley as an accessory to The Joker. From what I can tell, most of the people who see Harley as a draw are the people on Twitter who don't buy or consume any media, which DC and Marvel both cater too for some reason.
@STX GameFreak's released a few multiplatform games. They're Second-Party devs to Nintendo and essentially any non-Pokemon games they make they're free to release on whatever they want.
@LX_FENIX This. The most we're seeing from either are games with expiring exclusivity deals or if it was only made for them without one, which in most cases would be up to the Third-Parties involved. Great example as of late is Atlus, releasing the Persona games on non-Sony systems and now releasing SMT V on something besides Switch.
@Savage_Joe Rare Replay was because Xbox bought Rare thinking they'd get Donkey Kong, TW101 was because Platinum self-Published the Remaster where as Nintendo Published the Wii U original, Crash and Spyro were only Published by Sony who never owned them, & Sony was told by MLB either it goes Multiplatform or stops being made. These are all very specific instances and very different from Sony or Nintendo saying, 'we don't need this to be exclusive anymore' like Microsoft's doing.
The problem isn't pronunciation, it's that the name doesn't tell you what it is. There's a reason Song of Nunu and Ruined King have 'A League of Legends Story' attached, so people know they're related to the thing they're based on. Unless they plan on turning this into a long standing series, the name fails at it's one purpose.
MLB was because they had no choice if Sony wanted it to continue and part of the deal with Bungie was they retain the right to choose what their games do and don't get made for. They clearly mean PC when they say 'multiplatform'. I don't see Nintendo or Sony sharing with Xbox outside of case-by-case choices by Third-Parties, like how Atlus just decided to start bringing the Persona games to other Platforms, and since they seem to be making good money off that choice, maybe more companies will follow. But I don't see it going farther than that.
@ThunderCracker Always liked Thundercracker since he didn't fit any of the standard molds of most other Decepticons' personalities, and was vocal about how he thought hurting humans was beneath the Decepticons. Was also one of my main picks for War for Cybertron's Escalation because of the Sentry Ability.
@FarmDog08 What if money is an issue and I can't afford $1K+ just for consoles every 5 years, not even including the games or Sub services? I'm pretty sure Capcom and Bandai could afford to port them over to the singular extra Platform. But no, scold the people who have to buy the products and not the trillion dollar companies that make them. And you're gonna say other people are entitled with your mentality??
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Re: Deals: Xbox Just Added 100+ More Games To The Spring Sale 2024
None of my trackers went off so I'll assume it's more of the same. Again.
Re: Xbox Establishes New Team Dedicated To 'Game Preservation And Forward Compatibility'
In this context 'Games Preservation' & 'Forward Compatibility' are presumably the same thing, and they only need to say Forwards Compatibility.
Re: Deals: All 50+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Spring Sale 2024
Same games at the same if not worse prices than in the past, yawn.
Re: Fallout 76's Xbox Version Is 'Free' With Amazon Prime This Month
@IGN_Commenter Was going to point this out. I guess maybe for the day Microsoft 180s on GP, if the servers are even up still.
Re: Deals: Xbox Spring Sale 2024 Now Live, 800+ Games Discounted
Same games as always. Do they really think a dollar 'n some change difference a year later is gonna make people bite this time?
Re: Talking Point: Do You Prefer Shorter Or Longer Games In General?
The problem isn't that these games are too long now, it's that most of the length is from meaningless bloat just to say 'look how long our game is!' Just another reason Indies & AA games are better than most AAA outings now.
Re: Deals: This Week's Xbox Sales Include A Few Classics From The 360 Era
Hoping some different BC games go on sale this time; usually the Spring or Summer sale is when they add new ones to the sale rotation.
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 "every single one of those games has like 3 entries lol", yeah a decade ago or longer. I don't think you understand what the word 'abandoned' means. And unlike Blue Dragon there's no excuse with Sony since they own all the rights for those abandoned IPs.
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Jax 'n Daxter, Little Big Planet, Ape Escape, Infamous, Resistance, Killzone... it sure is great to be able to play these long standing games that have PS5 entries.
Re: Killer Instinct Bonus Update Adds New Stage And '87 New Colorways'
@ValentineMeikin Yeah I'm sure they won't do exactly what they did with having Xbox exclusives come to PC. You know, what also started as 'a handful of carefully selected' games to literally everything in a few years.
Re: Overwatch 2 Really Is Done With PvE, According To New Report
Worse than the original in every way. And the original wasn't even that great. How much did Microsoft pay for this again?
Re: Xbox Users Are 'Gutted' About The Latest Microsoft Rewards Nerf
You don't jack up the prices then lower the amount you can earn, you do one or the other.
Re: 'Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra' Launches In 2025, And It Looks Incredible So Far
Didn't Wolverine fight with Cap in WW2? Or are they not going to include him because of that weird clause with Sony? Assuming it comes to Xbox.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Gets Surprise Xbox Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Screw 60FPS, finish Red Dead Online and add the things that were promised at the beginning.
Re: Xbox Is Hosting A Special Sale For Game Pass Members This Week
Almost if not all of these are either the normal lowest for the games or worse. Why lock some of them behind Game Pass?
Re: Halo Infinite Prepares For 'Major' March Update With Multiple New Features
Finally tried Infinite and put it down after 5 or so games. Felt more like some eSport FPS with some Halo things thrown in rather than Halo. Can't even take comfort in the MCC since like any older multiplayer game, the majority of people only play certain Game Modes.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Thing About Xbox Right Now?
Hard to say the Backwards Compatibility when that's long been over and I have a perfectly functional 360. I guess... the controller? I'll always like it more than the PS one, but it's effectively been the same controller for almost 2 decades so, that feels like a Mr. Fantastic stretch for something good.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@BacklogBrad It's not that much of a grind if you approach it casually. Doing Co-op VS AI 20-30 minutes a day got me the entire cast and a ton of extra stuff over time. Just gotta mess around in the Lab a bit to see who you prefer in advance and spend your Gold smartly. At the very least I'd claim it on the chance that when it permanently goes offline, you might still be able to do the Lab & Local Play w/ everything unlocked like they did when the Beta ended.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@xanderten50 They were silent on it maybe for a week after it originally going offline, but yeah, all the characters, Perks, Skins, etc. you've unlocked or bought from the Open Beta are still yours.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Starfield's Shattered Space Expansion?
They need to pull a Cyberpunk and massively update & change the game alongside a good sized DLC. I... do not have faith Bethesda can do such a thing, but would love to be wrong.
Re: MultiVersus Is Officially Re-Launching On Xbox In May 2024
@xanderten50 They said anything you owned from the Open Beta will carry over to the full release a few days after shutting down though?
Re: Talking Point: In Your Opinion, What Made The Xbox 360 Era So Incredible?
360-PS3-Wii Gen stands out a lot now, because it was the last time you saw a ton of originality in games, and Wii excluded a lot of those 360 & PS3 were a massive graphically jump from PS2/GameCube/Xbox and still look good in 2024. Now half the XBO, Series, PS4, & PS5 libraries are just ports, remasters, & remakes of games from that Generation. It's why more people are interested in Indies & smaller game now.
Re: Fallout Gets Gorgeous Dynamic Background On Xbox Ahead Of TV Show Debut
@Lightning720 It really is difficult to imagine though. "New planets with new stories"? There's already hundreds of planets with nothing that just exist, and only maybe a dozen planets and or moons with something that could very, VERY charitably be considered a town. 'Fallout 4 in space' had amazing potential... and somehow a slice of post-apocalypse Boston has more, well, EVERYTHING than Starfield except empty space. More NPCs, more named NPCs, more settlements, more weapons, more armors, more weapon and armor mods, more things to build for your outposts, more enemy types, more Character Build options...
It's fine if you liked it but I'm sorry, when the majority of the moding community gives up on trying to fix and make a Bethesda game more fun, it's objectively bad at that point.
Re: Fallout Gets Gorgeous Dynamic Background On Xbox Ahead Of TV Show Debut
Don't care about the show; care about the Next-Gen update and rumored Edition w/ all the Creation Club stuff for Fallout 4. Would rather replay that than finish Starfield at this point.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Noticing Subtle Price Changes For Microsoft Rewards
Decrease the amount you can earn, then increase the prices. Just speedrunning wracking up those L's big or small & resentment towards your company.
Re: Two Major Free Perks Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass Very Soon
They need good Perks like this more often, things offering actual content of some kind. As I said before, Skins & coins for a bunch of F2P games you might care about half of at best are not the right way to go, especially when they don't even pick the most popular ones.
Re: Five Games Announced For Xbox Game Pass At March's Partner Preview Showcase
The P3R Expansion Pass is an amazing Perk to give with GPU, Xbox really needs more stuff like that instead of Skins & coins for a dozen F2P games of which you might care about half at most.
Re: Free-To-Play Brawler MultiVersus Appears To Be Teasing Its Return
@Utena-mobile Battle Passes were solely defined in Quality by the last Skin for the paid version, and that's only if you thought it was worth almost $10. Everything else in them weren't very interesting.
Re: Free-To-Play Brawler MultiVersus Appears To Be Teasing Its Return
Wonder if this game fails after going full release if they'll do what they did for the hiatus and just let everything be free offline, or if that itself needs servers even in that state.
Re: Soapbox: 15 Years On, We Reckon Capcom Should Have A Crack At Resident Evil 5 Remake
@Lup With a company like Capcom I can't really complain about Remakes and collections considering they're still putting out new games, and good new games at that.
Re: Xbox Unveils Custom SpongeBob Series X, And You Can Actually Buy It
I gotta BE the marble!
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In April 2024
Loop Hero is a great lil' game, but it leaving isn't a big deal since it's been added to the GP Deals rotation. Would 100% recommend for the $5.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Make Use Of Cloud Gaming On Xbox Game Pass?
Only ever touched it for Game Pass Quests, and even then every 2 out of 3 games were just faster to download than to wait for the cloud.
Re: Killer Instinct Xbox Update Adds New Visual Enhancements, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Feel safe saying KI is being prepped for PS5. If not it's very coincidental they started testing Ranked Crossplay & giving it big updates around the same time Microsoft internally decided to make more exclusives Multiplat. Like how the old CoD servers magically were fixed the day the Activision merger got okay'd.
Re: Cowabunga! We're Getting Another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Game On Xbox
@Vipor007 It's on my radar, just waiting for it to hit a new low as of now.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying The Star Wars: Battlefront 'Classic Collection'?
Maybe I'll mess around with it after it comes to EA Play 6+ months later. Maybe.
Re: Cowabunga! We're Getting Another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Game On Xbox
Gonna wait for a sale with this one. Shredder's Revenge was my first taste of a Beat 'Em Up, so with all the ones I missed before and own but need to play now, I'm good until then.
Re: Review: Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons Remake - Emotionally-Charged Puzzle Platformer Makes Its Return
Not sure if this is a game that needs to be re-released every console Gen, especially if they're not gonna add anything like online.
Re: Fable Reboot Gets New Co-Developer To Work Alongside Playground Games
Even if the core gameplay's good, I don't think it'll feel very 'Fable' with how things are in Current Year. 100% gonna be a situation where people either love it or say it's Fable in name only. Just remember how many of us thought Redfall was gonna be amazing, and then we played it. Would be glad to be wrong but temper those expectations just in case.
Re: If Your Xbox Wishlist Has Suddenly Disappeared, You're Not Alone
I stopped using the Wishlist when I found out about sites that price track and don't count every game/DLC 10% off w/ Game Pass as a sale like the Wishlist does.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Leads To Disappointing Results For Warner Bros.
@Dusk_Actual My friends who follow everything DC and their friends pretty much only care about Harley as an accessory to The Joker. From what I can tell, most of the people who see Harley as a draw are the people on Twitter who don't buy or consume any media, which DC and Marvel both cater too for some reason.
Re: Talking Point: Will Certain PlayStation & Nintendo Games Eventually Come To Xbox?
@STX GameFreak's released a few multiplatform games. They're Second-Party devs to Nintendo and essentially any non-Pokemon games they make they're free to release on whatever they want.
Re: Talking Point: Will Certain PlayStation & Nintendo Games Eventually Come To Xbox?
@LX_FENIX This. The most we're seeing from either are games with expiring exclusivity deals or if it was only made for them without one, which in most cases would be up to the Third-Parties involved. Great example as of late is Atlus, releasing the Persona games on non-Sony systems and now releasing SMT V on something besides Switch.
Re: Talking Point: Will Certain PlayStation & Nintendo Games Eventually Come To Xbox?
@Savage_Joe Rare Replay was because Xbox bought Rare thinking they'd get Donkey Kong, TW101 was because Platinum self-Published the Remaster where as Nintendo Published the Wii U original, Crash and Spyro were only Published by Sony who never owned them, & Sony was told by MLB either it goes Multiplatform or stops being made. These are all very specific instances and very different from Sony or Nintendo saying, 'we don't need this to be exclusive anymore' like Microsoft's doing.
Re: Riot Fans Don't Seem To Like The Name Of Its New Fighting Game
The problem isn't pronunciation, it's that the name doesn't tell you what it is. There's a reason Song of Nunu and Ruined King have 'A League of Legends Story' attached, so people know they're related to the thing they're based on. Unless they plan on turning this into a long standing series, the name fails at it's one purpose.
Re: Talking Point: Will Certain PlayStation & Nintendo Games Eventually Come To Xbox?
MLB was because they had no choice if Sony wanted it to continue and part of the deal with Bungie was they retain the right to choose what their games do and don't get made for. They clearly mean PC when they say 'multiplatform'. I don't see Nintendo or Sony sharing with Xbox outside of case-by-case choices by Third-Parties, like how Atlus just decided to start bringing the Persona games to other Platforms, and since they seem to be making good money off that choice, maybe more companies will follow. But I don't see it going farther than that.
Re: Five More Of Xbox's Rare Classics Are Now Available For Switch Online
@ThunderCracker Always liked Thundercracker since he didn't fit any of the standard molds of most other Decepticons' personalities, and was vocal about how he thought hurting humans was beneath the Decepticons. Was also one of my main picks for War for Cybertron's Escalation because of the Sentry Ability.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Leads To Disappointing Results For Warner Bros.
Even if the gameplay was amazing, the story is so disrespectful to the source characters it'd still be trash.
Re: Xbox Fans Share Their Disappointment As Two New Games Skip The Platform
@FarmDog08 What if money is an issue and I can't afford $1K+ just for consoles every 5 years, not even including the games or Sub services? I'm pretty sure Capcom and Bandai could afford to port them over to the singular extra Platform. But no, scold the people who have to buy the products and not the trillion dollar companies that make them. And you're gonna say other people are entitled with your mentality??
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance Locks In Xbox Series X|S And Xbox One Release
Very surprised we got this before a port of the SMT 3 Nocturne Remaster.