@Kraven I think that's a meaningless statistic. Developers who release their game on game pass have already received a huge chunk of money upfront from Microsoft. So whether or not it sells to game pass subscribers who funded that chunk of money is meaningless.
The bigger issue with game pass is for those games that aren't launched into the service. How many game pass subscribers are buying those games? I believe we already have reports that state: "not many" and that is the true problem with game pass. Any xbox game not launching in game pass is unlikely to turn a profit.
@Sveakungen Sounds like its currently only available on the PS5 console. Is there no ability to stream from the cloud to phones, PCs, tablets, or the portal?
@GuyinPA75 In your situation, I also would never use handheld. But since someone is using the TV a lot, most of my gaming time is handheld. Additionally, there are a few indoor extracurricular activities that my sons do where parents are told to wait in their cars. So I wait in my car and play on my Steam deck/switch. I could doom scroll on my phone but I'd much rather game.
The 32 player servers are player hosted. The only "hosting" they do is for launching a 2-4 player co-op, but I'm pretty sure that's still primarily peer to peer since when the host gets kicked off, everyone else does too.
It really doesn't make sense why their costs are so high. There is likely some very poor server side implementations on their end.
@Banjo- For me the big thing is simplicity. I don't want to have to search the web for drivers, don't want to attach a keyboard or mouse, or toggle launch options to get a game to run. From a user perspective, I should be able to find the game and launch it without worrying about anything else. If it can do all that and still support PC games, then that's fine, but that seems like a high bar. I'm perfectly fine with Xbox only.
@Luca91 If it's windows I'm out. But if it's the same or similar OS as xbox, I'm in. Also, it has to play all (or at least most) of existing xbox games. Basically, if the series S can handle it, this new handheld should be able to as well.
Xbox physical games might end up being limited run. We already know 75% of xbox owners have a Series S. Anyone buying through the windows store or Steam is also doing digital. So you end up with maybe 10% of possible sales or so going to owners of the xbox series x.
@NarutosBiggestFan @Romans12 @FarmDog08 Hey fellow dad gamers. Also relative picky with my limited gaming time. Mostly, I just play indies since I can realistically finish them. Thankfully there are also a handful of games that my kids play that I can kinda enjoy with them. But most of the games they play bore me to sleep sometimes lol.
For competitive games that I am active in, I buy every DLC. In my case, that's every Smash bros and every normal Street Fighter (i.e. not the cross overs) . I've also bought DLC for a handful of other games: Fire Emblem 3 houses, Mario kart 8, Monster train, Sonic Mania, and maybe a few more that I'm forgetting.
I'm a sucker that will be buying this at or near day one. Ark players be going through the lowest of lows along with the highest of highs and I'm here for it.
@LordFunkalot Castle crashers is definitely easier, but I find the games way too boring now. I would much rather play through TMNT or Streets of Rage with my kids (ages 9 and 6).
I have one. The screen is super convenient. I can play it on the couch like a laptop. Pretty hard to do that with a separate monitor. At $200, I'd say the price is fair for what you get. Yes, you can get a better quality screen but then you're dealing with the hassle of lots of wires, a stand to support the screen, or you may be forced to play at a desk or table, and possibly needing multiple outlets. With the Xscreen, all you need is one outlet to plug in the power cord and you're good to go.
@Balta666 Gyro compatibility will probably be poor but a lot of xcloud games support gyro through the phone so those should be easy to patch since the capability is already there.
I would also expect Microsoft 1st party to lead the way in patches, so games like Halo, Gears of War, and maybe Quake, Doom, etc. Since they now own those devs as well.
I've been waiting for xbox to get a gyro controller for a long time. Absolutely interested in the controller. Don't care about any of the console revisions.
@InterceptorAlpha I was playing Ark's battle Royale a few months back and there were a few people couldn't stop using slurs. If this existed back then, I would've used it for sure.
At $15 per month ($180 per year) , you can probably just buy every game you're interested in especially since Ubisoft's games are almost always on sale for 50% off or more.
Switch is 1st priority for RPGs for me. So if it's an RPG, and it's on the Switch, I'm getting it for the Switch. (Convenience of playing anywhere makes it far more likely for me to actually finish the game). The ones that are too technologically advanced for Switch, those are the ones I'd want on Xbox. But since they aren't coming to Xbox, I have a PS5. (Literally, the only reasons I have a PS5 is Final Fantasy and PSVR 2)
@PushButtons You complain about repetitive enemies but then mention castle crashers? Almost every enemy in fight n rage has its own techniques and fighting patterns. There's probably at least 10 variations of enemies and I can only recall 3 variations of castle crashers enemies: small with arrows, small with magic, big. Even the playable characters are all exactly the same minus trivial differences in spells. Fight N Rage is more like a fighting game that has been made into a beat em up. It has way more depth in its combat system than castle crashers does. Streets of rage 4 and tmnt shredders revenge are both also very solid choices.
Played Steamworld Dig 2 during one of the free play weekends. Bought it afterwards. That's the only time I've done that so far, but that's mostly because I'm trying to spend my time playing the games I've already paid for.
I almost bought this game 3 times. Now I won't have to (but I'll definitely pick it up on sale for keeps at some point in the future). I really enjoyed the first one and these games remind me of an old DOS game that I used to love: Conqueror 1086 AD (or something like that)
@Synthatron_Prime I've only played just up until the Raditz fight myself. Wondering if it's more time efficient for me to just start over or try to figure out this cryptic workaround. I also haven't played the game in about 6 months or so, so I could use a refresher on the basics.
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Re: Square Enix Is Bringing Eight Games To Xbox Today (September 26)
@johndoe89 Nice avatar, chummer.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Xbox Game Of The Year So Far?
@datamonkey I just got all the achievements in unicorn overlord. Now I don't know what to do with my life lol
Re: The Xbox Game Pass Conversion Ratios Have Gotten Worse This Week
@theduckofdeath People who had game pass ultimate clear into 2024.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think About Visions Of Mana From Square Enix
@Kraven I think that's a meaningless statistic. Developers who release their game on game pass have already received a huge chunk of money upfront from Microsoft. So whether or not it sells to game pass subscribers who funded that chunk of money is meaningless.
The bigger issue with game pass is for those games that aren't launched into the service. How many game pass subscribers are buying those games? I believe we already have reports that state: "not many" and that is the true problem with game pass. Any xbox game not launching in game pass is unlikely to turn a profit.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Interested In Any Of The New Xbox Series X|S Models?
I'm just waiting for a gyro supported controller.
Re: 8BitDo Unveils Budget-Friendly Xbox Controller With Hall Effect Sticks
@HonestHick I haven't had a broken controller since the n64 (and the joy cons)
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Launches With Uncapped 30FPS Performance On Xbox
@Neither_scene Yeah if you can swing a $1500 PC, no need for the $500 series X.
Re: Palworld Patch Notes Unveiled For Second Xbox Update Of The Week (0.1.5.1)
Can pals be renamed now?
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying The Star Wars: Battlefront 'Classic Collection'?
This takes me back to a time where online multiplayer didn't have to be GAAS. Definitely picking up this one.
Re: Phil Spencer Tells Xbox Fan To Expect Major xCloud Feature 'This Year'
@ZuneTattooGuy Not quite. In this article that we're commenting on, the following snippet is written:
"Before anyone gets too excited, it should be noted that the original plan in 2022 was only to allow access to "select" games from your library"
However, console only streaming isn't nearly as useful as being to able to stream to portable devices.
Re: Phil Spencer Tells Xbox Fan To Expect Major xCloud Feature 'This Year'
@Sveakungen Sounds like its currently only available on the PS5 console. Is there no ability to stream from the cloud to phones, PCs, tablets, or the portal?
Re: Random: Phil Spencer Has Been 'Liking' Tweets About Xbox And Handhelds
@GuyinPA75 In your situation, I also would never use handheld. But since someone is using the TV a lot, most of my gaming time is handheld. Additionally, there are a few indoor extracurricular activities that my sons do where parents are told to wait in their cars. So I wait in my car and play on my Steam deck/switch. I could doom scroll on my phone but I'd much rather game.
Re: Random: Phil Spencer Has Been 'Liking' Tweets About Xbox And Handhelds
@GuyinPA75 And do you have a wife and kids? That's where the true benefit of handheld comes in.
Re: Palworld Server Costs May Explain Why Xbox Is Helping Out With Pocketpair's Game Pass Hit
The 32 player servers are player hosted. The only "hosting" they do is for launching a 2-4 player co-op, but I'm pretty sure that's still primarily peer to peer since when the host gets kicked off, everyone else does too.
It really doesn't make sense why their costs are so high. There is likely some very poor server side implementations on their end.
Re: Xbox Might Be Looking Into A Handheld Console As PlayStation Rumours Circulate
@Banjo- For me the big thing is simplicity. I don't want to have to search the web for drivers, don't want to attach a keyboard or mouse, or toggle launch options to get a game to run. From a user perspective, I should be able to find the game and launch it without worrying about anything else. If it can do all that and still support PC games, then that's fine, but that seems like a high bar. I'm perfectly fine with Xbox only.
Re: Xbox Might Be Looking Into A Handheld Console As PlayStation Rumours Circulate
@Luca91 If it's windows I'm out. But if it's the same or similar OS as xbox, I'm in. Also, it has to play all (or at least most) of existing xbox games. Basically, if the series S can handle it, this new handheld should be able to as well.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations Brings Its 'All-New Collection' To Xbox In Autumn 2024
This might also be a full price purchase from me (long as it's not launching the same week as the next 3d mario) 😉
Re: Xbox 'Providing Support To Enable Dedicated Servers' In Palworld
This is great news. I will definitely play a lot more with dedicated servers.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Buy A 'Revised' Xbox Series X|S Controller In 2024?
If it's got functional gyro, I'm all in.
Re: Hellblade 2 Will Be A Digital-Only, Cheaper Release On Xbox And PC
Xbox physical games might end up being limited run. We already know 75% of xbox owners have a Series S. Anyone buying through the windows store or Steam is also doing digital. So you end up with maybe 10% of possible sales or so going to owners of the xbox series x.
Re: Palworld's Crazy Demand Is Causing Issues With Creating Multiplayer Worlds
I played this with my two boys this morning. It is amazing. I hope I can bring the wife in too tbh. So long Pokémon, it was nice knowing you.
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (January 15-19)
Downloading Pal World day one. I'll pick up prince of Persia eventually.
Re: Poll: How Often Do You Buy DLC Packs & Expansions For Your Games?
@NarutosBiggestFan @Romans12 @FarmDog08 Hey fellow dad gamers. Also relative picky with my limited gaming time. Mostly, I just play indies since I can realistically finish them. Thankfully there are also a handful of games that my kids play that I can kinda enjoy with them. But most of the games they play bore me to sleep sometimes lol.
Re: Poll: How Often Do You Buy DLC Packs & Expansions For Your Games?
For competitive games that I am active in, I buy every DLC. In my case, that's every Smash bros and every normal Street Fighter (i.e. not the cross overs) . I've also bought DLC for a handful of other games: Fire Emblem 3 houses, Mario kart 8, Monster train, Sonic Mania, and maybe a few more that I'm forgetting.
Re: Ark: Survival Ascended Set To Make Console Debut On Xbox Next Week
I'm a sucker that will be buying this at or near day one. Ark players be going through the lowest of lows along with the highest of highs and I'm here for it.
Re: Alien Hominid HD & Invasion Crash-Land On Xbox This November
@LordFunkalot Castle crashers is definitely easier, but I find the games way too boring now. I would much rather play through TMNT or Streets of Rage with my kids (ages 9 and 6).
Re: The Xbox Series S 'xScreen' Is Now Officially Licensed By Microsoft
I have one. The screen is super convenient. I can play it on the couch like a laptop. Pretty hard to do that with a separate monitor. At $200, I'd say the price is fair for what you get. Yes, you can get a better quality screen but then you're dealing with the hassle of lots of wires, a stand to support the screen, or you may be forced to play at a desk or table, and possibly needing multiple outlets. With the Xscreen, all you need is one outlet to plug in the power cord and you're good to go.
Re: Rockstar Begins Adding Classic Games To 'GTA+' Service On Xbox
@carlos82 Don't forget the v-bucks! Or gta-bucks!
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Was Dead Serious About Wanting To Acquire Nintendo In 2020
They mention Valve in that letter too, not just Nintendo.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Was Dead Serious About Wanting To Acquire Nintendo In 2020
This is pretty awful tbh. They really out here trying to consolidate the entire gaming industry. And are willing to play "the long game" to do it.
Re: Microsoft Is Targeting 2028 For A 'Hybrid' Next Generation Xbox Console
Returning to the power of the cloud. We'll see if it works any better this time around.
Re: Here's A Look At The New 'Sebile' Xbox Controller, Set To Launch In 2024
@Balta666 Gyro compatibility will probably be poor but a lot of xcloud games support gyro through the phone so those should be easy to patch since the capability is already there.
I would also expect Microsoft 1st party to lead the way in patches, so games like Halo, Gears of War, and maybe Quake, Doom, etc. Since they now own those devs as well.
Re: Here's A Look At The New 'Sebile' Xbox Controller, Set To Launch In 2024
If it has gyro, I'm buying it day one.
Re: Xbox Series X All-Digital Console Refresh Planned For Late 2024
I've been waiting for xbox to get a gyro controller for a long time. Absolutely interested in the controller. Don't care about any of the console revisions.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To 'Confusion' About Elden Ring And Game Pass
I haven't bought Elden Ring yet. But I will eventually, probably...
Too many other games at the moment.
Re: New Xbox Feature Will Allow You To Report Inappropriate Voice Chats
@sixrings Sure, but then it's basically just he said / she said. If there's audio evidence though, that makes a big difference.
Re: New Xbox Feature Will Allow You To Report Inappropriate Voice Chats
@InterceptorAlpha I was playing Ark's battle Royale a few months back and there were a few people couldn't stop using slurs. If this existed back then, I would've used it for sure.
Re: Xbox Deals Unlocked Sale Now Live, 600+ Games Discounted
@Sveakungen Lots of fighting games in this sale. Probably trying to catch the stragglers that aren't playing SF6
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 3-4)
Street Fighter 6 for me. And on Xbox, too. Time to start that grind to the top (or maybe the bottom lol)
Re: Three Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (May 25)
Isn't Massive Chalice a really old games with gold title?
Re: SEGA Considers Following Xbox, PlayStation & Nintendo In Charging $70 For AAA Games
I don't know why people think quality of games have gone down. Yall must have never played Shaq Fu.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Leave Xbox Game Pass If Microsoft Removed Its Exclusives?
I'll stop subbing when game pass starts costing me more than $75 per year.
Re: All Of These 60+ Games Are Included With Ubisoft Plus On Xbox
At $15 per month ($180 per year) , you can probably just buy every game you're interested in especially since Ubisoft's games are almost always on sale for 50% off or more.
Re: Pick One: Which Of These Recent Square Enix Games Would You Most Like On Xbox?
Switch is 1st priority for RPGs for me. So if it's an RPG, and it's on the Switch, I'm getting it for the Switch. (Convenience of playing anywhere makes it far more likely for me to actually finish the game). The ones that are too technologically advanced for Switch, those are the ones I'd want on Xbox. But since they aren't coming to Xbox, I have a PS5. (Literally, the only reasons I have a PS5 is Final Fantasy and PSVR 2)
Re: Popular RPG 'Sea Of Stars' Locks In August 2023 Release Date For Xbox
Buying this on Switch but I hope at least one of yall buy it on Xbox lol
Re: 'The Mageseeker: A League Of Legends Story' Is Bringing Its Pixel RPG To Xbox
This is a 2d game? Did I blink too many times during the trailer?
Edit: Yes, I did apparently. Sorry guys, it's late. 😴
Re: The 'Must-Own' Fight'N Rage Is Getting A Free Xbox Series X|S Upgrade Next Week
@PushButtons You complain about repetitive enemies but then mention castle crashers? Almost every enemy in fight n rage has its own techniques and fighting patterns. There's probably at least 10 variations of enemies and I can only recall 3 variations of castle crashers enemies: small with arrows, small with magic, big. Even the playable characters are all exactly the same minus trivial differences in spells. Fight N Rage is more like a fighting game that has been made into a beat em up. It has way more depth in its combat system than castle crashers does. Streets of rage 4 and tmnt shredders revenge are both also very solid choices.
Re: Poll: How Many Games Have You Bought Because Of Xbox Free Play Days?
Played Steamworld Dig 2 during one of the free play weekends. Bought it afterwards. That's the only time I've done that so far, but that's mostly because I'm trying to spend my time playing the games I've already paid for.
Re: Strategy RPG 'Mount & Blade 2: Bannerlord' Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (Feb 14)
I almost bought this game 3 times. Now I won't have to (but I'll definitely pick it up on sale for keeps at some point in the future). I really enjoyed the first one and these games remind me of an old DOS game that I used to love: Conqueror 1086 AD (or something like that)
Re: Dragon Ball: Kakarot Finally Launches For Xbox Series X|S With Awkward Workaround
@Synthatron_Prime I've only played just up until the Raditz fight myself. Wondering if it's more time efficient for me to just start over or try to figure out this cryptic workaround. I also haven't played the game in about 6 months or so, so I could use a refresher on the basics.