Expected really as Sony still has a deal with Activision, which to be fair MS had in the past, however the deal with Sony seems more egregious as it's not just a month delay to maps, it seems to be exclusive content or content locked off from Xbox customers for up to a year. Very scummy deal.
Will MS try to get a deal with Activision after Sony's has expired? I suspect not, they don't that many deals with third parties these days.
I voted Vice City, expecting it to be popular choice too. I see that it currently is. I think the music and sunny aesthetic really made this the best GTA game.
Hopefully they don't play like the originals, those things are clunky.
The nostalgia is strong though and that will drive sales, just please please make they play more modern, oh and make sure all the original music is intact too.
@blinx01 Yeah, I think its optional for the Series S, I saw it on a YouTube video. I wonder if it is also optional for the XB1X? I don't have the game to check this.
I went all digital around 2015 so this doesn't effect me.
It does kinda baffle me that this is even news, for years now a disc has just been a physical key for a digital game.
I would suggest that 100% of XBOX One game discs out in the wild do not contain the final game, they all have updates, some of which are actually most of the game itself.
We are not in the cartridge days where you can pop the game in 20 years down the line and you play the finished article, those days are gone, many many years ago now.
Physical copies are for the collector, not for the preservationist.
EDIT:
I understand that people with poor internet may want to buy a physical copy, but to be honest poor internet is gonna catch you out at some point, even if the game is on the disc, updates are often huge these days and games never release in a final state.
It's just the way it is, game publishers are not not going to release their game 18 months later just so you can get a final version on a disc, the world has changed.
Updates can also be a positive, games often get support for a long time and you are going to have to download lots of data, this is gaming and has been the case since last gen (2013 XB1/PS4).
With regards to the Series version not being mostly available and the XB1 version being on the disc, well there's a lot more XB1s out there, but even if they did release a specific Series disc (too costly to produce two physical versions, so no chance there) there's no guarantee that the Series version was ready at the time of disc production anyway.
I've mentioned it before in a comment on another article here, on my honeymoon in Japan I visited the aquarium in Osaka.
They had a Kinect looking down on you to track your movement through a section on the floor where fish were projected.
As you walked round your splashes in the water scared the fish and they'd swim away. Of course no real, water, splashes or fish, just a cool effect. All the little kids seemed to love it.
Kinect, more popular than Xbox One in Japan!
Not difficult I know. π€£
FIFA are a grubby outfit, I would actually be pleased if they moved away from using the name. As long as all the other licenses are present who would really care?
Most games that haven't made it to the program must be due to licensing issues, so the list will never grown by a great amount
I expect only a handful of games to be added, due to the software wizards in this department gaining so much experience at this point, then it's game over for this feature. Don't lose perspective on just how good they have done here!
I haven't started the show as yet, but I have been enjoying the memes. It's great to see that Xbox is leaning into popular goings on again, their social media accounts are very well run.
With it launching with so many problems, and the fact that it's also a mobile game, will they be able to not just fix bugs but make the game better? I'm not so sure.
Share your clip to Medal and edit it on your phone, this is a way round providing an up to date editing tool on the console I assume. Should be easy to edit using touch controls.
I have a pretty good internet speed, 150meg, but this will be nice for instantly dipping into a game to see if it's worth downloading or even purchasing. Nice for those stuck on last gen unable to get their hands on a series console too. Another great feature. ππ»
@BlueOcean I'm 99% sure I have that turned off, this was following advice from Vincent on YouTube, he referred to it in one of his set up videos. If I remember correctly it's not required as its basically a bandwidth saving setting, which the C9 doesn't have an issue with.
@CourtneyDL Yikes. Glad that you've got a replacement sorted. ππ»
I had an incident similar to this back in the 360 era. I had a console with RROD, no problem, I was gonna sort it myself. I'm on YouTube following a video on how to take the console apart... Console fixed.... Just putting it back together and I knocked my at the time very expensive laptop off the arm of the sofa, screen smashed. π€¦π»ββοΈπ€¦π»ββοΈπ€¦π»ββοΈπ€£
I'm glad this feature has come, we just have to wait for TV manufacturers to catch up with their firmware updates now.
I have an LG C9 and it currently supports everything Xbox has to offer, other than 4K, 120fps and Dolby Vision all together, I just have to make do with those settings at 60fps, or switch to HDR10 at 4K 120fps.
Now my model is two years old I bet LG don't offer an update, a shame when you spend big bucks on a premium model. Ah well.
An additional thought, I may go from my own custom modern Jetman pic to my XBOX 360 magenta spectrum pic, I'm sure thats what I left my my 360 set to, would be nice to see it again.
Really excellent work from MS, it's these little QOL updates that make old features carry forward a lovely little extra and they are real difference makers to users of your platform. Wonderful work.
I just knew the poll would see BF beat COD, and yet sales will show in COD's favour every time, it's the game that everyone hates but lots of people still buy.
I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole! Too little storage to be worth it, ok I already own two 1TB cards so I get that this is not for me, but I would rather see a 2TB card at a reasonable uplift in cost.
@Clankylad Me too. At launch on the 360 and digitally on the One. Fell off it pretty early on twice. I don't get the hype for this game. It's clunky AF. π€·π»ββοΈ
This is a crap solution, the only thing its good for is cheevo hunting. I assume it'll be two separate save files too, just silly.
Thankfully, there is zero chance that this becomes the main way of doing things going forward, I doubt we'll see it again in more than a handful of titles, MS have already created the solution for this.
Also, the planet isn't gonna thank them for this, and neither will I. Smart Delivery is great and digital distribution is now, not even the future.
This really is a shame as I'm enjoying my XSX & XSS so much. A chip shortage won't hurt as much as it would have in the past though, at least many will have the option of Xcloud to fill in in the meantime.
I bought the last Duke remake, the green one. I've often felt since then that maybe I should have picked up the classic black one instead. Maybe now's my chance.
@Widey85 Well to be fair if you play for example Black Ops on an Xbox One or newer console it is enhanced. Better frame rate, better texture filtering, faster loading, improved native hardware scaling, native video and picture capture, native streaming. So I'd say it's a much much improved experience compared to playing it on the 360.
Granted all this is offered by the console itself rather than Activision themselves, but still true.
Totally agree on the multiplayer issues, they should patch their games, as mentioned in one of my comments too.
@NEStalgia I'm not saying that we should embrace it, it's just an apples and oranges comparison.
Nintendo do this all the time, high prices, both digital and physical, rarely discounted and not by much when they are. They get a free pass, cos Nintendo, Activision don't because they are a scummy company.
I went digital in about 2015 and the benefits, no clutter, no risk of damaged discs, a library with me wherever I log in, game sharing (although I don't currently do that, but others enjoy this feature), no disc swapping, better for the planet, well it's revolutionary.
I think it's a much superior experience and I don't mind paying a premium for it. Physical media isn't gonna be with us forever, times have changed.
Surely everyone on here uses Spotify?! What a great product it is. Of course it's questionable how good it is for the artists.... That's a different matter. Hopefully Gamepass has a fairer business model.
I think the problem is we've all become accustomed to physical media dropping in price as the product ages, that's only because shelf space is premium and they need to put new stock in place.
We are in a digital era and have to adjust that thought process. COD, love it or hate it is a top franchise and Activision has every right to protect their IP and keep it as a 'premium' product. Apple do this, Disney do this.
To be fair, if you put aside the fact that you can buy a used disc for half these sale prices (of course you can, it's a second hand product!) the games are being offered at quite a large discount. They have also been offered at a larger discount in the past, that's when I purchased them.
Now, the issue of the games being full of hackers is absolutely a massive problem. They are selling a premium product, they should offer premium support. The games should be patched.
@TheIronChimp I had been thinking about this too, but I actually don't think it would be a ton of work, a similar solution to the 360 Gamerpic one discussed here should work.
This is a great sponsorship deal and I am personally very pleased to see this.
In the UK Xbox has had a huge problem for a long time whereby their brand is not anywhere, whereas you could walk down the street and see busses with PlayStation adverts on, billboards, people in PS branded gear. This needs to change, to a lot of people 'PlayStation' means 'game console'. For a while, during the 360 era, Xbox actually had the mainstream mindshare, but it's it's completely gone here. This is a good start. More adverts, more sponsoring events and sport.
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Re: Once Again, Call Of Duty: Vanguard Will Have Exclusive Benefits On PlayStation
Expected really as Sony still has a deal with Activision, which to be fair MS had in the past, however the deal with Sony seems more egregious as it's not just a month delay to maps, it seems to be exclusive content or content locked off from Xbox customers for up to a year.
Very scummy deal.
Will MS try to get a deal with Activision after Sony's has expired? I suspect not, they don't that many deals with third parties these days.
Re: Brace Yourself, The GTA Trilogy Remaster Could Be Pretty Expensive
Its Rockstar, did anyone expect this to be cheap?! π€·π»ββοΈ
Re: Far Cry 6 Only Installs 700MB From The Disc On Xbox Series X
@KilloWertz
Hmmmm.
Just gonna leave this here. Unfortunate. ππ€£
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/far-cry-6-has-reportedly-shipped-wrong-versions-in-the-uk-blocking-upgrades/
Re: Pick One: Which Is Your Favourite Game In The GTA Trilogy?
I voted Vice City, expecting it to be popular choice too. I see that it currently is.
I think the music and sunny aesthetic really made this the best GTA game.
Re: It's Official, The GTA Remastered Trilogy Launches This Year
Hopefully they don't play like the originals, those things are clunky.
The nostalgia is strong though and that will drive sales, just please please make they play more modern, oh and make sure all the original music is intact too.
Re: Far Cry 6 Only Installs 700MB From The Disc On Xbox Series X
@blinx01 Yeah, I think its optional for the Series S, I saw it on a YouTube video.
I wonder if it is also optional for the XB1X?
I don't have the game to check this.
Re: Far Cry 6 Only Installs 700MB From The Disc On Xbox Series X
I went all digital around 2015 so this doesn't effect me.
It does kinda baffle me that this is even news, for years now a disc has just been a physical key for a digital game.
I would suggest that 100% of XBOX One game discs out in the wild do not contain the final game, they all have updates, some of which are actually most of the game itself.
We are not in the cartridge days where you can pop the game in 20 years down the line and you play the finished article, those days are gone, many many years ago now.
Physical copies are for the collector, not for the preservationist.
EDIT:
I understand that people with poor internet may want to buy a physical copy, but to be honest poor internet is gonna catch you out at some point, even if the game is on the disc, updates are often huge these days and games never release in a final state.
It's just the way it is, game publishers are not not going to release their game 18 months later just so you can get a final version on a disc, the world has changed.
Updates can also be a positive, games often get support for a long time and you are going to have to download lots of data, this is gaming and has been the case since last gen (2013 XB1/PS4).
With regards to the Series version not being mostly available and the XB1 version being on the disc, well there's a lot more XB1s out there, but even if they did release a specific Series disc (too costly to produce two physical versions, so no chance there) there's no guarantee that the Series version was ready at the time of disc production anyway.
Re: Sky TV Has Partnered With Microsoft To Resurrect The Xbox Kinect
I've mentioned it before in a comment on another article here, on my honeymoon in Japan I visited the aquarium in Osaka.
They had a Kinect looking down on you to track your movement through a section on the floor where fish were projected.
As you walked round your splashes in the water scared the fish and they'd swim away. Of course no real, water, splashes or fish, just a cool effect. All the little kids seemed to love it.
Kinect, more popular than Xbox One in Japan!
Not difficult I know. π€£
Re: Xbox 20th Anniversary Special Edition Controller Arrives This November
Ordered, couldn't resist.
I claimed 60 quid with my reward points, so it doesn't hurt too much.
What does hurt is trying to store all the controllers I own, I think I have a problem. π¬π€£
Re: EA Sports Is Officially Thinking About Renaming The FIFA Series
FIFA are a grubby outfit, I would actually be pleased if they moved away from using the name. As long as all the other licenses are present who would really care?
Re: Xbox Appears To Be Teasing A 20th Anniversary Controller
I have already pre-ordered the 20th anniversary Duke, looks like my wallet is going to get a little lighter still.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Could Be Adding New Backwards Compatible Games This November
Most games that haven't made it to the program must be due to licensing issues, so the list will never grown by a great amount
I expect only a handful of games to be added, due to the software wizards in this department gaining so much experience at this point, then it's game over for this feature. Don't lose perspective on just how good they have done here!
Re: Xbox & Adidas Are Bringing Out Some 20th Anniversary Sneakers
Adidas & Xbox, two brands I particularly like.
Sadly I bet these things will be hard to get hold of.
Re: Random: Xbox Jokingly Hopes To Appear In Season Two Of Squid Game
I haven't started the show as yet, but I have been enjoying the memes. It's great to see that Xbox is leaning into popular goings on again, their social media accounts are very well run.
Re: Life Is Strange: True Colors Adds 'High Performance' 60FPS Mode On Xbox Series X
For this type of game I'd take a higher res at 30fps than lower res 60fps, it's not a twitch action game.
Re: Konami Apologises For eFootball 'Problems', Promises Improvements
With it launching with so many problems, and the fact that it's also a mobile game, will they be able to not just fix bugs but make the game better? I'm not so sure.
Re: MediEvil Inspired Pumpkin Jack Is Heading To Xbox Series X|S Just In Time For Halloween
I was looking at this game the last time that it was on sale, didn't quite bite, will do so next time there's a sale.
Re: Medal TV, The Game Capture Platform, Has Partnered With Xbox
Share your clip to Medal and edit it on your phone, this is a way round providing an up to date editing tool on the console I assume. Should be easy to edit using touch controls.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With October 2021's Xbox Games With Gold?
A good selection of games for October, and a couple of months of better games now (IMO).
I already have the Resi game but 3 new games (to me) isn't bad.
Re: Xbox Cloud Gaming For Console Is Now Rolling Out To Insiders
I have a pretty good internet speed, 150meg, but this will be nice for instantly dipping into a game to see if it's worth downloading or even purchasing.
Nice for those stuck on last gen unable to get their hands on a series console too. Another great feature. ππ»
Re: Dolby Vision For Gaming Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
@BlueOcean I'm 99% sure I have that turned off, this was following advice from Vincent on YouTube, he referred to it in one of his set up videos. If I remember correctly it's not required as its basically a bandwidth saving setting, which the C9 doesn't have an issue with.
Re: Dolby Vision For Gaming Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
@CourtneyDL Yikes. Glad that you've got a replacement sorted. ππ»
I had an incident similar to this back in the 360 era. I had a console with RROD, no problem, I was gonna sort it myself. I'm on YouTube following a video on how to take the console apart... Console fixed.... Just putting it back together and I knocked my at the time very expensive laptop off the arm of the sofa, screen smashed. π€¦π»ββοΈπ€¦π»ββοΈπ€¦π»ββοΈπ€£
Re: Dolby Vision For Gaming Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
@BlueOcean I can check my settings for you, but I'm away from my Xbox until Friday.
Re: Dolby Vision For Gaming Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
@CourtneyDL Hold up, more detail of this incident is required! π€£
Re: Dolby Vision For Gaming Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
I'm glad this feature has come, we just have to wait for TV manufacturers to catch up with their firmware updates now.
I have an LG C9 and it currently supports everything Xbox has to offer, other than 4K, 120fps and Dolby Vision all together, I just have to make do with those settings at 60fps, or switch to HDR10 at 4K 120fps.
Now my model is two years old I bet LG don't offer an update, a shame when you spend big bucks on a premium model. Ah well.
Re: Hyperkin Announces 'Cortana Edition' Xbox Duke Controller
Ordered the black one, it will go well with my green one that they made a short time ago.
Re: Here's What's Included In The Xbox September 2021 Update
I tried out the new Edge on my XSS this morning, it worked very well, streamed video perfectly. Nice update.
Re: Xbox Is Allowing You To 'Bring Back' Your Old Xbox 360 Gamerpic
An additional thought, I may go from my own custom modern Jetman pic to my XBOX 360 magenta spectrum pic, I'm sure thats what I left my my 360 set to, would be nice to see it again.
Re: Exhilarating Sci-Fi Adventure Chorus Launches On Xbox This December
Ah, you mean the famous game Chorvs.
Re: Xbox Is Allowing You To 'Bring Back' Your Old Xbox 360 Gamerpic
Really excellent work from MS, it's these little QOL updates that make old features carry forward a lovely little extra and they are real difference makers to users of your platform. Wonderful work.
Re: Pick One: Are You More Interested In COD Or Battlefield This Year?
I just knew the poll would see BF beat COD, and yet sales will show in COD's favour every time, it's the game that everyone hates but lots of people still buy.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates Nintendo GameCube Anniversary By Sharing His Favourite GC Game
Good choice Phil, mine too.
(Although Super Mario Sunshine was pretty great too).
Re: Rumour: Xbox Is Getting A Cheaper 500GB Series X|S Expansion Card
I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole!
Too little storage to be worth it, ok I already own two 1TB cards so I get that this is not for me, but I would rather see a 2TB card at a reasonable uplift in cost.
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
Could this game come to Gamepass on PC, and be streamed to Xbox consoles via Xcloud? Hmmmmm
Re: Grand Theft Auto V On Next-Gen Is Looking Exactly The Same, Delayed Until 2022
@Clankylad Me too. At launch on the 360 and digitally on the One. Fell off it pretty early on twice. I don't get the hype for this game. It's clunky AF. π€·π»ββοΈ
Re: Random: Xbox Recreates Neo's Bathtub Scene From The Matrix Resurrections Trailer
Dynamic Matrix background, that would be nice!
Re: Modder Claims You Can Use A Standard SSD In The Xbox Series X|S Expansion Card Slot
Interesting. I'm sure we will see more storage options going forward though so no hacky solutions will be required.
I must say that the two 1tb expansion cards that I own (one in my X, one in my S) have been great, plug and play, an elegant solution.
Re: Interestingly, Tales Of Arise Doesn't Support Smart Delivery On Xbox
This is a crap solution, the only thing its good for is cheevo hunting. I assume it'll be two separate save files too, just silly.
Thankfully, there is zero chance that this becomes the main way of doing things going forward, I doubt we'll see it again in more than a handful of titles, MS have already created the solution for this.
Also, the planet isn't gonna thank them for this, and neither will I. Smart Delivery is great and digital distribution is now, not even the future.
Re: Grand Theft Auto V On Next-Gen Is Looking Exactly The Same, Delayed Until 2022
Yawn. Rockstar are becoming a one trick pony, and the trick is 8 years old now!
Move on!
Re: Random: Can You Believe It's Been One Year Since The Iconic Xbox Series S Leak?
Love my Series S.
What a great purchase it was. Highly recommend it to anybody considering picking one up.
Re: Older Xbox Controllers To Receive 'Next-Gen' Firmware Update
That's very cool.
It's a shame that all xb1 controllers can't support this though, the original elite will miss out on this. Ah well.
Re: Global Chip Shortage Could Last Until 2023, Says Japanese Tech Giant
This really is a shame as I'm enjoying my XSX & XSS so much.
A chip shortage won't hurt as much as it would have in the past though, at least many will have the option of Xcloud to fill in in the meantime.
Re: Hyperkin Is Bringing Back The Original Xbox Duke Controller
I bought the last Duke remake, the green one. I've often felt since then that maybe I should have picked up the classic black one instead. Maybe now's my chance.
Re: Xbox Fans Call Out 'Activision's Greed' Over Call Of Duty Digital Prices
@Widey85 Well to be fair if you play for example Black Ops on an Xbox One or newer console it is enhanced. Better frame rate, better texture filtering, faster loading, improved native hardware scaling, native video and picture capture, native streaming. So I'd say it's a much much improved experience compared to playing it on the 360.
Granted all this is offered by the console itself rather than Activision themselves, but still true.
Totally agree on the multiplayer issues, they should patch their games, as mentioned in one of my comments too.
Re: Xbox Fans Call Out 'Activision's Greed' Over Call Of Duty Digital Prices
@Richnj I don't see how your Gamepass analogy and my comments actually align tbh.
I'm glad you called out Nintendo though, they are the absolute worst in this aspect.
Re: Xbox Fans Call Out 'Activision's Greed' Over Call Of Duty Digital Prices
@NEStalgia I'm not saying that we should embrace it, it's just an apples and oranges comparison.
Nintendo do this all the time, high prices, both digital and physical, rarely discounted and not by much when they are. They get a free pass, cos Nintendo, Activision don't because they are a scummy company.
I went digital in about 2015 and the benefits, no clutter, no risk of damaged discs, a library with me wherever I log in, game sharing (although I don't currently do that, but others enjoy this feature), no disc swapping, better for the planet, well it's revolutionary.
I think it's a much superior experience and I don't mind paying a premium for it. Physical media isn't gonna be with us forever, times have changed.
Surely everyone on here uses Spotify?! What a great product it is. Of course it's questionable how good it is for the artists.... That's a different matter. Hopefully Gamepass has a fairer business model.
Re: Xbox Fans Call Out 'Activision's Greed' Over Call Of Duty Digital Prices
Unpopular opinion ahead!
I think the problem is we've all become accustomed to physical media dropping in price as the product ages, that's only because shelf space is premium and they need to put new stock in place.
We are in a digital era and have to adjust that thought process. COD, love it or hate it is a top franchise and Activision has every right to protect their IP and keep it as a 'premium' product. Apple do this, Disney do this.
To be fair, if you put aside the fact that you can buy a used disc for half these sale prices (of course you can, it's a second hand product!) the games are being offered at quite a large discount. They have also been offered at a larger discount in the past, that's when I purchased them.
Now, the issue of the games being full of hackers is absolutely a massive problem. They are selling a premium product, they should offer premium support. The games should be patched.
Re: Xbox 360 Gamerpics Are Getting 'Fixed' For Xbox One, Series X|S
@TheIronChimp I had been thinking about this too, but I actually don't think it would be a ton of work, a similar solution to the 360 Gamerpic one discussed here should work.
Re: Xbox Becomes Official Partner Of The England Football Teams
This is a great sponsorship deal and I am personally very pleased to see this.
In the UK Xbox has had a huge problem for a long time whereby their brand is not anywhere, whereas you could walk down the street and see busses with PlayStation adverts on, billboards, people in PS branded gear.
This needs to change, to a lot of people 'PlayStation' means 'game console'.
For a while, during the 360 era, Xbox actually had the mainstream mindshare, but it's it's completely gone here. This is a good start. More adverts, more sponsoring events and sport.
Re: Xbox 360 Gamerpics Are Getting 'Fixed' For Xbox One, Series X|S
@LocalPenguin Absolutely, giving respect to their history and knowing that nostalgia is a powerful thing. I personally love this.