100+, not including DLCs, non-backwards 360 games, or the few instances where buying 1 game gave you others, like KI Definitive coming with KI Classic 1 & 2 or the ones that come with the Rare Replay.
So we're berating Ubisoft for The Crew being online-only, but most people here were A-Okay with the new Forza being online-only which means it has the same fate?
Kinda sad that I almost have all these after only a year, but it's to be expected with no new games being made BC and only a few getting added every-other sale. The bulk of them are the CoD games which I'm hoping go a liiittle lower after the merger... but the opposite will probably happen with how much Microsoft spent. Sadge.
I don't need to be a game developer to tell you got lazy with Starfield. Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Skyrim - these games reused assets to make different dungeons and locations, but Starfield flat out copy-pasted the same half-dozen dungeons layouts and locations hundreds of times. Same thing with the planet geography features, a half dozen of them copy-pasted hundreds of times. That's neither interesting or realistic. There's still a good game in there, but it would need a game changing update & massive expansion like Liberty City to reach that point. And I'm doubtful Bethesda can deliver something like that anymore.
Doubtful of it's accuracy considering it got how many Achievements I had unlocked in a game wrong. And it's not like it was recent, last one I got for that game was in early July. IDK how you mess that up.
For the bigger companies like Sega, SE, Capcom, & Bandai there's not really any reason for them not too. (Still on Super Copium Bandai will give Xbox Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition.) However, for more modest sized devs, it's up to Microsoft to convince or prove to them it's worth their limited resources.
Yeah, started for me 2 days ago. Think is the end of me caring about Rewards or GPU. Gonna have to consider if Core is worth having either with how little I play online and not caring about any of my Games with Gold.
Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, & Shinobi are big surprises. After Streets of Rage 4 was done and recieved so well alongside the revival of Beat 'Em Ups in general, another one and a new Golden Axe are not as surprising, but still, amazing news.
Did this really need a Remake when it's already on current Platforms? How many times do they expect people to play through the same game? At least with Skyrim there's dozens of different ways to replay the game.
It's amazing and tragic they put so much effort into things 0.01% of players will ever see, but not into the core gameplay to make more players want to experience it.
Hopefully they give the list in advance like they did with this year's Black Friday Sale. Knowing beforehand during this time of year especially is better for budgeting.
GPU really needs to have more discounts like this & the High on Life Bundle more frequently. Unlike the slight discount across everything on GPU they're worth keeping a Sub for. Though it goes without saying they should either last a bit longer or at least be announced the day before.
@Widey85 And? You're playing co-op. Whether it's doing objectives, exploring, or just messing around, you're gonna be in the same general area as the other players. Even if not, 343 already made a solution to it in their first game by teleporting other players to another if they get too far apart.
It was okay, but every time I boot it up within a few minutes I'm thinking 'wow, I'd rather be playing Fallout 4 instead'. Because they took the 'empty by design' idea a little too far 'n stripped way too many things in an attempt streamline it.
At this point just have the Bing Daily Set, the GPU Quests, & using the store being the ways to get points, bump them up appropriately, and end the rest, instead of killing the program and any remaining interest in it by a thousand cuts.
This'll be the only chance I give Infinite. Did not care with the story/campaigns starting with 4, and from all I've seen of the Multiplayer it looks more concerned with being an eSport than being stupid 'n fun. I'd think it hard to mess this up, but there's only one way to find out.
@InterceptorAlpha It's the same reason they ended the Backwards Compatibility program - they felt Game Pass was more than enough 'n axed it. Who could imagine why such a short sighted company will be the eternal Third Place console maker.
"We aim to grow in ways that continue to provide value to our members." Well obviously not considering you only go about finding ways to reduce the value if not flat out remove it. Microsoft's word is trash anyways, "we have no plans to close the 360 store in the foreseeable future", and then the foreseeable future ended a month later.
It's the fault of both parties if it's a nothing burger. The exec should know this will just create speculation and disappointment causing backlash, and the fans should speculate but not look too deep into it, let alone believe their own speculations and get mad when it's nothing.
@rustyduck Only games that aren't F2P and therefore would need Core/Gold for me are the MCC and Garden Warfare, the former I can never find lobbies with the specific Game Modes I want and the latter sadly no one really plays. And my main Co-op buddy's got less time than ever, so that's not really a factor either.
There's been a crazy amount of cuts just this month alone, and it's a lot of points gone overall with increased amount of effort needed... think this is where I stop bothering and downgrade to Core. But even that I'll have to consider, since I don't think I play online enough to justify that, and I own all the games I care about in its lineup.
@VokDaWiibSlayer Ironic that everything you say in that Comment applies to yourself. "Waah waah, people don't like the same game as me!" Okay, and? Grow up yourself and stop whining that people don't have your identical taste. Accept that people have different opinions and stop stomping your feet 'n screaming like a toddler.
It could very well be new Killer Instinct characters/content given the new Anniversary Edition & random balance patch that came out of nowhere. Would seem kinda pointless to make all these changes without adding more than 'holiday cosmetics'. Lot of people saying BG3 release date, but I'm hoping for them to drop the Series Enhanced update for Fallout 4.
'Empty by design' is a good way to describe the whole experience TBH... everything is just so hollow and boring. But when it comes to that design concept, it only works when you have a few densely packed areas. But in Starfield, there's just nothing, even on the planets you'd expect to have heavy human habitation. If there were a few planets with massive habitation, a few with scattered settlements, & a bunch with absolutely nothing, that'd be fine. Instead, there's 4 'cities' barely bigger than a stadium, and a half dozen or less named settlements and space stations. Somehow that's all humanity's done, and we're supposed to believe they fought two massive, bloody wars unlike anything seen on Earth? Really?
Never got into GTA. Which is weird, because the 2007 Transformers movie games for DS were basically Vice City for Kids, and I love playing those even to this day.
Xbox had 3 major things going for them this Gen: Game Pass, Backwards Compatibility, & the Rewards System. They ended the BC Program, and they reduce or flat out axe a way to earn Rewards Points every month. All they have now is Game Pass - they're not really getting/keeping as many AAAs or popular Indies on board as you'd hope, and we're only just now seeing some exclusives from all those acquisitions. One was Hi-Fi Rush, which was really good but a small project, and the other was Starfield, which is an arguably worse Fallout 4. Forget them getting Activision-Blizzard - aside from a bunch of old games coming to GP, we're not seeing anything come from that until the next consoles. But by then so much could change for better or worse, so it doesn't matter in the now. And the now is when they need to be getting people back on Xbox. After Sony crushed them last Gen, most people just stuck with the PS since their library carried over. Microsoft needs to be increasing the number of things going for them, and every day is just more bad news. It's beyond frustrating.
I'd be surprised if by the end of 2024 it exists outside of Bing Searches & the Rewards for GPU members-only. The only reason I have Ultimate is because its self-sufficient with Rewards - the second that changes I'm downgrading to Core. Most if not all the games I play on Game Pass aren't full price releases anyways.
"Experience cooperative gameplay for the first time ever in a South Park game with up to three friends or ally bots - unleashing powerful, coordinated attacks on your foes."
This is factually wrong. I'm sure at least 2 of the N64 games had Splitscreen, but Tenorman's Revenge & Let's Go Tower Defense Play on 360 had co-op long before this. Tragic that Microsoft never made them backwards compatible or did ports, as they're gonna be lost forever for most once the digital stores close next year.
Didn't give a release date and the only details we got make it sound like a significant downgrade from the Definitive Edition, losing out on KI Classic 1 & 2 and the behind the scenes stuff in favor of holiday cosmetics. Great announcement.
Still wild to me how much backwards compatibility turned people's view of Xbox back into a positive, and that they scrapped the program after Game Pass popped off. Is Microsoft allergic to having more than 1 good thing going for them?
Well, at least it looks like they're including some of the things that hadn't or rarely went on sale in the big sales now. But other than Dig Dug, same lineup sadly.
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Re: Deals: 100+ Games Added To The Xbox Countdown Sale 2023
@somnambulance You serious...?
Re: Xbox Adds More Perks For Game Pass Ultimate Members (December 2023)
If they wanna penny pitch after the ABK merger, cut these over the Rewards Points.
Re: Poll: How Many Xbox Games Have You Actually Bought In 2023?
100+, not including DLCs, non-backwards 360 games, or the few instances where buying 1 game gave you others, like KI Definitive coming with KI Classic 1 & 2 or the ones that come with the Rare Replay.
Re: A Bunch Of Xbox Games Are Closing Their Servers In 2024
So we're berating Ubisoft for The Crew being online-only, but most people here were A-Okay with the new Forza being online-only which means it has the same fate?
Re: Deals: All 80+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Countdown Sale 2023
Kinda sad that I almost have all these after only a year, but it's to be expected with no new games being made BC and only a few getting added every-other sale. The bulk of them are the CoD games which I'm hoping go a liiittle lower after the merger... but the opposite will probably happen with how much Microsoft spent. Sadge.
Re: Starfield Dev Calls Out 'Unreasonable' Criticism From Some People On Social Media
I don't need to be a game developer to tell you got lazy with Starfield. Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Skyrim - these games reused assets to make different dungeons and locations, but Starfield flat out copy-pasted the same half-dozen dungeons layouts and locations hundreds of times. Same thing with the planet geography features, a half dozen of them copy-pasted hundreds of times. That's neither interesting or realistic. There's still a good game in there, but it would need a game changing update & massive expansion like Liberty City to reach that point. And I'm doubtful Bethesda can deliver something like that anymore.
Re: It's That Time Again! Your Xbox 'Year In Review' 2023 Is Now Available
Doubtful of it's accuracy considering it got how many Achievements I had unlocked in a game wrong. And it's not like it was recent, last one I got for that game was in early July. IDK how you mess that up.
Re: Former Sony Exec Says Japan Publishers 'Need' Xbox If They Want To Expand Business
For the bigger companies like Sega, SE, Capcom, & Bandai there's not really any reason for them not too. (Still on Super Copium Bandai will give Xbox Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition.) However, for more modest sized devs, it's up to Microsoft to convince or prove to them it's worth their limited resources.
Re: Bethesda Delays Fallout 4's Xbox Series X|S Upgrade Into 2024
Wonder if this will break the console mods.
Re: Microsoft Rewards 15-Minute Cooldown Is Extending To More Users
Yeah, started for me 2 days ago. Think is the end of me caring about Rewards or GPU. Gonna have to consider if Core is worth having either with how little I play online and not caring about any of my Games with Gold.
Re: SEGA Says 'It's A Good Time' To Revisit Its 'Treasure Trove' Of IP
Wouldn't be surprised if the real and only reason Sega's doing this is to retain the rights.
Re: SEGA Announces Five New Games, All Based On Classic Franchises
Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, & Shinobi are big surprises. After Streets of Rage 4 was done and recieved so well alongside the revival of Beat 'Em Ups in general, another one and a new Golden Axe are not as surprising, but still, amazing news.
Re: Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons Remake Heads To Xbox In February 2024
Did this really need a Remake when it's already on current Platforms? How many times do they expect people to play through the same game? At least with Skyrim there's dozens of different ways to replay the game.
Re: Did You Know? Starfield's 'New Game+' Features Some Crazy Potential Scenarios
It's amazing and tragic they put so much effort into things 0.01% of players will ever see, but not into the core gameplay to make more players want to experience it.
Re: Xbox's 'Largest' Sale Of 2023 Begins Next Week, 1400+ Games Included
Hopefully they give the list in advance like they did with this year's Black Friday Sale. Knowing beforehand during this time of year especially is better for budgeting.
Re: Xbox Winter Demo Event 2023 Now Live, 30+ Games Available
How does a Demo for Pinball FX work when the game is free and all the boards have Trials?
Re: EA Has Discounted Some Massive Games By 90% On Xbox This Week
GPU really needs to have more discounts like this & the High on Life Bundle more frequently. Unlike the slight discount across everything on GPU they're worth keeping a Sub for. Though it goes without saying they should either last a bit longer or at least be announced the day before.
Re: Starfield 'A Tremendous Hit' And One Of Xbox's Top 10 Most-Played Games, Says Phil Spencer
@Vulturius It's annoying, but it's something every company does so it's hard to fault Microsoft specifically.
Re: Xbox Is Offering Secret Daily Deals For Some Of The Best AAA Games
@FatalBubbles Sadly this is only if you're a Platinum Member or higher, meaning you needed to have had their services for at least 7+ years.
Re: Firefight Makes An Absolutely Triumphant Return In Halo Infinite
@Widey85 And? You're playing co-op. Whether it's doing objectives, exploring, or just messing around, you're gonna be in the same general area as the other players. Even if not, 343 already made a solution to it in their first game by teleporting other players to another if they get too far apart.
Re: Starfield 'A Tremendous Hit' And One Of Xbox's Top 10 Most-Played Games, Says Phil Spencer
It was okay, but every time I boot it up within a few minutes I'm thinking 'wow, I'd rather be playing Fallout 4 instead'. Because they took the 'empty by design' idea a little too far 'n stripped way too many things in an attempt streamline it.
Re: Firefight Makes An Absolutely Triumphant Return In Halo Infinite
@ParsnipHero If anything being able to make Split-Screen work for Multiplayer and not the much less frantic Campaign makes it less excusable.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Begins Adding 15-Minute 'Cooldown Time' In Some Countries
At this point just have the Bing Daily Set, the GPU Quests, & using the store being the ways to get points, bump them up appropriately, and end the rest, instead of killing the program and any remaining interest in it by a thousand cuts.
Re: Halo Infinite Firefight: King Of The Hill Arrives Soon, New Trailer Teased
This'll be the only chance I give Infinite. Did not care with the story/campaigns starting with 4, and from all I've seen of the Multiplayer it looks more concerned with being an eSport than being stupid 'n fun. I'd think it hard to mess this up, but there's only one way to find out.
Re: Microsoft Rep Issues Statement In Response To MS Rewards Concerns
@InterceptorAlpha It's the same reason they ended the Backwards Compatibility program - they felt Game Pass was more than enough 'n axed it. Who could imagine why such a short sighted company will be the eternal Third Place console maker.
Re: Microsoft Rep Issues Statement In Response To MS Rewards Concerns
"We aim to grow in ways that continue to provide value to our members." Well obviously not considering you only go about finding ways to reduce the value if not flat out remove it. Microsoft's word is trash anyways, "we have no plans to close the 360 store in the foreseeable future", and then the foreseeable future ended a month later.
Re: Xbox & Activision Blizzard Are Merging At A 'Really Impressive Speed', Says Xbox CFO
Regardless of progress, I see them waiting until January 2024. Gotta get a few more bucks out of the Xbox Countdown Sale for 5yo games.
Re: Xbox Exec Sends Fans Into A Frenzy With Random Social Media Post
It's the fault of both parties if it's a nothing burger. The exec should know this will just create speculation and disappointment causing backlash, and the fans should speculate but not look too deep into it, let alone believe their own speculations and get mad when it's nothing.
Re: Xbox Users Appear To Have Spotted More 'Nerfs' For Microsoft Rewards
@rustyduck Only games that aren't F2P and therefore would need Core/Gold for me are the MCC and Garden Warfare, the former I can never find lobbies with the specific Game Modes I want and the latter sadly no one really plays. And my main Co-op buddy's got less time than ever, so that's not really a factor either.
Re: Xbox Users Appear To Have Spotted More 'Nerfs' For Microsoft Rewards
There's been a crazy amount of cuts just this month alone, and it's a lot of points gone overall with increased amount of effort needed... think this is where I stop bothering and downgrade to Core. But even that I'll have to consider, since I don't think I play online enough to justify that, and I own all the games I care about in its lineup.
Re: Xbox Users Appear To Have Spotted More 'Nerfs' For Microsoft Rewards
Never mind, if they're getting rid of even the search ones, the program will be gone before the end of 2024. They want this gone.
Re: Bethesda Has Started Responding To Negative User Reviews Of Starfield
@VokDaWiibSlayer Ironic that everything you say in that Comment applies to yourself. "Waah waah, people don't like the same game as me!" Okay, and? Grow up yourself and stop whining that people don't have your identical taste. Accept that people have different opinions and stop stomping your feet 'n screaming like a toddler.
Re: Talking Point: Will Fallout 4's Next-Gen Upgrade Be Delayed Into 2024?
Could be one of their Game Award announcements. Would rather replay Fallout 4 with limited console mods than finish Starfield at this point.
Re: Xbox Teases 'News You Don't Want To Miss' At The Game Awards 2023
It could very well be new Killer Instinct characters/content given the new Anniversary Edition & random balance patch that came out of nowhere. Would seem kinda pointless to make all these changes without adding more than 'holiday cosmetics'. Lot of people saying BG3 release date, but I'm hoping for them to drop the Series Enhanced update for Fallout 4.
Re: Bethesda Has Started Responding To Negative User Reviews Of Starfield
'Empty by design' is a good way to describe the whole experience TBH... everything is just so hollow and boring. But when it comes to that design concept, it only works when you have a few densely packed areas. But in Starfield, there's just nothing, even on the planets you'd expect to have heavy human habitation. If there were a few planets with massive habitation, a few with scattered settlements, & a bunch with absolutely nothing, that'd be fine. Instead, there's 4 'cities' barely bigger than a stadium, and a half dozen or less named settlements and space stations. Somehow that's all humanity's done, and we're supposed to believe they fought two massive, bloody wars unlike anything seen on Earth? Really?
Re: Killer Instinct Anniversary Edition Update Goes Live This Week
Still sounds like a massive downgrade if you don't care about the cosmetics. But I suppose everyone that cares probably has it by this point anyways??
Re: Talking Point: What Kind Of Reveals Are You Hoping To See At The Game Awards 2023?
The Kinect 3 launching with The Gunstringer: Definitive Edition, Fruit Ninja Kinect 3, & Rise of Nightmares 2.
Re: Talking Point: As December Draws Near, How Excited Are You For The GTA 6 Trailer?
Never got into GTA. Which is weird, because the 2007 Transformers movie games for DS were basically Vice City for Kids, and I love playing those even to this day.
Re: Reaction: Should We Really Be Surprised By 'Declining' Xbox Console Sales?
Xbox had 3 major things going for them this Gen: Game Pass, Backwards Compatibility, & the Rewards System. They ended the BC Program, and they reduce or flat out axe a way to earn Rewards Points every month. All they have now is Game Pass - they're not really getting/keeping as many AAAs or popular Indies on board as you'd hope, and we're only just now seeing some exclusives from all those acquisitions. One was Hi-Fi Rush, which was really good but a small project, and the other was Starfield, which is an arguably worse Fallout 4. Forget them getting Activision-Blizzard - aside from a bunch of old games coming to GP, we're not seeing anything come from that until the next consoles. But by then so much could change for better or worse, so it doesn't matter in the now. And the now is when they need to be getting people back on Xbox. After Sony crushed them last Gen, most people just stuck with the PS since their library carried over. Microsoft needs to be increasing the number of things going for them, and every day is just more bad news. It's beyond frustrating.
Re: Is Dave The Diver Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
Game Pass or no, it'd be buying it. Seen a few people play it and it looks insanely fun.
Re: Xbox Might Be Losing Its Microsoft Rewards App (And Weekly Streaks)
I'd be surprised if by the end of 2024 it exists outside of Bing Searches & the Rewards for GPU members-only. The only reason I have Ultimate is because its self-sufficient with Rewards - the second that changes I'm downgrading to Core. Most if not all the games I play on Game Pass aren't full price releases anyways.
Re: South Park: Snow Day! Gets Its First Gameplay Trailer, Out On Xbox In 2024
@Kaloudz Both games mentioned had online Co-op, and I think Tenorman's Revenge even had Couch Co-op too.
Re: South Park: Snow Day! Gets Its First Gameplay Trailer, Out On Xbox In 2024
@Liam_Doolan Their website under Key Features.
Re: South Park: Snow Day! Gets Its First Gameplay Trailer, Out On Xbox In 2024
"Experience cooperative gameplay for the first time ever in a South Park game with up to three friends or ally bots - unleashing powerful, coordinated attacks on your foes."
This is factually wrong. I'm sure at least 2 of the N64 games had Splitscreen, but Tenorman's Revenge & Let's Go Tower Defense Play on 360 had co-op long before this. Tragic that Microsoft never made them backwards compatible or did ports, as they're gonna be lost forever for most once the digital stores close next year.
Re: Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition Announced For Xbox And PC
Didn't give a release date and the only details we got make it sound like a significant downgrade from the Definitive Edition, losing out on KI Classic 1 & 2 and the behind the scenes stuff in favor of holiday cosmetics. Great announcement.
Re: 10 Years Since Its Release, Let's Celebrate The Biggest Turnaround In Xbox History
Still wild to me how much backwards compatibility turned people's view of Xbox back into a positive, and that they scrapped the program after Game Pass popped off. Is Microsoft allergic to having more than 1 good thing going for them?
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Microsoft To 'Pick Up' Troubled Star Wars: KOTOR Remake
@Reaper_cet That'd be weird if true considering many JRPGs skip Xbox and only Xbox.
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Microsoft To 'Pick Up' Troubled Star Wars: KOTOR Remake
Wouldn't touch it if I were Microsoft without the stipulation that it stays as true to the original as they can, instead of changing and ruining it.
Re: Deals: All 100+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Black Friday Sale 2023
Well, at least it looks like they're including some of the things that hadn't or rarely went on sale in the big sales now. But other than Dig Dug, same lineup sadly.
Re: Xbox Reveals Full List Of 1000+ Games In The Black Friday Sale 2023
@GunValkyria Probably waiting 'til the actual sale in case of any last minute changes and or errors.