
If you've been following the progress (or lack thereof) on the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic remake recently, you may have seen a few comments from journalist Jeff Grubb on the current state of the game's development.
Sadly, it's not good news. Speaking on a recent episode of the Giant Bomb "Game Mess Mornings" podcast, Grubb suggested that Sony appeared to be interested in pulling out of its (timed) partnership with the game:
"It seems deader than dog **** because that game feels like it cannot happen unless it has a partner like Sony, and because Sony seems to be out... with the big funding being pulled, it feels like it's done and there's no reason for anybody to be working on it."
"Now, the reality is that maybe someone, somewhere is still imagining that that game could happen, there could be someone still working on it, I don't know that far, I don't know what's happening inside Embracer."
As Grubb mentioned, it's entirely possible that the KOTOR remake could still be in the works over at Embracer, but following his comments about Sony potentially pulling out of the partnership, we've seen a lot of Xbox fans calling on Microsoft to pick up the project and turn it into some kind of Xbox deal instead.
Here are some examples:
Despite a lot of support being shown for the idea of Xbox partnering with a Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic remake, there are a lot of Xbox fans also arguing against the idea. Some are suggesting that Microsoft might have actually dodged a bullet with this project, and even if Microsoft wanted to put the likes of Obsidian on the KOTOR Remake, it's far from guaranteed that Embracer would be interested in making that happen.
It'll be fascinating to see how the story unravels from here, especially considering Embracer just recently laid off close to 1000 employees as part of a restructuring process. Does that mean the KOTOR remake could be finished for good? Let's hope not, but at least we've got the fantastic backwards compatible version to enjoy on Xbox as a fallback.
Would you like to see Xbox taking on the KOTOR remake? Let us know down in the comments below.
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That would be amazing. I'm not even a Star Wars fan but I loved the original KOTOR.
Could you imagine the online reaction if Microsoft picked up the mantle on this?!
If this happened I can see the reaction now , no one will be able to say they are enjoying it as it will be STOLEN from Sony etc
one of the best xbox games ever Kotor from 2003, it would be stupid not to get that game
I can’t see them picking it up as it’s been nothing but trouble.
I'm very curious about the original KOTOR. I've heard great things about it. Wondering if I should even jump in and play it now or just wait for a new one. Anyone out there who has played it? Let me know your thoughts.
Everything about this game sounds like a disaster. If people thought Redfall should have been canceled I can't imagine why they would think this would be a good idea.
You can bet xbox was shown this game at least once at some point. They know exactly what state it is in.
I don't think companies are lining up to invest in embracer at the moment. Let them prove themselves first or pickup some IP when they implode and are forced to auction them off
That would be EXTREMELY funny.
I don't care who does it as long as it's done properly. It doesn't seem like the developers in place to do it were up to the task. Better to not do it at all than do a half assed job.
I really don't know why xbox fans want to pick this up ,does ms really need another troubled ip on there hands ,or is it they just want to get one over on ps gamers ,there's a reason Sony pulled funding ,it clearly wasn't upto standard ,xbox doesn't need another redfall,they have enough studios now ,how about concentrating on making great original games,instead of trying to buy their way into a bigger market share.
Yes. i'm not allowed to post a one word comment, but, Yes.
Doesn't Microsoft have enough games with prolonged (and in some cases, quite troubled) development on its plate? Maybe focus resources on State of Decay 3, Everwild, Perfect Dark, Fable and Hellblade 2 before picking up after others.
@Mephisto2869 you have to spend money to make money. All the big tech companies (Apple, Google, MS) know this and do it very well. Gaming is worth spending billions on and thats the pride i take in it. Not who or why they spent it. Just that the industry is so robust and full of players and money that it is taken seriously enough to be that important of a companies portfolio.
@Markatron84 who’s to say they aren’t spending lot’s of money on those mentioned titles. We know they gave Ninja Theory loads of cash to do what they wanted with Hell Blade 2. Fable looks to be using cutting edge tech and i see no reason the others aren’t getting great funding and tools to create with. KOTOR is just a big OG Xbox fan favorite and of course they would love to see it redone for Xbox. Likely won’t happen but understandable why the player base would like to see it.
@HonestHick I'm not saying that Microsoft isn't spending money on those games; I agree that they've probably thrown a lot of money at them over the years. What I'm saying is that maybe focusing the money and attention on those games is a better idea than also swooping in to clean up Embracer's mess.
PlayStation is too risky averse for this game anyways and PlayStation players don't even like RPGs
Wouldn't touch it if I were Microsoft without the stipulation that it stays as true to the original as they can, instead of changing and ruining it.
@Markatron84 yeah 100%, i understand what you mean. I just think in general people need to see and read that MS is investing well into its studios and that well game development is hard and it takes lot’s of time to get right. I also don’t think MS is overly looking to clean up broken projects unless they are something that just speaks to an advantage MS has to help the game and be a good fit for their goal. KOTOR has a following, and it would be one at least looking at, but i don’t see MS going around and bargain bin shopping lot’s of failed or near failed games. They have to much talent and good IP’s to work on. 😊
@Reaper_cet That'd be weird if true considering many JRPGs skip Xbox and only Xbox.
Just make a new star wars RPG simples!
@HonestHick thing is as well, financial backing is only half the battle. Microsoft has shown consistently that it also has a problem effectively managing teams and projects. That's another reason that focusing on what they already have on the go - especially seeing as they just added ABK into the mix - might be the best course of action.
@shoeses this is my totally baseless, gut assessment of what went wrong. Aspyr came to Sony with a rough draft of a game that looked like an updated version of Kotor. And Sony was like "what the heck is this, where are the cutscenes??"
That's the only way this could have went so off the rails so fast. Imo
@DonaldMcRonald I don't think there aren't many games that really should be remade. But I believe KOTOR is one that is worth it.
@Romans12 I picked up both KOTOR 1 and 2 on the Black Friday sale. I have not played yet but assuming great game but graphics are dated…
@senote not sure BG3 can be considered a remake as it is an original game just using the BG name and D&D rules…more like a sequel…
Sony just miss manages all their game development, they even destroyed this remake of legendary game. Oh the greatness gamers could have experienced if only Microsoft would have gotten the rights for this remake.
First mistake was having a porting company Aspyr do it. Their ports have been hit or miss. If Microsoft did take it, it obviously should go back to Obsidian.
I wouldn’t mind Microsoft picking up KOTOR, but only if they feel like they can do something with it. If Sony did pull out, it was probably for good reason so I’m guessing Microsoft would have to start over from scratch. Obsidian does great with RPGs. They would be my pick.
@Romans12 I replay them once a year at least. Especially the second game. I'd go for it. The xbox backwards compatibility releases play better than modern switch versions too.
Makes sense for MS to pick this up if its dead - but I can image the minute they sniffed around the idea then Sony would do something to stop that happening - whether that be to pay to keep the exclusivity going or put the money in to get it completed.
@senote agreed… feels like the console version of 1&2 were to get it out there and 3 was a work of love…. Will be interesting to see if a 4 ever comes out or if Larian tries their hand at something else….like KOTOR
Would be interesting even besides the originally on Xbox. I think Sony and Disney thought oh Aspyr can do it. Uh same reason Sly Theives in Time exists is Sanzaru did the remasters/pitched one (weren't getting that from Mass Media, Bluepoint or others though of the time of port studios), yeah big jump there but also company with other games under their belt not oh ports to many platforms 'only' like Aspyr I think or the skills/how many people/expectations of the studio are different among the companies.
Sony gave Firesprite Horizon Call of the Mountain for PSVR? When they made the Persistence. I think some studios can do things but others can't no doubt.
Microsoft could, Nintendo with Switch 2 'maybe' but even then the original is on Switch 1, mobile and Xbox BC anyway.
Or a third party with enough money/better management/expectations to set for a studio not Aspyr's scale I think.
Obsidian had a hand yes in 2 right? Or online (or that was Bioware I forget which did which) but either way while they seem busy they can like Insomniac do multiple projects really well and have great skills/teamwork/management to get projects done in certain period of time/probably do their research. Like with Grounded they'd never made a survival game before, Nightingale with old Bioware staff (besides the rhythm game studio I forget the name of) did their research likely. They just know and plan things out better/spend their time well.
Getting studios like that is rare though and it's also not surprising they got bought up either besides just probably good business partnerships in the past on older PS/Xbox consoles and due to the hardware to work with/expectations of the studios.
It's why Monolith Soft for Xenoblade are so good at assisting Nintendo games so much besides making Xenoblade I won't put them on the same level but they still do a good job.
Aspyr may have wanted to or they may not have even if had the license with Disney to be able to.
I doubt this game would sell that well these days anyway, don't get me wrong it definitely wouldn't flop but its never getting anywhere near Spiderman levels. Why would Sony want to invest money into this when it would probably sell less than Ubisoft's star wars game and Sony would be better off just investing their money into one of their own Ip's.
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I'd be down for them to as long it was a proper remake with the same gameplay and not some totally different game with KotOR slapped on it like the Final Fantasy VII remake is. That's still own of my biggest disappointments in gaming. And I've had quite a few.
Given the development limbo many games are in at Xbox atm, I wouldn’t expect to see a ‘Microsoft Kotor’ actually out until maybe near a decade from now on the next Xbox (if there is one 😕).
Would prefer Xbox to focus on actually getting out the games they first announced Four years ago.
I'd be down but Microsoft already have tons of legendary series under their name they just doing nothing with and instead just keep on buying more amd more and more I'm afraid if they do pick up the project we may never see it. I know it's the worst case scenario but that's just the way my mind thinks I always see the worst outcome of everything
That would be a dream come true. I played these games 10 or so years after their launches and they're are both in my top 25 games ever.
@Lup Same, the only thing star wars i liked. I've never seen the movies, never been interested in watching them. But the game on the OG xbox was one of the best games i have ever played.
What comes out first, this, or Abandoned?
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