I see no problem with microsoft releasing games on other platforms, but I'm not sure I will buy another Xbox in the future. Thanks to game pass, my library is quite small after 4 four years with my series X, so it won't hurt me leaving Xbox behind.
It will be nice, but Watch Dogs 2 should get the same treatment, not only with a 60 fps option, but also improving resolution on xbox consoles. It's a blurry mess right now.
In Brazil, it gone really down. A R$ 30 gift card has been 10300 points and now it's 7500. But I could not reddeem one through the Bing App on my phone, it doesn't end the process. I'll try on the console later.
If nothing else has been "set in stone" apart from Hi-Fi and SoT, so it means that other games being ported to other platforms are really been considered? Because that's what I get from this.
We, consumers, are not as important to these companies as their shareholders. If going multiplat makes the shareholders happy/happier, bringing better results, Microsoft will go that way. An if it succeeds, Sony's shareholders will want the same. These people don't care about who's losing exclusives or not.
Microsoft releases their products on competitors' platforms, like Office for MacOS and Android, or sell services such as Azure servers for Sony and Nintendo and others. And Office and Servers are their biggest revenues. It's only natural for them to release Xbox products on as many platforms as possible. Screw us.
According to SteamSpy, Modern Warfare II has at least 10 million players. If we consider it's 70$ price tag and that it already surpassed 1 Bi in revenue, it seems that the main platform is PC, not Playstation.
@trev666 oh man, the day embracer announced the deal I was pretty sad, won't lie. I love Deus Ex and would love to play them on game pass.
Not that I don't understand this deal, I do. COD is huge, Activision's mobile games are huge too. But I don't care about their games anymore. It's a deal that brings nothing for me, differently from bethesda's.
And if this deal does not go through, it can be much worse for sony. I pretty much agrre with Jez Corden, from Windows Central:
"Microsoft could quite easily create a climate where PlayStation gamers end up deprived of more games than they would have been had Microsoft simply been allowed to complete its acquisition — and there would be little regulators could do to step in here since it would be just business deals between two free companies.
I wrote previously that Sony knows Microsoft won't remove Call of Duty from PlayStation. Minecraft exists as a prime example, pulling in a ton of cash from remaining on PlayStation, and moreover, it isn't the bad guy. Microsoft was hammered by the media for taking a timed exclusivity deal on 2015's Rise of the Tomb Raider a few years back, and it hasn't revisited that approach since. However, this whole ordeal could leave it with little choice if it's to remain competitive.
The message regulators could end up sending here is "do business like Sony." While telling Activision employees, "no, you don't deserve better." It also tells fans of Activision's back catalog to accept the endless cycle of Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, to keep the money coming. It suggests little hope for Starcraft, Guitar Hero, Prototype, or other classic franchises to return.
Perhaps most egregiously of all, the CMA seems hellbent on preventing consumers from getting a better deal with Xbox Game Pass — despite the fact that's the body's entire reason for existing. The CMA says PC and Xbox gamers should have to pay $70 for Call of Duty instead of $10. And why? Simply because the market leader opted out of competing. It amounts to a dereliction of duty at best, but that seems to be par for the course every time a government body takes even the vaguest interest in the video game industry.
But hey, if that's what regulators want, Microsoft might play its game. If Microsoft is forced to compete on Sony's terms, it could be a world Sony may find itself regretful to be in."
@Sol4ris Could not agree more with you. Microsoft could have bought a lot of other companies with that money. They could have bought those Square Enix studios for 300M and get Deus Ex, Tomb Raider and more.
@BrilliantBill I couldn't agree more about Digital Foundry. People rely too much on their analysis and go crazy and say it's unacceptable when a game goes below 60 fps, like 57-58 fps, or the resolution is below what they think is right.
Just look at the steam hardware survey. Many people still using weak gpus to play, even integrated ones, and devs have to scale games down for them. Not everyone is buying a brand new Geforce RTX. And more than 30% are using a 6-core cpu!
But what bothers me most is that all those upscaling techniques currently used for PC games could also be used on console games, but it's not happening. Not DLSS, obviously, bur FSR and Unreal 5 tools are already available. There's no need to waste cpu/gpu time to create a 4k image (or 1440p, for SS).
Deathloop already uses FSR for its PC version, meanwhile PS5 and Xbox series don't.
"It is also necessary to consider that, as Call of Duty is an “essential” game, as defended by Sony, then the Nintendo Switch would probably not be able to compete effectively in the market, since no title in the franchise was released for the platform (until the moment). What can be observed, however, is that the Nintendo console has been showing a good sales performance since its launch in 2017, having even surpassed the numbers of the recently launched PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S in 2021, according to estimates."
The way CADE and Brazil in general operates is very nice, very open, and shows how it really works in real world. They listened all the involved players in the market, saw Sony was the only one crying, for no reason, and decided in favor of the merger.
Of course, corruption still exists, but it's problem that will take time to resolve. But this level of transparency is something we don't see in more developed countries.
"UPDATE 5pm UK: In a statement to Eurogamer, a Microsoft spokesperson has addressed Sony's statement: "It makes zero business sense for Microsoft to remove Call of Duty from PlayStation given its market leading console position.""
I believe the acquisition will go through, but it will be worse if it won't. I can see an "exclusive war" happening, with MS using plenty of those 70 bi to get as much content to game pass as possible. Sony/Jim will only get those japanese companies that never release anything on Xbox. Maybe MS could even buy "smaller" companies, "Capcom-sized" ones, just like Embracer did with Eidos/Crystal/etc, that no regulation was needed.
I was thinking to myself: Wouldn't it be even worse if the deal fails? Because Activision surely would be bought by a chinese company or Amazon, and microsoft would have 70 bi to spend, buying exclusiveness of games, just like Sony already does, sparking an "exclusive wars" that Sony would not win.
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Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
I see no problem with microsoft releasing games on other platforms, but I'm not sure I will buy another Xbox in the future. Thanks to game pass, my library is quite small after 4 four years with my series X, so it won't hurt me leaving Xbox behind.
Re: Ubisoft Hints At Potential 60FPS Xbox Update Coming To Assassin's Creed Syndicate
It will be nice, but Watch Dogs 2 should get the same treatment, not only with a 60 fps option, but also improving resolution on xbox consoles. It's a blurry mess right now.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Noticing Subtle Price Changes For Microsoft Rewards
@AlwaysPlaying Thanks, mate! Tried on Edge and it worked
Re: Xbox Fans Are Noticing Subtle Price Changes For Microsoft Rewards
In Brazil, it gone really down. A R$ 30 gift card has been 10300 points and now it's 7500. But I could not reddeem one through the Bing App on my phone, it doesn't end the process. I'll try on the console later.
Re: Xbox Supposedly 'Very Surprised' At The Extent Of The Latest Rumours
If nothing else has been "set in stone" apart from Hi-Fi and SoT, so it means that other games being ported to other platforms are really been considered? Because that's what I get from this.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Still Playing Forza Motorsport On Xbox Game Pass?
No, it's souless. Leveling cars and parts is a chore and the campaign is boring.
Re: Reaction: We're Conflicted About Xbox Exclusives Potentially Going To PS5
We, consumers, are not as important to these companies as their shareholders. If going multiplat makes the shareholders happy/happier, bringing better results, Microsoft will go that way. An if it succeeds, Sony's shareholders will want the same. These people don't care about who's losing exclusives or not.
Microsoft releases their products on competitors' platforms, like Office for MacOS and Android, or sell services such as Azure servers for Sony and Nintendo and others. And Office and Servers are their biggest revenues. It's only natural for them to release Xbox products on as many platforms as possible. Screw us.
Re: How To Complete All Xbox Game Pass Quests In 2023
@FraserG Hey Fraser. If I have enough points to redeem two gift cards, can I do it and use to buy only one game on microsoft store?
Re: Dead Space Remake Scores Big With The Critics As First Reviews Go Live
Funny to see the same situation that happened with Mighty nº 9 and Mega Man 11.
Re: Tango Gameworks Announces 'Hi-Fi RUSH', Available Today On Xbox Game Pass
@Would_you_kindly Well, maybe PS gamers can go play Forspoken?!? Maybe??
Re: Xbox Surpasses 120M Monthly Active Users, As Game Pass Reaches 'New Highs'
Meanwhile, PS monthly active users are falling
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/89322/playstation-monthly-active-users-maus-fall-to-lowest-point-in-3-years/index.html
Also: PlayStation Plus has lost 1.9M subscribers since relaunch https://www.polygon.com/23434321/playstation-plus-subscribers-down-2022-earnings
And Steam is bigger than both, breaking record after record of concurrent online players, with more than 130m monthly active users.
Yeah, games sell hardware. But seems like people are buying Playstations for nothing.
Re: Halo Infinite Campaign DLC Reportedly 'Never Existed', Multiplayer Live Service The Focus
I don't remember any Halo having a Campaign DLC, but I might be wrong. Did 343i promised it?
Re: Asus Unveils New Xbox Controller With 'Built-In OLED Display'
@Kaloudz Devs support the dualsense features, so why not?
Re: Forza Teams Pay Respects To Legendary Rally Driver Ken Block
@Liam_Doolan Dirt 2 and 3 as well. RIP Ken.
Re: High On Life Is Dominating The Charts Right Now, And Team Xbox Is Thrilled About It
@TheSilverFalcon @K1LLEGAL Thank mates, gonna download it today. Series X for me too!
Re: High On Life Is Dominating The Charts Right Now, And Team Xbox Is Thrilled About It
@K1LLEGAL What about bugs and performance? Is it better now?
Re: The Best Deals From The Xbox Countdown Sale 2022
@Kezelpaso Bizarre. Thank you Ben!
Re: The Best Deals From The Xbox Countdown Sale 2022
@Kezelpaso Hey Ben, any idea of RESIDENT EVIL 2 Deluxe Edition have a "save 37,50 with game pass" tag? The game is not part of game pass, is it?
Re: Report: Microsoft Offers Sony The 'Right' To Include Call Of Duty On PlayStation Plus
According to SteamSpy, Modern Warfare II has at least 10 million players. If we consider it's 70$ price tag and that it already surpassed 1 Bi in revenue, it seems that the main platform is PC, not Playstation.
https://steamspy.com/app/1938090
Re: Fortnite Analysis Shows Xbox Series X|S Version Transformed By Unreal Engine 5.1 Upgrade
@DaveOMac Nope, only for 60 fps mode. At 120, it looks the same as before.
Re: Crash Team Rumble Brings Its Multiplayer Madness To Xbox In 2023
So this is what we'll get on game pass after the deal...
What a waste of 70bi
Re: BioShock Creator Reveals 'Judas', A New Single-Player Narrative FPS
Bioshock in Space. And I like it.
Re: Report: Microsoft 'Held Meetings' With Sony Last Week To Discuss Activision Blizzard Deal
@stvevan switch is unbeatable, at this point. I regret not buying one when I could...
Re: Report: Microsoft 'Held Meetings' With Sony Last Week To Discuss Activision Blizzard Deal
@FraserG Not on the topic, but did you guys see this?
Nintendo Switch was the best-selling games console during UK Black Friday,
But down year-on-year and closely followed by Xbox
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/nintendo-switch-was-the-best-selling-games-console-during-uk-black-friday
Re: Report: US FTC 'Likely' To File Lawsuit Against Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal
@Akimi yeah, you're right, at least it's not in SquareEnix hands anymore. Let's hope it comes to game pass!
Re: Report: US FTC 'Likely' To File Lawsuit Against Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal
@trev666 Correct, but there will be another 67 billion to spend elsewhere.
Re: Report: US FTC 'Likely' To File Lawsuit Against Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal
@trev666 oh man, the day embracer announced the deal I was pretty sad, won't lie. I love Deus Ex and would love to play them on game pass.
Not that I don't understand this deal, I do. COD is huge, Activision's mobile games are huge too. But I don't care about their games anymore. It's a deal that brings nothing for me, differently from bethesda's.
Re: Report: US FTC 'Likely' To File Lawsuit Against Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal
And if this deal does not go through, it can be much worse for sony. I pretty much agrre with Jez Corden, from Windows Central:
"Microsoft could quite easily create a climate where PlayStation gamers end up deprived of more games than they would have been had Microsoft simply been allowed to complete its acquisition — and there would be little regulators could do to step in here since it would be just business deals between two free companies.
I wrote previously that Sony knows Microsoft won't remove Call of Duty from PlayStation. Minecraft exists as a prime example, pulling in a ton of cash from remaining on PlayStation, and moreover, it isn't the bad guy. Microsoft was hammered by the media for taking a timed exclusivity deal on 2015's Rise of the Tomb Raider a few years back, and it hasn't revisited that approach since. However, this whole ordeal could leave it with little choice if it's to remain competitive.
The message regulators could end up sending here is "do business like Sony." While telling Activision employees, "no, you don't deserve better." It also tells fans of Activision's back catalog to accept the endless cycle of Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, to keep the money coming. It suggests little hope for Starcraft, Guitar Hero, Prototype, or other classic franchises to return.
Perhaps most egregiously of all, the CMA seems hellbent on preventing consumers from getting a better deal with Xbox Game Pass — despite the fact that's the body's entire reason for existing. The CMA says PC and Xbox gamers should have to pay $70 for Call of Duty instead of $10. And why? Simply because the market leader opted out of competing. It amounts to a dereliction of duty at best, but that seems to be par for the course every time a government body takes even the vaguest interest in the video game industry.
But hey, if that's what regulators want, Microsoft might play its game. If Microsoft is forced to compete on Sony's terms, it could be a world Sony may find itself regretful to be in."
Full article here: https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/why-sony-could-live-to-regret-getting-the-xbox-activision-blizzard-deal-blocked
Re: Report: US FTC 'Likely' To File Lawsuit Against Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal
@Sol4ris Could not agree more with you. Microsoft could have bought a lot of other companies with that money. They could have bought those Square Enix studios for 300M and get Deus Ex, Tomb Raider and more.
Re: Here's Your First Look At The Witcher 3 On Xbox Series X, Two Performance Modes Confirmed
@IronMan30 Arkham Knight is a game that should get an update too.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About The Absurd 'Goat Simulator 3'
72 on Opencritic: https://opencritic.com/game/13689/goat-simulator-3
Re: Halo Infinite Developer Talks In Depth About Why Local Campaign Co-Op Was Cancelled
@BrilliantBill I couldn't agree more about Digital Foundry. People rely too much on their analysis and go crazy and say it's unacceptable when a game goes below 60 fps, like 57-58 fps, or the resolution is below what they think is right.
Re: The Sonic Frontiers Reviews Are Out Now, And They're Pretty Interesting
Skill Up's review is very critical, and shows a very raw and poor developed game. That pop in is horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORcvkz9QxqQ
Re: The CMA Wants Your Views On Xbox's Takeover Of Activision Blizzard
Well, they could read the more professional and customer-biased brazilian decision and call it a day.
Re: Many Studios Are Struggling With Xbox Series S Requirements, Claims Developer
@Tharsman And Steam Deck is even weaker compared to the Series S, and runs games really well when developers do a good work.
Re: Many Studios Are Struggling With Xbox Series S Requirements, Claims Developer
And what about the steam deck? It runs Plague Tale Requiem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ3L4Lh2w4
And Gothan Knigths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rE75PCts58
Edit: it's a 4-core CPU, 512 CU GPU, 16 GB Ram, 1.6 Teraflops (or, a better PS4)
Re: Many Studios Are Desperately Struggling With Xbox Series S, Claims Developer
Just look at the steam hardware survey. Many people still using weak gpus to play, even integrated ones, and devs have to scale games down for them. Not everyone is buying a brand new Geforce RTX. And more than 30% are using a 6-core cpu!
But what bothers me most is that all those upscaling techniques currently used for PC games could also be used on console games, but it's not happening. Not DLSS, obviously, bur FSR and Unreal 5 tools are already available. There's no need to waste cpu/gpu time to create a 4k image (or 1440p, for SS).
Deathloop already uses FSR for its PC version, meanwhile PS5 and Xbox series don't.
Re: Did Phil Spencer Just Reveal A New Xbox Device On His Shelf?
@Dr_Luigi oh, thanks, did not realized it. Never saw one in real life.
Re: Did Phil Spencer Just Reveal A New Xbox Device On His Shelf?
That thing behind a Halo Infinite book(?), at the right side of the picture. Is that a series S?
Re: Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Approved In Brazil
This is funny:
"It is also necessary to consider that, as Call of Duty is an “essential” game, as defended by Sony, then the Nintendo Switch would probably not be able to compete effectively in the market, since no title in the franchise was released for the platform (until the moment). What can be observed, however, is that the Nintendo console has been showing a good sales performance since its launch in 2017, having even surpassed the numbers of the recently launched PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S in 2021, according to estimates."
Re: Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Approved In Brazil
The way CADE and Brazil in general operates is very nice, very open, and shows how it really works in real world. They listened all the involved players in the market, saw Sony was the only one crying, for no reason, and decided in favor of the merger.
Of course, corruption still exists, but it's problem that will take time to resolve. But this level of transparency is something we don't see in more developed countries.
Re: Microsoft Lays Out 'Benefits' Of Xbox + Activision Blizzard On New Website
@gollumb82 they're doing this mainly for the FTC and the other competition watchdogs, the same week Jim goes to Brussels to cry over it.
Re: Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal Set To Face Further Investigations, Sony Issues Critical Statement
@FraserG Microsoft said to Eurogamer:
"UPDATE 5pm UK: In a statement to Eurogamer, a Microsoft spokesperson has addressed Sony's statement: "It makes zero business sense for Microsoft to remove Call of Duty from PlayStation given its market leading console position.""
Re: Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal Set To Face Further Investigations, Sony Issues Critical Statement
I believe the acquisition will go through, but it will be worse if it won't. I can see an "exclusive war" happening, with MS using plenty of those 70 bi to get as much content to game pass as possible. Sony/Jim will only get those japanese companies that never release anything on Xbox. Maybe MS could even buy "smaller" companies, "Capcom-sized" ones, just like Embracer did with Eidos/Crystal/etc, that no regulation was needed.
Re: Halo Infinite Local Campaign Co-Op Has Been Cancelled
@Kezelpaso Digital Foundry tested split screen on both series X and One. Take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnmKzYME8BM
Re: Xbox's New Dashboard Is Getting Mixed Feedback, So Fans Are Creating Their Own
The first one with a cool dynamic background is what I'd like to see. I still have my PS4 with the Firewatch theme.
Re: Crystal Dynamics 'Takes Control' Of Tomb Raider, Legacy Of Kain Franchises
This is the deal Microsoft should have made, with all these games coming to game pass.
Re: PlayStation Boss Heavily Criticises Xbox For 'Inadquate' Call Of Duty Offer
I was thinking to myself: Wouldn't it be even worse if the deal fails? Because Activision surely would be bought by a chinese company or Amazon, and microsoft would have 70 bi to spend, buying exclusiveness of games, just like Sony already does, sparking an "exclusive wars" that Sony would not win.
Re: Halo Infinite Players Discover Split-Screen Exploit On Xbox Series X|S
@Nalverus it was terrible indeed. hahaha
But I played co-op a lot with a friend of mine. I think that part of the fun was trying to break the game.
Re: Talking Point: Can You Remember The First Game You Ever Completed?
Mario World on SNES