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@NEStalgia you will make Majima cry

@NEStalgia Majima-Chan is watching.

Interview is old they posted on their Twitter that they will not be going free to play.

@anoyonmus I think Apollo is actually unity. I don’t know about investigations; I can check.

It’s so pretty.

1) physical provides marketing lack of that= lack of marking
2) lack of matketing = lack of marketing

Almost like MS forgot how to market things because they are so big. Social media doesn’t make up for marketing it just doesn’t. It’s a trillion dollar company that doesn’t like to spend money. Then can’t figure out why they can’t make money.

@lokozar the issue comes from a change I think on MS side that broken the MT Frameworks ability to code for that platform as a new game. Existing games could be updated because the devs do have the know how. I didn’t link that video either but XboxEra Jesse said between 2020 and 2022 whatever it is is it happened when MS made the change from the old XDK to the GDK for even XB1 games.

Games that started development before this change would have been fine but games started after would need the new upgraded GDK instead of XDK.

And something between these two kits it’s what broke it.

@NEStalgia @lokozar well DF disagree and does think it’s the Engine. If you don’t believe me

https://youtu.be/8lGvOQ-QVNs?si=zjfLQVzFkVk-NWXy

Starts at 42:48

@Beetlebum91 no I didn’t say that. I said the game doesn’t have a native PS5 version. It still runs with PS4 BC.

@ValentineMeikin Again all skipped games run on MT Framework and to date no RE Engine game has skipped. And no game running on MT Framework has launched for Xbox since 2022. That is a pretty consistent through line.

@ValentineMeikin how else do you explain

No Battle Network collection but they put Ghost Trick on Xbox

No Great Ace Attorney but Apollo’s Justice

No MvC collection but Ace Attorney investigations

MS only pays for Ace Attorney games but not Great Ace?

Literally the only explanation is the engine.

@ValentineMeikin First off if you look at the games that skip Xbox none of them have PS5 native versions. None.

Second Capcom isn’t claiming anything. Jawmincher isn’t not Capcom. And Windows Centeal doesn’t claim their sources are Capcom either.

Third all of those games are old minus MHS 2 not sure of the list just hasn’t been updated with the collections because their ports or what. But technically the Switch/PS4 version of MHS 1 just released like this month and they don’t list it as a separate game because it’s a port.

Forth If you look at the Re Engine games none of them have skipped Xbox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RE_Engine

Finally pretty sure 2022 is when MS officially said they aren’t making XB1s anymore but Sony hadn’t yet
https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/13/22881211/microsoft-discontinues-xbox-one-consoles-2020

They’d actually stopped production sooner just no one mentioned it until then.

@ValentineMeikin no it doesn’t. And it’s more than one game. Since 2022 no MT Framework game has appeared on Xbox. However no RE Engine game has skipped. Including a game like Ghost Trick.

@ValentineMeikin the Ace Attornery games have moved over as have games like Ghost Trick. It’s kind of hard for me to consider this a Capcom issue when clearly they are in process of moving everything over. I just think these skip games were in development for a while. Not recent. And monetary wise didn’t make sense to update the engine.

@JoakimZ why would they do that though? I’ve only seen them step in for games like Palworld that have huge player bases.

@InterceptorAlpha pretty much this. Not to mention the older titles would have been in development for quite some time before release. At least as far back as 2022. To fair the support probably stopped before then that’s just when the last MT Framework game launched.

Also want to point out MT Framework doesn’t support PS5 so those games only have PS4 versions.

Sword and Fairy ._. grumbles

I need to finish that game.

SMT V Vengeance and Octopath Traveler 2

@Altaria_97 I don’t think they would have mentioned it as an option if it was only in certain places.

Now I can actually play this game.

@FatalBubbles I’m a mouse ._. It’s not my fault you all make the holes too big.

@SplooshDmg how many times now is this ?

@NEStalgia @SplooshDmg I’ll probably respond properly later but yes ABK won and yes we need the cage. @fatalbubbles what did you do with the cage?

@NEStalgia that’s just one thing they plan to do. But to have sales goals a for games on a sub service is weird but that’s what they do to

@theduckofdeath I don’t think they gave them a chance to do that though. Judging from the tweets and how things seems to go down this was a massive surprise to everyone. In fact it looked like they were working on a Switch port.

I’m not suggesting they take the IPs because that studio worth is the talent not the IPs. None of Tangos IPs are huge sellers on their own. They also pretty recently were allow that studio to hire.

No I think this was a snap decision.

@themightyant they could have made them an indie studio like Toys for Bob though.

No coming back from this. They deserve all the hate.

COD, COD, COD… have you bought COD yet?

Ori 3 being a sequel would be a bit difficult …

@NEStalgia discord me

@Marxally I doubt it. The game is in the most played and still doing well. They also would have canceled the physical.

@CutchuSlow I don’t think Dring was making it up but what exactly is the context for big? A game with an audience that’s already PC oriented? Maybe it sells better on PS5 because the install size is larger but overall the game should be played mouse and keyboard?

@Fiendish-Beaver sure but I’m not sure those games are going over. I’m not sure of anything right now but the truth is neither is he. He is of course just guessing.

While things are dicey for Xbox right now. Judging everything by one podcast? Eh. I’m not happy with the direction but that’s pretty far fetched.

And the context is that podcast has always be less than positive towards Xbox.

@Fiendish-Beaver the thing is the games didn’t blow up the charts. Well one did and is. These were test games. I truly do believe more games are going to PS5; I just don’t think it’s every game.

As I thought Seas of Thieves is the one doing the heavy lifting. Which tells me they will most likely be looking to move more of their GAAS style games over.

Dring also mentioned in the same podcast MS is less focused on GP which no they aren’t. They are doubling down on that. They just aren’t adding ad much third party content to the service. Looks to me liked they’d rather use their own first party content now for the service.

Again I do think more games are going but I’d exercise caution at taking everything he said as gospel.

Also while Xbox slipped considerably in EU it was actually the console that slipped the least in Feb in the US.

FF13 1/2 and it looks pretty too

@Grumblevolcano yeah I’d like a littler more meat to the stats than what we are getting.

Have the updated the languages?

@FraserG that might be itself considering Metacritic only has 2 reviews for the Xbox version XD

Part of issue with previous shows is took much talking. This one didn’t have enough. I watched the show with a bunch of Nintendo only gamers and most of them were confused on what the games were. Like Sleight if Hand.

Obviously let’s not go back to the talking heads but maybe a small bit of back and forth narration ?

@GeeEssEff they didn’t just help fund it. They own it. What’s being missed here is the cut of the games sales per platform. Moon gets nothing from people playing on GP, but again that’s the studios choice for basically selling the IP.

If I hade to guess I bet the Steam cut is the most money for them even from the Nintendo version. But that’s a huge guess with no facts.

I think people forget MS let Bungie go. The ABK merger wasn’t about Toys for Bob. To me this is win on all sides.

Pretty sure this is crosssave and in order to make that work; you’d need Ms to be handprint the saves. Do people not read?

Unicorn Overlord is amazing and I can already tell it’s going to be a super dense game. I just hope people play it on Xbox.

@Markatron84 old bug they never bothered to fixed on the Xbox version.

Look 120fps isn’t needed for a game like this but this should never have happened. It’s a very bad look.

@NEStalgia and again I say mobile can’t be the way https://mobilegamer.biz/inside-apple-arcade-axed-games-declining-payouts-disillusioned-studios-and-an-uncertain-future/

Console and PC are currently the only growth markets. Mobile gamers aren’t the answer.

@NEStalgia Well you and me both. I’m also really annoyed at how some insiders treated this whole Xbox multiplat thing. I am literally never trusting Tom Warren again. He created chaos and then walked it back. Not that he was the only one, but the worse one in my opinion.

I don’t know where things are going but I’m not going to be with my head in the sand. I just can’t do it.

And this old Dino still buys physical games here and there.

@Ralizah I seem to recall a few years ago when the console fanbase felt the Pc market had be prioritized. It is telling it takes their games going multiplat to get physical releases…

@NEStalgia Well I hope the rumors are true. I don’t trust them. Yeah I guess it’s “Disposable”, but I think it will suit my needs for now should I need it. I can play P3RE on the go then boot up the Xbox for the full deal. Which is where I see the strategy. I do see it because I use it.

I just think that there are too many hands in the cookie jar and not enough patience. Also this rumored looming All Digital Series X is all wrong. I know the majority of users are buying digital, but the S isn’t doing so hot right now. It’s a good box, but like no disc drive. Apparently, they can’t see that as an issue. People may buy all digital but they like having options. Anything less than options, isn’t real. Pity the Xbox team can’t see that.

That depends on whether you consider Aniplex /Bungie a part of Sony. In which case, yes they already do.

Nintendo would bankrupt itself first.

As far as I can see the Xbox version is missing languages that the other versions have. Also, someone did something to check framerate and the PS5 might be running at a higher framerate.

The language think I had my friends on other systems confirm via the store pages.

@NEStalgia that’s the thing the Ms execs don’t understand gaming and any change takes time . Xbox execs get that but money talks.

The entry level ally was 399 which is a sweet spot. 499 is too high but 399, yeah I can splurge

Tablet might be the way but cloud isn’t with the us internet so unstable. I hope the rumored handheld that uses cloud when docked is real. That sounds so impressive.