@SplooshDmg sure that’s probably it, but still it grew even when they forecasted a drop. And that’s over all their third quarters. There are some charts on install base that you Mr accountant would understand better but it wasn’t terrible on that area. Again, I think they know who’s driving the bus and how to get back on the road. I think a lot of that has to do with supply which is low despite what people think. There are people who watch this stuff and the stock is the issue. Not the only one clearly but one of the bigger ones.
I think that’s because they make too many XSS. Now of course then there is marketing but that’s being spent on the ads for the ABK deal.
So I dunno. Maybe it’s incompetence or maybe it’s because they want to appear weak. Maybe it’s neither. But I’d just love ABK not to be a factor, so we can see.
@NEStalgia the earnings call was actually positive. They had their second best quarter for content abs services ever. While that was driven by GP that also means the game sales they get must be doing well as well. The only thing causing a loss was the hardware. And next quarter they aren’t forecasting as bad as they did for this one. That tells me they know what’s driving this bus. They have their hands off the wheel but to what degree is the issue.
@NEStalgia @SplooshDmg that isn’t a coincidence. Their energy and money is going into the deal. Now to what extent could be argued but I’m fairly certain part of the marketing budget is going towards those ads in the UK trying to convince people the deal is good.
Either way even if the EC doesn’t block it. They need to refocus again on the brand. They can’t keep limping Xbox along.
@SplooshDmg eh the appeals process really isn’t an appeals process in the UK. All it does it throw the case back to the CMA a second time, and they rarely reverse their decision. I don’t think they’re clueless either. I think cloud is so new. I think they don’t understand it enough to know what future implications will be, and most people don’t. That seems honestly a sound enough argument, and I think most people could understand “we don’t know what cloud will evolve into and allowing MS to have a strong foothold in a baby tech market may be a bad thing.” Unless MS can think of a solution between then and now, that argument just seems to stand in my opinion.
@Belkan maybe? I think they don’t get a lot of the new tech. The CMA that is. I think they don’t want to approve anything if it has the potential to cause issues. Also a lot of people don’t “trust” MS in general because of past behaviors. I understand concerns I mean that’s normal.
The FTC blocked because they want to extend their power and Khan doesn’t like big tech in general
@SplooshDmg I don’t think that’s going to happen. I just don’t know how fruitless it is. I really don’t know. I do think it’s weird the blocked solely based on cloud when MS could just pay to put the games on cloud and not share. And they specially mentioned they would remedies before but now no. Not that I think it will help just I have no idea how UL law works.
@SplooshDmg I don’t. I want this to be over. I know their case in the US is ver strong. But the UK I don’t know. I also think the fallout from this not going through will an unmitigated disaster. I just want this over and I don’t think it will be any time soon.
One thing I do know is that the CMA just put a target on their own a heads and Lulu wants blood…
@Belkan I don’t know if I’d say that. More like MS doesn’t like to spend 100 million if it doesn’t move the needle for their brand. And it generally doesn’t. For them.
I think this is their second best quarter for content and services. Which is why it’s only down 4^. The original forecast was a much larger loss than 4%z
@Sakai I understand that but my point is that comparing what a child sees as an option is hard because for most kids in the world, Xbox is a non entity to begin with. It does t matter how many games you make for them if you don’t market to them.
For the first quarter of the year in the UK, game console sales are up over 24%. This is entirely down to PS5 (which was in short supply last year). Sony's new console accounted for over 50% of all game consoles sold during Q1 this year in the UK (GfK data)
So? The realty is there is a limitation to the data and to how much Dring can actually share.
Doesn’t have more of an impact. Really when’s the last time MS has done anything like it? The closest was the Persona 5 Royal campaign but I think MS gave Atlus the marketing budget and they are the ones that did it.
Again I love the brand but it has a marketing issue. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t think day to day kids would be as aware. Adults are a different story and the conversation is about kids.
@Sebatrox @UltimateOtaku91 exactly my point. No amount games MS makes is going to change what people perceptions are. This is more a problem for a marketing team to fix. Which is a problem period at Microsoft ._.
@Sakai o.O I really detest “buddy”, you make a habit of calling most ladies you speak to “buddy”. Anyway that’s MS problem. MS needs to market their product outside the Americas better.
@Sebatrox @UltimateOtaku91 9/10 would say the play Switch because of the country not the age range. Most countries including the UK it’s PS vs Switch; Xbox is a non-factor period. That’s not an age thing.. I love the system but the reality is outside of the US; most have no idea what it is.
Yes millions have heat of Mario and Pokémon. But those a culturally phenomenons. There is anime to Pokémon. Either way None are accurate deputations of age and what people actually play.
But the problem is still the perception the player has. And no amount of games Xbox and Nintendo makes is going to change this.
People still think Xbox is the shooter box but the reality is PlayStation is where most play shooters these days. And Xbox right now is the machine for people that like the racing genre not shooters.
Perhaps my point is more clear now, the reality is one thing but peoples minds are locked into the 360 vs Wii era. Unfortunately.
@Belkan @UltimateOtaku91 @Sebatrox you guys are funny.
Roblox is one of the most Xbox games, who do think is playing it? Adults?
You think only adults play sports games? You know because a 10 yeah couldn’t possible figure out the mechanics of it.
Only adults play Fall Guys? Rocket League? Minecraft?
I’d also point to that meme about who really plays Pokémon vs COD. But I’m an adult who plays Pokémon but my friends son a 10 year old that plays COD.
The issue that both the Switch and Xbox have is perception. But that perspective is something the you the person out on the system. I can argue the Series S is meant for kids just as well as the Switch which has games like Fitness Boxing and RingFit Adventure was meant for stay home moms. By the way Ringfit is a very popular game in Switch. Again I don’t think it’s the “kids” making that game popular.
Sony doesn’t have this problem . They’ve managed to skirt around a stereotype for their platform.
But don’t think just because you don’t see it on the surface the system lacks that audience. Open the book and you’ll find some surprising things.
@NEStalgia let me get this straight you want me to force @FatalBubbles into manually labor,. I mean I can… seems a bit much to get sploosh into a cage.
@UltimateOtaku91 same. Although it’s less like Persona and more like Ai Somnium mixed in with card mechanics.
@NEStalgia No one out snarks you. I’m just louder and less cuddly.
@FatalBubbles passive aggressive? Umm no I’m just aggressive. If I ever act passive run the opposite direction. That said I really don’t mind helping. Seeing PS5 mountain and knowing someone wants one.
@SplooshDmg well here I thought I’d found someone that actually is okay with a good old fashion debate. =/ I guess I’ll have to hide now. Or die. Crumble. Yup I have to crumble sploosh hates me …
@NEStalgia well Aaron just said the game did great for MS so I think it’s and internal Bethesda conversation that Grubb quoted. Bethesda still might lol at sales indicators. That’s why it was weird for MS to care when their KPI is players.
@UltimateOtaku91 so far it’s pretty okay. The dungeons are easy, and gameplay loop is a bit slow. However the card Battle and overall combat mechanics are very nice. It’’a a smaller game but I’m starting to enjoy it.
@UltimateOtaku91 on a brighter note, Tango has apparently been greenlit for a couple of games 1 could be an RPG. They seem to be MS/Xbox up and coming studio. I hope you get your Evil Within 3
@FatalBubbles there is where I am as well. A Twitter user named Welfare watches it and there is barely stock. The current thought is that what they do make is going to cloud servers. But unlike Sony they haven’t fixed the stock issues.
@NEStalgia summoning you because you thought the same thing.
@Tharsman well it was easier to say that but I agree with you 100% on this. It was half conversation with half the statement. But yeah LS is Probabaly happy with the GP numbers.
@NEStalgia oh a part of me does think it’s click at. A larger part of me suspects that he only has a fraction of the story. It did get 2 million players, so I assume that for a game of that size, it decent engagement. I think it’s a half picture and Jeff is running with it. I mean any idiot can see if don’t market or technically sell something, it won’t sell. I can’t see how that wouldn’t be obvious. How can you have a sales goal then?
@Tharsman well my problem with the sales goal conversation is that Xbox uses player count for their KPI. That’s the parts that’s weird. Unless they are talking solely about Steam sales, because then it all makes sense. I agree with you there is a portion of the statement that’s missing.
Knew that was happening after they pulled their service that allows scheduled tweets and Elon called them liars or traitors or something. Any bets on when Twitter will implode?
It’s almost like they did t marketing it, didn’t release it in stores, and put it into a subscription service wait
The game didn’t have a physical. There are no download cards for it. It was shadow dropped. And then they didn’t do marketing after. Like it’s not the games fault and this should be perfectly clear with all the good buzz etc
You have to do these things the community can’t do them for you.
@SplooshDmg I can’t play Judgment in English because I only hear Kaname
@Ralizah I’d rather do most things than watch sports ._. I can’t fathom why people play video games about them. I can understand going to an event because of the spectacle but watching on a screen … I don’t get it.
@NEStalgia @SplooshDmg I think most people that frequent web boards get it. That’s kind of why we are heat seeking out the like minds we cans find on the outside.
@SplooshDmg you don’t see a point in Spiderman? I’d burn every copy of Madden in existence. Sports games are dumb to me and take up shelf space for precious thugs like Persona. I mean I think it’s perfectly normal not to like popular things.
@NEStalgia I think you’re being a bit too pessimistic.
They can pull themselves out of the hole. It’s just a lot of things have to hit right. But it has happened for others. Now if they another year like last year yeah it’s an issue.
These next few months are really critical to watch what they do.
That said I can’t understate how much this deal has taken their eye off the ball.
@NEStalgia I don’t know that it cannot be recovered. It really depends on Starfield. But MS has production issues. I follow Wellfare and there just aren’t as many XSX in the market. Not a cop out, they just aren’t. They are still mostly online and PS5s are in atores.
Which is an issue MS is trying to ditch Brick and Mortar altogether and that ain’t happen.
Couple that with the all hands on deck for ABK.
That said Starfield does have the potential to swing the pendulum the real question is which way.
I say this because of BotW wad Nintendo’s Starfield and rescues the brand. It’s going to depend on MS getting their act together quickly before holiday 2023.
@SplooshDmg of course is. Like I said this smells different.
That said I don’t think games of this size skipping a platform should be as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Like people made about the Pixel remasters are comprised of a few people that care, but it’s mostly people upset about FF16. And the reality is they can’t see that.
Regardless of either of our feelings, people are going to make a big deal about this most likely won’t play this game. I mean a trending hashtags. I think we can both agree that’s a bit extreme for game that will be lucky to sell 500k copies.
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Re: Talking Point: Where Does Xbox Go Next If ActiBlizz Deal Falls Through?
@NEStalgia if it’s Square Enix, not the I think they would, but how do you prove Xbox lost anything?
@SplooshDmg see this why you are one of those big brain people. I see hardware sales bad. Content good. Xbox needs to fix.
Re: Talking Point: Where Does Xbox Go Next If ActiBlizz Deal Falls Through?
@SplooshDmg sure that’s probably it, but still it grew even when they forecasted a drop. And that’s over all their third quarters. There are some charts on install base that you Mr accountant would understand better but it wasn’t terrible on that area. Again, I think they know who’s driving the bus and how to get back on the road. I think a lot of that has to do with supply which is low despite what people think. There are people who watch this stuff and the stock is the issue. Not the only one clearly but one of the bigger ones.
I think that’s because they make too many XSS. Now of course then there is marketing but that’s being spent on the ads for the ABK deal.
So I dunno. Maybe it’s incompetence or maybe it’s because they want to appear weak. Maybe it’s neither. But I’d just love ABK not to be a factor, so we can see.
Re: Talking Point: Where Does Xbox Go Next If ActiBlizz Deal Falls Through?
@NEStalgia @SplooshDmg https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/microsoft-is-running-full-page-ads-in-uk-papers-promoting-its-activision-blizzard-merger-plans/
Yeah it doesn’t make sense it can’t. They marketing that but not Xbox. Hmmm?
Re: Talking Point: Where Does Xbox Go Next If ActiBlizz Deal Falls Through?
@SplooshDmg =p I won’t let you ignore me
@NEStalgia the earnings call was actually positive. They had their second best quarter for content abs services ever. While that was driven by GP that also means the game sales they get must be doing well as well. The only thing causing a loss was the hardware. And next quarter they aren’t forecasting as bad as they did for this one. That tells me they know what’s driving this bus. They have their hands off the wheel but to what degree is the issue.
Re: Talking Point: Where Does Xbox Go Next If ActiBlizz Deal Falls Through?
@NEStalgia @SplooshDmg that isn’t a coincidence. Their energy and money is going into the deal. Now to what extent could be argued but I’m fairly certain part of the marketing budget is going towards those ads in the UK trying to convince people the deal is good.
Either way even if the EC doesn’t block it. They need to refocus again on the brand. They can’t keep limping Xbox along.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@SplooshDmg eh the appeals process really isn’t an appeals process in the UK. All it does it throw the case back to the CMA a second time, and they rarely reverse their decision. I don’t think they’re clueless either. I think cloud is so new. I think they don’t understand it enough to know what future implications will be, and most people don’t. That seems honestly a sound enough argument, and I think most people could understand “we don’t know what cloud will evolve into and allowing MS to have a strong foothold in a baby tech market may be a bad thing.” Unless MS can think of a solution between then and now, that argument just seems to stand in my opinion.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@SplooshDmg yup but I think he’s right about the three years ._.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@SplooshDmg agreed. Stephen Totilo posted this https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1651223746923864065?s=46&t=WCDs1NVYEstoCbR4sxq_Kg
Basically there is a way forward in the UK. I don’t know if MS will do it. But he says the appeal process could take 3 years T.T
3 more years …
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@Belkan maybe? I think they don’t get a lot of the new tech. The CMA that is. I think they don’t want to approve anything if it has the potential to cause issues. Also a lot of people don’t “trust” MS in general because of past behaviors. I understand concerns I mean that’s normal.
The FTC blocked because they want to extend their power and Khan doesn’t like big tech in general
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@SplooshDmg yeah. I don’t disagree. I just don’t think MS is going to let this go. I also don’t know what this means in the long run.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@SplooshDmg I don’t think that’s going to happen. I just don’t know how fruitless it is. I really don’t know. I do think it’s weird the blocked solely based on cloud when MS could just pay to put the games on cloud and not share. And they specially mentioned they would remedies before but now no. Not that I think it will help just I have no idea how UL law works.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@SplooshDmg I don’t. I want this to be over. I know their case in the US is ver strong. But the UK I don’t know. I also think the fallout from this not going through will an unmitigated disaster. I just want this over and I don’t think it will be any time soon.
One thing I do know is that the CMA just put a target on their own a heads and Lulu wants blood…
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@Belkan I don’t know if I’d say that. More like MS doesn’t like to spend 100 million if it doesn’t move the needle for their brand. And it generally doesn’t. For them.
Re: Microsoft Will Appeal UK Decision To Block Activision Blizzard Purchase
@Chaudy the US has already blocked the acquisition. It’s now going to court.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
@Belkan the absolutely are not going to do that. That tactic doesn’t provide the numbers they want for the price ergo they don’t do that.
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Blocked In The UK
Theee things but first
@SplooshDmg they aren’t going to sadly be moving on.
1) I thought appealing in the UK was mostly pointless. But I guess we’ll see.
2) regardless of the outcome they need to push in the US because Khan needs her power checked
3) this is never going to be over T_T
Re: Xbox Gaming Revenue Down 4% YoY In Latest Earnings Report
I think this is their second best quarter for content and services. Which is why it’s only down 4^. The original forecast was a much larger loss than 4%z
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Sakai I mentioned that earlier in my discussion with the others. ._. It’s marketing problem not a content issue…
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Sakai I understand that but my point is that comparing what a child sees as an option is hard because for most kids in the world, Xbox is a non entity to begin with. It does t matter how many games you make for them if you don’t market to them.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Sakai and I can quote this him to
For the first quarter of the year in the UK, game console sales are up over 24%. This is entirely down to PS5 (which was in short supply last year). Sony's new console accounted for over 50% of all game consoles sold during Q1 this year in the UK (GfK data)
So? The realty is there is a limitation to the data and to how much Dring can actually share.
But you can’t tell me that a company that does something like this https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/01/gigantic-ps5-marketing-campaign-brings-games-into-the-real-world
Doesn’t have more of an impact. Really when’s the last time MS has done anything like it? The closest was the Persona 5 Royal campaign but I think MS gave Atlus the marketing budget and they are the ones that did it.
Again I love the brand but it has a marketing issue. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t think day to day kids would be as aware. Adults are a different story and the conversation is about kids.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Sebatrox @UltimateOtaku91 exactly my point. No amount games MS makes is going to change what people perceptions are. This is more a problem for a marketing team to fix. Which is a problem period at Microsoft ._.
@Sakai o.O I really detest “buddy”, you make a habit of calling most ladies you speak to “buddy”. Anyway that’s MS problem. MS needs to market their product outside the Americas better.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Sebatrox @UltimateOtaku91 9/10 would say the play Switch because of the country not the age range. Most countries including the UK it’s PS vs Switch; Xbox is a non-factor period. That’s not an age thing.. I love the system but the reality is outside of the US; most have no idea what it is.
Yes millions have heat of Mario and Pokémon. But those a culturally phenomenons. There is anime to Pokémon. Either way None are accurate deputations of age and what people actually play.
But the problem is still the perception the player has. And no amount of games Xbox and Nintendo makes is going to change this.
People still think Xbox is the shooter box but the reality is PlayStation is where most play shooters these days. And Xbox right now is the machine for people that like the racing genre not shooters.
Perhaps my point is more clear now, the reality is one thing but peoples minds are locked into the 360 vs Wii era. Unfortunately.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Belkan @UltimateOtaku91 @Sebatrox you guys are funny.
Roblox is one of the most Xbox games, who do think is playing it? Adults?
You think only adults play sports games? You know because a 10 yeah couldn’t possible figure out the mechanics of it.
Only adults play Fall Guys? Rocket League? Minecraft?
I’d also point to that meme about who really plays Pokémon vs COD. But I’m an adult who plays Pokémon but my friends son a 10 year old that plays COD.
The issue that both the Switch and Xbox have is perception. But that perspective is something the you the person out on the system. I can argue the Series S is meant for kids just as well as the Switch which has games like Fitness Boxing and RingFit Adventure was meant for stay home moms. By the way Ringfit is a very popular game in Switch. Again I don’t think it’s the “kids” making that game popular.
Sony doesn’t have this problem . They’ve managed to skirt around a stereotype for their platform.
But don’t think just because you don’t see it on the surface the system lacks that audience. Open the book and you’ll find some surprising things.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@SplooshDmg I’m a mouse hamsters don’t scare me.
@NEStalgia let me get this straight you want me to force @FatalBubbles into manually labor,. I mean I can… seems a bit much to get sploosh into a cage.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@FatalBubbles well I’m not rich so you’ll have to figured out how make worth my time
By the way I’m a mouse so nuts are a good bribe.
But I all serious if someone needs one desperately we can figure it out.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@FatalBubbles no I want to “help” you buy a PS5 very “aggressively” =)
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@SplooshDmg I thought we weren’t going to talk about that ever…
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@UltimateOtaku91 same. Although it’s less like Persona and more like Ai Somnium mixed in with card mechanics.
@NEStalgia No one out snarks you. I’m just louder and less cuddly.
@FatalBubbles passive aggressive? Umm no I’m just aggressive. If I ever act passive run the opposite direction. That said I really don’t mind helping. Seeing PS5 mountain and knowing someone wants one.
@SplooshDmg well here I thought I’d found someone that actually is okay with a good old fashion debate. =/ I guess I’ll have to hide now. Or die. Crumble. Yup I have to crumble sploosh hates me …
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@FatalBubbles well like O said if you need my help let me know. There are a ton of PS5s everywhere here. I’d be happy to assist.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@NEStalgia well Aaron just said the game did great for MS so I think it’s and internal Bethesda conversation that Grubb quoted. Bethesda still might lol at sales indicators. That’s why it was weird for MS to care when their KPI is players.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@FatalBubbles oo the GameStops have PS5s stacked to my head here. ^^ if you ever want a second one I can get one easily.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@UltimateOtaku91 so far it’s pretty okay. The dungeons are easy, and gameplay loop is a bit slow. However the card Battle and overall combat mechanics are very nice. It’’a a smaller game but I’m starting to enjoy it.
Re: Xbox Issues Statement As Twitter Gets Disabled For Game DVR On Console
@NEStalgia well the website still functions so it hasn’t imploded fully. That better
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@UltimateOtaku91 on a brighter note, Tango has apparently been greenlit for a couple of games 1 could be an RPG. They seem to be MS/Xbox up and coming studio. I hope you get your Evil Within 3
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@FatalBubbles there is where I am as well. A Twitter user named Welfare watches it and there is barely stock. The current thought is that what they do make is going to cloud servers. But unlike Sony they haven’t fixed the stock issues.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@NEStalgia summoning you because you thought the same thing.
@Tharsman well it was easier to say that but I agree with you 100% on this. It was half conversation with half the statement. But yeah LS is Probabaly happy with the GP numbers.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
And here’s where he backtracks a bit https://twitter.com/jeffgrubb/status/1649420498411847680?s=46&t=WCDs1NVYEstoCbR4sxq_Kg
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@Tharsman yes please they do. But I honestly think like you we missing a part of Jeff’s statement.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@UltimateOtaku91 I would think so. Tango stepped up to me to be MS premier studio.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
Tango is expanding found here
https://twitter.com/idlesloth84_/status/1649404653619015680?s=46&t=WCDs1NVYEstoCbR4sxq_Kg
If MS wasn’t happy with HiFi they wouldn’t be expanding when the rest of the company is laying off.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@NEStalgia oh a part of me does think it’s click at. A larger part of me suspects that he only has a fraction of the story. It did get 2 million players, so I assume that for a game of that size, it decent engagement. I think it’s a half picture and Jeff is running with it. I mean any idiot can see if don’t market or technically sell something, it won’t sell. I can’t see how that wouldn’t be obvious. How can you have a sales goal then?
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@Tharsman well my problem with the sales goal conversation is that Xbox uses player count for their KPI. That’s the parts that’s weird. Unless they are talking solely about Steam sales, because then it all makes sense. I agree with you there is a portion of the statement that’s missing.
Re: Xbox Issues Statement As Twitter Gets Disabled For Game DVR On Console
Knew that was happening after they pulled their service that allows scheduled tweets and Elon called them liars or traitors or something. Any bets on when Twitter will implode?
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
It’s almost like they did t marketing it, didn’t release it in stores, and put it into a subscription service wait
The game didn’t have a physical. There are no download cards for it. It was shadow dropped. And then they didn’t do marketing after. Like it’s not the games fault and this should be perfectly clear with all the good buzz etc
You have to do these things the community can’t do them for you.
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
@SplooshDmg I can’t play Judgment in English because I only hear Kaname
@Ralizah I’d rather do most things than watch sports ._. I can’t fathom why people play video games about them. I can understand going to an event because of the spectacle but watching on a screen … I don’t get it.
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
@NEStalgia @SplooshDmg I think most people that frequent web boards get it. That’s kind of why we are heat seeking out the like minds we cans find on the outside.
@Fenbops a broken clock can be right once a day
Which part burning copies of Madden?
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
@NEStalgia if you say so
@SplooshDmg you don’t see a point in Spiderman? I’d burn every copy of Madden in existence. Sports games are dumb to me and take up shelf space for precious thugs like Persona. I mean I think it’s perfectly normal not to like popular things.
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
@NEStalgia I think you’re being a bit too pessimistic.
They can pull themselves out of the hole. It’s just a lot of things have to hit right. But it has happened for others. Now if they another year like last year yeah it’s an issue.
These next few months are really critical to watch what they do.
That said I can’t understate how much this deal has taken their eye off the ball.
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
@NEStalgia I don’t know that it cannot be recovered. It really depends on Starfield. But MS has production issues. I follow Wellfare and there just aren’t as many XSX in the market. Not a cop out, they just aren’t. They are still mostly online and PS5s are in atores.
Which is an issue MS is trying to ditch Brick and Mortar altogether and that ain’t happen.
Couple that with the all hands on deck for ABK.
That said Starfield does have the potential to swing the pendulum the real question is which way.
I say this because of BotW wad Nintendo’s Starfield and rescues the brand. It’s going to depend on MS getting their act together quickly before holiday 2023.
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
@SplooshDmg of course is. Like I said this smells different.
That said I don’t think games of this size skipping a platform should be as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Like people made about the Pixel remasters are comprised of a few people that care, but it’s mostly people upset about FF16. And the reality is they can’t see that.
Regardless of either of our feelings, people are going to make a big deal about this most likely won’t play this game. I mean a trending hashtags. I think we can both agree that’s a bit extreme for game that will be lucky to sell 500k copies.