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Ghostwire Tokyo and Hi-Fi Rush are great games and I'm still gutted about this closure. I just cannot see how they could have possibly been so unprofitable to deserve it.

@Zochmenos It's not objectively terrible. That's your opinion.

It was popular enough at the time to gain a cult following. It didn't disappear as people have been talking about the game ever since and it was one of the most requested backwards compatible games for Xbox that never made it. The characters have been heavily featured via cosplayers at gaming events ever since its release.

And finally, the game has always sold at a high price on eBay for both PS3 and Xbox 360.

@Zochmenos Subjective comment with zero fandom.

I really enjoyed this on 360. Gameplay was simple but fun and James Gunn's writing was superb.

@OldGamer999 The thing is, Series X is only just starting to just show its potential. The amount that console COULD actually do is staggering.

One of my best friends is a QC tech guy for Asus and he's apparently seen some of the next gen console software from Microsoft. It'll be more a PC than ever. AI huge being able to adapt in real time to improve the graphics, load times and create alternate paths/stories. Open to any hardware manufacturers.

@REAVERZINE The Xbox One X is possibly one of the greatest consoles ever made. Perfect form factor, quiet running and amazing power.

My mood towards current gen gaming has been in a massive slump recently with Switch winding down and PlayStation showing next to nothing exciting. My PS3 has been reconnected to the TV and I've been having a brilliant time with it.

The Xbox showcase however has massively cheered me up and it's great to see such an amazing lineup appearing this year and next. There's some huge titles that will be day one purchases for me.

It sounds very promising to be honest. I have no issues with games going to PlayStation at some point because I have a Series X and PS5. But it would be nice to see Xbox really go all out to impress their core fan base and give them a reason to stick with them. And possibly entice those people who haven't upgraded from PS4/Xbox One. Especially as Sony's recent showing was so poor.

I love my Xbox because of the UI, controller and backwards compatible games that I still play to this day. I buy all multiplatform games on Xbox because of this. My PlayStation and Switch are pretty much first party machines.

@MaseSco You may not like the games you mentioned but they're objectively better than these three.

A shared UI could be a positive in the sense that it gets people used to, and possibly liking the way Xbox works and is laid out.

I loved the first game so bought it today from CD Keys for £20 off.

One thing that really annoys me and triggers my OCD is the fact that the two games are completely separate from eachother on my owned games list. H and S. 🤬

I loved the original and played through the whole thing again recently (Rare Replay). I'm probably one of the few who thought PD Zero was great (but that could be nostalgia on my part)

I have high hopes for this and, ultimately, I just want to see great Xbox games being released. It doesn't bother me in the slightest if they ever go to PS5/6/7.

I prefer the Xbox ecosystem, UI, controller and other features, so I'll be there for as long as they make consoles.

I've held off starting Starfield because of my backlog. Can't wait to get going.

Does anyone know if I buy the physical edition from LR if any of the money will go to the team that made it?

@rustyduck "Child Game" 😂😂😂

How about you advertise the game. And Xbox consoles. And anything to do with Xbox in general.

As others have already mentioned, these decisions had nothing to do with Sarah Bond. She actually looked gutted when trying to give an answer about Tango specifically.

Matt Booty is the person responsible for Xbox studios and he's the one who has questions to answer.

Why were Tango selected when Hi-Fi Rush is a 2023 GOTY contender for a lot of people? 3 million active players at one point and critically acclaimed.

Did Hi-Fi Rush not generate enough actual sales after that? Then don't put it on Game Pass.

Why didn't Microsoft wait to see how well the sales would be a few months after launch on PS5?

Why is Matt Booty genuinely stating that Xbox need more games like Hi-Fi Rush (in his description) immediately after shutting the studio that made that ****ING game????

I'm at an absolute loss but my anger is directed where it should be. Matt Booty.

@FarmDog08 I hope you mean another decade or two gaming and not alive. 😂

I'm not going to go into how disgusting and poorly made this decision is again.

It does however seem like it was made at the very last minute. With Hi-Fi Rush just releasing on PlayStation and the Redfall update planned at the end of this month, it looks like this was a shock for almost everyone.

Absolutely ****ing disgusting move by Microsoft. Indefensible.

I have the Kaico HDMI adapter and got it for £25. Will this be that much better to justify the cost?

OG Xbox games already look pretty crisp to me.

@Aniscape This is a genius idea!

It definitely seems like there's been a big impact on sales by the lack of physical. Such a brilliant game so hopefully a physical version appears for those who have held off.

Day one purchase for me. I adored the original and am still gutted it never came to BC because of the music rights.

I remember how completely different the same game would be on Mega Drive and SNES. In some cases, it actually made it worth owning copies for both systems if you had them.

No. I still have 2.1tb free between my internal SSD, 1tb expansion card and 16tb HDD. I'm very fussy about having all of my games installed.

@ShadowofTwilight Microsoft buying a giant publisher shouldn't concern you and they haven't had free reign. They've also been making games well before PlayStation and Xbox even existed so they have credibility in the games industry.

You should however be concerned about companies like Tencent, Amazon, Meta and the Saudi PIF buying things.

The CMA objection was laughable and ill informed, showing they know nothing about the games industry.

I'm glad it's over.

@ShadowofTwilight You can't still be angry surely?

Lots of money incoming.

I don't think that any of this happened Cliff.

If we're just talking about higher resolution, faster SSD and more teraflops then I doubt many people will be blown away.

I think it would be much more interesting for Microsoft to utilise its massive AI knowledge to do the heavy lifting for developers. It could massively reduce the time and cost it takes to produce a AAA game. Or give indie devs the opportunity of a level playing field in creating large scale projects.

It could even be used to optimise games on the fly or create an infinite number of story branches.

A more far fetched use could be using AI to replicate previous Xbox generations so that all games become backwards compatible.

Everybody Loves Ray(mond) Tracing.

@OldGamer999 That's quite a niche Venn diagram right there. 😂

I don't really see who this aimed at.

I'm really glad that I've supported Xbox since the beginning in 2001. Thanks Microsoft!

@Weapon_Wheel I literally cannot remember the last time I saw an Xbox advert in the UK. I remember seeing Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One adverts all the time.

Now it seems like Microsoft has either given up or just assumes Xbox will sell on its own with no marketing the way that Windows and Office does.

Shadow of The Damned
Killer Is Dead
Rayman Origins
Blur
Black
Enslaved
Metal Gear Rising
DOA Ultimate
DOA 3
DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball
DOA 4
Castlevania LoS
Mortal Kombat 9
MK Vs DC Universe
The Orange Box
Portal 2
Blazing Skies
Mirror's Edge
Psychonaughts
Banjo and Kazooie Nuts & Bolts
Jade Empire
Star Wars KOTOR
Perfect Dark Zero
Blue Dragon
Gears of War
Halo Wars

I'm going to be annoyed with myself because I'm sure there are loads more I'll remember as soon as I've posted this.

I have over 800 games installed for my Series X stored between internal memory, 1TB card and 16TB HDD.

I use my Series S as a Game Pass machine so I only normally have about 20 games installed at any one time.

@Banjo- 100%. I have all the modern Tomb Raider games and the BC ones on Xbox and I'd love to have the entire series on one system.

It's absolutely inevitable that dedicated boxes aren't going to be needed in the future. Every publisher will have their own app subscription that you can sign up to and play their games.

What will be a deal breaker for me is if the only option is to stream. I want to be able to buy and keep the games I want to own.

I have never heard of this or fully understand what the game is but those kind of reviews have definitely put it on my radar.

It's amazing considering the original came out 14 years ago and was exclusive to Xbox 360. They've done a great job in reviving interest in the IP with the remaster and sequel.

@eire-shabba I've said this many times before and completely agree. The future is either a hard drive connected to the internet or a streaming device. Xbox will be an app. PlayStation will be an app. Pay the annual fees and you can play those games.

@AlwaysPlaying But Disney/Lucas Arts DID say they were happy for the games to be single platform. They said it made sense.

@Banjo- But if all exclusives are available on other platforms then there's even less reason to buy Xbox hardware. Less Xbox hardware sold means that it's less likely for third parties to release their games for Xbox (including Game Pass). Fewer games available on Xbox hardware means even fewer machines sold and even fewer Game Pass subscriptions. Etc. etc.

Whatever happens it has been handled really poorly. All these rumours have done is damage the Xbox brand in the mind of gamers. People are asking why they've supported the platform if it's all going to be taken away.

I've had time to think about what 'could' happen.

They announce they're going full third party, are dropping Xbox hardware and PS5/Switch will get Game Pass/full price games available depending on the system capabilities. Or they don't drop hardware and release new digital only hardware (handheld included).

They announce that select first party games will be available for PS5/Switch at full price the same day as they're available on Xbox and PC Game Pass. And the current hardware continues as before.

They announce that all Xbox Studio games will be available to play via Game Pass on PS5/Switch with no option to buy the games outright. And the current hardware continues as before. Or doesn't.

They announce that first party games will be available on PS5/Switch and that they're licensing the Xbox hardware to other manufacturers such as Samsung, LG etc. They'll have their own hardware but new hardware is built as a set top box or into TVs.

They announce that the Xbox store will be open to all platforms and people can buy games digitally for PS5/Switch. They'll keep the hardware as before.

It's DEFINITELY either one of the above or some of the above or none of the above.

I'm looking forward to finding out but as an Xbox gamer from the beginning, I can't see how releasing games on other platforms is the right thing to do to reward loyal fans. However, I completely understand that Xbox is just one division of Microsoft and releasing games on every available system makes perfect business sense and will massively increase profits.

I have all 3 systems and have no special allegiance to Xbox, PlayStation or Nintendo's various systems, aside from the memories I have from playing great games on each.

I can only see a negative for Xbox if this is true. If these games are available to buy on PS5 then what incentive is there for anyone to buy an Xbox/Game Pass? In fact, I can see people ditching their Xbox to buy a PlayStation because they'll have the best of both worlds in one system. That in turn gives 3rd party devs less incentive to make games at all for Xbox and even less point in owning one as time goes on.

It's literally a fat tracksuit to becoming a 3rd party publisher.

As much as I love my Switch, it doesn't go after the same customers as PS5/Xbox. Without Xbox as a competitor, Sony can do less, innovate less and charge more. No gamer should be wishing for a one system games industry.

Xbox didn't treat this game the way it deserved to be treated. It's an amazing game that should have received way more love. Hopefully it will get the bigger audience needed for a sequel to be made.

I kind of wish they'd included The Last Revelation, Chronicles and Angel of Darkness too. I know they're not particularly great but for completion sake it would have been nice.