
It seems that every console generation there's always speculation about whether this will be the 'last one' before a move away from dedicated hardware, and according to former Xbox boss Peter Moore, that even went on internally at Microsoft during the Xbox 360 era.
Talking to IGN this week, Moore said that during his time at Xbox, the team was thinking about the future of gaming hardware since around 2007 or so.
"The broader picture — and we certainly feared during my time even at Microsoft — we were saying then, in 2007, is this the last console generation? Do televisions start to come with chips that can play games and you just need a controller? Is the PC, as it was then, a renaissance?"
The interviewer then followed up on this 2007 mention, hinting that it was a long time ago to be questioning this sort of thing. Here's what Moore replied with:
"Yeah, the Xbox 360, during the back end of that. You have that concern. If you were thinking then of something that launched the mid-2000s, what does the end of the decade look like and how long the cycles were — usually five, six years — and what does it look like in five, six years? Are we going to need another? Well, the answer ultimately was yes, but the questions were being asked then."
So, yeah, while there's been lots of speculation recently about the future of Xbox, consoles 'going away' has been a larger part of the conversation for a while. And, according to Microsoft, we can at least expect another very powerful Xbox system in the coming years.
Are you surprised that Xbox was questioning this even back then? Drop your thoughts down below.
[source ign.com]
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It's absolutely inevitable that dedicated boxes aren't going to be needed in the future. Every publisher will have their own app subscription that you can sign up to and play their games.
What will be a deal breaker for me is if the only option is to stream. I want to be able to buy and keep the games I want to own.
I kinda wish consoles do end and everyone switches to PC gaming or handheld. That way, I won't have to worry if a games going to be crossplay or not hehe. I just want all my friends on 1 same platform, so I can play with all of them.
We will probably be saying the same thing in 15 years. "Some day they won't even make consoles."
Even when there is an xbox app available on all PCs, phones, tvs etc. there will likely still be a market for a dedicated box. Sony still makes new models of mp3 players, they even still use the walkman branding.
I'm thinking there will be consoles and handhelds for a very long time.
Streaming games sucks. Waiting times and inferior quality.
Let alone internet and sever infrastructure is rubbish.
@__jamiie Yup and if you loose access to WiFi that's it, no more gaming but in their eyes you don't realistically own it so it's expected why they wanna push it and have it that way only so on that note no thank you, I'll stick with retro/emulation gaming for the rest of my life.
@OldGamer999 Absolutely!
Believe the ONLY place streaming could work today is Korea. From what I've heard their internet infrastructure is incredible. Speeds that make America look like a grandma driving in Hover round going to bingo game.
@Gollum Wish people would understand just how terrible all digital would be. You own nothing. Have zero rights. Zero ground to stand on. Companies hold ALL the cards, while consumers hold empty hope and empty wishes.
If it happens all the ones celebrating for it will be first to complain about it.
microsoft/xbox are just too unstable. has anyone had to ask if there was gonna be another playstation? nope. rumors are starting to say starfield will be on playstation this year and elder scrolls 6 will launch day one on playstation.
plays xbox clown music
@GuyinPA75 Yeah definitely.
@rustyduck that’s because Sony have no fallback. If PlayStation fails, the whole division fails. They don’t have the in house cloud infrastructure that Microsoft have. Microsoft have both the money and resources to diversify away from consoles if they need to, Sony don’t.
Japan is One of the biggest markets for physical still , why ? There is added value in being able to resell the stuff you own. Physical media is lacking on support for distribution. USB movies games etc should BE standard by now , no One owns a disc player anymore. Várious industries are lacking because of this, especially movies , no new revenue for all the people involved when the disc came out
@CutchuSlow nah, I'm not gonna switch to PC ever. I'm escaped PC gaming and never go back again.
@GuyinPA75 yes, it's pretty terrible. They can take all your digital games if something happend with their store or if they just don't like you.
People have been predicting the death of the console for decades, just as VR is going to the the “next big thing”... since the late 80s. I believe we will be having this same discussion in another decade.
I mean, it’s been four generations of Xbox being in third place, with the last two being the digital library age. GamePass is great due to access. I won’t (and pretty much can’t) leave PSN due to my library.
Oh no Xbox is doomed.
I actually do remember those talking very briefly popped its head up more than once around that time. Funny enough, PC was "dying" in 2004. Handheld gaming was dying in 2011. Everything is dying!!!
My prediction is that the original Xbox Series X will be the last console to support physical discs. My getting rid of a disc drive it would reduce the cost and allow the machine to be much smaller.
@AnVold why, what's wrong with PC? It's a lot more customisable and can always upgrade whenever you want.
News from year 2040:
"Microsoft 'Feared' The End Of Console Gaming As Early As Xbox Series X|S"
@GeminiReign you are the exception not the rule mate.
@rustyduck
No one needs to ask if there will be another playstation. Sony already said they were working on it and that the PS5 was almost at the end of it's lifespan.
Clearly showing Phil isn’t the guy for Xbox he’s showing his age and this heavy indie style alone for a 500 $ system doesn’t make sense … he’s from a different era and needs to be replaced with fresh new innovative ideas to keep the Xbox brand strong and going forward not consolidating or giving more to competition
This actually helps to make Xbox'x terrible performance over the last decade make more sense. They have actively damaged their own brand over and over because they are so 'forward thinking' that they can't operate in the present. The fact that they have believed that consoles are dying for over 15 years already when there has been no decrease in the market shows how far they are from reality.
Whatever 'future' box they try to release as their next generation is also sure to fail, because it won't be what anyone is actually looking for.
Nope, the big suits wants you to "own nothing and be happy''
I am happy with my own physical stuff that i actually own and can resell when i want to.
Thats why many companies are struggling now, greed is whats destroys.
And that thinking lets to the horribly handled launch of the Xbox one. Make a lot more sense with that context. Never make decisions out of fear!!!
@CutchuSlow I need a cheap and comfy gaming system, not a boring construction set for launchers with tons of problems.
@AnVold just use steam. And set it as big picture mode on start up. So as soon as you turn it on, it will just show you all the games you have downloaded. And you can use your controller to navigate. Just like consoles. It's also cheaper than having multiple consoles or being forced to pay for online. Online is free on PC. So it works cheaper long term.
@CutchuSlow i know it. I used it as my main gaming platform till 2016. Steam is ok for strategic and old PC games, but nothing more. It's sort of platform there you buy games on sales only, because you can't get them on other platforms for some reasons.
It's not cheaper for me, because I don't pay for online or subscription on consoles. I prefer big single player games like FF XVI. But I pay for online on PC for WoW Classic sometimes.
And I can't use PC as handheld gaming system. PS5 + Switch just perfect combination for me.
@CutchuSlow I mean majority of the big games are cross play between Xbox and PlayStation such as 2k, Madden, COD, fortnight etc. Mainly because they have a huge base. I was about to switch to PlayStation before COD went cross play and the same with 2k so thankfully more games are supporting it
Consoles I think fit a middle. Phones and PC have their non-gaming purposes as they do their gaming purposes. Cloud is fine but even if better resolution it doesn't make me as compelled as physical or a 'internet isn't going or their servers' welp time to read a book instead or my old consoles instead.
Consoles I think fit a middle. Phones and PC have their non-gaming purposes as they do their gaming purposes. Cloud is fine but even if better resolution it doesn't make me as compelled as physical or a 'internet isn't going or their servers' welp time to read a book instead or my old consoles instead.
Budgets are high for sure. Some reveals were good back in the day. Some games ideas were more varied then formulaic as they are now. It's why going backwards and not to the hit games gave me a lot to look into going oh that's possible that's cool.
So I get when hardcore go ah the animations, ah the writing and more. Besides my gameplay focus and going oh that's different and never attempted again or oh that was and it got dumbed down (cough Grid 2008 dumbing down Alfa Romeo Racing Italiano's rewind system/RPG systems, sure it's a one make game but Milestone tried it's better than most shovelware car make titles. As good as Grid 2008 as it's a feature I get disappointed hasn't changed since yet expandable elements are possible. Yet Milestone improves Ride 4 with Forza Motorsport 1 & 2 region system. Go figure sometimes with gameplay ideas).
Casual games with hobbies or other particular appeal exist on mobile or console/PC but will AAA do them no, they want to be a blockbuster or what works. Sometimes you get the Pentiment/Song of the Deep but it's every so often they want to try it.
To me hardware gimmicks or varied genres help me decide a console. Xbox besides it's IPs other than Impulse Triggers which don't get used really, it's a back compat and SoundCloud/Blu-ray player for me. Only certain games.
PS Portal/PSVR2 haven't been appealing to me as much. Switch has with it's variety of IPs in different genres, it's gimmicks that while aren't as appealing as Wii U to me and is just a continuation of Nomad/PSP to a TV it's still nice and while a Lenovo Legion has split controllers (like Joycons) do games really benefit from them probably not but still cool, some like Pikmin 4 went directions I was happy with but it happens.
Some fair points on the business side they have to consider of services, hardware and more of course in meetings. Versus what us customers actually care about. Like mobile/Pocket PC Sony/Microsoft were there then Zune/Windows Phone alongside the iPhone.
Like media focus of PS3/Xbox One they were there watching. So I get the Smart TV side of things but that early hmm. I mean PSP Go and digital only with that small of transfer for 1GB games versus the smaller few 100-800MB games or even PS Minis being small not everyone was looking for them but PSP Go/Xbox One S All Digital, Series S, PS5 Digital they are prepping us.
Cloud has a place but like with Kinect not everything has to be for gaming. Kinect works outside of gaming for tracking for medical. Cloud has it's places outside gaming as it is. I can benefit but we want it as a 'optional solution' not the 'only solution' to replace consoles. I don't want everything internet connected.
I want offline options sometimes or prefer them. If live services already limit things online and we don't get patched offline experiences then yeah your game isn't appealing to me. It already gets patched and does or doesn't stop save file editing or archival of the game. Cloud cutting more out of the local on the console sure they want but I mean eh.
But there is new generations and trends and there is people like me in my generation that have always been gamers, had my flash/mobile look and am still a console gamer and always will be.
I have expanded to other genres, retro consoles, failed consoles, history of consoles. I care about the medium, I care about gameplay mechanics and why I pick up or research left behind niche games.
@TheOfficialJW I don't play any of those games. And there are still some games that aren't crossplay, like monster hunter rise. But maybe in the future, we'll see more crossplay games.
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