@GeeEssEff The strapline was "Another one bites the Dusk" in reference to As Dusk Falls which recently made the jump to PS5 as well. It was meant as a bit of fun... nothing more.
@CharlieChooChoo We're not trying to "drum up console wars". There's nothing in here that says "wah, wah, we're unhappy that PlayStation is getting our Xbox game".
We just wanted to share the news that an 10/10 Xbox exclusive (in our estimation) is also now heading over to another platform... it was interesting to us, so we thought it'd be interesting to others.
We'll take everyone's feedback into account for the future though.
@LuciaThicc The BG3 issue is pretty widespread, yeah. I see many reports per-day about it. It's obviously not happening to everyone, but it's happening enough to be a big problem for Xbox and Larian Studios.
It tends to happen in Football Manager when someone has played multiple seasons. If you look at some of the most recent FM reviews on the Xbox Store you'll see people talking about this same problem where their files are being deleted.
It's much rarer with Starfield, but there were quite a lot of reports about it back at launch. Since then, Microsoft seems to have fixed it for the vast majority of people, although it does still get mentioned occasionally.
The common trend here is that all of these games seem to use large save files, and Xbox's cloud saving system doesn't like it.
@LuciaThicc It has happened with more than 2 or 3 games.
Multiple versions of Football Manager Console, Wartales, Starfield, The Lamplighters League, and others.
It seems to be particularly bad in BG3, but it's definitely happened in a bunch of other games. I know that some of those less high profile ones like FM and Wartales have had major issues with it.
@Sakai I do understand what you mean, but this is a case where our reviewer wanted to give the game a 10/10 because that's the score they landed on based on their experience with the Xbox version.
The decision to hide that score was only because of the Microsoft-specific firmware issue that apparently has nothing to do with Larian Studios - and therefore it feels very harsh docking points for a bug that the developer appears to have zero control over.
If it was a different scenario and Larian Studios was 100% at fault, we'd have to think about the decision very differently. But Larian has stated that the problem is on Microsoft's end and the team at Xbox are the ones who are working on the problem.
Anyway, I do appreciate your feedback and your viewpoint on this, and we may just have to agree to disagree on this occasion!
@Sakai It might have been similar on PS5 but apparently this specific issue is on Microsoft's end, which is why the decision was made not to dock any points.
The idea isn't to protect a game or give it special treatment - we'd have happily given BG3 a 10/10 based on our review experience as we never ran into the deleted saves bug. Our reviewer (PJ) delivered me his score of 10/10 without any prior knowledge of this issue.
It was then my decision to hide the 10/10 score for now, as a means of communicating to our readers that they might run into the problem that Microsoft is still trying to fix.
@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah, I knew it'd be a controversial decision. There isn't a plan to dock any points (because as mentioned, it's an Xbox problem rather than a Larian Studios one), but the 10/10 just isn't being displayed until the issue has been fixed.
Basically, I don't want people to glance at the review, see a 10/10 score, and rush out to buy a game that is suffering from a major bug at the moment. It's a decision that was made to try and protect the reader in the interim while Microsoft works on a solution.
@Nic-Noc20th-C There will be a Lunar New Year sale at the end of January, yeah. The reason they're keeping it quiet this week is because of the Countdown Sale still being live.
@Dan1283 Hey Dan, are you definitely in mobile mode and not desktop mode, yeah? If you're still having problems, could you drop us an email and let us know more details? Thanks!
@Darylb88 @SAHgamer Yep, this seems to be a file size issue. Saves are usually are a few MB or less on Xbox, but Baldur's Gate 3 for me is over 90MB - I know Football Manager Console also has very large file sizes.
Hi folks! Just to reiterate, if there's a game you want to vote for that's not included in the poll (we can only put so many in there), please mention it in the comments and tell us how many points you would have given it! We WILL still count those votes.
@GamingFan4Lyf I agree totally! It's irritating me as someone who wants to play the new £60 game I bought, but if it means Xbox can fix something on the backend that remedies this situation for multiple games, that'll ultimately be a good thing.
@MaccaMUFC I've noticed that on the website version of the Xbox Store, it's eliminating certain deals that I've found elsewhere. It's possible they're not all being listed properly yet (the sale doesn't officially go live until Friday).
For example, the website doesn't list Mass Effect Legendary Edition as being "On Sale", but it is. It's doing this with a whole bunch of games right now.
Article has been updated! The Day Before developer Fntastic has announced that it is shutting down permanently due to the game "failing financially". 😱
As mentioned in the article, this doesn't appear to be anything to do with the game specifically - it seems to be a conflict with the Xbox cloud saving system, which tends to cause problems when the save files for a game are particularly large.
@K1LLEGAL I can't say for sure, but I've seen people trying different strategies with their saves and still falling prey to it 😕
@K1LLEGAL I'm also 5 hours in and staying put for now until we get some kind of confirmed resolution. Absolutely loving the game and really don't want to start again!
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Re: Another Xbox Console Exclusive Makes Its Way To PS5 Later This Month
@GeeEssEff Fair enough, as I say we'll take the feedback into account. We just found it interesting and wanted to share it.
Re: Another Xbox Console Exclusive Makes Its Way To PS5 Later This Month
@GeeEssEff The strapline was "Another one bites the Dusk" in reference to As Dusk Falls which recently made the jump to PS5 as well. It was meant as a bit of fun... nothing more.
Re: Another Xbox Console Exclusive Makes Its Way To PS5 Later This Month
@CharlieChooChoo We're not trying to "drum up console wars". There's nothing in here that says "wah, wah, we're unhappy that PlayStation is getting our Xbox game".
We just wanted to share the news that an 10/10 Xbox exclusive (in our estimation) is also now heading over to another platform... it was interesting to us, so we thought it'd be interesting to others.
We'll take everyone's feedback into account for the future though.
Re: Deals: 100+ Games Added To This Week's Xbox Sales (January 9-16)
@Banjo- It was down to £5 the other week and I forgot to get it! The original, that is.
Re: Review: Assassin's Creed Valhalla - The Best Entry To Date, And A Series X Showpiece
Multiple years later, we're republishing this review now that Assassin's Creed Valhalla is on Xbox Game Pass! 👌 👌
Re: PSA: Xbox Will Begin Deleting Your Uploaded Screenshots & Clips This Week
@Kaloudz Yep, that's how it'll be from now on.
@Vipor007 If you want to format a drive for NTFS, that's something you'll need to do on a PC.
https://support.xbox.com/help/hardware-network/connect-network/format-flash-drive-to-ntfs-windows
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In February 2024
@AlwaysPlaying I can only assume it either has a license longer than one year, or its time on XGP has been extended recently.
As I say, we never get these predictions 100% correct... it's impossible to know exactly what Microsoft has planned.
Re: Xbox Unveils Another Major Two-Week Sale, 300+ Games Included
@Beetlebum91 Ugh, that's awful. Hopefully it feels like a fresh experience on Xbox Series X/S for you with the 60FPS Boost.
Re: Xbox Unveils Another Major Two-Week Sale, 300+ Games Included
@Beetlebum91 It's fantastic as well, my favourite LEGO Star Wars game to date.
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/05/soapbox_the_force_awakens_is_an_incredible_lego_star_wars_game
Re: Best Xbox Racing Games
It's been many years since we last updated this, so we've given it a refresh for 2024! We'll keep tweaking it as time goes on
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2024: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
@AlwaysPlaying There was! Stay tuned for more info on that
Re: BG3 Dev Offers Workaround While Xbox Tries To Fix 'Unacceptable' Saving Issue
@LuciaThicc The BG3 issue is pretty widespread, yeah. I see many reports per-day about it. It's obviously not happening to everyone, but it's happening enough to be a big problem for Xbox and Larian Studios.
It tends to happen in Football Manager when someone has played multiple seasons. If you look at some of the most recent FM reviews on the Xbox Store you'll see people talking about this same problem where their files are being deleted.
It's much rarer with Starfield, but there were quite a lot of reports about it back at launch. Since then, Microsoft seems to have fixed it for the vast majority of people, although it does still get mentioned occasionally.
The common trend here is that all of these games seem to use large save files, and Xbox's cloud saving system doesn't like it.
Re: How To Complete All Xbox Game Pass Quests In 2023
@Master_Cthulhu70 Yep, it's a real shame!
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2024/01/xbox-has-changed-game-pass-quests-for-2024-and-fans-arent-happy
Re: Best Xbox Exclusives
@Scummbuddy No worries!
Re: Best Xbox Exclusives
@Scummbuddy Sunset is definitely still there! It's just on page two.
Re: Best Xbox Exclusives
@Skedaddle Nice suggestions! We'll add a few
Re: BG3 Dev Offers Workaround While Xbox Tries To Fix 'Unacceptable' Saving Issue
@LuciaThicc It has happened with more than 2 or 3 games.
Multiple versions of Football Manager Console, Wartales, Starfield, The Lamplighters League, and others.
It seems to be particularly bad in BG3, but it's definitely happened in a bunch of other games. I know that some of those less high profile ones like FM and Wartales have had major issues with it.
Re: Three Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2023
@Sakai Thank you! Happy New Year to you as well
Re: Three Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2023
@Sakai I do understand what you mean, but this is a case where our reviewer wanted to give the game a 10/10 because that's the score they landed on based on their experience with the Xbox version.
The decision to hide that score was only because of the Microsoft-specific firmware issue that apparently has nothing to do with Larian Studios - and therefore it feels very harsh docking points for a bug that the developer appears to have zero control over.
If it was a different scenario and Larian Studios was 100% at fault, we'd have to think about the decision very differently. But Larian has stated that the problem is on Microsoft's end and the team at Xbox are the ones who are working on the problem.
Anyway, I do appreciate your feedback and your viewpoint on this, and we may just have to agree to disagree on this occasion!
Re: Three Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2023
@Sakai It might have been similar on PS5 but apparently this specific issue is on Microsoft's end, which is why the decision was made not to dock any points.
The idea isn't to protect a game or give it special treatment - we'd have happily given BG3 a 10/10 based on our review experience as we never ran into the deleted saves bug. Our reviewer (PJ) delivered me his score of 10/10 without any prior knowledge of this issue.
It was then my decision to hide the 10/10 score for now, as a means of communicating to our readers that they might run into the problem that Microsoft is still trying to fix.
Re: Pure Xbox's Game Of The Year 2023: The Results You Didn't See
@Fiendish-Beaver Yep, that's correct.
Re: Three Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2023
@Fiendish-Beaver Happy New Year to you too!
Re: Three Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2023
@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah, I knew it'd be a controversial decision. There isn't a plan to dock any points (because as mentioned, it's an Xbox problem rather than a Larian Studios one), but the 10/10 just isn't being displayed until the issue has been fixed.
Basically, I don't want people to glance at the review, see a 10/10 score, and rush out to buy a game that is suffering from a major bug at the moment. It's a decision that was made to try and protect the reader in the interim while Microsoft works on a solution.
Re: All Xbox Series X|S Games That Support 120FPS
Good idea @PopularCorpse! After two years, we've finally given this list a proper refresh and added a bunch more 120FPS titles.
Re: Deals: 100+ Games Added To This Week's Xbox Sales (December 26 - January 2)
@Nic-Noc20th-C There will be a Lunar New Year sale at the end of January, yeah. The reason they're keeping it quiet this week is because of the Countdown Sale still being live.
Re: Two Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In January 2024 So Far
@Kaloudz It was fantastic in the end! Hi-Fi RUSH, GoldenEye 007, Age of Empires 2, Persona 3 and 4, Monster Hunter Rise and others.
https://www.purexbox.com/guides/xbox-game-pass-all-games-coming-soon-in-january-2023
Re: Review: EON XBHD - A Sleek OG Xbox Adapter That's Just Too Expensive To Recommend
@KingdomTears Only 63 out of the 990 original Xbox games are playable on modern consoles.
Re: Review: Baldur's Gate 3 - One The Greatest RPGs Of All Time Finally Lands On Xbox Consoles
@Cikajovazmaj I get your point, but we didn't run into the save issue when playing the game for review.
Re: These Five Games Are Finally Making Us Consider Ubisoft Plus On Xbox
@Markatron84 Thanks for your feedback!
As far as I'm aware, there are no plans. It's an established style now that we've been using for years, as have various other outlets in the industry.
We do sometimes change it up though, such as with the Soapbox features which are specifically about personal experiences.
Re: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Impresses The Critics Ahead Of January's Launch
@Rob3008 Apologies, something went wrong when publishing! It's been fixed now.
Re: After Redfall, Bethesda Appears To Be Switching Engines Again For Marvel's Blade
@Tonmoy Yep, it's not unexpected but good to know all the same.
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2024: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
@Dan1283 Hey Dan, are you definitely in mobile mode and not desktop mode, yeah? If you're still having problems, could you drop us an email and let us know more details? Thanks!
https://www.purexbox.com/contact
Re: Soapbox: After The BG3 Saga, I'm Nervous About How Xbox Handles My Save Data
@Darylb88 @SAHgamer Yep, this seems to be a file size issue. Saves are usually are a few MB or less on Xbox, but Baldur's Gate 3 for me is over 90MB - I know Football Manager Console also has very large file sizes.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@Markatron84 Yep I've seen, thanks for the info!
Re: The Elder Scrolls Could Have Had A 'Fallout: New Vegas' Style Spin-Off
@InterceptorAlpha Ah, I see what you mean! You're right, I'd totally glossed over ESO for a minute there! I'll update
Re: The Elder Scrolls Could Have Had A 'Fallout: New Vegas' Style Spin-Off
@InterceptorAlpha Yeah, he did mention this as well:
"Probably less relevant now that Elder Scrolls Online is going, but at the time, it seemed to be something that could benefit both studios."
Re: Site News: PX Fans, Would You Kindly Fill Out Our Reader Survey?
Thank you everyone! We appreciate it
Re: A Bunch Of Xbox Games Are Closing Their Servers In 2024
@Stocksy As far as I know it's just The Crew and Rocket Arena that are becoming unplayable entirely.
Re: Poll: What Is Your Xbox Game Of The Year For 2023?
Hi folks! Just to reiterate, if there's a game you want to vote for that's not included in the poll (we can only put so many in there), please mention it in the comments and tell us how many points you would have given it! We WILL still count those votes.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Update Includes New Xbox Fixes, But Deleted Saves Persist
@GamingFan4Lyf I agree totally! It's irritating me as someone who wants to play the new £60 game I bought, but if it means Xbox can fix something on the backend that remedies this situation for multiple games, that'll ultimately be a good thing.
Re: Xbox Countdown Sale 2023 Now Live, 1400+ Deals Included
@MaccaMUFC I've noticed that on the website version of the Xbox Store, it's eliminating certain deals that I've found elsewhere. It's possible they're not all being listed properly yet (the sale doesn't officially go live until Friday).
For example, the website doesn't list Mass Effect Legendary Edition as being "On Sale", but it is. It's doing this with a whole bunch of games right now.
Re: Xbox Cloud Gaming Launches In VR With New Meta Quest App
Article has been updated! Xbox Cloud Gaming is now available for Meta Quest 2, Meta Quest 3 and Meta Quest Pro.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Gets 18GB Xbox Update, Dev Responds To 'Disappearing Saves' Issue
Article has been updated with a message from Larian's Director of Publishing about a "second fix" that's apparently in the works.
Re: 'The Day Before' Xbox Release Cancelled As Developer Shuts Down
Article has been updated! The Day Before developer Fntastic has announced that it is shutting down permanently due to the game "failing financially". 😱
Re: Alan Wake 2 Adds 'New Game Plus' In Latest Xbox Series X|S Update
@AlwaysPlaying Apologies for that! It's not something I deal with directly but I'll pass your feedback on 👍
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In December 2023
@themightyant Ah, no problem! That's why we do it
We can never be 100% accurate, but there are always at least a few that end up leaving.
Re: All Xbox Games With Mouse & Keyboard Support
@LiLgamer It will do very, very soon! There's an update coming out for it that's in testing right now.
@CRACKY76 Thank you! It's been added
Re: PSA: Baldur's Gate 3 Has A Worrying Issue With Corrupted Saves On Xbox
As mentioned in the article, this doesn't appear to be anything to do with the game specifically - it seems to be a conflict with the Xbox cloud saving system, which tends to cause problems when the save files for a game are particularly large.
@K1LLEGAL I can't say for sure, but I've seen people trying different strategies with their saves and still falling prey to it 😕
Re: PSA: Baldur's Gate 3 Has A Worrying Issue With Corrupted Saves On Xbox
@K1LLEGAL I'm also 5 hours in and staying put for now until we get some kind of confirmed resolution. Absolutely loving the game and really don't want to start again!
Re: EA Adds 'Immortals Of Aveum' To The List Of 90% Discounts On Xbox
@MaccaMUFC Thanks for the tip! I've updated the article to reflect the new Xbox Store price and current ASDA discount