OldGamer999

Merry Christmas Pure Xbox and all Xboxers.
All have a fab day, with many games to come next year.

Just downloaded and played.
Make sure on series x you turn on auto hdr and fps boost.
Runs like a dream and a 8 year old showing that we really are getting towards diminishing returns, looks pretty dame good and the fps boost frame rate just makes it perfect, smooth no blur panning.

If any supporting Xbox territory deserves gift cards outside of the USA it’s the UK.
Local store now sold of seres x both disc and digital.
UK is Xbox next big country after USA.
WHERES MY GIFT CARD 🤣🎄🤣

@Sol4ris
Totally get your point as well
I’m GPU until March 2027 fully paid up so it’s Series x all the way for me.
Then hopefully next gen Xbox home console.

@Sol4ris
Yep it’s the GPU day one releases that keep me on GPU and to some point series x.
Without day one all Xbox studio games I would not have game pass at all and probably not an Xbox console because some release on PS5.
If Xbox went all Xbox studio games day one PS5 then I would have to think especially as PS5 Pro would probably give the best visual experience.
My point.
Xbox are treading a very fine line, they need to keep some big AAA Xbox world exclusives and not on PS5 Pro or a very bare minimum 6 months to one year release delay on PS5 Pro.

At the moment it’s a good mix and match but if they go full on day one on PS5 Pro then that line is crossed. And being honest would probably see the final nail in the coffin and maybe the end of Xbox consoles.
It’s cool at the minute Xbox but I really hope they don’t go full throttle.

@Ricky-Spanish
All good, I’m right out until March 2027 now.

@Ricky-Spanish
Can’t remember you got GPU?

@Ricky-Spanish
Even better on you new series x
You tried Indy? Amazing game.

What have given a single 10 to one of those games. Some total over hyped and another released with very poor performance issues.

I don’t think I have been so distant more so than on Pure Xbox from the reviews.

If Starfield is anything to go by then definitely something has to change.
As ambitious as the game was it felt it’s systems it’s organic origins where from the Xbox360 days engine wise in its under systems.
Then you play say Indy on Id tech and the under systems seem a lot more modern and fluid like.

@electrolite77
Thank you.
I ended up downloading the normal version in the end.
I’m spending to much time on Indy.

@electrolite77
Yeah £2.99 for me and I have GPU.
Perhaps it’s a USA thing. But being Xbox console second most popular country you we think we would get it for free.

Yep highest percentage Indy 22% and what I’ve been saying for years.
Big quality AAA, that’s all the winning formula Xbox needs.
Second COD with 12% another big quality AAA.
And importantly both games releasing in very good condition with not many bugs.
Big quality AAA will always win.
Keep em coming.

Been doing some next year 2025 game release analysis.
What Xbox doesn’t seem to realise I don’t think and definitely doesn’t advertise.
If you have GPU or even if you don’t to a degree.
Taking third party games out as they are for both consoles.
When you look at 2025 line up compared to Sony with Ghost 2 being their own studio big AAA, Xbox has stacks more big releases.
Avowed
South of midnight
Doom
Fable

They really should advertise this and Xbox consoles more, especially as Xbox consoles has over 50% of the GP sub attach rate.

Xbox greatness is there in front of them but not shouted about at all.

Nothing for me though got plenty to play Indy, stalker 2, COD and FH4.
Then in the order to release 2025 I think.
Avowed
South of midnight
Doom
Fable
And maybe a third party if really good.

@Duck_Farmer
Series x Indy mainly.
I’ve done the Vatican nearly 100% and now in Gizeh.
You done well to do 100%, I will have to catch you up there.

@Cikajovazmaj
I think streaming has its place and that is a good idea for a quick trial.
But for main gaming for me full download top graphics and sound experience.
There is now other way for me to play.

@Cikajovazmaj
I was on big screen 65” QD OLED and it did look ok with Sonys but Xbox looked poor in comparison.
Just find it amusing that Microsoft are pushing all this and ahead of time in my opinion and focusing on it much instead of their consoles and the performance is not as good as Sonys streaming.
Sort of laughable really.

I never stream, I want full 4K the best experience when I play games, so no big deal to me.

@Banjo-
I still strongly believe if you gave say the coalition five years to produce a single player game on series x only and use all its 12tflops and power it would be a console graphical show case.

Does not mean later another company can’t convert to PC etc, like Sony do now.

Let’s be honest well all know that, but if I gave them the same 5 years but also added series s, pc, all other devices and streaming and let’s say multiplayer as well, the result with no additional staff and time would not be the outstanding showcase for the series x. And that is what happens now.

And that is the difference and why Sony and Nintendo get a lot more followers and fans and sales, those in house just for that specific console show case games.

All Sony did for the end of the PS3 era and then into the PS4 era was copy Xbox with the xbox360.
Amazing in house games showing off the Xbox360, great timed exclusives with third parties and then got the FIFA and COD advertising and console bundles rights from Xbox to PlayStation.

@Millionski
That’s one thing I have never got about Xbox with the very good Xbox console GP attach rate just over 50% compared to billions of other devices.
I have always said sell a console sell a GP sub and probably GPU. At £14.99 a month in the UK and now Xbox have all those studios and new games including COD it is great value.
I’m playing COD, Indy and Stalker all on GPU and probably won’t spend a penny next year apart from my subscription costs, unless a very good third party game turns up.

I have noticed though the last couple of weeks in my local store series x has been selling very well so maybe an uptick in the UK in December console wise.

But yeah it baffles me at the moment with their sort of lacklustre approach to the Xbox console.
I think they are working about ten years ahead in their minds but forgetting the here and now and the next day 8 years console wise.

Also I tried Xbox streaming on my series x 200mb/sec internet it was poor quality.
Then tried spider man 2 on PS5 and it was a lot lot better.
What is going on there, I thought Xbox was the king of cloud streaming gaming?

Series x is an amazing console, great form factor, great ability and great features like quick resume.
But being honest and seeing what Sonys own studios do with a PS5 a less power console by about 2 tflops, we really really have not seen what the series x can really produce.

Unfortunately this is the result of Xbox developers having to produce for many devices be it series x and series s, PC, other devices and cloud.
Of course time constraints are there as well.

Unlike the past where Xbox studios were dedicated to produce on one single console.
That’s why both Sony and Nintendo in house teams get that amazing best ever out of their own consoles, something to aspire to, for other developers.

Yeah yeah analysts.
My only thing to say is Switch 2 of course will sell well initially and if the release day games are right for me I will be there and the console is powerful enough for what it is a hybrid.
But I’m not totally sure long term.
It’s a different environment now and also there are millions and millions of Switch owners unlike hardly any Wii U owners and a lot of those switch owners mainly general public will keep using their original Switch.
Covid and lock down greatly improved Switch sales, never again please lock down wise.

We shall see but it’s not going to be as plain sailing for Switch 2 long term.

@TheSimulator
I think Xbox wants everything.
Home console, all devices and other consoles and GPU.
But it treads a fine line with costs and return on investment.
Yes release a game already made for Xbox on PS5 or Switch should be cost effective.
But the risk is if you shrink your Xbox console base to small and lose to many GPU subscribers on Xbox consoles then there could be a point when making a home Xbox console does not justify the cost of investment. Or even keeping GPU.
The lucky thing for Xbox consoles currently is over 50% of game pass subscriptions are on Xbox consoles and I think that will keep Xbox consoles alive for know and next generation.
I truly believe if Xbox consoles had about 10 to 15 percentage or less game pass subscriptions, then Xbox consoles could disappear.

As Phil said handheld is being looked into and probably a few years away if it happens.

I would like to start hearing whispers of a new Xbox home console. That’s the area that concerns me more than anything about Xbox future.

2025 seems crowded now but should not complain.
Just GPU could bring.
Avowed
South of Midnight
Doom
Fable
COD
And I’ve probably missed some and the odd surprise.
Then we have third party on top of that.

@Sol4ris
I can’t say much I had a couple of 3 day cool offs in the past.
I’m more calm now, but I never baited just got angry and frustrated over decisions made by those in charge that I thought were very wrong. 🤣

@JaffeGaffe
Yep series s and x 30fps the last we heard
Something rubbish about graphics
60fps on PC.
We know it can be 60fps on Series x and it’s main view is first person.
If I was in charge of Xbox studios I would them do it, they have had extra time.

@Sol4ris
Dam I have missed some troll action.
It’s normally me that gets it in the neck for being a-bit outlandish 🤣
But it only comes from my passion for Xbox and corporate decisions.

@Ricky-Spanish
Good luck in the cup tonight.

Great to have 60fps performance mode on series x, should be standard by now.
AVOWED.

@Ricky-Spanish
But you still 13th in the premier league so calm down 🤣
Glad you got the X.

I think it only totals 10% share, so not much really.
Fuss about nothing.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm Wow.

@Rog-X
Yes correct but it gets the general public to pick that cheaper machine or be fooled as you might put it. But it dam well works, if me and you like it or not.

@Millionski
Yep they definitely did in the UK.
Series x discless 1tb £429.99 rrp
PS5 discless 1tb £389.99 rrp
In the UK, must be honest that pricing has really really baffled me.

I will say one thing as a little positive as I do my own very little UK analysis.
The Xbox series x has surprised me December sales in the UK near to me.
They have sold a good few more than normal which I didn’t really expect being honest.

@Millionski
It’s all cool at the minute with series x and I have GPU until March 2027.
And it’s cool games going to other consoles and devices.
Just give us a very positive sign Microsoft for next generation Xbox home console, as simple as that really.

And that’s the frightening console sales data that makes me worry for a next generation Xbox.
Simple statistics and statement from me.

@Coletrain
If Indy can have 60fps so can Avowed as simple as that for me.

@Coletrain
Yes I did watch a lot of Avowed first person, it’s initial design intention I think as it seems to flow better than when watching some of the third person game play.
But then again an option never hurts sometimes.
Depends on the quality of the third person implemented at the later stages.

They have had extra time, and I’m really hoping they can use that time more for a 60fps option on series x.

@Coletrain
Definitely if a game is designed around first person and third person is an after thought, it rarely looks that good.
Then again Avowed will be running both views on release.

Put 60 hours in total.
Did seem to much loading and systems themselves from the Skyrim 360 era.
Really hope they modernise the systems for future games.
Next to no loading, more organisation in the GUI, generally more snappy systems like a next generation game should be.
It did feel from an operational point of view extremely slow and old.

@themightyant
The only thing I will say and it might be just my UK location I tried streaming on my series x just for fun, 400mb/sec internet. So fast.
And I must be honest what a horrible picture and mess it was. Now for me that will put a lot off to drop that streaming technology straight away and put them off for a very long time.
So if this is the current very poor quality, why not wait until it is better then promote and release cloud streaming.

@themightyant
Right behind you, give me a next generation Xbox home console any day.

So looking forward to this. I feel Xbox needs more quality third person action adventure games, my favourite type of game.
And I believe all at 60fps on series x.

@Coletrain
They might add third person probably more so as it is going to PS5 next year and you know how they love third person over there.

Tough one really, I’m enjoying the first person view more than I thought I would.

From a looks point of view and seeing Indy then definitely yes, but would have to play it in third person to really decide.

@Ricky-Spanish
Well humans do it humans, so why not animals.

@Ricky-Spanish
Congratulations your are now an X man.

@Millionski
You may have some good points there.
But we really getting to the point of diminishing returns on consoles.
Even the PS5 Pro doesn’t really shine like a star, maybe a little 10% upgrade over PS5 and even a little less over a Series x.
And when you look at the higher cost you definitely are not getting your monies worth for it.