OldGamer999

@anoyonmus
Thats done it now.
Absolutely nothing is redlined for sure.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
Just read it on PUSH.
FH5 one of my favourite Xbox exclusive franchises on PS5.
It’s definitely begun.

I’m sure sometimes this is deliberate.
So in 2 years from now they can release a remaster on next generation consoles, including a 60fps performance mode.
Generating more and long term sales.

As for game pass I know a good few mid 20s that game a bit.
They totally have and understand Netflix and Disney plus, Amazon Prime and Sky TV.
But as for consoles games as a subscription
just are not bothered. They would rather buy a game when they want one and this that.

To me either general public aren’t not aware of game pass, are aware and don’t want it.

Well don’t know to much about these numbers
But sort of enough to think that don’t look to good percentage wise down and a tiny up tick.

You can never tell what Microsoft will do with Xbox next, it’s just a strange waiting game.
But I guess the big boys won’t be happy with those numbers that are posted.

I guess it depends on return on investment if any company would make another next generation console or not.
You would calculate the cost of console development and manufacturing costs.
Add up all the in goings and out goings and see what the cash bottom line is.

Now the only difference for Microsoft is the gamepass attach rate to current Xbox consoles which is over 50%.
Do they wish to loose that in the future and of course needs to be costed in to the overall return on investment. Against how many next generation consoles they may sell.
It’s all about bottom line profit or not.

One could argue if they are doing and achieve great success just as a publisher.
Then why bother with a next generation Xbox and even game pass at all, as they both cost the company money.

Always thought people can fly might a studio that Xbox would buy one day.

@Fiendish-Beaver
I’m glad you have it all worked out.
Let’s see what happens 🤣

It’s happening now and I have given up on it.
The only frustrating thing is the current policy which grates.
What games?
Day one?
When?

Why they can’t just have a straight forward policy like other publishers.

Xbox and PlayStation console all new games day one.

Or, Xbox consoles 6 months exclusive then on PlayStation.

It’s the uncertainty of what new games and when that gets me and makes me want to dis own Xbox.

They are deliberately leaving Xbox console owners hanging on a thread because of the high Xbox console to game pass attach rate as they don’t want to loose they game pass members. Scum business as usual.

@IOI
I have said that for a while now.
Xbox can have its universe on all other devices apart from other consoles and are in a very good position to have battled this with consoles now and promoted Xbox consoles with all these exclusive console games that they starting to produce of course apart from COD.
I enjoy a good battle and Xbox really could have a good go now and into the next generation.

Publishing on Sony and Nintendo is just surrendering, when they have got themselves in the best position ever for a battle.

@Sol4ris
Yeah thought at the developer direct the other day we have got a nice little 60fps announcement. The thing is we shouldn’t have to wait for it.
They should release like Indy did, spot on.

Will be interesting to see how this one reviews.
And if we get 60fps on series x, terrible omission.

Totally happy with that.
We need to get more great AAA single player games. Excellent.
When a studio get to totally focus on single player only like id, you know it’s going to have great results.

@WildConcept6
Thank you for your detailed response. Was a great read.
As for myself can’t stand cloud gaming for main big tv gaming like I do on a 65” Sony qd-oled. I like the full experience full 4K, 60fps, VRR,HDR, Dolby atmos etc.
The cloud stuff for main gaming is an absolute abomination from all sides for me.
And I’m not sure it will ever get to the maximum experience like I get on a home consoles game download ever.

@Ricky-Spanish
Yeah especially with all those cloud servers and series x cloud blades along side the servers.
I think they just make it all up.
Also Sony push 1080p and Microsoft push 720p. Work that out.

@Ricky-Spanish
I tried streaming on series x UK 200mb/sec and what a mess it was, picture was awful.

I then tried on PS5 spider man 2 and it was ok ish, definitely not my way to play but just about passable.

What I don’t understand is Microsoft are ramming this crap cloud gaming down our throats which let’s be honest in a mass market no one is interested in and it’s miles worse than Sony streaming.

How can it be worse than Sonys.

No dam, really you must be joking, Microsoft not promoting something great about Xbox.

Just one of many great Xbox things that the general public know nothing about.

Even the poor Xbox console got absolutely trashed in December in the USA just over 2:1 by Sony.

Microsoft I can’t stand them.

@Millionski
See this is how it should be new AAA games on GPU. Then a nice remaster shadow drop.
This is where remasters belong, not producing remasters to make up for lack of new games like some company does that’s blue 🤣

I think now and going forward GPU value for money will shine through.
There are the games they showed today.
Avowed in FEB.

Then the rest of the year for some more and of course year end COD.

@Millionski
Think every year will be dam good for GPU and Xbox studios, they have so many studios then COD even for just single player and zombies at the end of every year like a little bonus.

Grade A didn’t need to even think about it after that show.
Glad I kept my GPU extended to March 27.
The value of GPU is really starting to show.

Don’t do fifa but I thought dragon age was great and really enjoyed the adventuring around different locations and side missions and combat.
To many complained about this game.

Under one of Xbox best or paid third party correct studios a new Banjo-Kazooie would amazing for this generation. Great visuals smooth 60fps and tremendous gameplay.

Obviously playtronic and toys for bob come to mind. Probably a 4 year turn around if they get on it as a single player game only with all employees at the studio working on this and nothing else.

I really don’t understand why 🙄

Think we will definitely get
Doom release date, already leaked.
And south of Midnight release date.

Surprise game as we know, have not a clue.
Maybe a shadow drop who knows.
Will be watching live as always.

@fizban3332
That is a very good point.

GPU since the start or whatever it was called back in the day.
GPU until March 2027 paid.

@WildConcept6
You have good point about windows and office and being so entrenched.

Perhaps some daft person at Microsoft thinks that they can treat the xbox gaming universe the same way from a PR point of and really does not realise the competition in this area.

They really do some good things over at Xbox console development to be fair, quick resume being one of my favourites.
So why the hell don’t they promote this great console and GPU and Xbox studios games more as a best way to play console package.
You know the full developers intentions, 4K, 60fps, HDR, VRR, Dolby Vision and Atmos etc.
All the great ingredients are there now with recent studio purchases just starring Microsoft in the face.

@Coletrain
Total agree first person 60fps for Avowed
That is what we demand or at least as an option and that’s what we should get.
Nowadays there should be no excuse.
They have even had extra time to make it happen now as well.
If Indy can do it with some sort of ray tracing and using a 1800p dynamic res with all that graphical detail then Avowed can.

@Millionski
There was a very small rumour I read the other day that Avowed could be 60fps on series x on day of release, forgot where I read it, was a tiny article.

South of midnight and Doom will release this year. They are in good hands.

People have mentioned Fable but that’s not even at the showcase. I think that’s 2026 now or if we luckily very late 2025.

I thought we might some sort of PR for Avowed by now or very soon, like some gameplay and developer chat, it’s only a few weeks away now.

@AndroidBango
I sure it runs 60fps on series x
Under the frame boost option, however it does lower the resolution to achieve this.

@Millionski
Just a dam shame in my opinion, in todays up to date situation with Sony and the amount of ip and studios Xbox owns and with GPU they really could have started a great console come back and gone up against Sony.
Setting them up also for next generation.

And yes the massive attach rate of game pass to Xbox consoles is an issue for Microsoft as they could well loose tens of millions of Xbox console game pass subscriptions.

Which would potentially and roughly only leave about a maximum of 10 million game subscriptions attached to billions of other devices.

They have taken totally the wrong strategy with this especially for the Xbox and Xbox consoles we know.

I would have least said ok.
Any NEW Xbox studio games are very likely to release on another console or consoles.
However Xbox console and GPU owners.
Any NEE game will have a least 9 months of Xbox consoles and GPU exclusivity.

At least that gives some reason to own an Xbox console and GPU and we know exactly where we stand.

Also of course any games already released over 9 months old could go to another console.

Instead we have a totally messed up message of.
We don’t know what games and we don’t know when after Xbox release or at the same time.
We just don’t know, because we have no idea as business how to treat our loyal Xbox console fan base and to run this programme how we should really run it.

@BaltiPie
That is why Sony get the sales, great marketing and PR when they want to do it and creating brand momentum and showing off the right games at the right time.
As we know Xbox console and game marketing has been almost zero.

It’s is definitely the weirdest and hardest Xbox generation I have ever known.

Ive also remembered as well as better VRR
On series x, also quick resume which is a great feature for me.
Easy to add more memory slot in card
Does not require feet or a stand to sit on a shelf vertically or horizontally.

The PS5 really should not be as successful as it is and with less single player games from Sony AAA studios due to bad GAAS decisions.

This really should have been the time for Xbox to strike for some good ole console war, then moving more into next generation in a better fighting position.

They should have picked on the VRR being better on the series x with a better VRR range and LFC built into the console.

This 4.4.4 vs 4.2.2 at 4K 120hz is really not noticeable being honest and is in super nerd analysis territory.

@ZAHMED
I’ve posted about that on there don’t you worry.
But I’m glad they got cancelled as I have PlayStation for their single player AAA games.
Not rubbish GAAS stuff.
I have all three console for the best quality AAA exclusive single player games from all three companies.
Though the way Xbox are going I may need one less console.
Also especially and this sounds so weird and unfortunate to say, that the best place to play Xbox studio games console wise is on a PS5 Pro.
Crazy times we live in.

Live on Pure Xbox 6pm UK. Will be there.
It best cheer me up as I have a chest infection and good ole Dr has given me antibiotics 🤣

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
That is the part I don’t get why bother with any hardware at all if it’s all going PS5/6 and switch 2.
As owning either of those consoles gets you their own exclusive library of course and the Xbox studio games.

I always thought Xbox may have been smart and fair to Xbox console users and said yes we are going to put every NEW game on other consoles but not until at least 9 months have passed.
This would then at least and also with GPU give Xbox console owners a bit of, well we get it first for 9 months at least and a reason maybe to own an Xbox console and GPU.

Instead it’s a mix of no games are redlines, some are day one on other consoles, some are later and some we are not sure.
What a terrible mixed message.

They will rise the price now as we keep saying it and managing the price increase expectation for them.
Good ole expectation management.

@Markatron84
I think the south of Midnight shadow drop is wishful thinking.
As is your punishment 🤣🤣🤣

@Doomgloom1
How’s is hoping for a south of Midnight shadow drop doom and gloom.

Then asking about any news on Avowed as it is releasing soon.

I wonder what the UK numbers are as UK are not included in the European numbers.
Outside of the USA I think UK on percentage is Xbox consoles largest market.

Not sure really we might get
South of Midnight, shadow drop.

Not much mention of Avowed or PR or developer videos etc.
Is it releasing in a month on February 18th.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Totally agree, it’s a weird place to be in as an xboxer consoler.
They not even trying with our great series x console anymore.
They have some great AAA games coming this year and ended last year with COD and Indy.
The time to strike the console market Xbox wise with great PR and hopefully the great games coming is now, but they just don’t want to and unfortunately that is how it is.
Sell a console sell GP subscription.

It’s not like their GP or cloud gaming is being sold by the millions every week, I believe that is stagnant as well.
They have no where left to turn at all.
Jack of all trades and master of none and no one is that interested in big numbers that is their issue.

@Rog-X
No one or device is sharing the line.
I do find it weird and have really tried hard to make it work better.
But it just gets the poor picture it gets.

I tried over Christmas UK 200/mb sec on series x 65inch TV. What a load of crap and mess that picture was it was terrible I would rather die than game like that.

Now just to be honest did the same on PS5, same settings and tv etc.
OK not a bad picture was a lot clearer and it ran ok, I would not play like this by it’s was just about passable.

My big question.
How come yet again Microsoft seem to think they are good and push cloud gaming and Sonys cloud gaming picture and quality is better. That really is piss poor Microsoft.

How they think cloud gaming is any good in the UK anyway I dare to think. And straight away it puts people off cloud gaming and Xbox.

At the end of day they have many market streams coming into the Xbox business.
However these are really slowing down.
Console sales with regards sell a console sell another GP subscription.

GP subscriptions over total, considering there are billions of other devices there are not many GP subscriptions. Low attachment rate.

The issue cloud gaming is terrible I tried on my series x at 200mb/sec and what a bloody messy picture it was. 65” tv.

Yes xbox maybe ahead of their time but they becoming so forgettable in the here and now and becoming a Jack of all trades and master of none, which can work but going on consoles sold, GP and cloud gaming up takes.
Nothing is really doing well in real numbers.

The only reason the Xbox went plus 4% last quarter is ABK deal otherwise it was down yet again.
ABK cannot continue to bale out low console sales and low GP sales and definitely won’t make GP a sustainable product going by the article numbers.

The casuals, the general public the young the old overall just don’t see or get Xbox. Xbox hasn’t done good PR has not created a gel and bond in the mass market. Xbox hasn’t got a thing that sells it to them.

@CenturianShark
Glad you think the same as well. They could kill it all years from now on with all those studios and talent. Then possible expand their studios even more.
I believe they really could and overtime maybe even be king of the consoles or level anyway.
Of course also have the Xbox universe like now and GPU and cloud gaming. Attack on all fronts and not wimp out giving games to other consoles.