I listened to the DF breakdown yesterday and the upgrade sounds disappointing. Will you get higher resolutions? Yes. Better Ray tracing? Yes. Higher framerates? Possibly if the game isnāt hindered by the CPU.
PSSR sounds interesting, moving away from FSR2, which letās admit is dogshit, can only be good. My takeaway was youāre going to get games looking sharper and less noisy but at much the same frame rates weāre getting now.
They predict this thing will cost around $600/Ā£600 which is less than I expected, but makes sense now I understand what it will be offering.
@HonestHick the hype train will seem big for the PS5 Pro online, in reality I canāt see it selling massive numbers. Itāll be a case of the minority being the loudest like always. The cost to me is the most interesting thing to look at, I do wonder what price point theyāre going to sell this at come launch.
@armondo36 how much is PS5 in $ now? Iām in uk so no idea.
@OldGamer999 Personally I wonāt be getting one, Iām the opposite of you and find Triple A gaming to be dull at the moment for various reasons. Thatās across the spectrum not just Sonys offerings. The graphics will be a bit nicer on a Pro, but gameplay is still going to be the same old stuff weāve been playing for a decade or more now.
I really donāt think a Pro of any sort is needed. I bought a PS4 pro because that was a jump from 1080p to 4k in some cases. It still feels like this generation hasnāt fully got into the groove and I donāt think the answer is just more power. I see theyāre still mentioning 8k with the PS5 pro, lol.
@HonestHick GTA6 will sell best on PS5, Pro or no pro, the pro will not move the needle on which console the game sells best on imo. Itāll just give bragging rights to the niche section of PS5 Pro gamers who buy into the system.
Halo, Gears, Forza should always stay Xbox exclusive. Iām not optimistic about the future of any of those 3 franchises though, been going downhill for years.
Iām shocked by this, quite impressive for an older Xbox title, Iām surprised the demand is there for it to this extent.
Agree with Xboxās multi-platform strategy or not, theyāre going to make way more money. Iāve said this before but PlayStation fans shouldnāt be laughing at Xbox just yet, because once Sony see what money can be made, theyāll follow.
I played remake and as a big fan of the original I hated it. I hated everything about it that was new and changed from the original game, it was ridiculous and added nothing, just convoluted the story even more. The only good thing about that game was the graphics and music so I wonāt in a million years play rebirth.
@StylesT FF16 is one of the most overhyped games Iāve ever played, absolute garbage.
Quite the career change. This thread š Iām late to it and my god, the usual loonies throwing tantrums when someone joins a party they donāt like. Probably the same people who like what Sweet baby are doing.
This whole things sad. I donāt expect it to ever come to Xbox why would I and I canāt believe the traction itās gained, people are just making themselves look stupid.
Iāve played Helldivers 2 and itās fun, itās a good game, but missing out on it is not the end of the world if you donāt own a PC or PS5. Plenty of other games to enjoy.
How come the gaming industry is the only industry consistently under a watchful eye when it comes to working any sort of overtime? Plenty of other, lower paid, less talented people in other industries have to work more hours just to get by and no one bats an eyelid, but my god, if a dev has to work overtime near a games release thatās the worst thing imaginable. Now, my word, theyāve been asked to go back to an office, ludicrous!!
Iād swap with them, I could walk past the John Marston life size statue, sipping on my matcha latte before settling into a hard days work in my hammock under my desk. Awful.
Thank Disney, the Star Wars IP means less now than it ever has. To me this being cancelled shows that EA has no faith in a Star Wars game being successful enough to develop. If they were sure theyād make money from it theyād sure as hell develop it.
@TwoDents i donāt think Stella Blade sales will affect sea of thieves at all, both are aimed at very different demographics. Not saying sea of thieves will succeed or flop but Stella blade makes no difference imo.
Isnāt it the case on PlayStation too? Digital is outselling physical? Itās just that their user base is so much bigger that physical are still selling at an acceptable level.
I like Gamepass and its value, but thereās no question itās contributed to physical on Xbox fast becoming history. Uncle Phil can say all he wants about physical games on Xbox but if it doesnāt make financial sense for a disc drive to be in the consoles anymore, theyāll drop it as quickly as possible. The market will also dictate this to some extent but you canāt trust what uncle Phil is saying when it comes to physical media on Xbox.
Thatās alot of fallout. To be honest these games are a one and done for me. The only one Iāve not finished is 4 because I couldnāt get into it, if the next gen upgrade looks good I may try again.
@tigersden98 PlayStation players play a sh*t ton of COD, thatās why Sony were filling their trousers at the thought of MS taking it away. Itās a myth that they donāt play multiplayer games.
@InterceptorAlpha yeah exactly and thatās okay, itās part of the reason theyāre dominating the console market. Iāve always been pro exclusives, theyāre what define and sell a system and it makes the discourse fun. Iāve always found it bizarre over recent years how fans on all sides seem so anti exclusive at times.
Man this is sad. I get that now Xbox are liberal with their games the community wants it both ways, but starting a petition, thatās just cringe.
I donāt have PlayStation plus right now so Iāve not picked Helldivers up and I think it looks like itāll get boring fast anyway. I think they released this at the right price point and people are having fun with it so all good. Wonder how it would have performed at Ā£70ā¦.
It looks like a fun game, Iāve not bought it because it looks like itāll get boring fast. I know what Phil is saying but I also understand why itās not in Xbox, because good exclusives can shift hardware and itās been working for Sony for decades.
Taking this statement with a huge grain of salt. I think if anything itāll be related to streaming and using that to compute instead of the just hardware inside the box. Sort of like how g force now attempts to give you 4090 levels of performance. AI is also going to play a huge part going forward.
I canāt complain about these titles going multiplat it does make sense but I do wonder if they toned it back a little after the backlash and uncle Phil has still been a little vague on future releases. Weāll see
@Sol4ris my advice. Donāt visit that den of filth š then you canāt get in trouble for what a fanboy ājournalistā has to say about anything Xbox related. š
Iām glad I didnāt watch, it sounded like a snoozefest. The games theyāre releasing make sense. 2 popular live service ones theyāll potentially rake the $$ in with and 2 smaller titles that deserve more exposure.
Letās see what the future holds but for now it seems Xbox hardware is safeā¦.
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Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Performance Review Throws Up Mixed Results On Xbox
@ShadowofTwilight whoās that?
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Performance Review Throws Up Mixed Results On Xbox
I donāt watch IGN performance reviews. The guy who provides them (NX Gamer) is a huge PlayStation fanboy.
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
I listened to the DF breakdown yesterday and the upgrade sounds disappointing. Will you get higher resolutions? Yes. Better Ray tracing? Yes. Higher framerates? Possibly if the game isnāt hindered by the CPU.
PSSR sounds interesting, moving away from FSR2, which letās admit is dogshit, can only be good. My takeaway was youāre going to get games looking sharper and less noisy but at much the same frame rates weāre getting now.
They predict this thing will cost around $600/Ā£600 which is less than I expected, but makes sense now I understand what it will be offering.
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@HonestHick do you think the Pro will be $600? I think no chance, more like $700 at least.
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@HonestHick how much is PS5 in US?
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@HonestHick the hype train will seem big for the PS5 Pro online, in reality I canāt see it selling massive numbers. Itāll be a case of the minority being the loudest like always. The cost to me is the most interesting thing to look at, I do wonder what price point theyāre going to sell this at come launch.
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@armondo36 how much is PS5 in $ now? Iām in uk so no idea.
@OldGamer999 Personally I wonāt be getting one, Iām the opposite of you and find Triple A gaming to be dull at the moment for various reasons. Thatās across the spectrum not just Sonys offerings. The graphics will be a bit nicer on a Pro, but gameplay is still going to be the same old stuff weāve been playing for a decade or more now.
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@OldGamer999 will you buy a PS5 Pro?
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
I really donāt think a Pro of any sort is needed. I bought a PS4 pro because that was a jump from 1080p to 4k in some cases. It still feels like this generation hasnāt fully got into the groove and I donāt think the answer is just more power. I see theyāre still mentioning 8k with the PS5 pro, lol.
@HonestHick GTA6 will sell best on PS5, Pro or no pro, the pro will not move the needle on which console the game sells best on imo. Itāll just give bragging rights to the niche section of PS5 Pro gamers who buy into the system.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of 'Control' On Xbox Game Pass?
Played it on PS4 and PS5. One of my top 5 games on both systems. Remedyās best game imo.
Re: Ninja Theory Shares Four New Screenshots From Hellblade 2's Photo Mode
@Lup the first one isnāt fun imo. It was an annoying slog.
@HonestHick Theyāve spent 5+ years creating a 5 hour game. I dread to think how long another game from them will take.
Hoping the second improves on the combat and is more exciting than the first.
Re: Jim Ryan Explains Why Sony Kept Refusing To Sign Xbox's Call Of Duty Offer
There are deals and deals. And then there are DEALS. Which he signed Iām guessing.
Re: Gears Of War Creator Thinks 'The More, The Merrier' In Regards To Getting Gears On PS5
Halo, Gears, Forza should always stay Xbox exclusive. Iām not optimistic about the future of any of those 3 franchises though, been going downhill for years.
Re: Remedy's Sam Lake Wraps Up 'Final Motion Capture Shoot' For Alan Wake 2
They still need to fix the lip sync, Iāve been waiting for a fix before playing. Iād refund at this point if I could.
Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Becomes 'Best-Selling' Pre-Order On PlayStation 5
@Grumblevolcano I think weāll see both Xbox and PlayStation āexclusivesā on the Switch 2.
Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Becomes 'Best-Selling' Pre-Order On PlayStation 5
Iām shocked by this, quite impressive for an older Xbox title, Iām surprised the demand is there for it to this extent.
Agree with Xboxās multi-platform strategy or not, theyāre going to make way more money. Iāve said this before but PlayStation fans shouldnāt be laughing at Xbox just yet, because once Sony see what money can be made, theyāll follow.
Re: The Legendary Dragon Ball Creator Akira Toriyama Has Passed Away
Man this is sad news. DB/DBZ was a huge part of my childhood and I still love it as an adult. He will live on through his work, itās timeless.
Re: Starfield To PS5 Rumours Played Down Following Recent Xbox First-Party Ports
@Romans12 I enjoyed it at first and wouldnāt say itās a ābadā game. However itās boring af, repetitive and cringeworthy.
Re: Halo's Legendary Composer Marty O'Donnell Announces Political Career Switch
@dreadful 100%
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Producer Defends Lack Of Xbox Series X|S Release
@InterceptorAlpha theyāre gonna hate releasing it on PC then if they canāt cope with 2 sets of Xbox hardware š
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Producer Defends Lack Of Xbox Series X|S Release
I played remake and as a big fan of the original I hated it. I hated everything about it that was new and changed from the original game, it was ridiculous and added nothing, just convoluted the story even more. The only good thing about that game was the graphics and music so I wonāt in a million years play rebirth.
@StylesT FF16 is one of the most overhyped games Iāve ever played, absolute garbage.
Re: Halo's Legendary Composer Marty O'Donnell Announces Political Career Switch
Quite the career change. This thread š Iām late to it and my god, the usual loonies throwing tantrums when someone joins a party they donāt like. Probably the same people who like what Sweet baby are doing.
Re: Ori Dev Criticises 'Senseless Arguments' Between Xbox & PlayStation Fans
Senseless, but sometimes fun.
Re: Warner Bros. Wants To Move Away From 'One And Done' Console Games
Man, the Batman games were good, Iām glad I got to enjoy them when they released and before the dogshit we get fed today like Suicide Squad.
Re: Soapbox: 15 Years On, We Reckon Capcom Should Have A Crack At Resident Evil 5 Remake
Itāll happen but with changes to appease todays forever offended minority.
Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Urges More 'Compassion' In Response To Negative Xbox Tweet
This whole things sad. I donāt expect it to ever come to Xbox why would I and I canāt believe the traction itās gained, people are just making themselves look stupid.
Iāve played Helldivers 2 and itās fun, itās a good game, but missing out on it is not the end of the world if you donāt own a PC or PS5. Plenty of other games to enjoy.
Re: Rockstar Asks Employees To Return To Office Full-Time In Preparation For GTA 6
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Re: Remedy Purchases Full Rights To 'Control' Franchise From 505 Games
Control is one of my top 5 games of the last decade, I love it. This can only be good news.
Re: Rockstar Asks Employees To Return To Office Full-Time In Preparation For GTA 6
How come the gaming industry is the only industry consistently under a watchful eye when it comes to working any sort of overtime? Plenty of other, lower paid, less talented people in other industries have to work more hours just to get by and no one bats an eyelid, but my god, if a dev has to work overtime near a games release thatās the worst thing imaginable. Now, my word, theyāve been asked to go back to an office, ludicrous!!
Iād swap with them, I could walk past the John Marston life size statue, sipping on my matcha latte before settling into a hard days work in my hammock under my desk. Awful.
Re: Ubisoft Boasts 'Record Player Engagement' With Pirate Adventure Skull & Bones
Why does a Quadruple A Ā£70 game need āseasonsā, itās become a horrid trend in gaming.
@Friendly go and try it, youāll be astonished by its mediocrity. Itās quite something.
Re: EA Cancels Respawn's Star Wars First-Person Project, Was Reportedly A 'Mandalorian Game'
Thank Disney, the Star Wars IP means less now than it ever has. To me this being cancelled shows that EA has no faith in a Star Wars game being successful enough to develop. If they were sure theyād make money from it theyād sure as hell develop it.
Re: Review: Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons Remake (Xbox) - Emotionally-Charged Puzzle Platformer Makes Its Return
@MarkD01 itāll probably unlock sometime this afternoon in the UK im guessing. Its strange still no price š
Re: Limbo, Inside Dev Shares New Screenshot From Upcoming 'Third-Person Adventure'
Yeah love limbo and inside. Will follow this one.
Re: PSA: You'll Need A Microsoft Account To Play Sea Of Thieves On PS5, Unsurprisingly
Good. Make them sign up to the green side š
@TwoDents i donāt think Stella Blade sales will affect sea of thieves at all, both are aimed at very different demographics. Not saying sea of thieves will succeed or flop but Stella blade makes no difference imo.
Re: Review: Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons Remake - Emotionally-Charged Puzzle Platformer Makes Its Return
@HelloCraig Iām left handed and never had a problemā¦ controls feel weird at first but I assumed thatās same for everybody š
Anyone know the price on this? I canāt find it anywhere.
Re: Review: Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons Remake - Emotionally-Charged Puzzle Platformer Makes Its Return
Iām a big fan of the original so naturally interested in this. If the price is right Iāll probably pick it up.
Re: PlayStation Follows Xbox In Announcing Significant Layoffs For 2024
The days of riding around the office on a Sony branded scooter are over for these folks.
Re: Obsidian Blasted By Xbox Fans For 'Prioritising' PS5 & Switch Versions Of Pentiment
That victimhood behaviour is really sad.
Re: 'Pacific Drive' On Xbox Is A Possibility, But Probably Not Anytime Soon
Games meant to be good but Iāve watched some videos and it looks like a mess to me, guess it aināt my kind of thing.
Re: Xbox Insists It's Not Ditching Physical Games: 'That's Not A Strategic Thing For Us'
Isnāt it the case on PlayStation too? Digital is outselling physical? Itās just that their user base is so much bigger that physical are still selling at an acceptable level.
I like Gamepass and its value, but thereās no question itās contributed to physical on Xbox fast becoming history. Uncle Phil can say all he wants about physical games on Xbox but if it doesnāt make financial sense for a disc drive to be in the consoles anymore, theyāll drop it as quickly as possible. The market will also dictate this to some extent but you canāt trust what uncle Phil is saying when it comes to physical media on Xbox.
Re: Xbox Petition For Helldivers 2 Goes Viral Overnight, Aims To 'Redefine The Console Wars'
Came back to read some comments here, man what went down š so many deleted.
Re: Bethesda Releasing New Fallout Anthology Including 7 'Incredible' Games
Thatās alot of fallout. To be honest these games are a one and done for me. The only one Iāve not finished is 4 because I couldnāt get into it, if the next gen upgrade looks good I may try again.
Re: Xbox Petition For Helldivers 2 Goes Viral Overnight, Aims To 'Redefine The Console Wars'
@tigersden98 PlayStation players play a sh*t ton of COD, thatās why Sony were filling their trousers at the thought of MS taking it away. Itās a myth that they donāt play multiplayer games.
Re: Crazy Taxi Reboot Will Be A 'Triple-A' Title, Says SEGA Executive
š®āšØ thank god itās not quadruple A. AAA > AAAA
Re: Xbox Petition For Helldivers 2 Goes Viral Overnight, Aims To 'Redefine The Console Wars'
@InterceptorAlpha yeah exactly and thatās okay, itās part of the reason theyāre dominating the console market. Iāve always been pro exclusives, theyāre what define and sell a system and it makes the discourse fun. Iāve always found it bizarre over recent years how fans on all sides seem so anti exclusive at times.
Re: Xbox Petition For Helldivers 2 Goes Viral Overnight, Aims To 'Redefine The Console Wars'
Man this is sad. I get that now Xbox are liberal with their games the community wants it both ways, but starting a petition, thatās just cringe.
I donāt have PlayStation plus right now so Iāve not picked Helldivers up and I think it looks like itāll get boring fast anyway. I think they released this at the right price point and people are having fun with it so all good. Wonder how it would have performed at Ā£70ā¦.
Re: Phil Spencer 'Gets' Why Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox, But Still Thinks It's Silly
It looks like a fun game, Iāve not bought it because it looks like itāll get boring fast. I know what Phil is saying but I also understand why itās not in Xbox, because good exclusives can shift hardware and itās been working for Sony for decades.
Re: Xbox's Next Console Will Feature The 'Largest Technical Leap Ever' In A Generation
Taking this statement with a huge grain of salt. I think if anything itāll be related to streaming and using that to compute instead of the just hardware inside the box. Sort of like how g force now attempts to give you 4090 levels of performance. AI is also going to play a huge part going forward.
Re: Roundup: Here's What Was Revealed At The Xbox 'Business Update Event'
I canāt complain about these titles going multiplat it does make sense but I do wonder if they toned it back a little after the backlash and uncle Phil has still been a little vague on future releases. Weāll see
@Sol4ris my advice. Donāt visit that den of filth š then you canāt get in trouble for what a fanboy ājournalistā has to say about anything Xbox related. š
Re: Roundup: Here's What Was Revealed At The Xbox 'Business Update Event'
@Sol4ris naughty boy š
Iām glad I didnāt watch, it sounded like a snoozefest. The games theyāre releasing make sense. 2 popular live service ones theyāll potentially rake the $$ in with and 2 smaller titles that deserve more exposure.
Letās see what the future holds but for now it seems Xbox hardware is safeā¦.