I get that people are annoyed with the price increase but Game Pass is still great value. Do I like COD? No, but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate the extra value it provides to the service. Plus, being realistic, we expect more Activision games to come to the service, not just BO6 so the increase for that, along with general inflation, is fair. You can still stack up on the subs, and buy codes at the cheaper price now and use them as and when it makes sense for you as well. I've got just over a year left on my sub and will be doing just that.
Am I missing something, or are the prices on the online marketplace not updated? Need for Speed Most Wanted's meant to be 90% off but shows as $20? Do I need to dig out my old 360, or will the price update at some point later today / tomorrow?
I remember seeing gameplay of the original Forza Horizon and falling in love with it. Subsequently played a good bit of FM4 and other games. Seeing Horizon 3, combined with backwards compatibility, and gamepass made it a no brainer for me. I do think Xbox has it's issues currently, but I still don't regret my choice
@JetmanUK Was just thinking about potential crossovers. Their own version of Mario Kart, Smash Bros? Crash/Spyro crossover? Halo/COD crossover? Regardless, all of these will be in the future but, I'm more excited than ever and looking forward to it! Summer Showcase '24 can't come soon enough!
I played so much Dream House Days years ago. Definitely tempted to pick some of these up. Will probably wait to see how they play on a console first though
@TheSimulator Englishman here - I see Indycar as being a much bigger sport than NASCAR these days - don't know if that's just me or not - especially given the big names involved
@Markatron84 Exactly. I'm a huge Formula 1 fan but I'm not paying for the same game (in essence) year after year. I'll eventually grab a cheap version digitally so that I 'own' it, but will wait for it to drop on GP
@Markatron84 @themightyant I'm not arguing that it's anything but fair, 5 hours is still a lot! I was just stating that it was a perfectly understandable change. I'm still happy that we're getting demos at all - something that I think we should see more of given the price of games these days
Interesting to see that they've cut the trials in half compared to the previous 10 hours you got. I can only imagine it's because people trialled the game, and never actually purchased it, because they had moved on after the trial.
Hyped for Forza, Cities 2, and Flight Sim (which took my breath away once more!). Disappointed the show was only an hour, but the fast pace meant that when a game didn't appeal to me, I wasn't waiting for the next one for too long. Plus, we have the extended showcase for more gameplay.
For those complaining about the lack of non-delayed games for this year, I agree. However, I would argue that both Forza and Starfield are heavy hitters, and it's important to remember that things take time - many of 24s titles would have been pencilled in internally for this year but delayed so that the games could be better, which is what we all want.
The lack of concrete release dates was also a clever move in my opinion - by not announcing dates too soon, there's less disappointed in the long run as games don't get (publicly at least) delayed.
Really enjoyed this showcase, even if I was disappointed not to see more of what others want (such as Gears), and think it was definitely the best so far. Let's all hope that Xbox can build on this strong momentum going forwards
@Suda52 The Forza Monthly show on the 13th is confirmed to be taking a deeper dive into the career mode, although why that wasn't advertised is beyond me
Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a step in the right direction however, I personally just turn my console off at the mains all the time. If I want it on, I'll turn the plug on, make a drink, and by the time I'm back, and turn the console on, it boots up as quickly as it would have done anyway
As someone who has played all of the Horizon games (FH1 was the first game I ever 'beat'), it's nice to see so much being done for the 10th anniversary. With that being said, I was hoping for a remaster / remake of the first game. Imagine that, with all the DLC included and what have you!
@Dr_Luigi The article states that this is only for those that own the game digitally. There's no word as of yet whether those who own it physically will be able to claim.
This explains why TSW2 is due to leave Game Pass then. Twas a decent game but the controls seemed to have falter after a while. Would be nice to see full keyboard support added
I have a Samsung Smart TV and used to use the likes of YouTube and what have you that way but have since started using my Xbox as I can plug my earphones into my controller thus not annoying any of my housemate with my noise. Only downside is that for some apps, like Prime, the controller turns itself off after 20 minutes and there doesn't appear to be a way to change that
Amazing! Looks like you had a great time! The harsh reality is that you could start saving your points at the launch of a new console and be able to pay for the next generation with just points. I started in January this year and have around £130 in points already. Crazy value!
It's not pro clubs though, is it? The F1 game has taken a monumental step backwards this year (in my opinion!) with EA only caring about how to milk every single game of theirs dry as opposed to making high quality games. The irony is that they posted that tweet about how 'shes a 10 but only plays single-player games' when they can't even get the online elements right
Good to see some kids titles: whilst they won't appeal to the majority of us, it's good to see Xbox offering a greater level of variety. Been debating whether or not to buy Road 96 so that's settled me debate; I'll give it a go and, if I like it, I'll pick it up down the line. Finally, people may mock powerwash simulator but I've been enjoying House Flipper a surprising amount since it joined GP: it's a different change of pace and it's good to have games other than FPS'
This is getting pathetic now. Whilst I'm happy to have Thrillville (as it will mean I can sell my copy), when you look at what PlayStation offers month after month, this is not good enough.
I know the argument is that this is a 'bonus' each month - and I get that - and I also understand that Gamepass exists and the value it offers (which is monumental!) but, when PlayStation offers Crash 4, God of War (admittedly an exclusive), and Fifa in the span of three months, what Xbox offers is awful.
The worst part is the fact that there is no reason as to why, right? Xbox owns a significant number of studios now and could easily offer some back catalogue games from said studio for minimal cost then, they could use the savings from this and work with a close partner (like EA, or Activision) and secure a heavy-hitter game and actually offer something that makes people go wow. I can't remember the last time GWG has made me do that
Fantastic news. Don't care for football at all but I do like the career mode options. Even at £8.99, it wouldn't be worth it for me. Played a fair chunk of FIFA 21 so am looking forward to give this a go
@uptownsoul For sure, and I completely understand the fact that some don't like / know how to do it this way. For me, both subscriptions offer great value if you a) have enough time and b) make use of them. For me, £11 a month wouldn't make sense as whilst I get some use, it's not to that extent. At £2.50 a month, it's the only subscription I pay for
@uptownsoul Very true. I think both offerings appeal to different consumers as well. Having said that, GPU can be had for £2.50 a month at the moment with some VPNing...
I don't really care for either franchise but I'm glad they're not being shown - if they're not ready, don't bother with a CGI trailer as they'll be forgotten quickly and the hype will quickly be lost.
The fact that Xbox have got their announcements out of the way today, and have enough for the showcase on Sunday is fantastic: so much for Xbox not having much, hey?
To think that around a decade ago, when the Xbox One released, this would have taken up about 3/4 of their main showcase. Now, it's all been announced outside of the showcase AND today's Summer Games Fest so the focus can be on games... Good stuff, Microsoft!
@pip_muzz You've hit the nail on the head there. Personally, I'd like to see Lego return at some point. I feel as if they should have lego-ifed more cars and could have done more with the map. Maybe they'll remake / remaster all of the previous DLC one day now, that would be good!
@Grumblevolcano Potentially but that would be rather underwhelming. I know Playground are also working on the Fable reboot (plus the longer-term effects from the pandemic) but to take this long but be nothing more than a remake of the expansion would be disappointing. With that being said, I never experienced the DLC on FH3 so that'd be nice.
@Grumblevolcano I hadn't thought about it like that. That would make more sense but still fails to explain why the background looks similar to that of Australia
@pip_muzz I did think the same when I saw this earlier. That, the fact there is a standalone Hot Wheels game already, and the fact that the toy-related expansions are typically the second expansion released makes me question this
Not surprising given how little we've seen of it thus far. Enjoyed the original 2 games so hopes are high but I'm pessimistic to say the least. All the delays being seen show that it's not just Microsoft suffering.
Is it just me or is it sad that an article about a free trial has to be published? I'm not criticising the (quite frankly brilliant) PX team instead, the idea of having to invest £50+ on a game that you might not like. Sure, you can see gameplay online but it's not the same until you play it yourself.
I know you can sometimes get a refund if you've played so little of a game but there's 3 issues with that: Not many people know about that, it's a hassle, and you can't play enough to know if the games for you in that short window.
Surely, these AAA games should all be coming with free 30 minute - 1 hour demos, right?
Been wanting to give this a go on PC but held off for two reasons: The first being my preference to game on Xbox and the second being that I knew it would go f2p. Called it.
Worried about the F1 series to be honest. 20 had a good selection of classic cars and track alternatives but 21 ditched those in favour of the story mode - which really doesn't appeal to me - and now they're adding F1 life, which sounds so awful. If I want to drive a supercar, I'd play Forza, or PC, Assetto Corsa and so on... I want to see classic cars and tracks return (like 2013), and it would be cool to see F3 and the W Series also included that way, you could have a longer lasting career that doesn't just start from F2
I'd like to see another compilation game like the Megadrive collection but for something like the Dreamcast. It'd offer a great variety and a great deal to everyone
I'm expecting a Game Pass announcement and why shouldn't we? Since it's currently not a free game, you need to have Gold to play it online, right? I would assume that the majority of people that have gold have it as a part of their GPU sub so why not make it free to play especially since the hype has dwindled in the wait time.
@PhileasFragg An F1 season lasts from March until December: it's all contained within one calendar year whereas something like FIFA takes place across two years (Summer to Summer)
I'm definitely adding this to my 'To Play' list - I didn't know this game was a thing, let alone made by the same folks as Octodad, which I would be far more excited for if it came to Xbox!
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Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
I get that people are annoyed with the price increase but Game Pass is still great value. Do I like COD? No, but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate the extra value it provides to the service. Plus, being realistic, we expect more Activision games to come to the service, not just BO6 so the increase for that, along with general inflation, is fair. You can still stack up on the subs, and buy codes at the cheaper price now and use them as and when it makes sense for you as well. I've got just over a year left on my sub and will be doing just that.
Re: Xbox 360 Sales Continue As Microsoft Discounts Another Batch Of Games
@FraserG Thanks for clarifying! Wondered if I was doing something wrong or going mad - both of which wouldn't surprise me!
Re: Xbox 360 Sales Continue As Microsoft Discounts Another Batch Of Games
Am I missing something, or are the prices on the online marketplace not updated? Need for Speed Most Wanted's meant to be 90% off but shows as $20? Do I need to dig out my old 360, or will the price update at some point later today / tomorrow?
Re: Talking Point: What Convinced You To Pick Xbox In The First Place?
I remember seeing gameplay of the original Forza Horizon and falling in love with it. Subsequently played a good bit of FM4 and other games. Seeing Horizon 3, combined with backwards compatibility, and gamepass made it a no brainer for me. I do think Xbox has it's issues currently, but I still don't regret my choice
Re: Microsoft Adds Amazing 'Just For You' Deals To This Week's Xbox Sales
Was tempted to pick up NFS Unbound for £4, but the reviews, and the fact it's a modern-day EA game means that I've decided not to...
Re: It's That Time Again! Your Xbox 'Year In Review' 2023 Is Now Available
I hate the fact I saw this article. Spent 469 hours on FM23 (via Game Pass) alone. Can't complain about the value of the sub!
Re: Xbox Says The 'Work Has Begun' To Bring Activision Blizzard Titles To Game Pass
@JetmanUK Was just thinking about potential crossovers. Their own version of Mario Kart, Smash Bros? Crash/Spyro crossover? Halo/COD crossover? Regardless, all of these will be in the future but, I'm more excited than ever and looking forward to it! Summer Showcase '24 can't come soon enough!
Re: Kairosoft Is Bringing Five Simulation Games To Xbox Next Week
I played so much Dream House Days years ago. Definitely tempted to pick some of these up. Will probably wait to see how they play on a console first though
Re: F1 23 Receives Impressive Reviews As Free Trial Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass
@TheSimulator Englishman here - I see Indycar as being a much bigger sport than NASCAR these days - don't know if that's just me or not - especially given the big names involved
Re: F1 23 Receives Impressive Reviews As Free Trial Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass
@Markatron84 Exactly. I'm a huge Formula 1 fan but I'm not paying for the same game (in essence) year after year. I'll eventually grab a cheap version digitally so that I 'own' it, but will wait for it to drop on GP
Re: F1 23 Receives Impressive Reviews As Free Trial Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass
@Markatron84 @themightyant I'm not arguing that it's anything but fair, 5 hours is still a lot! I was just stating that it was a perfectly understandable change. I'm still happy that we're getting demos at all - something that I think we should see more of given the price of games these days
Re: F1 23 Receives Impressive Reviews As Free Trial Goes Live On Xbox Game Pass
Interesting to see that they've cut the trials in half compared to the previous 10 hours you got. I can only imagine it's because people trialled the game, and never actually purchased it, because they had moved on after the trial.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2023
Hyped for Forza, Cities 2, and Flight Sim (which took my breath away once more!). Disappointed the show was only an hour, but the fast pace meant that when a game didn't appeal to me, I wasn't waiting for the next one for too long. Plus, we have the extended showcase for more gameplay.
For those complaining about the lack of non-delayed games for this year, I agree. However, I would argue that both Forza and Starfield are heavy hitters, and it's important to remember that things take time - many of 24s titles would have been pencilled in internally for this year but delayed so that the games could be better, which is what we all want.
The lack of concrete release dates was also a clever move in my opinion - by not announcing dates too soon, there's less disappointed in the long run as games don't get (publicly at least) delayed.
Really enjoyed this showcase, even if I was disappointed not to see more of what others want (such as Gears), and think it was definitely the best so far. Let's all hope that Xbox can build on this strong momentum going forwards
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2023
@Suda52 The Forza Monthly show on the 13th is confirmed to be taking a deeper dive into the career mode, although why that wasn't advertised is beyond me
Re: Microsoft Increases Sustainability Efforts By Announcing Xbox As 'First Carbon Aware Console'
Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a step in the right direction however, I personally just turn my console off at the mains all the time. If I want it on, I'll turn the plug on, make a drink, and by the time I'm back, and turn the console on, it boots up as quickly as it would have done anyway
Re: Forza Horizon 5 To Receive '10-Year Anniversary' Update This October
As someone who has played all of the Horizon games (FH1 was the first game I ever 'beat'), it's nice to see so much being done for the 10th anniversary. With that being said, I was hoping for a remaster / remake of the first game. Imagine that, with all the DLC included and what have you!
Re: GoldenEye 007 Will Be Free For Digital Owners Of Rare Replay On Xbox
@Dr_Luigi You can grab it digitally from the store for £5, possibly less if you 'go to Argentina'.
I will say that there should be some way of getting it for free, even if you only have the physical version
Re: GoldenEye 007 Will Be Free For Digital Owners Of Rare Replay On Xbox
@Dr_Luigi The article states that this is only for those that own the game digitally. There's no word as of yet whether those who own it physically will be able to claim.
Re: Train Sim World 3 Choo-Choo's Its Way To Xbox Game Pass This September
This explains why TSW2 is due to leave Game Pass then. Twas a decent game but the controls seemed to have falter after a while. Would be nice to see full keyboard support added
Re: Talking Point: How Often Do You Use Your Xbox To Watch TV In 2022?
I have a Samsung Smart TV and used to use the likes of YouTube and what have you that way but have since started using my Xbox as I can plug my earphones into my controller thus not annoying any of my housemate with my noise. Only downside is that for some apps, like Prime, the controller turns itself off after 20 minutes and there doesn't appear to be a way to change that
Re: Feature: Microsoft Rewards Is So Good, It Paid For Me To See The Red Hot Chili Peppers
Amazing! Looks like you had a great time! The harsh reality is that you could start saving your points at the launch of a new console and be able to pay for the next generation with just points. I started in January this year and have around £130 in points already. Crazy value!
Re: #SaveProClubs Goes Viral As FIFA 23 Players 'Demand Answers' From EA
It's not pro clubs though, is it? The F1 game has taken a monumental step backwards this year (in my opinion!) with EA only caring about how to milk every single game of theirs dry as opposed to making high quality games. The irony is that they posted that tweet about how 'shes a 10 but only plays single-player games' when they can't even get the online elements right
Re: These 12 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (July 5-14)
Good to see some kids titles: whilst they won't appeal to the majority of us, it's good to see Xbox offering a greater level of variety. Been debating whether or not to buy Road 96 so that's settled me debate; I'll give it a go and, if I like it, I'll pick it up down the line. Finally, people may mock powerwash simulator but I've been enjoying House Flipper a surprising amount since it joined GP: it's a different change of pace and it's good to have games other than FPS'
Re: Xbox Games With Gold For July 2022 Announced
This is getting pathetic now. Whilst I'm happy to have Thrillville (as it will mean I can sell my copy), when you look at what PlayStation offers month after month, this is not good enough.
I know the argument is that this is a 'bonus' each month - and I get that - and I also understand that Gamepass exists and the value it offers (which is monumental!) but, when PlayStation offers Crash 4, God of War (admittedly an exclusive), and Fifa in the span of three months, what Xbox offers is awful.
The worst part is the fact that there is no reason as to why, right? Xbox owns a significant number of studios now and could easily offer some back catalogue games from said studio for minimal cost then, they could use the savings from this and work with a close partner (like EA, or Activision) and secure a heavy-hitter game and actually offer something that makes people go wow. I can't remember the last time GWG has made me do that
Re: FIFA 22 Finally Arrives On Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Next Week
Fantastic news. Don't care for football at all but I do like the career mode options. Even at £8.99, it wouldn't be worth it for me. Played a fair chunk of FIFA 21 so am looking forward to give this a go
Re: PlayStation's Xbox Game Pass Competitor Goes Live Today In The US
@uptownsoul For sure, and I completely understand the fact that some don't like / know how to do it this way. For me, both subscriptions offer great value if you a) have enough time and b) make use of them. For me, £11 a month wouldn't make sense as whilst I get some use, it's not to that extent. At £2.50 a month, it's the only subscription I pay for
Re: PlayStation's Xbox Game Pass Competitor Goes Live Today In The US
@uptownsoul Very true. I think both offerings appeal to different consumers as well. Having said that, GPU can be had for £2.50 a month at the moment with some VPNing...
Re: When Is The Xbox And Bethesda Games Showcase 2022?
@pip_muzz Nice to know I'm not the only one who was concerned about a potential clash!
Re: Rumour: Fable & Perfect Dark Won't Be At The Xbox Games Showcase
@abe_hikura I fully see your point and still steer on the side of caution but, as you rightly mention, things are looking good overall
Re: Rumour: Fable & Perfect Dark Won't Be At The Xbox Games Showcase
I don't really care for either franchise but I'm glad they're not being shown - if they're not ready, don't bother with a CGI trailer as they'll be forgotten quickly and the hype will quickly be lost.
The fact that Xbox have got their announcements out of the way today, and have enough for the showcase on Sunday is fantastic: so much for Xbox not having much, hey?
Re: Roundup: All The Key Xbox Announcements From Today (June 9)
To think that around a decade ago, when the Xbox One released, this would have taken up about 3/4 of their main showcase. Now, it's all been announced outside of the showcase AND today's Summer Games Fest so the focus can be on games... Good stuff, Microsoft!
Re: Forza Horizon 5's First Expansion Has Leaked On The Steam Store
@pip_muzz You've hit the nail on the head there. Personally, I'd like to see Lego return at some point. I feel as if they should have lego-ifed more cars and could have done more with the map. Maybe they'll remake / remaster all of the previous DLC one day now, that would be good!
Re: Forza Horizon 5's First Expansion Has Leaked On The Steam Store
@Grumblevolcano Potentially but that would be rather underwhelming. I know Playground are also working on the Fable reboot (plus the longer-term effects from the pandemic) but to take this long but be nothing more than a remake of the expansion would be disappointing. With that being said, I never experienced the DLC on FH3 so that'd be nice.
Re: Forza Horizon 5's First Expansion Has Leaked On The Steam Store
@Grumblevolcano I hadn't thought about it like that. That would make more sense but still fails to explain why the background looks similar to that of Australia
Re: Microsoft Is Quietly Giving Away Free Xbox Credit Right Now
Nothing for me, yet again. Good for those that have got it
Re: Forza Horizon 5's First Expansion Has Leaked On The Steam Store
@pip_muzz I did think the same when I saw this earlier. That, the fact there is a standalone Hot Wheels game already, and the fact that the toy-related expansions are typically the second expansion released makes me question this
Re: Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Now Next-Gen Only, Coming In 2023
Not surprising given how little we've seen of it thus far. Enjoyed the original 2 games so hopes are high but I'm pessimistic to say the least. All the delays being seen show that it's not just Microsoft suffering.
Re: PSA: Arma Reforger Has A Free Trial On Xbox Series X And Series S
Is it just me or is it sad that an article about a free trial has to be published? I'm not criticising the (quite frankly brilliant) PX team instead, the idea of having to invest £50+ on a game that you might not like. Sure, you can see gameplay online but it's not the same until you play it yourself.
I know you can sometimes get a refund if you've played so little of a game but there's 3 issues with that: Not many people know about that, it's a hassle, and you can't play enough to know if the games for you in that short window.
Surely, these AAA games should all be coming with free 30 minute - 1 hour demos, right?
Re: Fall Guys Launches On Xbox And Goes Free-To-Play This June
Been wanting to give this a go on PC but held off for two reasons: The first being my preference to game on Xbox and the second being that I knew it would go f2p. Called it.
Re: New Report Details Six Upcoming Racing Games In Development At EA
Worried about the F1 series to be honest. 20 had a good selection of classic cars and track alternatives but 21 ditched those in favour of the story mode - which really doesn't appeal to me - and now they're adding F1 life, which sounds so awful. If I want to drive a supercar, I'd play Forza, or PC, Assetto Corsa and so on... I want to see classic cars and tracks return (like 2013), and it would be cool to see F3 and the W Series also included that way, you could have a longer lasting career that doesn't just start from F2
Re: Sega 'Planning Multiple' Remakes And New Releases In The Next Year
I'd like to see another compilation game like the Megadrive collection but for something like the Dreamcast. It'd offer a great variety and a great deal to everyone
Re: Fall Guys Expected To Share Xbox Update On May 16th
I'm expecting a Game Pass announcement and why shouldn't we? Since it's currently not a free game, you need to have Gold to play it online, right? I would assume that the majority of people that have gold have it as a part of their GPU sub so why not make it free to play especially since the hype has dwindled in the wait time.
Re: EA Teases Major IP, Partner Title, Remake And Sports Game For 2023
@PhileasFragg An F1 season lasts from March until December: it's all contained within one calendar year whereas something like FIFA takes place across two years (Summer to Summer)
Re: Bugsnax Jumps From PlayStation To Xbox Game Pass Later This April
I'm definitely adding this to my 'To Play' list - I didn't know this game was a thing, let alone made by the same folks as Octodad, which I would be far more excited for if it came to Xbox!