It’s already Xbox who are and will continue to struggle in terms of a console. I have sold my Xbox Series X and now have a PS5 but still have my GPU sub and use the cloud via my GTech Cloud. It runs at 1080p but it never stutters so it does what I need it to.
I heavily suspect that Xbox will focus on the handheld market anyway with an Xbox 1st party handheld but will also allow numerous 3rd party handhelds as well with Xbox OS.
For Xbox, it will be about the number of active players and that will include PS5 and what comes next.
Nintendo is a strange one. If the next Switch is just a minor upgrade, I would be surprised if it gets anywhere close the current models success.
PlayStation will lead the way still , Nintendo as well and Xbox in terms of hardware will be a very distant 3rd. That said, in terms of money made , Xbox will potentially obliterate the competition with their games on every other system.
I still have an GPU sub but just play through my Gcloud on the TV and sold my Xbox for a PS5 for my physical games. Xbox are literally going 3rd party and will make their own streaming handhelds and there will be 3 party ones as well.
Essentially, my G Cloud is my Xbox now. But I just have no reason for my Xbox itself really.
It’s sad and I do get why they are going all in on cloud and multi format, but zero exclusives will only reduce console sales for Xbox next gen. They will be worse than this.
I love Xbox but the just think they are going away from what their core gamers really want.
This show isn’t about gaming. It’s just a vehicle to push Geoff Keighley’s ego. Last year was abysmal. Presenters stumbling over the autocue and often not even getting words out.
The audience applauded quietly and no one laughed at any of the attempted jokes.
It’s time this awful yearly debacle was laid to rest.
It is quite odd how in the preview , Pure Xbox said this was going to be a cracker and any worries were layed to rest.
It does seem weird to say that and then do a review that says the preview was basically a pile of rubbish. The two just don’t correlate or make sense at all.
I suspect looking at Pure Xbox numbers , maybe they see an end coming for the site as happened before.
It just doesn’t add up. All seems very fishy. Pushing the drive to the Push Square site as they make more money from that clearly.
I think even Fraser said not long ago that they focus more on Game Pass articles now because it gets more clicks.
It didn’t hurt sale but PS still sold more. Of course , Xbox will make mega money on this but it shows that more people would rather play on PS and pay for it than on Xbox. When will Spencer wake up?
@BacklogBrad I really doubt that. Nadella is in charge. Spencer just pops up to say what he is told to say. Nadella wants Microsoft Gaming not Xbox. I have argued for a long time that is not the case but it seems to be becoming even more obvious who is pulling all the strings. Spencer is a dead duck. Nothing more than a puppet.
@BacklogBrad because eventually Xbox won’t be a box and all games will be on other platforms. Phil keeps saying they will make more consoles but that needs to come from Nadella who is in full control now and he clearly wants a 3rd party publishing future, not an Xbox future. Spencer and Bond are not even close to being in charge any more.
@Dalamar73 Even with Indy there is no interest with Xbox anymore , not as a console sadly. I’ve been arguing on the positives but they are diminishing daily right now.
@BacklogBrad Xbox will only succeed with a handheld if it is native and comes out on next 12 months. Any longer and it will be far too late. Far too late. We have already seen with Flight Sim 24 that cloud is going to break easily and people won’t put up with that. They just won’t.
Xbox is just throwing in the towel on hardware. I have often argued that the cloud and streaming on all devices options are good but if it’s at the cost of a console , who is going to make games for Xbox? And if they don’t make them, they might now allow them to be streamed and the whole thing unravels very quickly.
I am not jumping ship yet by any means but if things continue it looks as bad as they do for Xbox , I will have little choice.
How can Xbox win when it hardly has any 1st party titles to win with anymore. I keep telling myself that Xbox won’t go full on 3rd party but as each day gets more bad news about Xbox, it just seems that it is starting to become in inevitable and once that happens , 3rd parties won’t have an Xbox to make games for and that will be that.
@themightyant These devs really do need to stop pushing out games when they are not ready. It’s getting ridiculous and is just an insult to gamers. You don’t make people drive a car that has no brakes! Devs are getting complacent and very lazy and just thinking - let’s push this out and then fix it later.
Fair enough. Although worryingly sounds like another Xbox big game flop could be on the cards. Really need some consistently positive news on Xbox soon we really do! 🙏
I cannot believe that Hellblade II is not up for game of the year. That is utterly crazy. I know it’s short in length but it’s the best looking game of the last few generations, the story is incredible and for it to not even make the cut at all is just ridiculous. But typical of Geoff Keighley and the more and more pointless Game Awards.
@MeanBeanEgg I play a lot of retro games via emulation these days. But fancied this in game pass for a bit. Thats the whole thing about Game Pass. It gives everyone choice.
9/10 Not the toughest games ever made but still some of my fave 3D platformers. Love the character and the mechanics of all 3 games and having a blast with playing them all again. The joy of Game Pass strikes again!
The way I look it now @FraserG is that I have a series X which I love. But I also can play games on my iPad, Logitech GCloud when I’m on holiday without taking the whole console and with just lives, I just see this as meaning more people on many diverse budgets can access brilliant games.
Of course cloud and internet in the UK is still not the best, with apps- that Xbox are fine with may I add - like better Xcloud and also GCloud now runs cloud on the Xbox app in 1080p, things are vastly better and will get better.
I totally get what it’s controversial but the way I see it is, is that I can game more than ever before as an Xbox gamer mainly.
I actually see a huge and bright figure for Xbox and it will be a case of the best experience will be on Xbox hardware but if you want to play with a more restricted budget, Xbox will allow you to do so and then some.
@ButterySmooth30FPS Stadia actually ran really well. Never had any issues with it but then no one played it…… That said, 1080p is now being added to cloud at last so that’s well overdue.
I love taking my Xbox with me anywhere and by my Xbox I mean my IPad and Logitech G Cloud. And it’s brilliant to game anywhere.
Xbox has a future, just not the one many wanted. But I don’t think they will suffer anything like Stadia at all.
We will still have an Xbox hardware option and then that’s who want it have it, those that don’t have the budget can game some brilliant games at a very reasonable price indeed.
@kezelpaso Good article and it is great that beyond the hype and hate of social media, that we have a well reasoned piece about Xbox and the future. I know and understand, myself included to a degree , that in an ideal world we would love for Xbox to stay with its exclusives and look after us Xbox players who have invested so much.
But things change so fast in technology and it’s clear that hardware wise, Xbox has taken a new route overall, but I don’t believe it is one that mean they are conceding anything.
I play much of my Xbox games on my iPad or Logitech GCloud now. It’s convenient but I still love playing on my Series X as well when the TV is free just for me.
Game Pass is incredible value for money - I have games more at the age of 46 through Xbox and Game Pass than ever before. I love the accessibility and volume of games it brings me. Love it.
Xbox can still give is a console and even with lower sales numbers, Game Pass and games on other platforms mean that we can see even better games comes either from Xbox game studios or to Game Pass. And that is fine by me.
If every screen is an Xbox - who actually loses anything? The reality is that for gamers, they get a bigger world of games to play at any time, in many places.
As long as Xbox makes money for Microsoft then that that is all they care about - as do most businesses - but I can’t truly see a future where Xbox will exist long term and is heading down the route of becoming Microsoft gaming now.
@TheGameThrifter Most of the games will be Xbox first and GamePass day one so it depends on if you want to play the game day one and if you want to pay £70 or £80 for it. But yes, it’s not news Xbox fans wanted but it’s also not a surprise at all.
I will definitely get an Xbox handheld which seems to be inevitable.
As for a huge leap, I just don’t see that and let’s not forget that was said at a time when Xbox was announcing games moving multi platform. It came across as a desperate statement at the time and it still sounds that way now.
Also Bond, Booty and Spencer have even less control anyway now as Nadella has pretty much taken centre stage with Xbox as he presses ahead with moving it all to Microsoft Gaming.
Cloud and streaming is what they want and with games we own being tested via cloud soon, Xbox is basically heading toward Stadia land.
I guess we may see a hybrid but with rumours now - only today - that Halo is going to PS and PC lock stock and barrel- it is clearer than ever that Microsoft Gaming will be the name in the future.
Nadella is in full control now. Anything Spencer or Booty say may as well be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
Still enjoying BO6 but actually playing a lot of efootball. Might not be graphically the best football game but am really enjoying it and the online games are more fun than EAFC and better matched. I’ve not bought EA2025 as have been ill with bi polar since March and skint. Remember fellas - don’t bottle it up. Talk to someone. X
Microsoft Gaming will decide. Xbox isn’t even a thing now. It’s just a name. Nadella wants Xbox gone and Spencer, Bond and Booty will be all redundant soon. They are all quieter than ever and they have never been great at communication anyway. Cloud is the only way we will play Xbox soon.
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Re: Xbox & PlayStation Face 'Significant Risk' With Their Next Consoles, Predicts Research Firm
It’s already Xbox who are and will continue to struggle in terms of a console. I have sold my Xbox Series X and now have a PS5 but still have my GPU sub and use the cloud via my GTech Cloud. It runs at 1080p but it never stutters so it does what I need it to.
I heavily suspect that Xbox will focus on the handheld market anyway with an Xbox 1st party handheld but will also allow numerous 3rd party handhelds as well with Xbox OS.
For Xbox, it will be about the number of active players and that will include PS5 and what comes next.
Nintendo is a strange one. If the next Switch is just a minor upgrade, I would be surprised if it gets anywhere close the current models success.
PlayStation will lead the way still , Nintendo as well and Xbox in terms of hardware will be a very distant 3rd. That said, in terms of money made , Xbox will potentially obliterate the competition with their games on every other system.
Re: Xbox Apparently Thinks Making Hellblade 2 Exclusive Was 'A Mistake'
I still have an GPU sub but just play through my Gcloud on the TV and sold my Xbox for a PS5 for my physical games.
Xbox are literally going 3rd party and will make their own streaming handhelds and there will be 3 party ones as well.
Essentially, my G Cloud is my Xbox now. But I just have no reason for my Xbox itself really.
It’s sad and I do get why they are going all in on cloud and multi format, but zero exclusives will only reduce console sales for Xbox next gen. They will be worse than this.
I love Xbox but the just think they are going away from what their core gamers really want.
Re: The Game Awards 2024: Date, Start Times & Everything You Need To Know
This show isn’t about gaming. It’s just a vehicle to push Geoff Keighley’s ego. Last year was abysmal. Presenters stumbling over the autocue and often not even getting words out.
The audience applauded quietly and no one laughed at any of the attempted jokes.
It’s time this awful yearly debacle was laid to rest.
Re: Xbox Partners With UK Darts Star Luke Littler, 'Community Rewards' Up For Grabs
This was the huge news that Xbox were trading? Seriously?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 7-8)
Have been playing Forza Motorsport a lot again recently and keep trying UFL but it is laughably bad.
Re: Early Rumours Hint At Major Planned Reveals For The Game Awards 2024
I’m hoping that maybe Geoff will not be there and we can actually have something a little less like the pantomime the show has become.
Last year was abysmal. The presenters stumbling over autocues was just embarrassing
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
@FraserG Fair points and comments and no offence intended.
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
It is quite odd how in the preview , Pure Xbox said this was going to be a cracker and any worries were layed to rest.
It does seem weird to say that and then do a review that says the preview was basically a pile of rubbish. The two just don’t correlate or make sense at all.
I suspect looking at Pure Xbox numbers , maybe they see an end coming for the site as happened before.
It just doesn’t add up. All seems very fishy. Pushing the drive to the Push Square site as they make more money from that clearly.
I think even Fraser said not long ago that they focus more on Game Pass articles now because it gets more clicks.
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
So one of the lowest scores for the game comes from Pure Xbox! 🤦♂️
Re: UFL Has Launched In 'Early Access' On Xbox, And It's Pretty Fun So Far
Played this game and it is utterly laughable. It’s so, so bad.
Re: Call Of Duty Becomes Most-Played Game On Xbox After Incredible Black Ops 6 Launch
It is a superb game. Top stuff. Love the zombies most. Just pure, unadulterated fun.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Didn't Hurt Overall Black Ops 6 Sales, Says Analyst
It didn’t hurt sale but PS still sold more. Of course , Xbox will make mega money on this but it shows that more people would rather play on PS and pay for it than on Xbox. When will Spencer wake up?
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad I really doubt that. Nadella is in charge. Spencer just pops up to say what he is told to say. Nadella wants Microsoft Gaming not Xbox. I have argued for a long time that is not the case but it seems to be becoming even more obvious who is pulling all the strings. Spencer is a dead duck. Nothing more than a puppet.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad because eventually Xbox won’t be a box and all games will be on other platforms. Phil keeps saying they will make more consoles but that needs to come from Nadella who is in full control now and he clearly wants a 3rd party publishing future, not an Xbox future. Spencer and Bond are not even close to being in charge any more.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@Dalamar73 sadly yes.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
Sold a million copies in 2 days mind
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@Dalamar73 Even with Indy there is no interest with Xbox anymore , not as a console sadly. I’ve been arguing on the positives but they are diminishing daily right now.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@Stamnoso Fair point actually. Just feel so deflated with Xbox now
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad I am now it’s working although I have a feeling it will make the move to PS5 very soon.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
Wow! That is brutal!!! Absolutely brutal. So another rubbish Xbox release. Just when I thought Xbox couldn’t get any worse right now…. It does.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad Xbox will only succeed with a handheld if it is native and comes out on next 12 months. Any longer and it will be far too late. Far too late. We have already seen with Flight Sim 24 that cloud is going to break easily and people won’t put up with that. They just won’t.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
Xbox is just throwing in the towel on hardware. I have often argued that the cloud and streaming on all devices options are good but if it’s at the cost of a console , who is going to make games for Xbox? And if they don’t make them, they might now allow them to be streamed and the whole thing unravels very quickly.
I am not jumping ship yet by any means but if things continue it looks as bad as they do for Xbox , I will have little choice.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
How can Xbox win when it hardly has any 1st party titles to win with anymore.
I keep telling myself that Xbox won’t go full on 3rd party but as each day gets more bad news about Xbox, it just seems that it is starting to become in inevitable and once that happens , 3rd parties won’t have an Xbox to make games for and that will be that.
Can anyone give me some glimmers of hope?
Re: Xbox Introduces 'Stream Your Own Game' Feature With 50 Titles Supported At Launch
Bit of an odd list to start with. I wonder how often we will see more games added. Is this Xbox finally going full Stadia?
You can access the games straight from the app now as well. It didn’t seem to appear at first but it’s there on a banner. @FraserG
Re: Stalker 2: Best Performance Options & VRR Settings On Xbox
Sounds like another lazy release to me. If it isn’t ready don’t release it!
Re: Site News: Where's Our Stalker 2 Review?
@themightyant as I say, it just seems to be laziness. If it’s nit ready then don’t release it!
Re: Site News: Where's Our Stalker 2 Review?
@themightyant These devs really do need to stop pushing out games when they are not ready. It’s getting ridiculous and is just an insult to gamers. You don’t make people drive a car that has no brakes!
Devs are getting complacent and very lazy and just thinking - let’s push this out and then fix it later.
It’s become a disease in gaming and must stop.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Stalker 2 Review?
Fair enough. Although worryingly sounds like another Xbox big game flop could be on the cards. Really need some consistently positive news on Xbox soon we really do! 🙏
Re: Flight Simulator 2024 Struggles To Take Off As Servers Buckle On Launch Day
Still not working now? That’s actually ridiculous.
Re: Sony's Next Acquisition Could Have A Big Impact On Future Xbox Releases
This is where Xbox and PS differ. Sony will keep the games as 1st party only.
Re: Xbox Fails To Make GOTY List, But Still Gets 11 Nominations For The Game Awards 2024
I cannot believe that Hellblade II is not up for game of the year. That is utterly crazy. I know it’s short in length but it’s the best looking game of the last few generations, the story is incredible and for it to not even make the cut at all is just ridiculous. But typical of Geoff Keighley and the more and more pointless Game Awards.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of The Spyro Reignited Trilogy On Xbox Game Pass?
@FarmDog08 agree with you 100%
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of The Spyro Reignited Trilogy On Xbox Game Pass?
@__jamiie I used to use Blockbuster the same as I do Game Pass. Try before you buy . Game Pass gives everyone so much choice!!!
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of The Spyro Reignited Trilogy On Xbox Game Pass?
@MeanBeanEgg I play a lot of retro games via emulation these days. But fancied this in game pass for a bit.
Thats the whole thing about Game Pass. It gives everyone choice.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of The Spyro Reignited Trilogy On Xbox Game Pass?
9/10 Not the toughest games ever made but still some of my fave 3D platformers. Love the character and the mechanics of all 3 games and having a blast with playing them all again.
The joy of Game Pass strikes again!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 16-17)
Playing through the first Spyro before moving into 2 and 3. In between that I have been playing Asterix on the Master System!
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
Exactly this. More revenue means you can build consoles and keep bringing bigger and better games to Game Pass.
Who loses out? No one.
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
The way I look it now @FraserG is that I have a series X which I love. But I also can play games on my iPad, Logitech GCloud when I’m on holiday without taking the whole console and with just lives, I just see this as meaning more people on many diverse budgets can access brilliant games.
Of course cloud and internet in the UK is still not the best, with apps- that Xbox are fine with may I add - like better Xcloud and also GCloud now runs cloud on the Xbox app in 1080p, things are vastly better and will get better.
I totally get what it’s controversial but the way I see it is, is that I can game more than ever before as an Xbox gamer mainly.
I actually see a huge and bright figure for Xbox and it will be a case of the best experience will be on Xbox hardware but if you want to play with a more restricted budget, Xbox will allow you to do so and then some.
Re: Reaction: Like It Or Not, Xbox Has Gone Full Throttle On Multiplatform
@ButterySmooth30FPS Stadia actually ran really well. Never had any issues with it but then no one played it……
That said, 1080p is now being added to cloud at last so that’s well overdue.
I love taking my Xbox with me anywhere and by my Xbox I mean my IPad and Logitech G Cloud. And it’s brilliant to game anywhere.
Xbox has a future, just not the one many wanted. But I don’t think they will suffer anything like Stadia at all.
We will still have an Xbox hardware option and then that’s who want it have it, those that don’t have the budget can game some brilliant games at a very reasonable price indeed.
Any losers in this?
Hardly.
Re: Reaction: Like It Or Not, Xbox Has Gone Full Throttle On Multiplatform
@kezelpaso Good article and it is great that beyond the hype and hate of social media, that we have a well reasoned piece about Xbox and the future.
I know and understand, myself included to a degree , that in an ideal world we would love for Xbox to stay with its exclusives and look after us Xbox players who have invested so much.
But things change so fast in technology and it’s clear that hardware wise, Xbox has taken a new route overall, but I don’t believe it is one that mean they are conceding anything.
I play much of my Xbox games on my iPad or Logitech GCloud now. It’s convenient but I still love playing on my Series X as well when the TV is free just for me.
Game Pass is incredible value for money - I have games more at the age of 46 through Xbox and Game Pass than ever before. I love the accessibility and volume of games it brings me. Love it.
Xbox can still give is a console and even with lower sales numbers, Game Pass and games on other platforms mean that we can see even better games comes either from Xbox game studios or to Game Pass. And that is fine by me.
If every screen is an Xbox - who actually loses anything? The reality is that for gamers, they get a bigger world of games to play at any time, in many places.
Re: Reaction: Like It Or Not, Xbox Has Gone Full Throttle On Multiplatform
Xbox is Game Pass. The end.
Re: Is Xbox Successful Right Now? Phil Spencer Shares His Thoughts
As long as Xbox makes money for Microsoft then that that is all they care about - as do most businesses - but I can’t truly see a future where Xbox will exist long term and is heading down the route of becoming Microsoft gaming now.
Re: Xbox Boss Says Everything Is On The Table When It Comes To PS5 Ports
@Fiendish-Beaver He has always been a cretin and a toad. He’s just a puppet now for Nadella
Re: Xbox Boss Says Everything Is On The Table When It Comes To PS5 Ports
@TheGameThrifter Most of the games will be Xbox first and GamePass day one so it depends on if you want to play the game day one and if you want to pay £70 or £80 for it.
But yes, it’s not news Xbox fans wanted but it’s also not a surprise at all.
Re: Xbox Sparks Excitement As Spyro Is Confirmed For Game Pass
@FraserG Cheers FraserG Been hoping for this
Re: Xbox Fans Ponder What 'Largest Technical Leap' Means For The Series X Successor
I will definitely get an Xbox handheld which seems to be inevitable.
As for a huge leap, I just don’t see that and let’s not forget that was said at a time when Xbox was announcing games moving multi platform. It came across as a desperate statement at the time and it still sounds that way now.
Also Bond, Booty and Spencer have even less control anyway now as Nadella has pretty much taken centre stage with Xbox as he presses ahead with moving it all to Microsoft Gaming.
Cloud and streaming is what they want and with games we own being tested via cloud soon, Xbox is basically heading toward Stadia land.
I guess we may see a hybrid but with rumours now - only today - that Halo is going to PS and PC lock stock and barrel- it is clearer than ever that Microsoft Gaming will be the name in the future.
Nadella is in full control now. Anything Spencer or Booty say may as well be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 9-10)
@Ricky-Spanish Much appreciated mate
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Metal Slug Tactics On Xbox Game Pass
@Markatron84 @FraserG meant more interest in the game itself
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 9-10)
Still enjoying BO6 but actually playing a lot of efootball. Might not be graphically the best football game but am really enjoying it and the online games are more fun than EAFC and better matched.
I’ve not bought EA2025 as have been ill with bi polar since March and skint.
Remember fellas - don’t bottle it up. Talk to someone. X
Re: Talking Point: Where Are All The ActiBlizz Titles On Xbox Game Pass?
Microsoft Gaming will decide. Xbox isn’t even a thing now. It’s just a name. Nadella wants Xbox gone and Spencer, Bond and Booty will be all redundant soon. They are all quieter than ever and they have never been great at communication anyway.
Cloud is the only way we will play Xbox soon.