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@Sebatrox Game wasn't broken so would of been hard to get refunds

@Belkan Not necessarily, not everyone who bought forspoken read reviews, and not everyone played the demo. Square Enix shot themselves in the foot by releasing a demo, would of got a lot more day one sales without it.

I still don't get how developers especially Microsofts 1st party ones work out how much they are bringing in off gamepass. Take Bethesda for example who are owned by Microsoft, how much do they get for putting their games on gamepass, do Microsoft class Bethesda as seperate company and pay them separately? As Hi fi Rush is listed as a Bethesda title on metacritic and are a seperate publisher to Microsoft on there still. If so then maybe Microsoft have to pay Bethesda a certain amount due to how many players have played the game on gamepass, and it didn't meet expectations and didn't get the money back they were hoping for. It's all very confusing.

@Belkan Where you getting Hi-Fi Rush outsold Forspoken?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/10uy78y/forspoken_actually_outsold_and_outperformed_hifi/

Forspoken outsold Hi-Fi rush and bought in more revenue, but I admit that that's to be expected as it wasn't included in a subscription service. It may of failed to achieve sales expectations but I bet it still broke even on its development costs.

I'd say this is the new Fable or next Gears of War.

Also it seems like something happened in May 2022 that halted gamepass growth or lowered it.

They would be mad to decline.

@Moonglow My comment is aimed at the sub header, where she says "Can you explain why that seems to be a good idea?"

I just found it funny as can she explain how it was a good idea to do what she did to break the law. My comment is nothing to do with the deal in general.

And this is from someone who not long ago broke the law 😂

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fourteen-members-of-congress-reportedly-violated-stock-trade-reporting-law

So Netflix turning into a games publisher now?

@Dezzy70 You seen the latest TOTK trailer? Game looks incredible, definitely will be battling FF16 for game of the year no matter what the haters say.

@Stamnoso I've only played around 8 hours so far but it's been good, I don't know if you've ever played any rune factory games buts it's very similar to those, but less of a focus on social interaction and has more jrpg elements. Farming in this game is also quicker especially as you don't need to keep refilling up on water so the farming aspect goes quite quick but you can focus on it to bring in a lot of money to buy new equipment and upgrade your armor, you can also use teh crops you've farmed to cook dishes that restore your life and stamina, or you can buy food from various shops from each of the towns.

Combat wise there's multiple jobs you can get such as fighter, mage, healer etc and you can switch between 3 of them that you set, you also have two party members to follow you into battle. Also the maps are quite basic and linear so far so theres not a lot of exploring to do which I quite like as there's to many massive open world games atm.

Graphics are what you would expect from a switch game, similar or slightly better than xenoblade chronicles 3, and the performance so far has been good, no frame rate issues.

On PS5 i have started the Ghost of Tsushima DLC and will continue with Fairy Fencer F

On Switch I've got the last dungeon of Zelda Skyward Sword HD to do and I will continue with Harvestella, I've also bought Bayonetta Origins which is coming today so I'm looking forward to trying that.

On xbox I will be playing some more Atomic Heart and Ghostwire Tokyo using the backbone one.

@sixrings They care about Microsoft buying all the biggest publishers around especially since sony can't afford to rival their bids, but I haven't seen many actually moan about the idea of losing call of duty.

There's a reason it died, no reason to revive it.

@Sebatrox Since they haven't said anything since it was announced it's safe to assume it's cancelled by capcom, also Beyond Good and Evil 2 was first teased in 2008 meaning it was in pre development stage in that year, yet 15 years later it's still not released. Ubisoft definitely have capcom beat with this.

@ParsnipHero I know 😂

Seriously how long has it been now since it was first announced? I can't remember a game taking this long to make.

Beyond Good and Evil 2?

Good joke 🤣

@Tharsman Animal Crossing multiplayer is very minimilistic, same with Mario kart 8 deluxe many users mainly use it for their kids to play or at family gatherings etc the amount of NSO users doesn't match up to the amount of sales these games get, Mario kart 8 has sold over 52 million copies but NSO membership is around 36 million subscribers and not all of them would have Mario kart 8. Even with the free to play multiplayer games like apex legends and overwatch they have only recently come to the system which was thriving before those got added, then there's the recent news of rogue legacy (niche I know) closing it's switch version which surely indicates no one was playing it on switch. There's only three games I see people mainly playing online on switch and that's splatoon, fortnite and smash bros ultimate. Whereas on playstation/xbox there are many games that get players in the millions.

@sixrings Also to your second post, if the market only cared about multiplayer games then the switch wouldn't of sold 120 million units. Playstation and Switch single player exclusives sell between 20-30 million copies, even more on some Nintendo games.

@sixrings I think the only ones concerned are the sony higher ups who only see the dollar signs, not the fans. They know they will still get to play the game as Microsoft have stated it will remain multiplatform, but Obviously Jim and those above him see call of duty primarily as a source of income.

@Kevw2006 Well I doubt there's even a call of duty switch version in development yet, so could be years away. Seems a bit early to be counting those players if once the deal is done they still can't play call of duty.

On a serious note though I do wonder where they are getting this "150 million more" players from, that's not including the millions that already play on PC, Playstation and Xbox. Surely they aren't talking about mobile as there's way more than 150 million mobile users.

They forgot to say bringing 30fps to 150 million more players 😂

For that price you can get a couple of their games in a sale per month lol

Or for those that want 60fps how about they can wait until the patch is out? Whilst everyone else plays it on may 2nd. Either way those that want 60fps will be waiting longer, it just means those that don't care don't have to wait.

@Dezzy70 "They couldn’t manage a piss up in a brewery" 😂

Seriously though if after the ABK deal goes through and they still continue to be in third or lose even more ground to sony then I think in 10-20 years time Microsoft will just be a publisher and not bother making consoles.

@FatalBubbles Not going to lie I have absolutely no idea, I don't check my games settings apart from when you first boot up a game. If a game has performance or Resolution modes on playstation I always go with the Resolution/High Fidelity option.

@Kaloudz longer than that, these are Sony's next months "gamepass" style additions. So they will likely be there for atleast 12 months.

@NEStalgia If so then it's a very clever play by Microsoft.

@Moonglow Well Sony must of recently paid to have them added to the service, so they should surely know how that would look in court for their case. Just shot themselves in the foot.

@Kaloudz PlayStation plus Essential tier is like GWG but better games, and playstation plus Extra tier is gamepass but without day one releases from Sony.

If this is 30 then that doesn't bode well for starfield which is a much much bigger game.

So playstation have no choice but to accept them as its not Microsofts service to just add what they want. Otherwise I thought they would reject them as they obviously know how it will look to the courts. But then again sony surely have to pay for theses games to be included so maybe it was a deal they made years ago before the acquisition.

Looks interesting, will definitely check it out.

I'm surprised no one has said its the Series S fault holding it back, maybe the 60 fps mode is ready for the series X but they want same day parity across both consoles.

I remember when plague tale requiem cane out and there was a huge fuss over it being 30fps yet I played it and enjoyed it and didn't notice any difference to when I play any other games.

So I'm still looking forward to launch.

Or you can go here and buy better looking skins for your series X

https://easyskinz.com/collections/xbox-series-x

So how does this deal work? EE already has gamepass as a perk and gamepass is already on mobile devices so EE mobile users can already play Activision games once they hit the service.

@Tharsman If Microsoft have fully funded the remake then no one can complain that's its not on Playstation/Nintendo. For all we know Sony could of Funded Final Fantasy 7 Remake otherwise Square wouldn't of bothered with it.

@Bleachedsmiles Bethesda are still publishing their own games and are classed separately to Microsoft on metacritic under top publishers last year and the year before. Even Hi-Fi rush is listed as a Bethesda published game not a Microsoft published game. They are obviously owned by Microsoft but are acting seperately like bunjie are after sony bought them and will most likely continue to make what ever games they want to and continue to publish them themselves. Only thing Microsoft are controlling is what system each games go to.

So for example if Starfield won GoTY it would be a win for Bethesda and not classed as Microsoft winning the award, the single studios under Microsoft where Microsoft act as publisher and the main source of funds would be the games where Microsoft themselves get credit for in the end of year awards and publisher metacritic standings.

https://www.metacritic.com/feature/2022-game-publisher-rankings-summary-table

Pete Hines says it perfectly himself

"The key point is we’re still Bethesda,"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamingbolt.com/bethesda-will-continue-to-publish-its-own-games-pete-hines/amp

@Moonglow Or more Minecraft Legends news since its coming out next week.

@Epux_fhouwuo yeah not until around the 24th January 2025 though, xbox will be getting the better version at launch as its had a lot of QoL updates since and there's a story DLC coming out in may which I'd expect will be already bundled with the Xbox version.

Also Forspoken is already coming to xbox in just under two years time and Id wager will be on gamepass. And technically it's already on the xbox store.

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/store/forspoken/9p3b7mt34dls

Voted none of them as I play the majority of square enix games on playstation and the few Nintendo exclusives on the switch. But if I were asked which one I'd reccomend for xbox players to play if they were to get these it would be Octopath Traveler 2. Total improvement over the first game in every way and the HD 2D graphics are gorgeous.

I wish square enix would remake final fantasy 1-6 using the octopath traveler engine.

I've finally completed Hogwarts Legacy and it's definitely up there as one of my favourite games and my GOTY so far. So on PS5 i will now concentrate on Fairy Fencer F and the Ghost of Tsushima DLC

On switch I've started Zelda Skyward Sword HD to give me my Zelda fix until the 12th may. I will also be playing some Metroid Prime Remastered, just completed the phazon mines and it's been great so far, hopefully 2 and 3 gets the same treatment.

I'm still waiting for my Backbone one to be delivered, if it comes today I will be playing Atomic Heart and Re-Core on gamepass.

Does EA play eventually get the dead space remake? If so I'd choose EA play but usually I prefer ubisoft games. But saying that ubisoft games usually go dirt cheap and are constantly in sale so maybe it's not worth it after all.

@Sol4ris I know it's unlikely but that would be the only way i think Microsoft would make COD worse on playstation.

Lol at that twin stick comment, I'd expect that will be the switch version.

I don't think Microsoft would release a buggy version on playstation or take away content, but I can see them doing something similar to with psychonauts 2 which didn't have a next gen version for playstation. So for example when the next gen consoles come out instead of sony getting a playstation 6 version of the latest COD they will get a PS5 version instead whilst xbox has the next gen version exclusively. Then yes that would cost playstation a lot of players.

Just bought me a backbone one for gamepass so I would prefer this deal to be done quickly as well now as I'm quite liking the idea of playing diablo 4 in bed and on my breaks at work.