
As we've already highlighted on Pure Xbox, the UK CMA recently announced it was no longer concerned about the impact of Microsoft's Activision Blizzard takeover on the console market, which led to a response from Sony suggesting the findings were "surprising, unprecedented, and irrational".
As part of this, Sony talked a little bit about the need for Call of Duty to have complete parity across Xbox and PlayStation, referencing SIE president Jim Ryan's very definitive comments at a recent Remedies Hearing:
"Any degradation in the price, performance, or quality of play on PlayStation or any delays on release would quickly harm SIE’s reputation and cause a loss of engagement and of players."
"As SIE’s CEO, Jim Ryan, explained to the CMA at the Remedies Hearing, if PlayStation received a degraded version of Call of Duty, it would “seriously damage our reputation. Our gamers would desert our platform in droves and network effects would exacerbate the problem. Our business would never recover”."
This small section of the report goes into detail about players' expectations for games such as Call of Duty, even mentioning that Digital Foundry's in-depth analysis of a title can have a "highly influential" effect on where console owners choose to play a game. Therefore, the concern is that any kind of degradation could be a deal breaker.
On Xbox's side of things, the most recent Microsoft response to the CMA mentioned that the company has "no intention to withhold or degrade access to Call of Duty", stating this would be "in direct contrast to the interests of gamers in the UK and around the world". Nevertheless, Sony and Jim Ryan still clearly have their concerns.
Do you think Xbox could realistically degrade CoD in the future? Give us your thoughts below.
[source assets.publishing.service.gov.uk]
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I don't think Microsoft would release a buggy version on playstation or take away content, but I can see them doing something similar to with psychonauts 2 which didn't have a next gen version for playstation. So for example when the next gen consoles come out instead of sony getting a playstation 6 version of the latest COD they will get a PS5 version instead whilst xbox has the next gen version exclusively. Then yes that would cost playstation a lot of players.
Jim Ryan Still crying, but COD isn’t leaving the platform and has been said 3,376 times that it will be day and date with no less features. Not sure what else this guy wants to hear, but this deal is going through and i am sure sony will start to rethink what they need to do if some players leave for COD on GP.
Ach, away and f**k off, Jim. What an absolute load of twaddle.
Watching Microsoft's lawyers work this case has been a masterclass in corporate law. Watching Sony's lawyers has been sad and pathetic.
Jim Ryan is such a tool
"Our gamers would desert our platform in droves"
Wow what was that about world-beating, best-games-ever-made first party exclusives you were saying Jim?
Doesn't sound like you've much confidence in your studios!
I wonder if he saw that Last of Us PC port ...
@Widey85 Was thinking the same thing.
@J_Mo_Money as soon as I read the article, I couldn’t help but think of The Last of Us as well.
I don’t think Xbox would make a degraded version of CoD on PlayStation. This acquisition has been too much under a microscope. Even years from now the Xbox and PlayStation versions will be compared to each other.
He's full of rubbish
This guy just annoys the hell out of me...the hypocrisy of his crying over cod and worrying about having a worse version when for years they have payed to keep full modes off xbox
I don't support any corporation as all they care about is money and are essentially the definition of greed.
Microsoft will eventually make millions jobless as they continue to invest millions in artificial intelligence which will eventually replace many jobs. But as far as the Gaming space is concerned. What good is going to come out of crying about it? Sony just needs to up their game now. This deal would only hurt Sony, If in the future CoD is made exclusive, otherwise I don't see much of impact on Playstation.
On the one hand, Pure Xbox is milking these articles. On the other hand, seeing Jim Ryan cry incessantly is hysterical.
A buggy CoD on Playstation would NOT reflect on Playstation but Microsoft and their Studio's that made the game - you don't blame Sony for the state of Cyberpunk or Gotham Knights for example so it would only hurt MS and their reputation - not Sony's so they have a big incentive not to 'jeopardise' sales by releasing a 'poor' quality game on ANY platform.
Also MS were willing to pay an 'independent' analyst to assess if the PS version has 'Parity' before the game releases and would decide if the game is 'ready' to release on ALL platforms and only let MS release if/when the game has parity on all platforms to ensure these BS concerns are unwarranted but also that the CMA are 'satisfied' that MS will remain 'fair' despite Sony being ridiculous in return.
Says the guy whose company just released a mess of a port on PC.
I don't think his fear is about making the PS version 'inferior' but more about making the Xbox version 'better' if that makes sense. As a first party game Xbox would get priority over PS when it comes to development. With the Series X being a more powerful console and in addition to that having better access to dev tools they could in theory make it perform better on Xbox than it does on PS. Nothing to do with them deliberately making the PS version worse, they would just be capable of making the Xbox version better. Jim Ryan isn't exactly going to admit that the Series X is more powerful than PS5 so he has to sell it as them making the PS version inferior.
Of all the things I'm looking forward to not hearing about once this ABK is sorted....this man's BS baby crying is definitely top of my list.
@BAMozzy I'm sure I can recall games and updates being delayed on a specific platform in the past because they had failed some sort of QA process for a specific platform, with the indication being that it was the platform holder that had rejected it for release. That's always puzzled me ever since Cyberpunk came out as it seems that there must not have been any QA done in that case.
Its hypocritical to come out with a statement like that when you just released the PC port of Last of us in the state its in
How does he say these things with a straight face, when he knows Sony pays for early access and to exclude features from Xbox every year?
Their complaint sounds like their execs got together said, "just write down sh*t that we would do..." If there are any bugs native to the PS version of the next CoD, they will say, "See! I told you! They did it on purpose!" 🤣
This guy probably thinks he should have input when his exes get married.
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So for example when the next gen consoles come out instead of sony getting a playstation 6 version of the latest COD they will get a PS5 version instead whilst xbox has the next gen version exclusively. Then yes that would cost playstation a lot of players
That's not going to happen because it would hurt COD sales on PlayStation and Microsoft are not stupid. By now we should all come to expect that Jim Ryan will say almost anything ( similarly Spencer but from the other side) that gets the deal blocked, to the point of claiming Microsoft will only release twin stick top down versions of COD on PlayStation consoles😅😅. He has to use any excuse he can think of..
@Sol4ris I know it's unlikely but that would be the only way i think Microsoft would make COD worse on playstation.
Lol at that twin stick comment, I'd expect that will be the switch version.
The only thing seriously damaging PlayStation at the minute is Jim Ryan. What an absolute idiot.
Playstation was a much better and more respected company before this moron got his hands on it, and I say that as a fellow Geordie!
So it's ok when Sony locksdown exclusive content it's ok?
Just to name few, Destiny and Hogwarts and Marvel's Avengers.
@IronMan30 I tried to Like your comment 100 times. It only allowed me to once.
Anyone know if Sony signed the ten year COD agreement?
I guess if not then they at the full mercy of Microsoft with COD.
@Dezzy70 If I were Microsoft, and they did not sign, I'd totally F them over at this point on principle. Was like we offered many, many times, all you did was bitch.
So Jim Ryan is afraid Microsoft will do the same thing Sony did to PC with the port of The Last of Us? Interesting...
@IronMan30 if only PS users clowned this hack as much as other players do. can you believe people actually think hes the best thing to ever happen to playstation ? LOL
Jim Ryan makes Sony seem more pathetic each time he speaks.
Crying Lying Dance Moves Jim Ryan at it again folks..
@Kaloudz definitely sticking him up the aliens ass, easy choice.
@UltimateOtaku91 There is a huge difference between "native" version on Xbox over PS5.
Seems Microsoft tags many last-gen games that have Series X|S enhancements (not achieved by FPS Boost) as "native": Sea of Thieves, Halo: MCC, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, etc.
A "native" version of a base Xbox One game (with Series X|S Enhancements) can be more or less achieved by setting a few metadata tags to make it a "native" Series X|S version on the frontend.
I think the only thing missing from Psychonauts 2 now when played on PS5 is HDR - which is probably handled using AutoHDR on Xbox anyways (similar to how Alan Wake Remastered is using AutoHDR for the Series X|S version). A Patch was released (that no one seemed to bother reporting on) that improved resolution and performance when played on PS5.
In other words, Psychonauts 2 is doing the same on Xbox as it is on PlayStation: using the last-gen build with next-gen enhancements. The Xbox has better last-gen enhancement capabilities. It just appears different on the Series X|S frontend due to how Microsoft defines a "native" Series X|S.
lol. 95% of games release today as glorified betas that aren't fully optimized for the platforms they are on.
If this is a true fear, then fix all the games including CoD that have issues on day one. LOL. I bought CoD Cold War on Day One. Got to the sniper/stealth mission and the console froze midway thru the mission in the exact same place 3 times before I gave up, and threw the game to the side for three months for them to fix it. Three months later, downloaded latest patches and it worked.
This is an unfortunate norm in the industry now, and the reason that I never buy games on day one anymore.... CoD Cold War and CyberPunk pushed me over the edge on Day One purchases of anything.
@Green-Bandit didn’t Microsoft offer Sony COD on PS+ too? Sony must really not trust Microsoft, can’t understand why they’re so hung up about it after Microsoft’s offer.
@IronMan30 Nailed it! Mr. Ryan will be unemployed in a few months… last chance for him to emote…
New game idea: Scapegoat simulator
@EvilSilentFrame Correct, because that would devalue COD and the brand of their ecosystem, hence why they keep minecraft up to snuff on all platforms. Since they are so versed in making console/pc/cloud moving forward and have been since all games started going day and date on PC they aren't going to jeopardize that.
I’m not a fan of Jim and I hope that Xbox wouldn’t do this…. But say what you want…. What he is actually saying is true.
If Sony got a last gen only version or whatever, or a non optimised version it would damage Sony forever:
Fact.
You just hope Xbox is above that.
@Stocksy Sorry but nothing he is saying is true. He is full of it.
So basically he is saying," don't do to us what we did to you". 😂 Oh the irony. Forgetting CoD is not their only moneymaker.or exclusive, I almost want MS to screw with them now. What a maroon!
This guy has moved into the "he disgusts me" territory. Instead of focusing on his own platform and pushing their studios to do what they do best, he's talking about Call of Duty and has been for the last year.
I struggle to think of any PlayStation exclusive that I'm excited about. And I've simply stopped investing into the PlayStation ecosystem for about a year now.
what people dont understand is that it will take more than 10 years for microsoft to make a cod game. lmao!!!!! yea, no more cod for sony.
I miss Shawn. He wasn't a whiney p****
1. He’s happy when it goes the other way
2. Isn’t there a deal on offer guaranteeing COD, with full parity, for 10 years? If so take it.
3. I really think this guy is clueless. It takes a while for changes of direction to really show their effect in the Games industry but he could turn out to be quite damaging to Playstation. They need someone better at the helm.
So what if Playstation 6 is poorly designed but the Series X2 is faster and better? So the PS6 cant hit 120fps in 8k but the S2 can. Will Sony complain still? I bet
Jim Ryan sweating at the mere idea of Sony having to make more than 4-5 games a console Gen with their two dozen IPs they keep dead.
OMG this guy is STILL going on about this thing that nobody even listened to him going on about last time he said it and even the one regulation body that he had the ear of also started ignoring him.....and he's STILL going at it?
I used to think Jim was an evil corporate exec running a games business like an oil company.
I'm now starting to think Jim is actually the keyboard warrior troll on every Reddit post about everything, ever, that keeps going on about the same nonsensical thing.
He's legit still trying to make the case that all it would take to destroy SIE forever is for MS to release a buggy CoD game, or charge more for it?!? The guy who keeps raising is prices? The guy who just released that PC port of TLOU? While MS is offering them a 10 year legally binding guarantee to not do exactly that and he refuses to sign it?? Seriously? Just.....SERIOUSLY??
@electrolite77 "I really think this guy is clueless. It takes a while for changes of direction to really show their effect in the Games industry but he could turn out to be quite damaging to Playstation. They need someone better at the helm."
I've been saying this since 2020 and get piled on constantly for it. But it's absolutely true.
Yaa I don't think Microsoft will do that. They won't make an worse version on playstation as they know it might hurt sales.
Sure they would rather people buy it on xbox as they would gain more profits from it but if the PS version is worse. How many playstation owners will go out and buy an xbox just to play it. The revenue from that would be far less then people buying the PS version of equal quality.
Jim is just acting like a big baby.
It's not Microsoft's fault that Sony was more worried about the outside of the PS5 than the inside of it. The only real difference will be that the Series X can handle ray tracing better.
@jordan1992 they did offer sony that, but of course sony won’t offer it in it’s service. But overall this makes sony look a little weak and makes it seem like all their first party success isn’t enough. Desperate move publicly in my opinion.
Oh man, now that the regulators besides the inept FTC have moved on from caring about Playstation and are only concerned about the cloud, you can really feel the desperation in this quote.
Playstation really enjoyed a monopoly for almost a decade. This is your brain on monopoly, apparently.
@ZuneTattooGuy There seems to be no discrepancies between Ray Tracing for PS5 and Xbox Series X, with both providing near-identical quality for RT shadows, ambient occlusion, and draw distance for foliage/geometry. Both aim for the same resolution target and seem to be utilizing dynamic resolution scaling.
@shoeses there are over a thousand more PS5 game than Series X games. If ya talking about exclusives i think Xbox has about 69 exclusives, PS5 has about 260!!
He should stop talking that way it feel like a guilty guy that doing already so behind close doors with square enix, capcom, i noticed a downgrade on some of those publisher last gen, it didn't started yesterday for messieux jim ryan he seems to know it and microsoft should dig further and find the truth and sue sony.
@jordan1992
Both systems are being handicapped by having games being made for last generation. But the Xbox Series X has a significant amount more of Cuda Cores at 52, compared to the PS5 at 36.
This is important in the near future when they truly push these machines
@cburg so if Sony get a worse version of cod or a later version or a buggy version Sony won’t be damaged? Because that is what he is saying. He is correct. Obviously.
As I say, no way do Xbox do that. They’ll want the Sony players money for the first few years at least. They’ll be hoping that even if both versions are the same the draw of a “free” version on GPU with “perks” will be enough to shift plenty of gamers over, which is to be fair also a good a solid strategy, so what he is saying is true, but it’s very doubtful xbox would do it, they’d have the power to though.
Jim Ryan is a ***** idiot.
It is both hilarious and utterly embarrassing reading this release by Sony. It stinks of sad desperation and wild accusations, not one single regulator globally believes them. And so because the CMA has investigated and seen through their lies, they attack the CMA effectively calling them thick and stupid? And yet only 2 weeks ago they were praising the CMA's efforts to seemingly disagree with the deal.
Sony you have lost, you have far overplayed your hand, take the L and save what ever face you have left. And I suggest you start to repair the damage you have done to your own studios, as you effectively threw them under a bus claiming only COD matters.
@ZuneTattooGuy The Dead Space remake already showed this, it is next gen only and runs much better on Xbox Series X then PS5 which couldn't handle variable rate shaders as it lacks the hardware for it.
@NEStalgia House and Tretton could see what was coming, hence they jumped ship. It is most definitely not the PlayStation they grew that's for sure, they both had far more class then Ryan does.
Does anyone listen to that greedy fart anymore?
Lol ugh, Ryan is the most hyperbolic, overly dramatic shyster. Ridiculous.
Fire Jim Ryan.
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@jordan1992 They do have more games because a lot of Japanese devs only bother or in some cases can only afford to release on PS & Nintendo. But I'm talking actual First-Party Exclusives, which it feels like Sony only releases 4 or 5 a Gen when they're sitting on a punch of unique stuff people want like say Twisted Metal.
I read that some time ago. And there's more:
One of the ways Microsoft could choose to circumvent its obligations would be to release buggy Call of Duty games for PlayStation, Sony claimed.
“Swiftly detecting any diversions from, and ensuring compliance with, a commitment as to technical or graphical quality would be challenging,” it said. “For example, Microsoft might release a PlayStation version of Call of Duty where bugs and errors emerge only on the game’s final level or after later updates.
It added: “Even if Microsoft operated in good faith, it would be incentivised to support and prioritise development of the Xbox version of the game, such as by using its best engineers and more of its resources. There would be no practical way for the CMA (or SIE) to monitor how Microsoft chooses to allocate its resources and the quality/quantity of engineers it devotes to the PlayStation version of Call of Duty, to ensure that Sony would be treated fairly and equally."
There are no limits for Sony's (and ponies') hypocrisy.
Ryan just loves to make stuff up! Arguably, Sony have been 'degrading' Call of Duty on the Xbox for the past decade. The PlayStation has had exclusive modes and exclusive skins, etc, for many years, and Xbox has had the poorer version of the game during that time. So, going by Ryan's comments, was its Sony's plan all along to damage the Xbox in such a way that it will never recover? Arguably it was, and it may go someway to explaining Sony's current dominance, and the current state of affairs on the Xbox....
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