@Medic_Alert I am not going to argue this. But if you mean the standard developer/publishing release saying you will send for cert, and agree to the breakdown of the sale proceed goes (standard) then sure yes there is a contract but at no point in those contracts do you sign saying yup I gurantee to release insert title in platform, unless a platform holder says hey we want this exclusive and release it here. If you want a good example of this go look at metro exodus on steam where they took preorders and said hey it's coming here but then switched to a timed exclusive for epic and pulled anyone preordering anymore. My ex significant other worked for a small game publisher house and would casually talk about this stuff that if there was no payment for timed exclusive until the very end you can just decided to not release on the platform. As if you did it any other way no one would even risk putting your games on the platform
@Medic_Alert those deals for psyconaughts outer worlds. Were not do to contracts but due to them already announcing it publicly what platforms it would come to. There is no contract to bring a game to a platform unless sony is giving them money or a marketing deal ala deathloop and tokyo. So at this point outside of the 2 mentioned or if sony and bethesda had any other agreements not already announced (say they already gave bethesda a cheque for marketing rights for starfield or say wolfenstein 3) outside of this microsoft can do whatever they want.
On the recent wpcentral gaming podcast jez said he heard from multiply sources that xbox was looking to lockup all bethesda game as 100% exclusive going forward. He is usually pretty reliable with his information
I forgot to add to my last post.. I really hope this doesn't lead to more gta4 issues... For those that don't know it's impossible to beat gta4 without a turbo controller on the series x/ one x
@LtSarge currently it's due to him having a game coming out in march so standard lead developer doing interviews.. but he gets very easily taken off path
To answer his question some developer get paid a lump sum up. For x time in game pass others get paid for hours played it's how the deals are negotiated and microsoft had been very open about this. My guess is he. Had only gone through ea for the last 6-8 years so he most likely hadn't had any reason to go to Microsoft's gdc conferences about this or there digital events for developers explaining all this
I think he is more wondering what type of games this will help create in the long run. Which is a interesting question . As I know gamepass has help keep things like sot and a few other games with alot of new users coming in over time
@JetmanUK rare is big but they have a team on sea of theieves which is a full job keeping up with updates and all other bodies are working on everwild. With maybe a few left over to assist with projects like battletoads
@Tasuki fighting games are quite hard to create and you would want specific team to handle that and even with all the aquistions not a single one is designed to create a fighting game
@Tharsman I wish I could like your post more tharsman. All companies change (look at Blizzard they are a shell of there former self and so is BioWare) as people move on
Also alot of people forget even after Phil Spencer took overthe Xbox division under Balmer was in the devices group and the guy who ran that reportedly hated video games and didn't think Microsoft had any business in that sector. It wasn't until Nedella took over that the vision in ms was clear that Xbox needed it's own gaming division in Microsoft and for the last 3 years we have been seeing the payoff for this with a ton of acqusitions, new studio and investments in things like xcloud and ect ect
@uptownsoul oh my bad I read a article on another site saying differently but looked it up apparently 2k must have some kind of first look/ right to publish deal for borderlands.
@Tharsman this could be due to alot of the behind the scenes stuff. Remember gearbox was in the news alot before borderlands 3 came out and not for the right reasons. Also they only have one good hit witt borderlands everything else kinda flopped
@Tharsman See I read it as say wait xbox secured this as exclusive meaning a game in a series that is either not on xbox or multiplat
Honestly unless these "insiders" either outright say the name of the studio or give a good hint at what type of game it is (or studio). I call bs as at any point any youtuber could start spewing this stuff and look like they are right come end of year. As microsoft hinted and pretty much stated they are not slowing down on acquisitions
@ThanosReXXX I do agree it is highly unlikely to be ubisoft but saying vivendi is more powerful then microsoft is jusy crazy.
I doubt activision /blizzard they are just a cod factory and not worth the 2 games you get a year for the most likely 15+ bill it would cost
My guess is sega, capcom , square or the more likely thing them announce the purchase of say 10 mid/large size developers all at once to be the same as a publisher purchase
@Krzzystuff there is far to many smaller studios and companies like tencent. From my understanding to get got. Buying sony would be the only thing that would raise an eyebrow.
In a weird way come on square. Having that catalog if jrpgs would really help xcloud in thst territory
This happens quite often (not xbox controllers) Just battery's in general. My guess was a rechargeable ion battery when it compressed it. Sparks caught other garbage on fire.. Some garbage dumps see this weekly
I dunno who is big like bethesda big maybe ubisoft... But I said this awhile ago. The entire industry is cosoldating it his mass penetration a few years ago and microsoft so the writing and starting gobbling studios early. Even nintendo is grabbing a few studios .
@Bmartin001 I really like jez.and I appreciate rands opinions but I find he gets really really defensive on each podcast. He could just not mention some of the negative twitter /pms he gets but decided he has to bring them up alot.
@Tharsman @LtSarge If you read the article this list is based on they call it out themselves saying they are not exclusives "These ones aren’t technically exclusive, but it’s the first time these games are coming to Xbox and Xbox Game Pass, so we’re pretty excited. "
I don't think this is anything to do with exclusivity (I still think unless lucasfilm games agreement was have it on everything) this tweet is just saying he wants to see/hear more. On what there idea for it will be. Remember until the deal is finalized they cannot go in and make business decisions
There was a magic the gathering game the demo was a multiplayer one.. was in college and pretty sure we burnt out the disc drive playing that demo. Just winner stays and passing controllers around while drinking ... Good times
@gollumb82 I feel anyone that didn't grow up playing the older jrpg titles will most likely not enjoy them. It's the story that drives those games, as up until say the 360, PS3 generation story in games outside of RPGs was non existent. So XV and KH is more what you will probably enjoy
@gollumb82 XV gameplay is action based and is real time combat. Any mainline final fantasy X and below use a turn based combat system so unless your into that style of game will feel very dated by today's standards
Agree with all but Microsoft buying moon studios. There is no benefit to do so. They don't own any office (retail space) no real tech, nor any of there own ips. You would be paying for just a handful of people who can at any point quit after getting the pay cheque.. again no benefit
@Murray My sorry should say my guess it would need to increase. As for 15.00 you are getting every bethesda, ea (older) , ubisoft and microsoft title not including the tons of indie games that are always in and out of the service
I don't believe these rumours but there was quite a few sources saying that horizon 5 was next year and so was starfield (before the acquisition some sony insiders said sony was trying to make it exclusive like deathloop and ghost of tokyo )
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Re: Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 1 + 2 Is Coming To Xbox Series X, But There’s A Catch
@Trmn8r my guess is they did take it into account. Why we are seeing them ported but most likely unable to do cross purchase.
Or you know activision 2-3 years ago when starting these games.. not thinking about cross buy
Re: Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 1 + 2 Is Coming To Xbox Series X, But There’s A Catch
My guess is licensing.. music soundtracks are not cheap why very few games due it nowadays because it can ***** porting a game
Re: Expect Microsoft To Host Bethesda Event Sometime In Mid-March, Says Industry Insider
@Medic_Alert I am not going to argue this.
But if you mean the standard developer/publishing release saying you will send for cert, and agree to the breakdown of the sale proceed goes (standard) then sure yes there is a contract but at no point in those contracts do you sign saying yup I gurantee to release insert title in platform, unless a platform holder says hey we want this exclusive and release it here.
If you want a good example of this go look at metro exodus on steam where they took preorders and said hey it's coming here but then switched to a timed exclusive for epic and pulled anyone preordering anymore.
My ex significant other worked for a small game publisher house and would casually talk about this stuff that if there was no payment for timed exclusive until the very end you can just decided to not release on the platform.
As if you did it any other way no one would even risk putting your games on the platform
Re: Expect Microsoft To Host Bethesda Event Sometime In Mid-March, Says Industry Insider
@Medic_Alert those deals for psyconaughts outer worlds. Were not do to contracts but due to them already announcing it publicly what platforms it would come to.
There is no contract to bring a game to a platform unless sony is giving them money or a marketing deal ala deathloop and tokyo.
So at this point outside of the 2 mentioned or if sony and bethesda had any other agreements not already announced (say they already gave bethesda a cheque for marketing rights for starfield or say wolfenstein 3) outside of this microsoft can do whatever they want.
On the recent wpcentral gaming podcast jez said he heard from multiply sources that xbox was looking to lockup all bethesda game as 100% exclusive going forward. He is usually pretty reliable with his information
Re: It's Official, Stubbs The Zombie Is Returning To Xbox This March
@Vincent294 hahaha I never looked at the cover for that game in years.. has any other game put built on an engine right there.. weird
Re: It's Official, Stubbs The Zombie Is Returning To Xbox This March
@Nermannn
Haha also if I remember it ran on the halo one engine
Re: Microsoft Unveils The First Batch Of 'FPS Boost' Games For Xbox Series X|S
I forgot to add to my last post.. I really hope this doesn't lead to more gta4 issues...
For those that don't know it's impossible to beat gta4 without a turbo controller on the series x/ one x
Re: Microsoft Unveils The First Batch Of 'FPS Boost' Games For Xbox Series X|S
This is cool news ... But I was hoping for some more 360 games added to bc
Re: A Way Out Creator Weighs In On Xbox Game Pass Again, Says He's Not Sure About The Model
@LtSarge currently it's due to him having a game coming out in march so standard lead developer doing interviews.. but he gets very easily taken off path
To answer his question some developer get paid a lump sum up. For x time in game pass others get paid for hours played it's how the deals are negotiated and microsoft had been very open about this.
My guess is he. Had only gone through ea for the last 6-8 years so he most likely hadn't had any reason to go to Microsoft's gdc conferences about this or there digital events for developers explaining all this
Re: Metro Exodus For Xbox Series X Will Run At 4K, 60FPS With Raytracing
@FraserG awesome!! I'll wait to play it then as I bought it during the holiday sale
Re: Metro Exodus For Xbox Series X Will Run At 4K, 60FPS With Raytracing
Do we know if it will support smart delivery or a free upgrade?
Re: Overcooked! All You Can Eat Serves Up An Xbox One Version This March
@FraserG damn... Oh well
Re: A Way Out Director Says He Prefers PlayStation's 'Strategy' Over Xbox
I think he is more wondering what type of games this will help create in the long run.
Which is a interesting question . As I know gamepass has help keep things like sot and a few other games with alot of new users coming in over time
Re: Minecraft Dungeons Hits 10 Million Players, New Content Coming Soon
@ObeseChihuahua2
Yup most company's talking about engagement will use total hours/years to describe time spent.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Wants A New Killer Instinct, But No Developers Are Available To Make It
@JetmanUK rare is big but they have a team on sea of theieves which is a full job keeping up with updates and all other bodies are working on everwild. With maybe a few left over to assist with projects like battletoads
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Wants A New Killer Instinct, But No Developers Are Available To Make It
@Tasuki fighting games are quite hard to create and you would want specific team to handle that and even with all the aquistions not a single one is designed to create a fighting game
Re: Halo: The Master Chief Collection Is Getting A 'New Place & Way To Play'
Epic store. They hinted at starting to bring titles to that store
Re: Microsoft Was Reportedly Looking Into Acquiring Gearbox Software
@Tharsman
I wish I could like your post more tharsman. All companies change (look at Blizzard they are a shell of there former self and so is BioWare) as people move on
Also alot of people forget even after Phil Spencer took overthe Xbox division under Balmer was in the devices group and the guy who ran that reportedly hated video games and didn't think Microsoft had any business in that sector.
It wasn't until
Nedella took over that the vision in ms was clear that Xbox needed it's own gaming division in Microsoft and for the last 3 years we have been seeing the payoff for this with a ton of acqusitions, new studio and investments in things like xcloud and ect ect
Re: Microsoft Was Reportedly Looking Into Acquiring Gearbox Software
@uptownsoul oh my bad I read a article on another site saying differently but looked it up apparently 2k must have some kind of first look/ right to publish deal for borderlands.
Re: Microsoft Was Reportedly Looking Into Acquiring Gearbox Software
I think it would have been a terrible deal for around 1.3 billion, my understanding is Borderlands is owned by 2k games.
So outside of a team that makes pretty medicore games you get the great IPs like godfall, battleborn and of course Duke Nukem....
Re: Microsoft's GM Of Cloud Gaming Says Console Exclusive Games 'Aren't The Answer'
The comment is way to vague you could interpt as Bethesda games going to every console.
you could also look at it meaning we treat exclusives differently With us putting them on xcloud, family of Xbox devices, and on multiply PC stores
Re: Judge Agrees To Pull Xbox Controller Drift Lawsuit Out Of Court
@XBontendo where it wasn't an elite just base controllers and launch at that well past any warranty
Re: Judge Agrees To Pull Xbox Controller Drift Lawsuit Out Of Court
2 of my launch xbox one controllers both have it. On so badly that you cannot use it
Re: Borderlands Dev Gearbox Has Been Acquired By Embracer Group
@Tharsman this could be due to alot of the behind the scenes stuff. Remember gearbox was in the news alot before borderlands 3 came out and not for the right reasons.
Also they only have one good hit witt borderlands everything else kinda flopped
Re: These 7 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (February 4-11)
Well here is hoping with stealth inc hitting game pass.. they will fix community mode
Re: Project xCloud Competitor Google Stadia Closes Its Internal Studios
@Hypnotoad107 exact building a studio ground up takes quite a bit.
Not even just microsoft but even sony rarely builds its own studos.
Re: Feature: Games We'd Love To See Added To Xbox Backwards Compatibility In 2021
Would love for them to continue bringing some 360 titles gave quite a few digitally that would love to play again
Re: Rumour: YouTuber Hints At Surprise Xbox Exclusive & Acquisition In 2021
@Tharsman
See I read it as say wait xbox secured this as exclusive meaning a game in a series that is either not on xbox or multiplat
Honestly unless these "insiders" either outright say the name of the studio or give a good hint at what type of game it is (or studio).
I call bs as at any point any youtuber could start spewing this stuff and look like they are right come end of year. As microsoft hinted and pretty much stated they are not slowing down on acquisitions
Re: Xbox Exec Asks Fans To 'Speak Up' If You Want A Halo x Tesla Collab
@XBontendo
Haha glad someone else thinks the same way.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft In Talks For Another Bethesda Level Acquisition
@ThanosReXXX I do agree it is highly unlikely to be ubisoft but saying vivendi is more powerful then microsoft is jusy crazy.
I doubt activision /blizzard they are just a cod factory and not worth the 2 games you get a year for the most likely 15+ bill it would cost
My guess is sega, capcom , square or the more likely thing them announce the purchase of say 10 mid/large size developers all at once to be the same as a publisher purchase
Re: Rumour: Microsoft In Talks For Another Bethesda Level Acquisition
@Krzzystuff there is far to many smaller studios and companies like tencent. From my understanding to get got. Buying sony would be the only thing that would raise an eyebrow.
In a weird way come on square. Having that catalog if jrpgs would really help xcloud in thst territory
Re: After Less Than A Year, Ninja Theory Is Moving On From Bleeding Edge
Was a great game. But only kf your team communicated. You would get stomped otherwise
Re: Warner Bros' Future Games Will Have 'A Heavy Focus On Live Service'
Makes sense, almost all there announced games seem to focus on live service style offerings.
Sucidie squad
Arkham knight
Mortal kombat( still going)
Re: Random: Disposed Xbox Controller Named The Culprit In UK Waste Fire
This happens quite often (not xbox controllers)
Just battery's in general. My guess was a rechargeable ion battery when it compressed it. Sparks caught other garbage on fire..
Some garbage dumps see this weekly
Re: Microsoft Reportedly Seeking To Acquire 'Big Names' For Future Buyouts
I dunno who is big like bethesda big maybe ubisoft... But I said this awhile ago. The entire industry is cosoldating it his mass penetration a few years ago and microsoft so the writing and starting gobbling studios early. Even nintendo is grabbing a few studios .
Re: Xbox Reportedly Has 'At Least Two' Big Unannounced Games For 2021
@Nerdfather1 hades would be a great get for gamepass.
The rumours I heard is they have secured another studio and that studio had an unnanounced game which will be coming to xbox this year.
But shrugsbi dunno anythjng anymore but the end of 2022 you either are fully small indie or owned by own of the remaining like 5 publishers haha
Re: Xbox Reportedly Has 'At Least Two' Big Unannounced Games For 2021
@Bmartin001 I really like jez.and I appreciate rands opinions but I find he gets really really defensive on each podcast. He could just not mention some of the negative twitter /pms he gets but decided he has to bring them up alot.
Re: Xbox Has 'Quite A Few' Games Still To Announce For 2021, Says DICE Dev
@JGRockford yes mech warrior 5 is hitting xbox excluslivy (no idea if timed or not due to how the license works) I think this spring
Re: Xbox Highlights 30 Console Launch Exclusives Arriving In 2021
@Tharsman @LtSarge
If you read the article this list is based on they call it out themselves saying they are not exclusives
"These ones aren’t technically exclusive, but it’s the first time these games are coming to Xbox and Xbox Game Pass, so we’re pretty excited. "
Re: Harry Potter Action RPG Hogwarts Legacy Delayed To 2022
@blinx01 my thoughts exactly.. I can see depending on units shipped for ps5 and series x them dropping that version
Re: Head Of Xbox 'Excited' About New Indiana Jones Game And Can't Wait To 'Learn More'
I don't think this is anything to do with exclusivity (I still think unless lucasfilm games agreement was have it on everything) this tweet is just saying he wants to see/hear more.
On what there idea for it will be.
Remember until the deal is finalized they cannot go in and make business decisions
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Favourite Xbox Demo Disc Memories?
There was a magic the gathering game the demo was a multiplayer one.. was in college and pretty sure we burnt out the disc drive playing that demo. Just winner stays and passing controllers around while drinking ... Good times
Re: These 10+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (Jan 12-15)
@WesEds as long as you own it can still play it regardless of the license expiring .I played the 360 version about a month ago
Re: Don't Worry, More Final Fantasy Games Are Still Coming To Xbox Game Pass
@gollumb82
I feel anyone that didn't grow up playing the older jrpg titles will most likely not enjoy them. It's the story that drives those games, as up until say the 360, PS3 generation story in games outside of RPGs was non existent.
So XV and KH is more what you will probably enjoy
Re: Don't Worry, More Final Fantasy Games Are Still Coming To Xbox Game Pass
@gollumb82
XV gameplay is action based and is real time combat.
Any mainline final fantasy X and below use a turn based combat system so unless your into that style of game will feel very dated by today's standards
Re: Don't Worry, More Final Fantasy Games Are Still Coming To Xbox Game Pass
I figured it was always gonna be a drip feed. Most gamers don't have the time to complete a 60-100 hour game with a few months.
Re: These 7 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (January 7-14)
I don't really care for this first half of the month list. Here is hoping second half is a bit better
Re: Feature: Here Are Our Xbox Predictions For 2021
Agree with all but Microsoft buying moon studios.
There is no benefit to do so. They don't own any office (retail space) no real tech, nor any of there own ips. You would be paying for just a handful of people who can at any point quit after getting the pay cheque.. again no benefit
Re: Rumour Suggests Ubisoft+ Could Join Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
@Murray
My sorry should say my guess it would need to increase. As for 15.00 you are getting every bethesda, ea (older) , ubisoft and microsoft title not including the tons of indie games that are always in and out of the service
Re: 'Rumour' Suggests Ubisoft+ Could Join Xbox Game Pass, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
@carlos82
I don't believe these rumours but there was quite a few sources saying that horizon 5 was next year and so was starfield (before the acquisition some sony insiders said sony was trying to make it exclusive like deathloop and ghost of tokyo )