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@themightyant I thought we had already established we don't have any accurate data for game pass?

Or can you provide the accurate data to show the breakdown of Starfield players on game pass and what device they play on and for how long?

The data we have does say that, but the data we don't have access to could change that

@themightyant its the only information we have available, so its the best we have, and it says that Starfield was way more popular on PC, and it was not even remotely close.

Now if we ever get granular game pass figures, maybe we could revisit it and come up with a different answer, but I am not sure why they would ever release those figures to the public. But i for one would find it very interesting

@themightyant my comment says sales. As we do not get game pass numbers or breakdown, its the only thing we have to go from that is reliable. And it sold way more on PC

@themightyant 2/3 of Starfield sales in the UK were on PC not console, as mentioned in the article.
Bethesda is a traditional PC developer, long before they released a console game, and that is where the bulk of their audience plays

I have it, and I also still have the day one controller that you got, and it's still sparkly new, never used once.

I have been lucky enough to have every single console since the snes day one

@Mephisto2869 in a perfect world yes, but as nothing is perfect, I would say over the next 1-3years yes, that would be a more reasonable guess, as delays etc can happen

@Mephisto2869 before 2018 Microsoft hardly had any studios, mainly only studios dedicated to Halo, Forza and Gears. Games this generation take approx. 6 years to make, so we should start to see the fruits of their labour soon. Where's the games? They are currently being made...

@themightyant for now yes, but not for long I worry

Please god I hope he doesn't become the next CEO of Playstation

Grainger games, Blockbuster, EB, Gamestop have all closed for good near(ish) to me.

5 GAME stores have closed within 45minutes and we are left with 2 completely pointless tiny satellite shops in Sports Direct stores that sell more Funko pops than games.

Tesco, Sainsburys etc no longer sell games in store

The only brick and mortar stores i can think of that still sell games are Currys and Smyths and the sections are not good

As someone who still buys and prefers physical media, the writing is sadly on the wall. Its going to end up like PC gaming in the not too distant future

@awp69 This site has become the home of xbox concern trolling

Got to love them still trying to save face and pretend they didn't fold like a cheap suit. Its adorable

"With the sale of Activision’s cloud streaming rights to Ubisoft, we’ve made sure Microsoft can’t have a stranglehold over this important and rapidly developing market. As cloud gaming grows, this intervention will ensure people get more competitive prices, better services and more choice. We are the only competition agency globally to have delivered this outcome."

The last sentence shows its all about trying to save face.

I also like how they also try to bury the fact its only for 15years, only mentioning it once in the whole press release lol

The other mind blowing fact is the CMA expect Ubisoft to be a huge player in cloud gaming, when they don't even own their own cloud gaming service, they use Lunar, and it's only available on PC.

Ever since the ABK deal and Starfield, the online discourse/hatred towards all things xbox has gotten worse and worse.

There's a weird subset of gamers who are outraged that xbox finally has some games

On xbox I'm playing Starfield currently lvl 34. On PS5 I am finishing up ff7 remake and I am on chapter 17. After I finish ff7 I am going to try cyberpunk again. I did not like it before 2.0, so we will see how I feel after the update

@S1ayeR74 they said day 1 gamepass at the trial mate

I have not played it enough yet to give my final verdict, 45hours played but still only on the second story mission (when you go back to the starting mine planet) but it's been a great game so far

@EvenStephen7 @S1ayeR74 COD will be on gamepass from 2025 it was revealed in the CAT court case with the CMA, unless circumstances or contracts have changed since then, which is always possible

The only difference I can really see is trackside detail is massively improved in forza. The rest looks pretty similar

I played it a few months ago and thought the whole thing was massively underwhelming, and that was before you even mention the bugs and constant crashing. I am yet to try 2.0, but a friend who has played it says its still very buggy and crashes alot and he has no idea how it reviewed so good

I would prefer Evil Within 3 than Hi Fi Rush 2, but maybe we are all lucky and we get both? I know Tango have more than 1 team

As a fellow Newcastle United fan all I have to say is well played Jim. Agree or not with their current trajectory, you cant deny his sucess as a CEO.

@Dan1283 "What about a performance mode on series s though? I'm guessing not then but if the series s is going be 30 fps and the series x 60 moving forward what is the point of a series s?"

the point of the series s is to provide a way for people to play the game at a lower price point. What a weird comment lol

I would never pay for early acess for any game ever.

It's only a thing now as very few people have self control or patience anymore.

On xbox I am playing Starfield, currently at lvl 30m and on PS5 I am playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake and I am up to chapter 11

@OldGamer999 @S1ayeR74 In the CAT trial MS said that COD will be comming day 1 to gamepass in 2025, as Sony have a contract in place preventing it until then. Unless there has been a new contract or change in circumstance since then.

But they did not mention if its stops older COD games comming to gamepass as soon as possible or not

Other titles from ABK like Diablo should go to gamepass asap

Never played redfall but i just want to know what ID are up to. They are one of my favourite developers

I played cyberpunk around Easter time on my PS5, as I got a cheap copy from Amazon, and though it was pretty rubbish to be honest. Its was all just a bit underwhelming. But interested if this 2.0 update will change my mind and willing to give it another go as I never trade in my games

@Titntin I haven't edited any of my original posts since you @ me. I have no interest in any console without a disc drive, unless I am forced kicking and screaming and there is no other option. You have a good day 2 buddy

@Titntin I meant processing power, not storage capacity. Sorry I though that would have been obvious to anybody.

If I add an extra SSD to my series X it doesn't magically make it a pro console

I support console manufacturers buying devs or publishers to help fill gaps in their portfolio. But I would not support Ms buying nintendo, or any of the console manufacturers buying one of the others. Competition is king and we need 3 healthy competitors in the industry, so we all win.

@S1ayeR74 according to the leaks it is not more powerful. But it is more energy efficient. Its just a sku refresh from the information we have, nothing more nothing less

@Ep_13 I think it's a mistake, and I personally won't be buying one if it does not have a disc drive

@S1ayeR74 they said they were not releasing a mid gen upgraded pro, and it looks like they are not. This is an revised series x and s, just replacing the older model with a refresh. Not a higher spec'd machine.

Think it's a mistake not including a disc drive in the top of the range console

So far I would go for a 9 but that could go up or down.

I have figured out things like using the scanner properly to navigate and how to identify which biome you are in for the fauna and how to unlock the planet traits etc.

Still have yet to try the space combat, base and ship building or any of the crafting/research. Maybe il give one a go tonight.

Still need to start the first Constellation mission...

I saw a post on twitter before the game launched and they were bragging about making 100s of accounts to review bomb Starfield. The sad part is, I actually thought they were joking!

Is anyone else refusing to move to the next moon/planet until you have researched all the forna, fauna etc or is it just me.

Found some angry weird spider like thing on jamieson or whatever its called and I swear one of them was trying to dragon call Fus Ro Dah me from miles away

I am hooked so far. Really great game

The music in this game is so awesome. Even the Mrs loves it!

Surprised by the graphic fidelity, a huge leap compared to their previous games.

Only played an hour, so cannot give any definitive verdicts yet, but I have enjoyed the start

The footage they showed at the recent direct looked great fun

The concerned trolling is getting out of hand

@Fiendish-Beaver I know. That's why I replied to you with some additional information you may not be aware of

@Fiendish-Beaver they are two totally different games, based on totally different engines, targetting different platforms (halo is crossgen). If i was to guess based on the information we have, they are not linked at all

@InterceptorAlpha "No necessarily Halo as it was cross gen, but Forza dropping it was definitely a S issue"

Phil Spencer confirmed to IGN at Gamescon that Forza missing split screen is nothing to do with the hardware capabilities of the X or S and is to do with prioritising resources.

"So if we think about Forza, it has nothing to do with any kind of hardware thing on S and X, just where they wanted to focus their time.

We obviously see the data in terms of how many people play local co-op for games. I love local co-op. Shout out to Vampire Survivors that just launched it. Fantastic. But there's also just a, let's go where the play is, in terms of where we're going to focus our dev resources."

You are conflating two separate issues

@Fiendish-Beaver according to the Phil Spencer Gamescon interview over on IGN, Forza Motorsport lacking split screen has nothing to do with the hardware capabilities of the S or X.

"So if we think about Forza, it has nothing to do with any kind of hardware thing on S and X, just where they wanted to focus their time.

We obviously see the data in terms of how many people play local co-op for games. I love local co-op. Shout out to Vampire Survivors that just launched it. Fantastic. But there's also just a, let's go where the play is, in terms of where we're going to focus our dev resources."

Seems a lot of people on here are conflating 2 separate issues

Considering almost all games have released on the S and X, with no problems. I really don't know why anyone would think the S would be dropped because of not even a handful of edge cases, where the studio themselves have admitted to not having the resources to work on several versions simultaneously.

Back in the day I loved stalker. Let's hope this is just as great

@Kaloudz its a wierd deal all round. Ubisoft + is currently PC and Xbox only, only Ubisoft Classics is available on Playstation.

So the Ubisoft + deal provides these games to pc and xbox gamers, who already have access to them via xcloud and gamepass.....

And Ubisofts cloud streaming is actually through Luna, so that is weird as well

@Kaloudz
"We're excited to announce a new agreement that will bring Activision Blizzard games to Ubisoft+ via streaming upon the completion of Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard!"

Seems its Streaming only, which would make sense, as that was the CMA's only concern

@antifyre Ubisoft plus including streaming is £14.99 a month, almost the same price as gamepass ultimate.

Never say never, but I very much doubt this will be included in gamepass ultimate, at the same price