Well, The Forza Motorsport Vs. Gran Turismo 7 Comparisons Are Already Rolling In

Think Forza seem to have some things going for it visually, like certain lightings and some track details.

But I must say, for a game that has been 6 years in development, in development 1.5 years longer than GT7 and next gen only, I think GT7 is visually better overall. From the car models, materials, overall lighting, etc. GT7 still looks visually stunning.

Certain things in Forza just look wrong. I.e some of the car models seem to be straight up pulled from their older games and this washed out look of the game which is clearly an artistic choice. GT on the other hand has more contrast and punchy colours.

They have a different approach! GT 7 is a moving art gallery and FM more down to earth and dirty. Gameplay wise I prefer FM, feels way more realistic and I love the granular dialing in of the difficulty and choosing starting position. Also the cars in GT 7 may seem to avoid you and not hit you, but it is an illusion. You just simply do not feel those small hits and even barely a full crash on another car. In FM you feel every contact and crash really feels and is very visual on the cars.

Love the Photo part of GT 7 though, with a huge number of locations to photograph in. And the Cafe menu is cozy.

It’s funny in that video how both games trade back and forth on which looks better. I ultimately think Forza might have better environments and GT7 might have better car models.

But either way, both are fantastic and do their own thing with their own style. If you’re a racing fan you can’t go with having both.

Also gran turismo has split screen

@Kaloudz it’s a PX video no?

Ignore me, it’s IGN.

I thought Forza's washed-out appearance was due to the bug with HDR, but this video suggests it was an artistic choice.

Well hopefully Xbox sees the criticism of the graphics and other things so they make some kind of update soon

The only difference I can really see is trackside detail is massively improved in forza. The rest looks pretty similar

Most people seem to think GT7 looks better, but I wouldn't agree. Both seem to have pros and cons to me, GT7 has better looking cars, FM has more detailed foliage and side of the road objects.
However, one thing I feel nobody else is mentioning and is so annoying to me: FM tire tracks. Why, oh why, are there tire tracks on the road pointing in all unnatural directions, just to make track feel more realistic? There is no physically possible way car could take some of those trajectories while either driving or crashing!! (I'm used to looking at tire tracks as they indicate potentially good routes/trajectories to take, I know, I'm weird).

Tough to say. Think the in game racing graphics are better on GT7 while the replay better on FM. Does FM have motion blur set to extreme or something? It make it all look faster than on GT7 even though they are travelling the same speeds around the track. That along with the colour looking VHS on FM vs 4K on GT7 makes the replay look more realistic on FM.
Have to say I'm completely addicted to GT7 and its one of my most played games this gen so interested to see if FM can drag me away from GT7 finally!

I would say both look pretty similar from a graphical capabilities standpoint.

The issue with comparison shots is that Forza does have a dynamic time of day, so comparing that aspect is going to be difficult to a game that has a hand-crafted look. When I look outside, it doesn't always look perfect. Looking out my window right now at 8:08 AM, the color of the trees and grass outside look like Forza, not GT7.

Also, I think the cars in GT7 are too shiny. Racecars don't look like they just came off the showroom floor. Sure, it makes for a nice presentation, but it looks weird on a racetrack.

Track detail is better in Forza.

It really just boils down to personal taste: do you prefer Hollywood set pieces or realism (and there is no wrong answer, some people prefer the fantasy)?

I bought Gran Turismo 7 back when it released, and I was pretty disappointed by it, to be honest. I expected it to look much better than it did. Sure, the replays looked great, but GT has always had good looking replays. I don't care about replays, and I hardly ever watch them.
Aside from a few flashes of brilliance, the game looked pretty bland.
I even compared it to Forza 7 on the same tracks to see if I was imagining it. There were parts of Forza 7 that actually looked better.
I still played a ton of GT7 but I expected a graphical powerhouse to showcase my shiny new PS5 and I just wasn't seeing it.

I haven't played FM2023 yet so I can't compare.

@Kaloudz Welcome to the covert console wars, my friend 😂

They both look superb, but there is one place where GT7 shines that Forza hasn't followed yet: VR. It's something you have to experience for yourself in order to appreciate in terms of immersion.

Both look great. Both play great. Both are great options if you want a fun racing game.

I am three cups into Forza and having a great time. Some remarkable about it, is not once has it asked for me to purchase any premium currency or cars. Something I can't say that GT7 was kind about, that game feels like it was built with Roblox because it pesters you all the time for more money

@ZuneTattooGuy
I call BS on this. Played GT7 from release and not once have I ever been 'pestered for money'. Meanwhile Forza releases with a pack that gives you double money for ever - I'm being pestered for money before I've even played it.

Getting back to common sense, and the article - they are both fantastic looking games, though I'll conceded as I'm a Game Pass player I'm having to use videos to make comparisons.
I thought this would be a clear win for Forza as its next gen only, but in reality, its not that clear cut. I do prefer the pop of colours on GT7, but I also prefer the extra roadside details of forza.
What really matters though is the feeling of driving and with both games looking good, its going to be that driving experience that ultimately determines if the game is good or not. I have no doubts that Forza will deliver a great racing experience, and I enjoy the feel of GT7 too, so both are winners.

If your not a shill for one company over another, you are lucky to have two exceptional circuit racing games to enjoy.

@Thumper Yeah I've read that a few times now. Is it artistic choice or a bug??

@Titntin spot on, everything you said is spot on. I'll enjoy both for years to come, and graphical details and nitpicks won't be an issue.

@BeerIsAwesome If permanent double credits as part of a premium pack isn't pay to win I don't know what is.

I'm just blown away that GT7 trades blows with Forza for graphics.

Despite the fact that GT7 is cross gen, has better handling physics, has split screen, all while being in development nearly 2 years less. It even has VR support.

Will play FM next week on my daughters xbox (thanks Kiddo x). I love GT7. I think both games deliver what they're meant to, and thats what counts. Also I agree with @Titntin, in that I've never been pestered into buying anything for GT7

Big fan of both. Got VR2 and GT is superb in it. Really looking forward to getting hold of Forza, I know it's not the same but had a lot of fun with FH5.

@BBB Thanks for the clarification dude, I was a little concerned at that.
I am still a bit concerned about the upgrade path grind, as several outlets have stated how much of a grind it is but Ill get to see for myself soon enough. As long as the racing is fun, thats the main thing..

@Jimboss
https://gamerant.com/gran-turismo-7-microtransactions-fan-anger-pricing-issue-explained/

GT 7 is better in visuals but Forza, for whatever reason, has always been more fun to play and that remains the case with the latest game.

@Gamer83 Main reason would be that Forza is more arcade while GT is more on the sim side of things.

Though even GT isn't as simmy as some games.

@InterceptorAlpha
That definitely factors in. I've always felt like I have more control when playing Forza so that's going to lead to a better experience.

Just have to say, having played both, I can definitely say that Forza feels better to play. Turn 10 has surpassed Polyphony in that regard ever since the first Motorsport came out.

@ZuneTattooGuy I feel like this has to be said again... especially in light of an article you linked.
Real life, it takes 30 minutes for a mediocre player to finish a clean race with a 765000 credits reward. If they are selling 100000 credits for 2 dollars, let them. Always. If somebody is lazy enough to accept that pricing, f*ck them. They should be bleed dry.
Keeping in mind time/reward ratio I just mentioned, in my opinion internet really overreacted over nothing. So business as usual.

I like both games. Both games look good. The RT on Forza is impressive. In terms of gameplay I think I prefer Forzas driving and simple career mode. GT7 looks fancy with the carpg elements but the mtx put me off.

Both games look great, though GT7 is somewhat inconsistent with some tracks being plucked from GT Sport and others built specifically for it looking better, though apparently that's the same for some cars on Forza.

What Forza will benefit from is dynamic time of day and weather on all tracks and whilst I had fun with GT7, it's chase cam is beyond awful and its racing became tiresome just starting from the back forever and the less said about having cars out of stock, the better

@Titntin yeah played about 100 hours of GT7 and never seen anything about buying credit. Agree with the whole 'gameplay' over graphics. Never really enjoyed any GT games before but GT7 is incredibly addictive. Haven't yet enjoyed a Forza game but very interested in this one and pretty sure it'll have nothing to do with the graphics if I do enjoy it.

@BRT15 because they worked on improving GT 6 models it gives you a shortcut to improve the visuals

In the other side forza was built from ground and created a RPG system for the game to build on in the future so it will be easier for them to do the same

@Darylb88 How would you rate the durability of career mode (single player) from your first impressions? Does Forza seem to stay interesting for longer than GT7 did?

Both games are boring ...even playing gt In vr gets boring pretty quick.....but that's just me ...get bored of racing games pretty quick ...always have ...when I get into careers and the laps start increasing ...I find it so tedious

Graphics don’t matter and I would say that ‘I’m disappointed by both.

As far as gameplay (I only do SP) the little I have played so far of Forza has it slightly ahead due to the fact that GT felt like it was an overtake challenge game. Some races had the lead car over 2 corners down the track.

GT does have the brilliant VR bug sons cars had some dodgy handling.

As long as you enjoy what you are playing does it matter which is supposedly better.

I have both and when I got GT7, I really was disappointed in how it looked. Forza Motorsport did not disappoint. Now I haven’t gone back to do a direct comparison (maybe GT7 has gotten some updates?) But all I can say is that I think FM looks phenomenal.

@BRT15 “ this washed out look of the game which is clearly an artistic choice. GT on the other hand has more contrast and punchy colours.”

The funny part is that it used to GT with the washed out realistic look while Forza had the more contrast and punchy colors… but people complained about Forza. Now they switched.

Why does GT7 look like sunglass are on? everything seems to be darker and duller. I assume this is a setting in game?

I haven't played either of them yet but from the video and to my untrained eye, GT7 looks way better. Much more vibrant, nicer clouds, it doesn't even seem close to me.

Am I missing something.