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@Martsmall Haha the PM, a man who forced his way in and no one voted for them. Plus they have to be independent of the CMA, this is Britain not America, he can’t do anything.

@theduckofdeath Firstly Microsoft have been making their own computers for several years now, never heard of the Microsoft Surface? And f you want to know how a monopoly works, go and research what Microsoft was doing in the 90’s that lead to it nearly being split in half by the US government in 2000, because f its anti consumer monopolistic practices. Leopards don’t change their spots. It’s not just market position.

@BobCoffee Suggesting brexit was British being stubborn shows how little you know and understand, and attacking and labelling an entire nation of people is racism, it’s not just about skin colour.

@Kaloudz What if the company that wants to invest in 10 years time doesn’t exist? That’s not a very good argument you’ve made. They could approve the buyout now and in 10 years companies that don’t exist now but want to enter the clue gaming market may find themselves blocked by MS monopoly. The CMA will have had industry experts report and advise them in this, market analysts would have advised them. It wasn’t a decision made on the cuff.

@TheElectroFunky I was tempted to use the word racist I must admit, the accountant bit made me laugh 😂🤣 if the EU blocks it too I’m looking forward to what insults are used to describe them?

@Moonglow Google opposes this deal, as far as I know the other cloud investors supporting it have all been offered 10 year deals by Microsoft, they couldn’t care less what monopoly is formed as they have deals in hand already, which lets not forget we do not know the details off.
You need to look ‘very’ carefully at the players, and what ‘they’ will be gaining. Plus how many of these companies are British? The CMA is looking after Britains interests not Americas.

10 years from now cloud gaming could be the biggest games market, and 80% of it ran on Microsoft’s network and hardware, with their own services having preferential treatment, buying all the deals up, and it being impossible for any British company to enter and gain any traction in. Bit like Windows, which has a far reaching global monopoly.

@Blessed_Koz Yet again, instead of choosing to see facts and where the CMA are coming from, because you don’t like their decision you are attacking an entire nation of people, a perfect example of a complete lack of argument.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Think some people are too young to know the history of Microsoft and monopoly’s. The fact they were incredibly close to being forced to split up by US government due to their monopolistic power once, and fined heavily by the EU and forced to remove a browser from their OS. Hence why I don’t believe for a second any report claiming the EU will pass this deal at present.

@Sveakungen Sigh.. every time I see this.. no, they will HAVE to go back to all the investors, and ask them to vote on a new deal to do that, because the current deal investors have agreed to requires ALL major markets to approve it, that includes the UK, now they could ignore those investors, and the board could find themselves out of jobs and being sued.

They’ll basically have to ask all those investing billions of dollars in them if they are happy for them to pull out of a market valued at more then the entire deal is worth, annually I believe, and lose that return on their investments.

IF Microsoft and Activision Blizzard were private companies they could do what the hell they liked, but as they are both publicly traded companies they cannot.

@Kaloudz Stating ‘ The UK hate being wrong, and even worse, hate admitting they were wrong.’ sound very nationalist… I suggest you hold off singling out an entire nation until the EU ‘s decision…

The CMA also has a pretty valid point. You are only looking at the market now, as that’s how Microsoft want you and everyone else to look at it, trouble is once they own ActiBlizz they own it, and in 10 years time as the CMA points out could have an absolute monopoly on a market, which as it’s MS here they would be more then happy to have.

Usual process no biggy, think it just blocks them trying to buy other business related to the two for the moment.

@Ralizah Yes they may announce something, but they won't release any new hardware. If they do they are liable to being sued by their investors.
And as they'll want Christmas sales I don't think they will announce anything till January February next year. But you're right about the software releases. Still I personally think the Switch will eventually outsell the PS2. I'll probably grab It's successor when it's out, I've had a few Switches, Nintendo hardware is very good.

Haven't done, but if they launch a big game day and date I like on it I'll sub to play it. But only for a month or two.
If they ever launch Beyond Good And Evil 2 I would certainly be trying it.

@SplooshDmg Yeap looking forward to the (fingers crossed) new Switch 2, u fortunately it will not be released until after March 2024 now as Nintendo, again, told investors no new Nintendo hardware will be launched in its current fiscal year. Humph... so I wonder if the Switch will outsell the PS2?

Literally could not care, I think this was the game I tried to fire up when it was in Game Pass to play the single player campaign, and it point blank refused to run and crashed. Garbage.

May get this. I sold my Steam Deck as using it docked was a faff, and games didn't run too well on my monitor, plus putting Windows on it and none Steam Games was a faff too.
Windows is just so much easier. The US price for the top end Ally is $699, no idea on UK pricing. Just want something I can use docked easily as well as portable.

Yeah well considering that's what they said about the CMA I'll believe it when I see it.

Fancy Far Cry 6 and Gotham Nights.

Damn 2 of those are on my wish list for sure. Hmm... do I want to pull the trigger?

@themightyant Agree with all of that. I'm just not ready to go down this path yet. Must be old fashioned lol.

I will say that the CMA appeals process will take months, and if as I suspect the EU block it also, add many more months for that appeal process. All the whilst that 69 billion is tied up and can't be spent elsewhere. And MS doesn't seem overly keen to get further exclusives, or be hands on with its current studios.
I've lost faith in them now, they don't want to follow the console model, they want a cloud model. So I am not sure what support they'll offer consoles, bar game streaming moving forward? I'm waiting for those Game Pass only exclusive games to start appearing...

@themightyant MS want to monopolise and own the cloud streaming market, hence the comment you've posted. That is why the CMA will never allow it and I suspect neither will the EU. If the EU block it it's dead. MS aren't interested in the traditional console or it's business model or making AAA games according to Spencer. Because they want the cloud.

No it is dead in the water. MS have no case for appeal, the CMA were right to block it on the grounds they did, and I expect the EU will follow suite.
Sucking up to the Prime Minister is t going to help, he's more than useless and self cantered.

@Fiendish-Beaver That makes sense that it includes all the console generations. I think Game Pass figures are around 25 million, I think most are console gamers but the PC market is the fastest growth sector for game Pass currently.

@Fenbops It is one of the reasons why for now, despite my moaning of Phil Spencer, I won’t be selling my Series X. Plus State Of Decay. I have my OG PS4 and am playing Stray on that, it is on the PSN Plus Premium service I subbed to as I wanted to see what it had on it, and I’ve got to say, for me at least I’m not interested in any of the games on the service. I’ve played most of them or their predecessors and didn’t like the games, Sonys story simulators got stale for me.
The only ones I really like are Uncharted and The Last Of Us 1, and 2 was alright bar the stupid plot line and killing the main character in the first 5 mins.

But when I look at Game Pass, it has so many games I will dabble in and play.
I think when a new Uncharted game comes out I’ll grab a PS5 Slim or something.

@eduscxbox I agree, but when Phil does an interview and says the things he does like this week, it’s understandable why they are targeted and their community feels negative. It’s been endless since he gave this interview.

Looking at the graphics I think it'll be 30FPS, but I guess that should be ok. Depends I guess on how much help MS gave Bethesda with the game, they seemed to suggest it was a lot more than they gave Redfall.
I actually looked on PSN Plus Premium and the games on it are alright, but not a patch on what Game Pass has. Horizon and GOW are only on there as trials. More games I want are on Xbox. Starfield is a good example of this.

@S1ayeR74 Yes the 150 million only if the deal passes, and that's not for COD because as the CMA said not produced any evidence to show COD will run on the 'current' Switch model, so far.

@Fiendish-Beaver 50 million? Not bad, does that include Game Pass subscribers though like those on PC? It's not going to be 150 million that's for sure.

@Blessed_Koz Yeap, I can tell your response isn't based on business or reality.
Also the UK market is worth billions to MS, it is a big seller despite what you may think. More than people give it credit for. They could tell the UK to get stuffed, but then the investors in MS will most likely sack the board and take them to court. For losing them billions in returns on their investments.
The UK market is worth more than the 69 billion the deal is costing them. Think about that.

@Fenbops It is THE game that is making me consider keeping my Series X. Best game series on Xbox by far, for me. It was the game that made me get an Xbox 360 all those years ago.

@Fenbops Ah that would be golden, especially if Gears was remastered in Unreal Engine 5!

I played one of their other games on PS4, the one where it turns out your a machine or something, Soma, I stopped playing when I got to one part and haven't played again since as it's too scary hahahaha.....
This studio nails atmosphere!

@Fiendish-Beaver In the interview he said they've had teams from The Coalition and another studio come up with a 60FPS plan as the the studio behind Redfall aren't as experienced with Unreal Engine 4, but Phil admitted they needed the plan in place last year.

@eduscxbox Yes but surely you accept Xbox has brought some of the criticism from the community upon themselves? With showing games 2 years ago, then Halo was delayed then came out missing multiplayer, then they delayed other games and some 2 years later we are still waiting for news on. And then The Coalition had news of big name team members leaving over conflict of creative direction.

They have made endless promises and for many, they've only delivered with Game Pass so far but that was carried over from last gen. And then the ActiBliz deal is blocked by a major market. And they release the dumpster that is Redfall.

All this does leave a bitter taste in the mouth of fans I think.

I watched this show, and the most telling part is towards the end, where he basically states don't expect Xbox to compete on the level of Sony or Nintendo with consoles, they want to make games and Game Pass for all platforms.
That was his response when asked if they aren't giving the Xbox console the same attention as PC Game Pass etc. this is in stark contrast to what he said about the Xbox Series when it was launched.
This was because he basically said they can't compete with Sony and Nintendo and have to find their own way which is Game Pass.

For me that doesn't instil confidence that the console will be around much longer in its current form in their business plan. Maybe they'll sell a streaming box or something? As someone who wants that console experience it may be truly time to bow out.

Well Bethesda stated:

“ "We've made the difficult decision to delay the launches of Redfall and Starfield to the first half of 2023. The teams at Arkane Austin (Redfall) and Bethesda Game Studios (Starfield) have incredible ambitions for their games, and we want to ensure that you receive the best, most polished versions of them.”

http://www.gamesradar.com/starfield-delay/

So why should we believe Spencer when he claims they will do what they should have been doing day one? Stop wasting time and resources chasing ridiculous dreams of buying the worlds biggest game titles, and start doing your job and properly managing the studios you do have!

@eduscxbox Firstly The Last Of Us was already a successful game on console, Redfall has launched across its platforms at the same time and failed. Yes the PC release of TLOU was buggy and Sony did get slammed for it, but as said it was already on console anyway.

As for me not liking the other games doesn’t mean anything, well sorry but it does. If the games ‘I’ want to play are garbage, then that platform has failed for me, and the many others who have the same taste, it doesn’t mean jack if it has launched other successful games. And MS have been promoting this game for what must be a year or more now, bogging it up, and it’s a first party title.

So they fully deserve their backlash and the moniker they have failed, shooter fans will no doubt also be looking forward to Starfield but we have no guarantee that game will be any good, or bug free, and rumours are it’ll be 30fps, on a device advertised by Microsoft as the worlds most powerful console. This is a first party studio and title.
Bethesda stated Redfall and Starfield were delayed by a year to ensure ‘that you receive the best, most polished’ versions of the games. So yeah when they state that forgive me and many others if we see this is Xbox just failing, they lost the ability to properly manage their current studios whilst chasing the purchase of new massive ones. And the games have suffered as a result.

@eduscxbox But many like me are not interested in any of those games, but we like shooters and thought Redfall could be fun. It was heavily promoted and advertised by Microsoft for months as a fun premium shooter, and it is the first game with a 70 dollar / pound price.
So those other games you mentioned don’t mean anything.

@old-dad And unfortunately all that ‘Jank’ will still be in the Xbox console version

Gamers were waiting for this day 2 years ago! Bit hypocritical for the sales team to be spewing that line out now.
Let's see what they show, but I won't go thinking they'll release on time or be any good until they've actually been launched.
Next year will be Xbox's year, next event will be Xbox's event... and round and round it goes.

@SuntannedDuck2 Let's not forget the driving simulator studio they have making a sequel to a cult comedy RPG on its driving simulator games engine too, I'm sure it'll be a success......

Another flop. I'm sure next year will be Xbox's year though... again...
Starfield will probably be 30FPS and I'm not sure Fable will be any good made by a racing game studio in a racing game engine.

Given up, it's obvious Microsoft want Xbox to be a service, not platform. Game Pass and X Cloud are its future now along with mobile. I'll be surprised if they make another console after the next one.

@Blessed_Koz You need to go and read up on business. If they pull out of the UK you can fully expect the share holders to fire the Microsoft board of executives. And dump there stock. And people in the UK will be annoyed with Microsoft then rather than anything the CMA has done, so the backlash could mean dropped sales all round for Microsoft products.

@Fiendish-Beaver Do you mean the 150 million players Xbox claims it will bring Activision Blizzard games to if the deal is passed? That's true but most it that number is made up of Nintendo Switch gamers, the rest are just Nvidia gamers etc. so no deal no 150 million extra players.
Also for now a what Xbox says about COD being brought to 150 million extra gamers can be taken with a pinch of salt, because as the CMA stated no evidence was provided to them to prove that the current Switch can run COD. And considering the next gen Switch isn't out yet then that user base is zero.

@Moonglow Its because NVIDIA signed a 10 year deal to have ActiBlizz games on their platform. They will financially benefit if the deal goes through, hence the comment. Don’t go thinking it’s a good thing, it’s only good for NVIDIA bank balance.

@Titntin I am still waiting for that hug you promised me but totally understand where you are coming from. Take care.

@Trmn8r Go and read post 82 then 92 and you'll finally get the context. And why you are half wrong, I'll give you something as you stated global market. My bad as you said global cloud market in your initial reply and I didn’t correct you. But you can think what ever you want to be honest. I mean you jumped into my reply to another comment and utterly failed to read that comment I was replying to, and took everything out of context and you look foolish for doing so as you miss all the context.

@Sol4ris Oh it's not a surprise mate, not in the slightest. Sunak would only overturn the CMA purely to look good next to the EU. The institution we apparently voted to leave. And we all know what's happened with that.

@Trmn8r If you don't take it out of context it's "global cloud gaming services" and what do you think that means?