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@Lightning720 Eh? Xbox’s entire roadmap to 2030 leaked and it wasn’t shocking or surprising?

@Kaloudz No it’s not, they also want to use ARM instead of X86 looking at the slide, so backwards compatibility will be questioned too as it’s not been great with computers using ARM. Relying on the internet to have games perform properly isn’t exciting, it’s going backwards and moving to an entirely service based system, where you will eventually not actually own anything apart from maybe the physical controller. You don’t effectively own digital media, you only rent it.

@Kaloudz Sure, the console may be powerful, for a games console, but you are missing the point in your own comment as it still means, no internet reduced power of your console.

Damage control written by lawyers and marketing.

@Kaloudz The brief by Microsoft states in its first paragraph that ‘we will enable new levels of performance beyond the capabilities of the client hardware alone’

That is basically using the cloud to boost performance in games, in black and white. No internet lower performance in games.

@Kaloudz The way it’s worded does come across as though you will need the internet, and MS is NOT afraid about you needing an internet connection to use your console. Not a good thing in my mind. Either way no internet probably means no gaming, certainly seems as though it could mean reduced power possibly processing and reduced features. So it remains to be seen just how powerful the actual console would be.
It has a hint of the Kinetic Xbox One mess about it.

Looks like you can guarantee MS will be ditching the disk drive from next year…

@Kaloudz So something the relies on the internet and your internet connection is better then a piece of hardware plugged into your console? I can't see how. Also the PS5 is current gen, this hybrid console is next gen and who knows what Sony will do then.

@somnambulance Yes he shows the typical Microsoft face, monopolistic and just want to buy everyone.

I cannot think of anything worst then Microsoft buying Nintendo. It would destroy everything that Nintendo and its studios are.

So no Internet no gaming? Doesn't sound good to me, cheaper for MS though as they will just need to update its cloud hardware.

@MrList You will own nothing and be happy.

@Sakai Well it remains to be seen how much faster the die shrink will be, seems you usually get a small performance boost at least with die shrinks. Also new WiFi and new chips seems like a bit of an upgrade to me. Not a full on 'Pro' model but not a simple like for like refresh either. Oh and a brand new controller with more haptics too.

Meh designed to push everyone towards a digital ad stuffed future.
I think Sonys idea of an optional disk drive is a far better solution. One console same power across the board.

So they said they wouldn't be refreshing the console and the Series X was their Pro model huh.... not entirely honest were they.

Does anyone make an FPS for single players anymore without CoOp or AI assisted players if you can't do CoOp? I see even the new Warhammer is CoOp based. COD campaign mode seems to be the only one these days.

I consider Starfield a full on RPG and not an FPS.

I must be one of the few who doesn't care, because I never played the Elder Scrolls games lol.

I’ve found it a bit meh so far, I had a laugh making my character but that’s been the best bit! I don’t see why it has to run at 30FPS, I must be hard to please with the graphics haha? But it seems a bit bland. I’ll give it more time though to see how it goes. I haven’t got too far into it yet.

The only thing I was interested in with this desk was COD coming day and date, as that isn’t going to happen, most likely due to deals with other platforms, then I couldn’t care less if it’s successful or not. My internet is lost in it. Just building up for to be honest, this plus the awful new dashboard. And I’m not bothered by Starfield. Hmm if COD comes to Nintendo next platform and it’s a hybrid again I may trade my Series X in for it!

@Chaotic_Neutral Yeah I'll give Starfield a go but my interest in the game has severely lapsed, not excited really for it.

Well that sounds like no new COD game releases will be on Game Pass for several years then? Kinda makes the merger pointless.

@Sifi Rubbish, also PS5 has had games only available on next gen from first and third party. Xbox screwed the pooch with its latest update, showed its true colours where it is heading. It’s hilarious to claim the PS4 of all things is holding back development, no, the 2 years of lockdown did that.
Oh and a few games on XSX are also on XBOne still.

With Microsoft turning it’s Xbox Series X into a £450 advetising box, I won’t be buying another Xbox that’s for damn sure. I’ll stick to Nintendo, maybe PlayStation too.

I wonder if they showed him their new console? Or has he not left Microsoft yet?

@NeoRatt And I never stated you cannot download your games you own? You made that up in your own mind from my comment.

You won't be able to get anymore content on them, that's the issue. As in a digital only device.

@Sol4ris Incorrect, I HATE the new dashboard, seriously hate the thing, I don’t enjoy turning my console on anymore! So please stop labelling everyone as a Sony fanboy as that’s a weak pathetic argument and makes you look like a corporate shill. I seriously do NOT think it’s wrong for anyone to want to be able to customise the new dashboard, just like we could with the old one, to look like how we want it.

Proof of the danger of a digital only future. The Series S store will close one day… once in the digital train unless it’s in PC, you’ll be forced to upgrade consoles forever so long as backwards compatibility exists.

@robe Yes very true, ignorant fans really. Not realising the issue isn’t oh just click up to the tiny icons at the top of the screen. No it’s the relentless MUCH bigger tiles of ads on your screen, on a premium product you bought, and a service you subscribe to.

I would say it’s like buying a car new only it’s covered in advertisement stickers and billboards on the roof, but even that misses out the Gamepass sub bit.

Just tested mine and I have this latest update. So now I literally have one line of my stuff. And without scrolling down now I have a line of bigger icons that are ads. Browse the store. These are the latest games blah blah blah.
Counted 15 lines of ads now. I cannot move my pins to the top either. I have to scroll through the ads to get to the 2 I'm graciously allowed to create.

It's just really crap, really crap. Designed purely by the marketing team. They have made an already bad dashboard even worst.

So not only are they refusing to address the utter up selling ad infested disaster the new dashboard is, they are now making it even worst by removing what little access you had to 'your' games. It has actually put me right off even using my Xbox. Neither Sony nor Nintendo do this. In fact I may trade the Series X in for the new Switch when ever it's launched, may, all depends on how Microsoft approaches its awful dashboard mess.

JUST LET ME CUSTOMISE ITS LAYOUT!

Yet another MS first party game lacking features at launch. Becoming quite common now. Not a good look if MS want that quality reputation.

Wouldn't touch it or any other Xbox. Sorry but this latest 'dashboard' update really has left a very salty taste in my mouth. I dread turning it on now even to look at it, trawl through all those ads if I need something. Even knowing they are all their just one button press down.

The sooner this goes through, the sooner Microsoft can work in there abysmal ad infested OS update on Xbox.

This article smacks the nail on the head, it’s EXACTLY how I feel. I hate it for all the endless mandatory ‘ad’s’ but like it’s speed and layout changes on that first screen with my desktop. Just as is said here I want to customise (remove) the ad clutter crap I’m not interested in.

@Lup Nope, you cannot remove ANY of it, only your groups you set up. Everything else nadda, and that’s the HUGE problem with it. It’s fast yes, I can see my desktop, well the top half anyway. But scroll down two clicks and it’s ad infested city and no way out.

@Fishticon If they had ads for every loading screen (elevator ride) in game people would lap it up and praise it!

It’s an ad infested dumpster fire.

I really hate it! Really hate it. I had 5 lines before now I have 20 90% of which are un-skippable un-removable ads..

I didn’t see an option for ‘I hate all the endless endless mandatory ads on it’

I had about 5 lines before on my Home Screen I customised, I now have 20, 90% of which are ads or suggestions (ads) that I cannot get rid off. Great work Microsoft…🤦‍♂️

It is just a God awful AD INFESTED mess! Hate it, completely hate it. And the fact I cannot change it in anyway it disgusting. I do NOT pay a premium price plus a subscription fee to ‘mandatory’ ads shoved down my throat on my console!

What an utterly awful dashboard! Forcing you to see recommendations, updates etc you have NO interest in and cannot remove! What ***** is that! It’s awful absolutely awful. And I can’t find anyway to change it.

Nope not really, I’d rather they fully utilised all the power and performance of the current Series X.

I’m desperately waiting for the new game. Got GOW4 on disk from the dog for Christmas lol, but it included all the previous games too! Thought it was a real bargain personally. And allowed me to have the games on my Xbox One S at the time, before Game Pass I think? It’s the game that got me into Xbox originally when the 360 was launched.

@Kaloudz Yeah but October! Were they thinking, how long should we delay? Hmm well the CMA think August, so we’ll give them till mid September? No best make it end of October to be sure… with an option for March 2025 should we need it.

@x3King84 EXACTLY! The crap I’ve read being posted on this! Quite ridiculous. The adults at MS, CMA meanwhile working together to get it through.

Called It! October though, that’s brave. I guess this is due to the fact the contract they have states ALL regulators must approve the deal for it to pass, well apart from America where it’s approved by default due to the FTC losing in court. The CMA expects to have this done in a couple of weeks or three. Not a few months!

On an other note, it’s not mentioned here yet but most now are fully expecting MS and Activision to announce a delay in the deal closing till most likely September 1st, as reported before they will allow time to have the deal approved by the CMA, a judge yesterday said they most likely won’t be able to close the deal in the UK today as it’s too soon.

@Fiendish-Beaver Give up, you don’t know what regulators are there for then. Of course they won’t state the word ‘monopoly’ but instead spell it our in a full explanation which they did.

Also:

“ Monopoly: the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.”

Read the second paragraph of the quote I posted as it seems to answer that directly?

You just believe what ever you like, it’s your right to do so and make your own opinions up. I am just not seeing any of it I’m afraid.

@Fiendish-Beaver “ Where we did have concerns was in cloud gaming - still a nascent market but one we expect to grow, because it offers many advantages for gamers. For one, it enables gamers to untie games from specific devices - that means more accessibility and lower cost. So cloud gaming deserved an in-depth assessment. This was a common concern because, like us, the CMA focused on this market.

We were worried that Microsoft would make Activision games exclusive to its own cloud gaming service. This would have restrained access to games and strengthened Window's position as an operating system.

Where we diverged with the CMA was on remedies. We accepted a 10-year free license to consumers to allow them to stream all Activision games for which they have a license via any cloud service. And why did we do this instead of blocking the merger? Well, to us, this solution fully addressed our concerns. And on top of that, it had significant procompetitive effects.”

http://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/SPEECH_23_2923

— from the horses mouth and wasn’t hard to find.

And no you haven’t provided any evidence, just personal opinion and seeing things that don’t exist. Anything else I have to say I’ve already said multiple times now.

@Fiendish-Beaver TLDR, when you have actual evidence come back, until then it's a complete personal opinion or conspiracy theory no matter what you state. They blocked it for what they felt were valid reasons, not out of spite or to protect Sonys profits, and not because the FTC told them to.
Also the EU and the FTC both also highlighted cloud gaming as creating a monopoly from this deal, I've said that several times, otherwise regulators tend to follow the EU, UK and US regulator leads, because they are by far the biggest markets for Microsoft.

No updates yet today? Hmm. Wonder if it’ll be tomorrow before anything is announced, although didn’t someone on here state that Microsoft has a meeting with the CMA today? That could hold back any news till after.

No update today yet from Microsoft? All in suspense now lol.

Bit of a mouthful of a name, but this was inevitable.