There is no ‘next gen’ anymore and hasn’t been for a number of years. We have been cross gen for a long time and what we see now are just upgrades. The days of the leap from 8bit to 16bit etc disappeared long ago.
No great surprises here at all and Microsoft can offset the losses due to the size of the corporation. They will stop making consoles in the next 10 years and Xbox will become cloud and streaming only. That’s where there focus is.
What will be funny is when COD ends up not on PlayStation because huge baby child Jim Ryan wouldn’t sign the 10 year deal! Ryan has scored such an own goal when he could have kept it all very simple.
@FraserG Cheers mate. Would be grand if it happens. I’m out and about a lot so it would be a great addition and shouldn’t be too tough for Xbox to sort. All the best for the weekend and thanks for keeping the news and information coming. Very much appreciated. Matt
@FraserG makes sense. Any news on when games bought will be able to played via the cloud? Microsoft said this would start end of 2022 but halfway through 2023 nothing.
@Zoidpilot4 Good points. I just find the whole thing to be a total mess and farcical. I just want these guys to get back to being creative minds and focused on gaming. It’s become a pantomime and none of this is good for the people that truly matter and that’s the gamers!
The best thing for gaming as a whole would be for both Jim Ryan and Phil Spencer to just go away. Ryan is aggressive and Spencer has basically said that Xbox is only buying devs so it can survive. Neither of them are acting out of creative desire or acting to make gaming a better space.
It’s pathetic, it’s time to put a stop to the ego driven nonsense and get back to gaming! Because all of this is not about gaming. It’s about 2 big headed narcissists playing games.
Both need to go and let creative minds run the gaming space. That will be better for everyone.
@Reptilio I feel that both Xbox and PS this gen have been disappointing tbh. Nintendo is still delivering for the gamers. Xbox and PS seem more bothered about attacking each others and telling lies to point score. It’s become embarrassing.
@Somebody The whole deal has been full of lies and more lies. Xbox are not wrong about being behind in console sales- they will always be third best unless Nintendo do another Wii U cock up next time round. Sonys claim about only being profitable due to COD was and remains hilarious. How they even said that with a straight face is funnier still.
Thank god for no mid Gen upgrades from Xbox this time. I hate them. Just pure green. As for Nintendo, I don’t think we will see a new Nintendo console until holiday 2026 now.
@themightyant There are so many different reports it’s hard to know which or who is most accurate. Whatever the full reality, Xbox is never going to win the console sales. As I’ve said before, Sony could create a new PS tomorrow and it will sell just because of the name. That’s where Sony are at, hence their complacency. https://en.as.com/meristation/2023/02/21/news/1677012238_006400.html
@Kaloudz Even after 6 years, Nintendo don’t even look like announcing a new system any time soon. I’m guessing 2026 now. Both they and Sony are on easy street now.
@TommyNL They have both lost sight of gaming for gamers tbh. Nintendo focus on games and gaming which is why they still give directs that are streets ahead of PS and XB. There was more to get excited about in Nintendo’s 40 minute direct than at any time during either the Xbox or PS directs - Starfield perhaps being the slight exception. The term next gen needs ditching as well. When we went from 8bit to 16bit etc - that was next gen. Now we just get incremental upgrades. Both PS and XB need to stop looking for the next big thing and focus on quality gaming experiences! It really should be that simple but Jim and Phil both seem to be more bothered about cat calling and playground spats - it’s become unseemly and frankly at times, pathetic
@Kaloudz There’s no danger of them dropping out the market. I just think that ultimately they will focus on cloud arena. They are never going to close the gap to PlayStation now. This gen was the perfect chance to do so and they’ve blown it big time so cloud and streaming has to be their focus. Streaming boxes and sticks will their future and by 2027, I doubt they will even make consoles any more.
The thing with this whole ‘competition’ argument is that Sony are so far ahead, they will dominate for decades! They still have around 80% share of the worldwide market! That’s not a war nor is it a competition. It’s a rout. Xbox needs to focus on closing the gap anyway it can. But PlayStation is so far ahead and Nintendo are operating in a different way that Xbox needs to sort out what it wants and stick to it. Sony could make a PlayStation 6 tomorrow , have no games at all for it and it would sell tens of millions. That’s where we are at. Xbox are having to work extra hard and are still nowhere near closing the gap.
@Lastatopiny neither have had that much to crow about. My point is more that PlayStation could sell millions without doing anything at all because the brand is now that strong. Xbox want to get people on GamePass and in the ecosystem for the long term and they are doing that well. Xbox and PlayStation are focused on different paths and that is fine. Variety is good for gamers.
@RadioHedgeFund It won’t make a difference but Xbox will be fine. Some seem to be saying that this is the end! Xbox is doomed. It’s not even close to being doomed.
@PapaGlitch Totally get that but what I’m saying is that if Xbox really wanted to dominate cloud and give no one else a chance , there are other ways than taking over Act/Bliz. The UK ruling was bizarre and made no sense. Jim Ryan just doesn’t want a gaming culture where everyone plays across consoles - he’s a huge issue in the gaming arena because he is so complacent that PlayStations will sell no matter what and we are seeing that with PS5. I bought one, had it for one year and literally played it maybe 10 times!
The acquisition isn’t a threat to anyone. And why cloud is being mentioned is bizarre. Cloud gaming may well be something Xbox dominate but Sony are as bothered about cloud gaming as MS are about selling consoles. Nintendo will just carry on doing it’s own thing and I don’t even think they will bring out a new console until holiday 2026 now. Xbox is now a gaming brand rather than a console maker. MS simply have a better infrastructure for cloud gaming than Sony. That alone will dictate the cloud scene, not mergers and takeovers.
@Bleachedsmiles Timing may not be great but they’ve done it. End of. It’s a minor price hike for an excellent service and people need to stop getting their knickers in a twist over that story and this one. Xbox is third when it comes to selling consoles. Everyone knows that: it’s just a statement of fact. But it changes nothing at all.
I think the whole Act/Bliz deal has just totally sent people mad! I never thought it would change the gaming market and still don’t should it go through, which I now doubt it will.
What interests me is that much talk has been made about if the deal did go through that it would mean Xbox would dominate the cloud market. That deal would do nothing of the sort.
If Xbox truly wanted to dominate and take cloud gaming as their own, they can do one very simple thing that wouldn’t need court cases - put Game Pass Ultimate on Nintendo Switch. Now that would give them utter dominance! But they haven’t done that and it would be the most simple thing to do with a click it the fingers!
@101Force Xbox is focused on getting as many people to play games as possible on as many systems as possible. That was always the case this time around - it’s hardly a next gen as not much has changed - and they are succeeding in that.
@Bleachedsmiles why are people so upset about about the sub increase? It’s a minimal jump and still value for money. How are they ripping people off? They may be 3rd in terms of sales but they will still follow the cloud gaming path. That has always been clear. The hysteria around this and the price increases is just needless.
@TanaDax The problem is with these kind of ‘news’ stories is that they are non news stories. Of course Xbox is way behind when it comes to selling consoles. That’s no surprise at all. The only reason they are saying it out loud is due to the Act/Bliz deal. It’s nothing to worry about in any way. Xbox will be around for generations and is going nowhere.
But Xbox are not interested in selling consoles anymore. They only care about how many people play on their ecosystem. They will be a cloud leader for many years to come with streaming devices being their main staple and game pass continuing to offer gaming for everyone no matter the budget and that’s a good thing.
As for console wars , i grew up with Nintendo and Sega but only the most delusional still carp on about console ‘wars.’ Nintendo do their own thing and do it very well. Sony will sell PlayStations no matter what as we are seeing with PS5 - a pretty dire line up of games, not at all for the players yet it’s going to sell and keep selling just on its name. Xbox have their own space now and that is cloud gaming and accessibility.
There is something for everyone out there.
Personally, Game Pass Ultimate and retro gaming is my world and I love it! Gaming is for all and it doesn’t matter whether you play on your phone, Xbox, Nintendo , PS or emulation system. Enjoy it! Embrace it and shove the wars UYA!
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Re: Pure Xbox Game Club August 2023: Ori And The Will Of The Wisps
Count me in folks
Re: 'A Short Hike' Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (August 3)
Very short but well worth your time. Superb.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox Is 'Focused' On Improving Handheld PC Gaming Experience
Xbox is an ecosystem so get used to it!
I have a G Cloud and I’ve never games so much for a long time!!
Re: Talking Point: Do You Feel Like You're Still Waiting For 'Next-Gen' To Arrive?
There is no ‘next gen’ anymore and hasn’t been for a number of years. We have been cross gen for a long time and what we see now are just upgrades. The days of the leap from 8bit to 16bit etc disappeared long ago.
Re: Xbox Gaming Revenue Up 1% YoY In Latest Earnings Report
No great surprises here at all and Microsoft can offset the losses due to the size of the corporation. They will stop making consoles in the next 10 years and Xbox will become cloud and streaming only. That’s where there focus is.
Re: How To Access Free 'The Crew Motorfest' Beta On Xbox Series X|S
Have tried the code but keeps saying already been used even thought it absolutely hasnt
Re: Xbox's 'Biggest Content Drop In History' Sees Over 1400 Retro Games Arrive Next Week
80 quid or Emulation…. Tough choice kids
Re: Microsoft Activision Blizzard Acquisition Given Greenlight In US After FTC Loses (Again)
What will be funny is when COD ends up not on PlayStation because huge baby child Jim Ryan wouldn’t sign the 10 year deal! Ryan has scored such an own goal when he could have kept it all very simple.
Re: UK CMA Delays Decision On Xbox ActiBlizz Deal Until August
The whole thing is just out of control. Pathetic it really is.
Re: Xbox Wins FTC Court Case As Judge Denies Preliminary Injunction
Can we finally move on and all get back to gaming! Little will change. Onwards!
Re: These Eight Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (July 5-18)
GTA V. Oh no! There goes my life. Again.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In July 2023
@FraserG Cheers mate. Would be grand if it happens. I’m out and about a lot so it would be a great addition and shouldn’t be too tough for Xbox to sort.
All the best for the weekend and thanks for keeping the news and information coming.
Very much appreciated.
Matt
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In July 2023
@FraserG makes sense. Any news on when games bought will be able to played via the cloud? Microsoft said this would start end of 2022 but halfway through 2023 nothing.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In July 2023
@FraserG seems to be a lack of any cloud options again.
Re: DayZ Publisher Shows Xbox Game Pass Some Love 'For No Particular Reason'
Jim Ryan is pretty clueless.
Re: SEGA & Bungie Included In Huge List Of Companies Xbox Has Considered Acquiring
So basically this is an attempt to show that Xbox would buy anything they could to keep them in the game?
Re: Report: Xbox's Perfect Dark Won't Release Until 2025+ Due To Years Of Development Struggles
What a belting week XBox is having
Re: Xbox Boss Promises To Keep Call Of Duty On PlayStation (Again)
Massive yawn!
Re: Poll: Will You Stay Subscribed To Xbox Game Pass After The Price Hike?
It’s a tiny increase. Still great value. And as for tusk being a big story? It really wasn’t and isn’t.
Re: Phil Spencer: Sony Uses Revenue From Our Games To Reduce Xbox's 'Survival In The Market'
@Zoidpilot4 Good points. I just find the whole thing to be a total mess and farcical. I just want these guys to get back to being creative minds and focused on gaming. It’s become a pantomime and none of this is good for the people that truly matter and that’s the gamers!
Re: Phil Spencer: Sony Uses Revenue From Our Games To Reduce Xbox's 'Survival In The Market'
@Sol4ris That too!!😂😂
Re: Phil Spencer: Sony Uses Revenue From Our Games To Reduce Xbox's 'Survival In The Market'
The best thing for gaming as a whole would be for both Jim Ryan and Phil Spencer to just go away. Ryan is aggressive and Spencer has basically said that Xbox is only buying devs so it can survive. Neither of them are acting out of creative desire or acting to make gaming a better space.
It’s pathetic, it’s time to put a stop to the ego driven nonsense and get back to gaming! Because all of this is not about gaming. It’s about 2 big headed narcissists playing games.
Both need to go and let creative minds run the gaming space. That will be better for everyone.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Reptilio I feel that both Xbox and PS this gen have been disappointing tbh. Nintendo is still delivering for the gamers. Xbox and PS seem more bothered about attacking each others and telling lies to point score. It’s become embarrassing.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Somebody The whole deal has been full of lies and more lies. Xbox are not wrong about being behind in console sales- they will always be third best unless Nintendo do another Wii U cock up next time round.
Sonys claim about only being profitable due to COD was and remains hilarious. How they even said that with a straight face is funnier still.
Re: Xbox Is Expecting The 'Next Generation Of Consoles' To Begin In 2028
Thank god for no mid Gen upgrades from Xbox this time. I hate them. Just pure green.
As for Nintendo, I don’t think we will see a new Nintendo console until holiday 2026 now.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@themightyant 👍
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@themightyant There are so many different reports it’s hard to know which or who is most accurate. Whatever the full reality, Xbox is never going to win the console sales. As I’ve said before, Sony could create a new PS tomorrow and it will sell just because of the name. That’s where Sony are at, hence their complacency.
https://en.as.com/meristation/2023/02/21/news/1677012238_006400.html
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Kaloudz Even after 6 years, Nintendo don’t even look like announcing a new system any time soon. I’m guessing 2026 now. Both they and Sony are on easy street now.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@themightyant https://www.vgchartz.com/article/456379/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-vs-switch-2023-sales-comparison-charts-through-january-2023/
Possibly more accurate.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Link41x Worldwide , PS has around 70 to 80# share of the market. That’s not losing, it’s annihilation
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@TommyNL They have both lost sight of gaming for gamers tbh. Nintendo focus on games and gaming which is why they still give directs that are streets ahead of PS and XB. There was more to get excited about in Nintendo’s 40 minute direct than at any time during either the Xbox or PS directs - Starfield perhaps being the slight exception.
The term next gen needs ditching as well. When we went from 8bit to 16bit etc - that was next gen. Now we just get incremental upgrades.
Both PS and XB need to stop looking for the next big thing and focus on quality gaming experiences! It really should be that simple but Jim and Phil both seem to be more bothered about cat calling and playground spats - it’s become unseemly and frankly at times, pathetic
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Kaloudz There’s no danger of them dropping out the market. I just think that ultimately they will focus on cloud arena. They are never going to close the gap to PlayStation now. This gen was the perfect chance to do so and they’ve blown it big time so cloud and streaming has to be their focus.
Streaming boxes and sticks will their future and by 2027, I doubt they will even make consoles any more.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
The thing with this whole ‘competition’ argument is that Sony are so far ahead, they will dominate for decades! They still have around 80% share of the worldwide market! That’s not a war nor is it a competition. It’s a rout. Xbox needs to focus on closing the gap anyway it can. But PlayStation is so far ahead and Nintendo are operating in a different way that Xbox needs to sort out what it wants and stick to it.
Sony could make a PlayStation 6 tomorrow , have no games at all for it and it would sell tens of millions. That’s where we are at. Xbox are having to work extra hard and are still nowhere near closing the gap.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
Seems Phil’s comments in the report have done the share prices no favours. Oops.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Lastatopiny neither have had that much to crow about. My point is more that PlayStation could sell millions without doing anything at all because the brand is now that strong.
Xbox want to get people on GamePass and in the ecosystem for the long term and they are doing that well.
Xbox and PlayStation are focused on different paths and that is fine. Variety is good for gamers.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@themightyant Sony are the epitome of ‘do as I say, not as I do!’
Jim Ryan should win awards for his hypocrisy.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@awp69 Jim Ryan is bad for gaming
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Kaloudz They haven’t and won’t sell as many consoles but they have far from lost. They are just playing the game. Nothing more; nothing less!
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@RadioHedgeFund It won’t make a difference but Xbox will be fine. Some seem to be saying that this is the end! Xbox is doomed. It’s not even close to being doomed.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@PapaGlitch Totally get that but what I’m saying is that if Xbox really wanted to dominate cloud and give no one else a chance , there are other ways than taking over Act/Bliz. The UK ruling was bizarre and made no sense.
Jim Ryan just doesn’t want a gaming culture where everyone plays across consoles - he’s a huge issue in the gaming arena because he is so complacent that PlayStations will sell no matter what and we are seeing that with PS5. I bought one, had it for one year and literally played it maybe 10 times!
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
The acquisition isn’t a threat to anyone. And why cloud is being mentioned is bizarre. Cloud gaming may well be something Xbox dominate but Sony are as bothered about cloud gaming as MS are about selling consoles.
Nintendo will just carry on doing it’s own thing and I don’t even think they will bring out a new console until holiday 2026 now.
Xbox is now a gaming brand rather than a console maker.
MS simply have a better infrastructure for cloud gaming than Sony. That alone will dictate the cloud scene, not mergers and takeovers.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@PsBoxSwitchOwner Xbox don’t put prices up that often tbf. Subs will always go up over time. It’s not a huge issue.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@themightyant Of course it would come down to Nintendo but it would be easier than trying to get the deal with Act|Bliz done.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Bleachedsmiles Timing may not be great but they’ve done it. End of. It’s a minor price hike for an excellent service and people need to stop getting their knickers in a twist over that story and this one. Xbox is third when it comes to selling consoles. Everyone knows that: it’s just a statement of fact. But it changes nothing at all.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Lup It’s increased by 2 quid ffs. It’s a fair enough price to pay.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
I think the whole Act/Bliz deal has just totally sent people mad! I never thought it would change the gaming market and still don’t should it go through, which I now doubt it will.
What interests me is that much talk has been made about if the deal did go through that it would mean Xbox would dominate the cloud market. That deal would do nothing of the sort.
If Xbox truly wanted to dominate and take cloud gaming as their own, they can do one very simple thing that wouldn’t need court cases - put Game Pass Ultimate on Nintendo Switch. Now that would give them utter dominance! But they haven’t done that and it would be the most simple thing to do with a click it the fingers!
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@101Force Xbox is focused on getting as many people to play games as possible on as many systems as possible. That was always the case this time around - it’s hardly a next gen as not much has changed - and they are succeeding in that.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@Bleachedsmiles why are people so upset about about the sub increase? It’s a minimal jump and still value for money. How are they ripping people off? They may be 3rd in terms of sales but they will still follow the cloud gaming path. That has always been clear. The hysteria around this and the price increases is just needless.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
@TanaDax The problem is with these kind of ‘news’ stories is that they are non news stories. Of course Xbox is way behind when it comes to selling consoles. That’s no surprise at all. The only reason they are saying it out loud is due to the Act/Bliz deal. It’s nothing to worry about in any way.
Xbox will be around for generations and is going nowhere.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
But Xbox are not interested in selling consoles anymore. They only care about how many people play on their ecosystem. They will be a cloud leader for many years to come with streaming devices being their main staple and game pass continuing to offer gaming for everyone no matter the budget and that’s a good thing.
As for console wars , i grew up with Nintendo and Sega but only the most delusional still carp on about console ‘wars.’ Nintendo do their own thing and do it very well. Sony will sell PlayStations no matter what as we are seeing with PS5 - a pretty dire line up of games, not at all for the players yet it’s going to sell and keep selling just on its name.
Xbox have their own space now and that is cloud gaming and accessibility.
There is something for everyone out there.
Personally, Game Pass Ultimate and retro gaming is my world and I love it! Gaming is for all and it doesn’t matter whether you play on your phone, Xbox, Nintendo , PS or emulation system. Enjoy it! Embrace it and shove the wars UYA!